APR Stage III - Supercopa Killer - GTI Racecar build

[jcd0402]

What would be the mpg rate if i do a stage 3 build to a gti 2009

[plorwax]

may I ask how fast is this setup on a 1/4 mile?

[dchrish]

serious question do i half to buy the apr intercooler with the ko4 turbo

[APRVideos]

@dchrish No, but the stock intercooler is not good and will rob you of a lot of power.

[XxJacky4everxX]

@APRVideos How much HP has this GTI?

[PolishDork]

@dchrish get a s3 intercooler instead. works the same if not better, and is muuuuuch cheaper!

[matthew13131]

where do you buy cams for the mrk 6 gti??

[EH3Hatch]

anything done internally to the motor?

[APRVideos]

@EH3Hatch this one had upgraded rods, pistons and cam shafts.

[kjellodnebreitebakk]

APR is finally getting a dealer in Norway :D Think i'm gonna buy a stage3 for my passat ! that is going to be sick! You guys at APR have my uttermost respect! And thank you for posting awesome videos! Greetings from Norway :)

[APRVideos]

@kjellodnebreitebakk We are pretty excited to have APR representation in Norway and it sounds like you'll have one amazing passat very soon. Thank you!

[DeathCipris]

"Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races." And with the APR Stage 1 chip you are right at 300 ft/lbs on 93 oct. pump gas. The GTI is lighter and quicker than those heavy ass, American-made, next gen camaros and mustangs. You have to drop serious cash either ON a factory souped up mustang/camaro or put it IN the car for it to be worthwhile.

[StevenBTT]

its funny, you get one nice import, then everyone thinks their ricer mkv or gti w.e is the fastest shit on the street because it has a fart cannon, intake, and stickers. sorry. without a turbo, your doing 0-60 in 7 seconds with that 4 cyl

[APRVideos]

@StevenBTT Steven, the MKV GTI is only sold with a turbo. BTW not to get all youtubey but a stage 1 GTI (ie, just a chip) will beat your 2004 Mustang GT, easily. Deal with it. :)

[StevenBTT]

@APRVideos ik it has a turbo, hense the 2.0T, i ment an aftermarket turbo. that, and sorry, if just a chip did it, than everyone would be buying fwd shitty GTI's, and be having cars that run 0-60 in under 4.7 seconds with low 13's in the 1.4. didnt know 200 bucks could make your 0-60 drop 1.3 seconds and 2 seconds in the quarter. haha funny. also, its funny how i only put 700 in my car and im beating new camaro ss's to 100, and sweeping turbo'd ricers.

[APRVideos]

@StevenBTT Boring story.

[StevenBTT]

@APRVideos but true.

[APRVideos]

@StevenBTT Your story doesn't make any sense. Banned.

[tVKrippen]

@StevenBTT everyone is buying GTI's dumbass....

[Mikew995]

@StevenBTT You are such a pathetic liar its ridiculous.

[BimmerBoost]

Impressive, and over 400 whp is great.

- AudiBoost. com

[speedfightLC]

How many HP?

[APRVideos]

@speedfightLC Dyno at the end. 436 whp

[TastySnacks]

40-60mph in less than two seconds. I wanna has it

[peppeleontaranto]

pressure?

[r2kool4u]

Sick, my brother is thinking of going Stg3 on his 007 FSI probably with a 3076R turbo.

[wapreab]

is that a DSG?

[APRVideos]

@wapreab No, 6MT.

[th3m1ke]

@APRVideos super smooth shifts! This looks intense, any other angles Arin?

[APRVideos]

@th3m1ke I shot this quite some time ago. We did some outside the car shots, but they were rather boring.

[Ghines1279]

impressed.

[HAROGTI]

not interested in the stage 3, it cant even beat a stock r8 with 425hp, so how much for it to get where this car is right now, out the door

[APRVideos]

@HAROGTI You must start with a stage 3 to go stage 4.

Stage 3 beats an R8. Look at our other videos and you'll see it!

[bastard2k]

ya, the SLOW R8.

[dotkyo]

@HAROGTI so wuts the retail value of an R8 compared to a stage 3 GTI?

[beaky1706]

@HAROGTI you fat fuck

[HAROGTI]

@beaky1706 ARA i dont know who u are, but yes kou moret dzedzetsrem, fat fuck huh? 

[ronkerjake]

@HAROGTI stage 3 beats an r8, the k04 gti is what keeps up and loses

[miracle03]

@HAROGTI you're a fag, why the fuck are you comparing a gti with an r8?

[HAROGTI]

fsi

[APRVideos]

@HAROGTI Start with an APR Stage III. :)

[HAROGTI]

to get my 2008 bone stock DSG gti to be where this car is, how much would it cost me out the door~!

[APRVideos]

@HAROGTI TSI or FSI

[bigyankee86]

Hmmm...no head lights on at night huh? Yeah I'm sure that was on a closed track. hehe

[APRVideos]

@bigyankee86 Why do you believe this was at night or the headlights were not on?

[bigyankee86]

@APRVideos On the second run it looks like your camera was in some type of low light mode to compensate for the headlights not being on so as to not attract attention. It was just a crack at that even if the run was on a public road, you would probably want to put "closed track" for legal reasons.

[APRVideos]

@bigyankee86 I made the movie in iMovie which is pretty crappy when it comes to the auto color adjustment settings. I'm guessing I just didn't do a good job of editing the color. The video is also really cropped down so it only showed the gauges and not the drivers head so it didn't have the best resolution.

Also you can tell its day light by the reflection on the RPM tac. See how bright it is? It's just crappy color adjustments in iMovie.

[ridin4life100]

For some reason I dont think thats impressive, but ive seen this kid smoke a gto with a couple things done to it.

[DwnNvr]

You ought to list what is done to this car.

[APRVideos]

@DwnNvr APR Stage 3 kit, rods, pistons, rotated and balanced rotating assembly, high flow cams.

[DwnNvr]

@APRVideos Nice. Maybe I can get a hold of a gti with a wrecked engine for a little bit of money, and then put a new engine in with all these mods.

[PernellDD]

I can only say: HOLLY SHIT!!!!

[Devic13]

HOLY SHIT

[alexaysonfire]

is it possible to achieve a stable stage3 mkv gti with the dsg transmission? or will that turbo be too much power for the dsg?

[APRVideos]

@alexaysonfire Stage 3 is fine for the DSG transmission. :)

[alexaysonfire]

@APRVideos is it really?! so theres no problem that i would blow the motor or tranny with stock dsg software? im only asking cause i really want my car to be stage3

[APRVideos]

@alexaysonfire The DSG is pretty strong. We had one stage 3 customer who put over 80k on his with stage 3. He only ran 100 octane race gas mode and drag raced it with slicks all the time. In house we have several high mileage stage 3 DSG's. Also around the world we have tons of customers with stage 3 DSG's w/o issue.

[alexaysonfire]

@APRVideos wow great to know! thanks for the info!

[HylianFury]

now thats fast :D i wicch i had stage 3 on mine xD

[igottafc]

why doesnt that dyno run sound very healthy to me ? :(

[APRVideos]

@igottafc Because it's a loaded dyno that runs though the run only as fast as we tell it to run. IE, if we say we want the sweep to be 15 seconds long, it will be 15 seconds long just like it would on the road (not 4 seconds like some dynos).

Other dynos you see just blast though the rollers as fast as possible. This is not an accurate way to read power. A longer sweep will naturally cause more heat (just like on the road) and will report more of a real world number.

[chainlink990]

is that a retorical question?

[snaeper]

What course were you guys driving on during shooting?

[APRVideos]

@snaeper Private testing track.

[mozyne]

WTQ= wheel torque

[ShortGTI]

so all this GTI had was the Stage 3 kit including TBE , intercooler, intake ...anything else.. im curious on how it made 436whp ...

what was its WTQ btw..?

[APRVideos]

@ShortGTI Cams, lower compression, head work, new calibration.

[APRVideos]

@ShortGTI 342 wheel ft-lbs of torque.

[meucciqy]

can u kick evos stage 3 or 2 with ur car?

[CommanderB9488]

An Evo Stock is challenge for the GTI even with a mild turbo upgrade. AWD helps off the start. Also don't forget you can only put so much HP on a FWD car. Aerodynamics, car weight, and gear ratio also have an effect on overall out come as well as the driver skill.

[ShortGTI]

Damn! Do if i wanted to get the GT3076R, I would have to get pistons and rods,correct?

[APRVideos]

@ShortGTI Pistons/Rods/Cams

[ShortGTI]

so in this video it was the stage 3 with gt28?

so how much whp and tq did you have?

[APRVideos]

Gt2871r. Dyno at end. 436whp uncorrected on only 22lbs of boost.

[meucciqy]

i didnet get wat u said, see i have a giac stage 2 want to install a gt3076r so wil i hit more than 500+ and will i have problems with my car?

[APRVideos]

You will not hit 500 and you will have problems.

[meucciqy]

im planning to install gt3076r so how many horses will it hit ?

[APRVideos]

Revo = 280 bhp + failed turbo after 1k

uni = 280 bhp + blown motor instantly

APR = 760 awhp, raw as F.

[WeNeedFoodPlease]

what fucking monster do you guys have that is pushing 760 hp?!?!

[meucciqy]

man how many horses in this car? and wat turbo are u running on it

[APRVideos]

APR GT2871R, 500+ HP.

[STITZZZ]

its on a dyno why are you showing the pulls on a dyno. that doesnt men anything

[APRVideos]

This was shot on the street. You can easily tell it was shot on the street by watching the sun and light move over the gauge as it went around a curve.

The car is on a dyno at the end of the video to show the power it created.

[ahernandez4110]

APR is Nice, But To EXPENSIVE!!!!

[APRVideos]

The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. Benjamin Franklin

[WeNeedFoodPlease]

lmao so true...how much is the stage 3 kit anyway? there a stage 4 by any chance? if so i havent heard about it and i like to stand out....if yo know what i mean lol ;)

[yfzboy450]

lol not even close bud

[meucciqy]

k04? or gt28

[APRVideos]

GT2871R

[mdr279]

What can you guys do for a MKV R32 DSG?

[APRVideos]

APR Performance Software

APR Brembo Big Brake Kits

BBS wheels

Sachs Suspension

DXD Clutches

[alselmi82]

Do you guys have a tune kit for scirocco 2.0 tsi DSG?

[APRVideos]

This is actually on an FSI engine, which is found in the golf MK5's.

We do have another stage III kit for your engine though. Would you like more information?

[lightningxx]

Is this the stock turbo?

[APRVideos]

No. APR Stage III Turbo.

[lightningxx]

Which is? GT28r?

[APRVideos]

GT2871R

[vwkrazy]

sounds absolutely incredible, not too mention complete monster

[pacsum]

I hope APR releases a stage 3 for the golf R.

Is gas mileage bad with these stage 3 gti´s?

[APRVideos]

We already have a kit ready for it.

Gas mileage is the same or better under normal driving.

[james429]

APR, wow. You guys are amazing. I'm shopping now between GTI MVI (manual) and the Mazdaspeed 3. I currently own an '04 RX8 with engine mods - do you guys do mazdas? But with this as an option, I may go VDub. Don't think Mazda has a tuner to upgrade like this beast.

[APRVideos]

Thanks James!

We actually don't have anything for mazdas. In the US we primarily focus on VW, Audi and Porsche. Over seas we also work with SEAT and Skoda. From time to time we'll also get involved with a few other brands in the VAG family but those are our main brands.

If you go with a GTI MK6, look us up. We already have a pretty big lineup of products. :-)

[EaSonaToR]

wow this definitely got up there in no time

[tautvydasv]

What did you to dsg that it switches next around 7000rpm ?

[APRVideos]

This is a manual transmission.

[terbo2000]

I think this fits the definition of a sleeper pretty well...

[APRVideos]

Absolutely. The customer sent us his engine, we built it and threw it in one of our "test shell" vehicles we have laying around the office. Essentially it was a 100% oem vehicle except for our obvious upgrades under the hood.

The engine was then shipped off to a sexy race car we dubbed the 'supercopa' killer as he was racing agains SEAT Supercopas. :)

[lilmasterarj]

the speedometer goes up really fast! dang! if i had the money id go straight for apr tuning haha

[MaksimSF]

not impressed, would really like to see it with wheels on and with wind resistance.

[APRVideos]

The car is on the road. Look at the shadows and sun moving on the dash.

The car was placed on the dyno at the end of the video to show how much power it made.

[bogubbi111]

lol

[viziuz64]

what you need to reach stage lll in a GTI?

[Veee6]

how feels the gearbox with that power ??

[APRVideos]

Still feels good! :)

[AudiophileTubes]

0-60mph and 1/4 mile numbers PLEASE!

Phenomenal car. Congrats!

[SuperleggeraVW]

Look at the fuel gage move! Not something I'm used to in my TDI lol.

Great build, will we be seeing a stage 4?

[APRVideos]

Haha yeah, we did so many back to back pulls on the highway and took the best ones for the video. Really used up that fuel quickly!

Stage 4 will be based off this kit, which was a pretty hefty engine build. We have another local vehicle looking to start digging into the motor. :)

[TheYellowDartt]

OH MY GOD!!!! THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

[metalhead2016]

thats insane to think that, that motor is capable of that i love it i really wanna do that to mine

[cy4nyde]

We have a Mk5 with DSG on this setup and damn its ballistic!!

[WaZzAp11010]

Any chance DSG people can have this :D

[APRVideos]

I don't see why not. If it ends up being too much for the Stock DSG just upgrade the clutches. :)

[WaZzAp11010]

any chance APR will be doing DSG clutch packs. Rumor has it that DSG software will be out soon :D

[lameotet123]

Yes.. You can Have perofmance like this with the DSG... It will need some time on the DYNO.. It will need An APR Stage Three Flash,

[MRDOCMANNY]

was the video of the speedometer filmed while the car was sitting there with the wheels off???????????????

[APRVideos]

Street. Notice the sunlight on the dash moving as he goes around slight turns and changes direction?

[mozaks80]

Shiess that's powerful, i look forward to the Oceania pricing to be less restrictive and get me some APR tunage.

[HAROGTI]

wat is ur number to call you for these mods i wanna make my car as fast as this one!!!!!

[APRVideos]

Phone: (800) 680-7921

[carsdankandchicks]

proud to be an mk5 owner

[alexsitomas]

I was thinking to buy the stage 3 kit,if I run on 93 octane would I need internals,lower compression or any other modifications,or just buy the kit and be happy with 380 horses? thanks

[APRVideos]

The stage 3 kit does not require any modifications to the engine internals. The only time we require an upgrade is to the rods if you plan to use our 100 octane file.

If you plan to run the 93 octane kit, all you need is a GTI 2.0T, APR Stage 3 kit and exhaust.

[OCDrummer187]

This is awesome. Go Apr!

[yourfast07]

man u guys are freaks haha , this gti is F killer, how much boost? if i run ko4 with full exhaust, intake, intercooler , do i have to do anything with engine? like pistons or camshafts? please let me know, because im runing ko3 max boost is 26 psi and im thinking its little too much for stock engine, is it? really good job guys, i got apr chip

[APRVideos]

It's only running a little above 20psi.

Our Stage III kit requires no internal upgrades unless you plan to run the race fuel files. If you do, then you'll need to upgrade your rods.

For this engine build, yes, you absolutely need to upgrade engine internals. The rods and lower compression pistons are a must.

The boost you see with your stock turbo is fine.

[MikeHuntIsItchy]

How much it cost to upgrade your rods/pistons?

[APRVideos]

Depend on the shop and what you decide to throw in your car. Call around or give us a call.

[markmorrow8o]

whats the compression ratio? does it have any head work? valvetrain wise i mean, like cams?, or valve springs to rev higher? also what about bore and sleeves?, thanks in advance

[WaZzAp11010]

hey, does the 100 oct file request more boost, or is it just a timing thing that separates 93 nd 100?

[APRVideos]

Fueling is an issue on this vehicle so boost is not much higher on the production 100 octane file. We are running below the factory MAP sensor limit. Timing is dramatically increased. For those who have upgraded their low side fueling system, and are able to keep up with fueling demands, we do have higher boosting race files we have delivered to customers on a case by case basis. The engineers like to speak with the customer to let them know everything before we hand out something that powerful.

[WaZzAp11010]

the low pressure fuel pump race file, the tune is still in coordination with the factory map I guess rite? so still ~22 psi?

[GTIBONO]

was there any weight reduction done to this vehicle?

[APRVideos]

Not in this video. The engine was simply dropped into an 06 package 1 GTI. The car was fully intact. The engine was then removed and sent to Dubai along with one of lead Mechanics for instillation in a race car.

[GTIBONO]

how much would that cost to do to an 07 mkv? labor and all the parts to have that exact performance

[APRVideos]

About $38,000.

[GTIBONO]

isnt that a bit steep.... i was thinkign turbo kit is 7.5k, internals would be 1.5kish, then exhaust another 1k from apr, but labor is that intense????? crazy

[APRVideos]

This isn't your average build. This is a full motorsport build. It starts with the full APR Stage 3 kit, intercooler, and exhaust system. We are preforming extensive work on the head, cams, and intake manifold. There are many more modifications inside the engine to save on rotational mass. The crank is modified and rebalanced. The upgraded rods are further modified by us. The upgrade pistons are also modified and coated. The tuning is custom to race league req. All build in house and supported.

[HAROGTI]

you never wrote back what do i need to go like that?? what turbo are you using whats boosting what internals have been replaced??? how much ???????/

[APRVideos]

HaroGTI, I'm sorry, I responded about 4 times but it appears it never actually posted.

This is the APR Stage III kit with 436 whp. It's running lower compression and is not even running hither boost than the production kit.

If you're interested send me an email.

[APRVideos]

email :

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[GTIBONO]

two thumps up for making wish i had the money

and amazing acceleration.... damn i wish that was in my car

[HAROGTI]

ok how many horsepower to the wheels and is this the rss kit? what mods does it have full bottom end built? okr ????? how much to make my car move like this???

[HAROGTI]

were you on the dyno? or on the street when you did the pulls?

[APRVideos]

The video was shot on the street. I have more video of drive bys but we kept those off so we could post the videos on vwvortex.

[HAROGTI]

omg i am so jealous you dont even know dude you can beat a z06 with that kinda pull, plz tell me that only stage3? nothing else? gt2871r??? is that the rsr or rss?? kit

[APRVideos]

This is a production APR Stage III kit using the gt2871r.

We dropped the compression slightly by throwing in lower compression rods which allowed for significant timing advance. We also put in Schick cams and did a small bit of head work. This allowed for the turbo to spool even faster.

The the only major calibration change from our stage 3 software was timing advance. The vehicle was still running only around 20lbs of boost.

The engine was crated and sent to our customer in Dubai.

[h0ckeyfreek20]

damn that thing pulls from 90-140 like my car pulls from 40-90 lol

[nbigdog2000]

That's insane!

[annfromfrisco]

wow

[bamurfey]

Such a nasty car guys. And I thought Stage 1 was fun to drive. :P