@shawngendreau & @jcarmack17 i always thought this very thing -- psych101, eh? -- but never took the time to write it. i also always felt that "common sense" should be rephrased "uncommon sense."
Why's that guy on his laptop? Okay, you're probably smart, you're educated and you're probably accomplished, but you're that much of an ignoramus to smash your face in your computer while someone's giving a speech? Welcome to speech 101, you have failed.
Too many futurists ignore the fact that human beings are basically emotional creatures with a calculator on top. You can't just have the calculator (the intellect) because then there would be no will. If you could somehow simulate emotions in machines how you do know they wouldn't end up being just as irrational as human beings. There is no logical path of "progress" that a machine can take. If you give it enough power it will be unpredictable and probably destroy us.
2030s singularity takes place, infinite technological progress, imaginary vr is commonplace, people will get to live any fantasy no matter how impossible, ultimate happiness
2200 universe becomes intelligent
2999 everything thats imaginable even unimaginable and everything beyond will be controlled and becomed of by posthuman, A.I. entities
3000 perfectly everything, omniverses, omni creations, gods, entities, etc.. everything thinkable will be controlled by perfect beings. fact
@SlayerGod999 the idea of infinite technological progress is completely retarded and is loaded with value judgments of what "progress" is. You can't just assume that because ram is getting faster every year that all the matter in the universe could somehow reorganize and become computationally perfect. This is religion folks, just as dogmatic as all the others and its hilarious to see self-proclaimed atheists latch on to it.
@SlayerGod999 What are you basing these predictions on? How can there be infinite technological progress if the size of transistors will have maxed out around then?
@TheGeorgevt well everyone has their opinions, for me i believe in infinite progress, becuase of the fact that if you look at curve of exponential growth it reaches infinity, and progress follows an exponential law, i know this may not make any sense, but remember these machines will be far beyond our feeble human comprehension and limited intelligence, they could cause some unseen event in which this happens, hopes this makes sense
@SlayerGod999 I agree with you in that the computers will have much different architecture and quantum computers will allow for vast advancements, however, I still believe ultimately that transistor based computers have a minimum transistor size that will be unable to be continued infinitely. What you said did make sense you just have to realize that to predict even 10 years into the future is excessively arrogant, especially considering that you haven't given any reasoning or data to support.
@SlayerGod999 The people of 1000, 1600, 1800, or even 1900, could have had no idea what was going to happen in 400 years, what makes you think that your predictions will be anything other than wishful thinking and pseudoscience?
@SlayerGod999 Also in regards to exponential growth, numbers are just numbers they can grow to infinite, however, our ability to create smaller and smaller chips has a limit that will be near or at the time that we hit the molecular size for transistors, and moore's law will break down once we get nearer and nearer to that limit due to quantum effects and the fact that these chips will be incredibly fragile without new architecture to keep out a tiny dust particle that will cause chaos otherwise
@manwithouthat44 we will have so much power over everything, that we will experience positive emotions, that far transcend, the ones this race is familiar of, perhaps permanently happy and can do anything are imaginations come up with, with no limit
@manwithouthat44 the fun will be in full immersion virtual reality - any situation you want and the ability to tweak and augment your emotional and sensory experience - this is at least what I hope for!
I need to make a point. In one of his videos, Ray makes a point whereby in order to catch a fly ball, a child has to solve 3 separate differential equations just to know which direction to move her hand, let alone the rest of it. I reflected on this and decided that, dogs too can catch a fly ball, therefore can a dog solve a differential equation?
I am not a neuroscientist, but I know a little bit about it. I plan to personally pursue this question that I came up with on my own.
adj. Of or relating to an exponent. Mathematics. Containing, involving, or expressed as an exponent. Expressed in terms of a designated power of e, the base of natural logarithms.
And lo, shall the believers be Uploaded, and dance among the stars in Joy forever! But they who reject the blessing of Technology will be cast onto the earth to Wither and Die: and they will know not the joys of the Aether, and thus be consigned to Oblivion. Thus spake the Prophet and Thus shall It Be.
AI is necessary for a rapid path to enlightenment and a quantum level of analysis capable of solving the impossibilities of black holes... Meaning not just a mastery of the electro magnetic force,next gravity by light, and finally the strong/weak nuclear forces as well.
the only reason that technology has grown so fast in the past century or so is because of the widespread use of fossil fuels and oil will run out far before 2045 when Kurzwell thinks this thing is going to happen. I hope that it does, but considering that a third of the planetary population relies on technology to feed themselves, and our only plentiful source of energy is fossil fuels... I'm not saying its the apocalypse, but things are going to get worse before they get better.
Funny that his reading machine took forever to work in the beginning. Maybe it will be a few more years than he thinks for machines to develop consciousness.
Kurzweil: "people weren't really using search engines 5-6 years ago"
Really?!?! Anyone here not using search engines in 2000? Come on Kurzweil tech isn't moving as fast as you'd love us to believe. Sometime it picks up and follows an exponential model and other times it's slow and painstakingly linear.
@viper8red Painstakingly linear? Since when...the rate that tech has been improving in the last COUPLE decades has been exponential. In the last 6 years it has grown by several multiples of magnitude. Look at what was impressive only 3 years ago when this was made in comparison to today.
@ajf1060 It depends on what technology you look at. Look at the Axe, that technology wasn't replaced with the saw for one hell of a long time. Now if tech can be extremely slow what makes you think there won't be new slow downs in the future. I think it takes faith to believe that tech will only grow exponentially from here on out based on the last few decades. That sure isn't a lot of time to go on given the course of human history.
Kurzweil is a rapture-obsessed wacky kook. Obsessed with the techno-rapture that he thinks is coming by 2045. It isn't. I know for a fact that it isn't. Ray can shove all the charts and graphs in our faces as he wants, graphs plotting exponential progress are just as effective as testimonials on alternative medicine, they won't prove jack shit. He has been wrong regarding the year 2009, and he will be even more wrong in the future. He is going to die, like the rest of us.
@OxygenBurglar What's wrong with having hopes ? Humanity would have been nowhere without hope. We would still be playing with dump and mud. Religion is also hope but it leads absolutely to nowhere, on the contrary. What these guys say just "might" have a chance, even if it is only a part, or slower as they say, it still would be a result, progress. And yes Ray will die, just like all of us (it is just too soon in history to reverse aging) but at least he will be frozen and you will rot.
The religious/philosophical debate going on here is totally missing the point of this video - the point is: the future is going to blow your mind; so be patient, stay tuned and maybe the questions you are debating will be answered in your lifetime ^_^
within that universe they will probably create beings to their liking to interact with. They will probably often ignore or cheat the laws of physics within their private dimensions, pick favourites and set up arbitrairy rules (i'm basing this on anacdotal evidence, but anyone I know plays the sims like this, and i'm told this is pretty common sims gaming behavior). The problem is: how do you know this hasnt happened before? isn't Jehova/God/Allah as a post-singularity being a likely scenario?
@Thescarydutchman LOL, I like how you like to compare religion and science as one thing, when they are polar opposites. Christianity is not reasoning, Physics is reasoning. Christianity doesn't evolve like Physics with new laws. Christianity is stagnant and reliant on books supposedly written with the help of god by certain random individuals in obscurity. CHRISTIANITY IS FAKE!!! It was made with a guy with a pen, who liked to talk out of his ass!
@Thescarydutchman my bad thescarydutchman, thought u were sum religious guy talking out of your ass when you mentioned Jehova/God/Allah. I never said it hasn't happened before, based on what Einstein said all events occur simultaneously and M-theory, it has already occurred and only our consciousness of time prevents us from realizing this.
@Thescarydutchman you can't cheat or break the laws of physics. As soon as you break them, it means they were wrong and must be rewritten. Your second point is philosophically interesting though - a homo sapien god insurgency in 5,000 years? If that were true, I'd like to think we could do a better job than whatever came before. All the same, I don't think any kind of god is 'likely'.
the pick of single person "knowing" lays somewhere in the late renaissance era, progress is too fast and deep to follow, there's more and more "believing" then "knowing", in this sense be are steping back to the middle ages, singularity as the point in history at which no unenhencement human could follow the progress doesnt look nice
ergo : singularity isnt nice, except for techno-geeks ;p , but in above context it's inevitable
the pick of single person "knowing" lays somewhere in the late renaissance era, progress is too fast and deep to follow, there's more and more "believing" then "knowing", in this sense be are steping back to the middle ages, singularity as the point in history at which no unenhencement human could follow the progress doesnt look nice
ergo : singularity isnt nice, except for techno-geeks ;p
Ray is hiding a couple of ugly truths and a ultimate flaw. The mentally ill are being abused by big pharma to fund neuroscience wile cannabis a harmless natural free treatment is being suppressed. For computers to take the final step, WW3 will be necessary to obtain the resources required to build a city sized nanotech CPU factory. A brain is physical, A mind is spiritual. ref "Is Your Brain Really Necessary" Science, 12 December 1980 pp. 1232-4
@Php48 What makes you think the mind is "spiritual"? There's no evidence for that. All of science points to the fact that the mind is a process conducted by the brain.
@Php48 Interesting stuff, but not evidence that the mind is not produced by the brain. This work shows that a brain, subjected to a gradual buildup of intracranial fluid in early childhood, can adapt to maintain function. There was a loss of white matter in these brains, which means the neurons were compressed, like a sponge, so the small size can be misleading. Also, it is not good science to pick out ONE scientist's work in order to contradict all other work on the brain.
@Vincentaneous ,,, I suggest you look deeper into his more debated cases,,,. Also I think you should watch "holographic universe" on youtube, There is a lot of scientific evidence that points to the mind being spiritual.
@Php48 1) I read the first half of "The Holographic Universe", then stopped because it began to sound more like philosophy and speculation than actual observation. 2) If there is all this scientific evidence, why are most scientists not spiritual? The majority of scientists reject the idea of a soul.
If we wish to put an end to these ridiculous youtube comments then the best way to do that is stop reacting to them - stop making counter remarks - stop opposing them! These people depend on your opposition and objection to their remarks!
Once you oppose their ridiculous comments and remarks they will continue to exist! If everyone was just to ignore these trolls then they would get bored - they would have no one to create arguments with!
If you believe Kurzweil's bullshit for one second, then you've been had. You're blind. Belief in Kurzweil's misunderstandings about the human brain requires a complete and utter suspension of critical faculties. If I was Ray, I would rethink my position as techno-spiritual leader and blatherer of nonsense as soon-as-freaking-possible.
@OxygenBurglar If you believe Kurzweil's bullshit blah blah blah *yawn*
His accomplishments, along with the prizes, honorary doctorates, the credientials beg to differ. You simply say it's bullshit. If that were really true, RK would not be where he is doing what he does, accomplishing anything at all.
He can prove himself. You can't. To any lucid, thinking person, the one to actually pay attention to would be RK. The one blathering nonsense seems to be all you.
I have the same contempt for Kurzweil (Church of Singularitarianism) as I do with people like L. Ron Hubbard (Church of Scientology) and Rael (Church of Raelism). He's so obviously full of caca it's not funny. He does not understand a thing about the brain, and his techno-spiritual buffoonery needs to be ignored at all costs.
Kurzweil is a religious leader and a pseudoscientific nincompoop. He's so fucking wrong it's not funny. PZ Myers tore his pathetic ravings apart in his recent blog post, and I like that.
Kurzweil is a religious leader and a pseudoscientific nincompoop. He's so fucking wrong it's not funny. PZ Myers tore his pathetic ravings apart in his recent blog post, and I like that.
@OxygenBurglar Ray Kurzweil Does Not Understand The Brain.
And you do? You sound more like a drone follower parroting off something you, yourself, don't quite understand. You troll these videos and leave the same remarks but you've yet to actually clarify how he doesn't understand the brain and why he is what you presume he is (or isn't).
Otherwise you're just a troll. A pointless waste of time troll at that.
@NikkiBastion From PZ Myers, who understands the brain a lot better than Kurzweil.
"Kurzweil knows nothing about how the brain works. It's design is not encoded in the genome: what's in the genome is a collection of molecular tools wrapped up in bits of conditional logic, the regulatory part of the genome, that makes cells responsive to interactions with a complex environment."
"The brain unfolds during development, by means of essential cell:cell interactions, of which we understand only a tiny fraction. The end result is a brain that is much, much more than simply the sum of the nucleotides that encode a few thousand proteins. He has to simulate all of development from his codebase in order to generate a brain simulator, and he isn't even aware of the magnitude of that problem."
I hope the future plays out like he says it will. I actually believe in some sort of God or something but fuck him,/her/it it doesn't seem like we have anything helping us on this earth so it's people like ray who are helping. But it's all up to how we want to use technology.
I wish I had Neoaeonian's optimism, I want a positive Singularity to happen more than anyone I know, this world needs it. But realistically I can't say that Ray Kurzweil is a valid thinker. I can't help but look at all of his predictions for 2009 (from The Age of Spiritual Machines) that didn't even come close. If he got so much wrong beforehand, how well does that bode for his more recent predictions?
Mike Treder - in his articles for the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies - completely rips Kurzweil's arguments into shreds. The exponential growth of technological progress will be sidetracked by ethical, economic, political and environmental issues.
You're going to have to give a better pointer to his articles than that, as I looked up 5 of them and not a one is convincing, or even relevant to the over-ridding premise that technological advance is on an exponentical growth curve that will surpass humans with $2000 or cheaper robots within 2-3 decades, robots capable of solving all +environment problems far better than we are now. Where's even a single article that shows what stops this?
There is only one major change that matters, and that is the reversal of aging. Most of the people alive when that becomes commonplace will get to see almost everything else, regardless of the pace.
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Most of us will survive to see this.
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The only thing I don't understand is why people don't see this, don't talk about it, don't know about it.
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Exponential growth is happening right in front of us. I don't know how people can't see it. It's like living in the land of the blind.
@OxygenBurglar Re: it's much further away than you think
I think it's within 30 years, tops. Robots walk and drive cars now. $100 hard drives store more than we learn in a lifetime (though not yet more than we're born with)
We already know that some whales age far slower, if at all, and have far greater cancer resistance than we do.
You, and Treder are thinking linearly, and mechanically, not exponentially and biologically, and not doing the math.
Actually I once believed in Ray's theory of exponential growth and thought he was right on target...when I came across his writings for the first time. Mike Treder thought so too less than a decade ago.
I have since found out Ray's proposed rate of technological advance is being set back by economics, politics and the environment. Human concerns will add at least 50-100 years to his dates, and Kurzweil needs to face the facts.
@OxygenBurglar Forget Kurzweil, help ME "face the facts." Point me at an article that explains how the economics forces of China and India joining the global work force will hold things back, rather than propel them forward. Explain to me how the ecological forces at work with global warming are greater then the pollution of 1950-70s. Explain to me how new solar and battery tech suddenly stop driving tech and start holding it back.
I'm open minded, but I'm also well read, and I don't see it.
@OxygenBurglar everywhere I look I see forces pushing technology forward.
Did you read Venter's announcement? Are you subscribed to Ted talks? Have you seen the graphs of world trends? Do you know how close batteries are to passing up gas tanks as a practical fuel source?
I'm open to an article or argument that proves me wrong, but Mike's hand wringing and saying that we're going to stop advancing is denying history. Scitech isn't the cause of the problems, it's their solution.
@neoaeonian I read Venter's announcement of the creation of synthetic life, but it's a bit of a stretch to say that it could lead to lifespans of 500 and IQs of 1000 in 30 years' time. The correct funding must be there, but it isn't, and it would probably take several decades to reach a significant base.
@OxygenBurglar The breakthroughs needed for anti-aging are only about 10K times more complex than the genome project was. (exponential growth-wise that's only 15 doublings and 7 of them have already happened). The processor speedup required for 1000 IQs require only about 8 doublings, and only 100 more brain areas mapped (on top of the 20 or so already mapped). I'll repeat, you are thinking linear mechanical, but these advances are coming exponential biological. What was expensive is now cheap.
@OxygenBurglar, I'd agree with your pessimism if the only actors were Ventor, the Federal Government and Kurzweil, but that's not where the action is. The action is in 10,000 universities, and a 10 million garages around the world. This isn't some Manhattan Project effort that needs government backing, nor does it involve hard to find Uranium that makes it easy to restrict.
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1,000s are knowingly working on these things, 100s of thousands are unknowlingly contributing,
I'm constantly fighting the economic forces of media (danger and fear outsells optimism and historical perspective) that leads to over-reporting on the rare problem, and under-reporting on the common breakthroughs happening world-wide.
We live in an unusual era, so close to a super-age that it will be a real tragedy to miss. I fear for all the people who ignore their health when we are so very close to longevity escape velocity in a world of plenty for all.
Here's a talk that shows how the world is really going. We are in the midst of one of the greatest advances of progress in history. You'd never know it from the news, because their too busy following models.
There are huge changes, worldwide, that totally make trivial any particular politicians or pundit's pessimism.
@bigjoeangel No... humans will not "become" pure information. It's either we are pure information or not. By this, I mean that the mere fact of transcending our biological substrate does not influence or alter the true essence of "consciousness" or "soul" or whatever it is that make each beings "unique" and/or worthwhile. So, it's either, we are just a manifestation of some universal (like the law of acceleration asserted by Ray) with no will of our own... or we are something more than that.
I recently implemented a little joomla extension that would enable visitors of my website to hear the text of a page read by a Stephen Hawking computer vioce.
Later I disabled it again because the voice was just horrible.
Its incredible to see how amazing Ray's little lady-computer voice is in comparison.
(THIS IS A CLIP FROM 2006!).
I can perfectly understand her and her voice actually sounds good, too! =)
(And what do you know - I actually wrote "her" instead of "it")
I read Ray's book 'The Singularity is Near' and must say that the amount of evidence he gathers towards his thesis is breathtaking. Many people ponder about the future but Ray painstakingly backs up his views with real world results.
I am not familiar with any of this information most of it is new to me. Did Ray say that by 2018 computing as powerful as the human brain would cost $1000? This is new and interesting stuff to me. Thank goodness for Google and you tube.
theres no escaping the fact that only the losers will want the singularity, i'm happy with my life dont want an extension or upgrade dont seek it wont want it, all i see is that scientists are petrified of death and this fuels there need for control.
It is religious, science is an indoctrination to a cult and the apparent 'logic' and rational within can not be argued with.
I dont see scientists as able people in the slightest. These are the real disabled people.
Have you ever considered that you simply dont know everything? Can you see radio waves or magnetism? ...but you know its there right? i could continue on from the tiniest particle to solar and stellar systems... on and on until you get so bored...
We are all product of how our environment programs us and how we react to it. Question yourself. Is where it all begins.
Before becoming a trans-human, or wanting to depart into virtual reality worlds... We must first understand the nature of this reality and the multidimensional technology behind-it.
There are so many disciplines and new worlds already in the visible Universe alone. We don't need Virtual Reality + computer chip implants to browse the Internet for knowledge. Our highly advanced biological bodies may already have the ability to do just that and we don't know how to interface with it.
that's the point tim leary was trying to make about lsd. however, because computers can work at something endlessly, if we can program it to have the same structure as the brain, to work in the same way, then it can just work and work and work
We won't be happy to until they look like magic and the merging process looks like magic. Beautiful magic.
That will take more than 30 years. The ability to merge with machines will exist in 30-60 years, but the appeal won't exist for longer. We can grab some immortality along the way to wait till it is like magic.
To all you "smart people" making your lame remarks.... if you so much smarter than Ray then why are you not up there talking and making a difference in our world.
The people making assertions that conflict with your views do so because somebody else more educated presented that view and they felt it was a good one. Your belief is one derived from an intellectual's work, just as someone else's is. You cannot discredit their views just because they are not out there writing books on it; neither are you. Perhaps you are arrogant for refuting other beliefs and not writing books on it!
He talks about paradigm shifts. Well maybe the singularity won't happen when he says or happen at all with the paradigm shift of the NWO agenda and collapse of the world economy into a police state.
The sort of exponential growth that began circa three billion BC, the sort of technological growth that will soon culminate in the Singularity would be at this particular juncture COMPLETELY UNSUSTAINABLE without a free market society. China's reorganization and rapid ascension over the past fifty years or so is a wonderful example of this.
So the sort of NWO police state where a free market is nonexistent and everything is government regulated is just plain stupid since it will soon lead to technological backwardness.
That's not to say, however, that a good number of stupid, arrogant people with Machiavellian designs don't run the West. But they'll fail if their designs are based on true Communist principles and KGB measures. If they try to centralize and control technological innovation they will instead strangle the life out it and the entire organism will begin to die.
your opinion is to take every person and making them ok with puting them in a position in which they feel it is ok to stay simple and exept things when we can do so much more then excepting your faith pu then again it is your opinion so speak free and feel free. But you wont truly be free with religion sorry dude but that is my opinion.
Prepare to see more and more accusations by those that live their lives in fear (Those that are "religious") to protect their self imposed exile from reason the only way they know how: to ridicule and attack.
You will not be able to use reason to open their minds until you can show them it is their fear that is their own choice to ignore their own free will.
whoa i just went 2 far wit this computer thing that i cant get the hang ov and i found this now im gonna go and do everything iv always wanted 2 and not live 2 c this thing-a-mijig
Do you think if these things happen they will be so kind to make you a cyborg ? No, most of us don t even deserve this technology plus our personality will extinct because everyone will be pretty much the same.
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TheSpongion 2 weeks ago
@shawngendreau & @jcarmack17 i always thought this very thing -- psych101, eh? -- but never took the time to write it. i also always felt that "common sense" should be rephrased "uncommon sense."
egodust11 1 month ago
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ProgressiveOrigins 2 months ago
hes like woody allens twin brother. or is that racist
manwithouthat44 3 months ago
What is his book that he makes references to called?
billtyreerules 4 months ago
@billtyreerules The Singularity Is Near
rmk1960 4 months ago
@BadMannerKorea did you ever think he could be taking notes???
djkennyaz 5 months ago
Why's that guy on his laptop? Okay, you're probably smart, you're educated and you're probably accomplished, but you're that much of an ignoramus to smash your face in your computer while someone's giving a speech? Welcome to speech 101, you have failed.
BadMannerKorea 5 months ago
that old lady in the back is creepy looking
jcarmack17 5 months ago
Exponential growth is growing exponentially... this exponential comment was exponentially brought to you by an exponential troll douchebag.
EXPONENTIALLY GROWING!!!
D0p3Smuggl3r 5 months ago
Too many futurists ignore the fact that human beings are basically emotional creatures with a calculator on top. You can't just have the calculator (the intellect) because then there would be no will. If you could somehow simulate emotions in machines how you do know they wouldn't end up being just as irrational as human beings. There is no logical path of "progress" that a machine can take. If you give it enough power it will be unpredictable and probably destroy us.
version191 6 months ago
2030s singularity takes place, infinite technological progress, imaginary vr is commonplace, people will get to live any fantasy no matter how impossible, ultimate happiness
2200 universe becomes intelligent
2999 everything thats imaginable even unimaginable and everything beyond will be controlled and becomed of by posthuman, A.I. entities
3000 perfectly everything, omniverses, omni creations, gods, entities, etc.. everything thinkable will be controlled by perfect beings. fact
SlayerGod999 6 months ago
@SlayerGod999 the idea of infinite technological progress is completely retarded and is loaded with value judgments of what "progress" is. You can't just assume that because ram is getting faster every year that all the matter in the universe could somehow reorganize and become computationally perfect. This is religion folks, just as dogmatic as all the others and its hilarious to see self-proclaimed atheists latch on to it.
version191 6 months ago
@SlayerGod999 What are you basing these predictions on? How can there be infinite technological progress if the size of transistors will have maxed out around then?
TheGeorgevt 5 months ago
@TheGeorgevt well everyone has their opinions, for me i believe in infinite progress, becuase of the fact that if you look at curve of exponential growth it reaches infinity, and progress follows an exponential law, i know this may not make any sense, but remember these machines will be far beyond our feeble human comprehension and limited intelligence, they could cause some unseen event in which this happens, hopes this makes sense
SlayerGod999 5 months ago
@SlayerGod999 I agree with you in that the computers will have much different architecture and quantum computers will allow for vast advancements, however, I still believe ultimately that transistor based computers have a minimum transistor size that will be unable to be continued infinitely. What you said did make sense you just have to realize that to predict even 10 years into the future is excessively arrogant, especially considering that you haven't given any reasoning or data to support.
TheGeorgevt 5 months ago
@SlayerGod999 The people of 1000, 1600, 1800, or even 1900, could have had no idea what was going to happen in 400 years, what makes you think that your predictions will be anything other than wishful thinking and pseudoscience?
TheGeorgevt 5 months ago
@TheGeorgevt well thats your opinion, i still believe and kinda see what can and will happen, thx for the intellectual interaction
SlayerGod999 5 months ago
@SlayerGod999 Also in regards to exponential growth, numbers are just numbers they can grow to infinite, however, our ability to create smaller and smaller chips has a limit that will be near or at the time that we hit the molecular size for transistors, and moore's law will break down once we get nearer and nearer to that limit due to quantum effects and the fact that these chips will be incredibly fragile without new architecture to keep out a tiny dust particle that will cause chaos otherwise
TheGeorgevt 5 months ago
@SlayerGod999 what will be controlled if everything´s perfect Really, if computers do everything for us. wheres the fun.
manwithouthat44 3 months ago
@manwithouthat44 we will have so much power over everything, that we will experience positive emotions, that far transcend, the ones this race is familiar of, perhaps permanently happy and can do anything are imaginations come up with, with no limit
SlayerGod999 3 months ago
@manwithouthat44 the fun will be in full immersion virtual reality - any situation you want and the ability to tweak and augment your emotional and sensory experience - this is at least what I hope for!
CalumnMcAulay 2 months ago
"We took a large computer that simulated what we thought would be available in a PDA 5 years hence..." I love Moore's Law!
VulcanFleet 7 months ago
It was George Dubya Bush!
Rossclairborne 7 months ago
I need to make a point. In one of his videos, Ray makes a point whereby in order to catch a fly ball, a child has to solve 3 separate differential equations just to know which direction to move her hand, let alone the rest of it. I reflected on this and decided that, dogs too can catch a fly ball, therefore can a dog solve a differential equation?
I am not a neuroscientist, but I know a little bit about it. I plan to personally pursue this question that I came up with on my own.
xKlondikex 7 months ago
Listening to this reminds me how little I know. Probably why I enjoy it so much.
AriasRequiem 8 months ago in playlist Science, Transhumanism and the Singularity
As of 2011 there are now 36,800,000 pictures of dogs on google images and 30,500,000 pictures of cats on google images.
Lolaandthemachines 8 months ago
Most annoying introduction I've seen. Uhm, uhm, uhm, uhm uhh uhh, uhm.
OriginalMindTrick 8 months ago
adj. Of or relating to an exponent. Mathematics. Containing, involving, or expressed as an exponent. Expressed in terms of a designated power of e, the base of natural logarithms.
ActionCarl 9 months ago
the accuracy of the intonations of the woman's voice in that reading aloud gadget is amazing.
britmicro 9 months ago
And lo, shall the believers be Uploaded, and dance among the stars in Joy forever! But they who reject the blessing of Technology will be cast onto the earth to Wither and Die: and they will know not the joys of the Aether, and thus be consigned to Oblivion. Thus spake the Prophet and Thus shall It Be.
ActionCarl 10 months ago
@ActionCarl - do you not understand what "exponential" means?
shalafi00 9 months ago
@ActionCarl All hail Technology.
ikilledAeris 2 months ago
AI is necessary for a rapid path to enlightenment and a quantum level of analysis capable of solving the impossibilities of black holes... Meaning not just a mastery of the electro magnetic force,next gravity by light, and finally the strong/weak nuclear forces as well.
marekxiii 10 months ago
the only reason that technology has grown so fast in the past century or so is because of the widespread use of fossil fuels and oil will run out far before 2045 when Kurzwell thinks this thing is going to happen. I hope that it does, but considering that a third of the planetary population relies on technology to feed themselves, and our only plentiful source of energy is fossil fuels... I'm not saying its the apocalypse, but things are going to get worse before they get better.
Budzilla24 10 months ago
@Budzilla24 We won't be dependent on fossil fuel in 2045.
ivankaramasov 7 months ago
I hope Singularity happens soon so I will live forever. If it never happens human race will end D:
ipmasked 1 year ago
Funny that his reading machine took forever to work in the beginning. Maybe it will be a few more years than he thinks for machines to develop consciousness.
pab7984 1 year ago
Kurzweil: "people weren't really using search engines 5-6 years ago"
Really?!?! Anyone here not using search engines in 2000? Come on Kurzweil tech isn't moving as fast as you'd love us to believe. Sometime it picks up and follows an exponential model and other times it's slow and painstakingly linear.
viper8red 1 year ago
@viper8red Painstakingly linear? Since when...the rate that tech has been improving in the last COUPLE decades has been exponential. In the last 6 years it has grown by several multiples of magnitude. Look at what was impressive only 3 years ago when this was made in comparison to today.
ajf1060 1 year ago
@ajf1060 It depends on what technology you look at. Look at the Axe, that technology wasn't replaced with the saw for one hell of a long time. Now if tech can be extremely slow what makes you think there won't be new slow downs in the future. I think it takes faith to believe that tech will only grow exponentially from here on out based on the last few decades. That sure isn't a lot of time to go on given the course of human history.
viper8red 1 year ago
Kurzweil is a rapture-obsessed wacky kook. Obsessed with the techno-rapture that he thinks is coming by 2045. It isn't. I know for a fact that it isn't. Ray can shove all the charts and graphs in our faces as he wants, graphs plotting exponential progress are just as effective as testimonials on alternative medicine, they won't prove jack shit. He has been wrong regarding the year 2009, and he will be even more wrong in the future. He is going to die, like the rest of us.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar What's wrong with having hopes ? Humanity would have been nowhere without hope. We would still be playing with dump and mud. Religion is also hope but it leads absolutely to nowhere, on the contrary. What these guys say just "might" have a chance, even if it is only a part, or slower as they say, it still would be a result, progress. And yes Ray will die, just like all of us (it is just too soon in history to reverse aging) but at least he will be frozen and you will rot.
efferelaxe 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar He certainly may be wrong about the timing, but he certainly isn't wrong about exponential growth.
ivankaramasov 7 months ago
Kurzweil's gospel axe has been swung for far too long.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
are those guys on facebook or something, i mean come on.
papatia 1 year ago
The religious/philosophical debate going on here is totally missing the point of this video - the point is: the future is going to blow your mind; so be patient, stay tuned and maybe the questions you are debating will be answered in your lifetime ^_^
zeekle 1 year ago
One day everyone will be able to create their own universe in their own dimension.
youngstunna79 1 year ago
within that universe they will probably create beings to their liking to interact with. They will probably often ignore or cheat the laws of physics within their private dimensions, pick favourites and set up arbitrairy rules (i'm basing this on anacdotal evidence, but anyone I know plays the sims like this, and i'm told this is pretty common sims gaming behavior). The problem is: how do you know this hasnt happened before? isn't Jehova/God/Allah as a post-singularity being a likely scenario?
Thescarydutchman 1 year ago
@Thescarydutchman LOL, I like how you like to compare religion and science as one thing, when they are polar opposites. Christianity is not reasoning, Physics is reasoning. Christianity doesn't evolve like Physics with new laws. Christianity is stagnant and reliant on books supposedly written with the help of god by certain random individuals in obscurity. CHRISTIANITY IS FAKE!!! It was made with a guy with a pen, who liked to talk out of his ass!
youngstunna79 1 year ago
@youngstunna79 YOU'RE right man, a hell of an ass!
efferelaxe 1 year ago
@Thescarydutchman my bad thescarydutchman, thought u were sum religious guy talking out of your ass when you mentioned Jehova/God/Allah. I never said it hasn't happened before, based on what Einstein said all events occur simultaneously and M-theory, it has already occurred and only our consciousness of time prevents us from realizing this.
youngstunna79 1 year ago
@youngstunna79 no i'm no christian, i was merely amused by the notion of humanity becoming the god that they have envisioned for ages.
Thescarydutchman 1 year ago
@Thescarydutchman you can't cheat or break the laws of physics. As soon as you break them, it means they were wrong and must be rewritten. Your second point is philosophically interesting though - a homo sapien god insurgency in 5,000 years? If that were true, I'd like to think we could do a better job than whatever came before. All the same, I don't think any kind of god is 'likely'.
MichaelDemimonde 1 year ago
the pick of single person "knowing" lays somewhere in the late renaissance era, progress is too fast and deep to follow, there's more and more "believing" then "knowing", in this sense be are steping back to the middle ages, singularity as the point in history at which no unenhencement human could follow the progress doesnt look nice
ergo : singularity isnt nice, except for techno-geeks ;p , but in above context it's inevitable
plmqas 1 year ago
the pick of single person "knowing" lays somewhere in the late renaissance era, progress is too fast and deep to follow, there's more and more "believing" then "knowing", in this sense be are steping back to the middle ages, singularity as the point in history at which no unenhencement human could follow the progress doesnt look nice
ergo : singularity isnt nice, except for techno-geeks ;p
plmqas 1 year ago
Ray is hiding a couple of ugly truths and a ultimate flaw. The mentally ill are being abused by big pharma to fund neuroscience wile cannabis a harmless natural free treatment is being suppressed. For computers to take the final step, WW3 will be necessary to obtain the resources required to build a city sized nanotech CPU factory. A brain is physical, A mind is spiritual. ref "Is Your Brain Really Necessary" Science, 12 December 1980 pp. 1232-4
Php48 1 year ago
@Php48 What makes you think the mind is "spiritual"? There's no evidence for that. All of science points to the fact that the mind is a process conducted by the brain.
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
@Vincentaneous ,,, check out the work of John Lorber of Sheffield University, who has studied hydrocephalus.
Php48 1 year ago
@Php48 Interesting stuff, but not evidence that the mind is not produced by the brain. This work shows that a brain, subjected to a gradual buildup of intracranial fluid in early childhood, can adapt to maintain function. There was a loss of white matter in these brains, which means the neurons were compressed, like a sponge, so the small size can be misleading. Also, it is not good science to pick out ONE scientist's work in order to contradict all other work on the brain.
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
@Vincentaneous ,,, I suggest you look deeper into his more debated cases,,,. Also I think you should watch "holographic universe" on youtube, There is a lot of scientific evidence that points to the mind being spiritual.
Php48 1 year ago
@Php48 1) I read the first half of "The Holographic Universe", then stopped because it began to sound more like philosophy and speculation than actual observation. 2) If there is all this scientific evidence, why are most scientists not spiritual? The majority of scientists reject the idea of a soul.
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OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar and your mama!
EdisonAndHirsch 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar Trolls should be sterilized lol
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
with opencv i can do that
elchippe 1 year ago
If we wish to put an end to these ridiculous youtube comments then the best way to do that is stop reacting to them - stop making counter remarks - stop opposing them! These people depend on your opposition and objection to their remarks!
Once you oppose their ridiculous comments and remarks they will continue to exist! If everyone was just to ignore these trolls then they would get bored - they would have no one to create arguments with!
cacaolover1 1 year ago 24
@cacaolover1 Ahh, very wise.
hubbabubbarubbalubba 2 months ago
@cacaolover1 in other words don't feed the troll?
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cacaolover1 1 year ago
If you believe Kurzweil's bullshit for one second, then you've been had. You're blind. Belief in Kurzweil's misunderstandings about the human brain requires a complete and utter suspension of critical faculties. If I was Ray, I would rethink my position as techno-spiritual leader and blatherer of nonsense as soon-as-freaking-possible.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar If you believe Kurzweil's bullshit blah blah blah *yawn*
His accomplishments, along with the prizes, honorary doctorates, the credientials beg to differ. You simply say it's bullshit. If that were really true, RK would not be where he is doing what he does, accomplishing anything at all.
He can prove himself. You can't. To any lucid, thinking person, the one to actually pay attention to would be RK. The one blathering nonsense seems to be all you.
NikkiBastion 1 year ago
I have the same contempt for Kurzweil (Church of Singularitarianism) as I do with people like L. Ron Hubbard (Church of Scientology) and Rael (Church of Raelism). He's so obviously full of caca it's not funny. He does not understand a thing about the brain, and his techno-spiritual buffoonery needs to be ignored at all costs.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
Kurzweil is a religious leader and a pseudoscientific nincompoop. He's so fucking wrong it's not funny. PZ Myers tore his pathetic ravings apart in his recent blog post, and I like that.
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Kurzweil is a religious leader and a pseudoscientific nincompoop. He's so fucking wrong it's not funny. PZ Myers tore his pathetic ravings apart in his recent blog post, and I like that.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
Ray Kurzweil Does Not Understand The Brain.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar Ray Kurzweil Does Not Understand The Brain.
And you do? You sound more like a drone follower parroting off something you, yourself, don't quite understand. You troll these videos and leave the same remarks but you've yet to actually clarify how he doesn't understand the brain and why he is what you presume he is (or isn't).
Otherwise you're just a troll. A pointless waste of time troll at that.
NikkiBastion 1 year ago
@NikkiBastion From PZ Myers, who understands the brain a lot better than Kurzweil.
"Kurzweil knows nothing about how the brain works. It's design is not encoded in the genome: what's in the genome is a collection of molecular tools wrapped up in bits of conditional logic, the regulatory part of the genome, that makes cells responsive to interactions with a complex environment."
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
"The brain unfolds during development, by means of essential cell:cell interactions, of which we understand only a tiny fraction. The end result is a brain that is much, much more than simply the sum of the nucleotides that encode a few thousand proteins. He has to simulate all of development from his codebase in order to generate a brain simulator, and he isn't even aware of the magnitude of that problem."
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
Intro ends 2:06
Ray begins talking at 2:21
JaredTheTwitch 1 year ago 2
I hope the future plays out like he says it will. I actually believe in some sort of God or something but fuck him,/her/it it doesn't seem like we have anything helping us on this earth so it's people like ray who are helping. But it's all up to how we want to use technology.
JG129 1 year ago
Ray Kurzweil for President!
shawngendreau 1 year ago 11
@shawngendreau that's hilarious because i wrote that exact comment on a different kurzweil video.
jcarmack17 5 months ago
I wish I had Neoaeonian's optimism, I want a positive Singularity to happen more than anyone I know, this world needs it. But realistically I can't say that Ray Kurzweil is a valid thinker. I can't help but look at all of his predictions for 2009 (from The Age of Spiritual Machines) that didn't even come close. If he got so much wrong beforehand, how well does that bode for his more recent predictions?
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar What predictions didn't even come close ? I'd love for you to explain.
JG129 1 year ago
@JG129 dont you just love how he never replied. :D
w00t
XxSnip3rElitexX 1 year ago
@XxSnip3rElitexX hahah yeah , I figured he wouldn't lol !!
JG129 1 year ago
I wonder if the image recognition AI will confuse a "cat" with any picture with some goofy text on it.
MarkOates 1 year ago
Mike Treder - in his articles for the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies - completely rips Kurzweil's arguments into shreds. The exponential growth of technological progress will be sidetracked by ethical, economic, political and environmental issues.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar Re: MIke Treder ... rips into shreds
You're going to have to give a better pointer to his articles than that, as I looked up 5 of them and not a one is convincing, or even relevant to the over-ridding premise that technological advance is on an exponentical growth curve that will surpass humans with $2000 or cheaper robots within 2-3 decades, robots capable of solving all +environment problems far better than we are now. Where's even a single article that shows what stops this?
neoaeonian 1 year ago
There is only one major change that matters, and that is the reversal of aging. Most of the people alive when that becomes commonplace will get to see almost everything else, regardless of the pace.
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Most of us will survive to see this.
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The only thing I don't understand is why people don't see this, don't talk about it, don't know about it.
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Exponential growth is happening right in front of us. I don't know how people can't see it. It's like living in the land of the blind.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@neoaeonian
No we won't see this. It's much further away than you think.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar Re: it's much further away than you think
I think it's within 30 years, tops. Robots walk and drive cars now. $100 hard drives store more than we learn in a lifetime (though not yet more than we're born with)
We already know that some whales age far slower, if at all, and have far greater cancer resistance than we do.
You, and Treder are thinking linearly, and mechanically, not exponentially and biologically, and not doing the math.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@neoaeonian
Actually I once believed in Ray's theory of exponential growth and thought he was right on target...when I came across his writings for the first time. Mike Treder thought so too less than a decade ago.
I have since found out Ray's proposed rate of technological advance is being set back by economics, politics and the environment. Human concerns will add at least 50-100 years to his dates, and Kurzweil needs to face the facts.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar Forget Kurzweil, help ME "face the facts." Point me at an article that explains how the economics forces of China and India joining the global work force will hold things back, rather than propel them forward. Explain to me how the ecological forces at work with global warming are greater then the pollution of 1950-70s. Explain to me how new solar and battery tech suddenly stop driving tech and start holding it back.
I'm open minded, but I'm also well read, and I don't see it.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar everywhere I look I see forces pushing technology forward.
Did you read Venter's announcement? Are you subscribed to Ted talks? Have you seen the graphs of world trends? Do you know how close batteries are to passing up gas tanks as a practical fuel source?
I'm open to an article or argument that proves me wrong, but Mike's hand wringing and saying that we're going to stop advancing is denying history. Scitech isn't the cause of the problems, it's their solution.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@neoaeonian I read Venter's announcement of the creation of synthetic life, but it's a bit of a stretch to say that it could lead to lifespans of 500 and IQs of 1000 in 30 years' time. The correct funding must be there, but it isn't, and it would probably take several decades to reach a significant base.
OxygenBurglar 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar The breakthroughs needed for anti-aging are only about 10K times more complex than the genome project was. (exponential growth-wise that's only 15 doublings and 7 of them have already happened). The processor speedup required for 1000 IQs require only about 8 doublings, and only 100 more brain areas mapped (on top of the 20 or so already mapped). I'll repeat, you are thinking linear mechanical, but these advances are coming exponential biological. What was expensive is now cheap.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@OxygenBurglar, I'd agree with your pessimism if the only actors were Ventor, the Federal Government and Kurzweil, but that's not where the action is. The action is in 10,000 universities, and a 10 million garages around the world. This isn't some Manhattan Project effort that needs government backing, nor does it involve hard to find Uranium that makes it easy to restrict.
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1,000s are knowingly working on these things, 100s of thousands are unknowlingly contributing,
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@neoaeonian
The statement you have made is an excellent observation of exponential growth of information science.
even if your numbers were out by a factor of a 1000 the exponential growth doubling would still cause the growth to appear rapidly.
bighands69 1 year ago
@bighands69 Thanks
I'm constantly fighting the economic forces of media (danger and fear outsells optimism and historical perspective) that leads to over-reporting on the rare problem, and under-reporting on the common breakthroughs happening world-wide.
We live in an unusual era, so close to a super-age that it will be a real tragedy to miss. I fear for all the people who ignore their health when we are so very close to longevity escape velocity in a world of plenty for all.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
Here's a talk that shows how the world is really going. We are in the midst of one of the greatest advances of progress in history. You'd never know it from the news, because their too busy following models.
There are huge changes, worldwide, that totally make trivial any particular politicians or pundit's pessimism.
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QUEUECUMBER69 1 year ago
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seekfears 1 year ago
Humans will trancend their physical form and become pure information, then we'll be at one with the multiverse.
bigjoeangel 1 year ago
@bigjoeangel No... humans will not "become" pure information. It's either we are pure information or not. By this, I mean that the mere fact of transcending our biological substrate does not influence or alter the true essence of "consciousness" or "soul" or whatever it is that make each beings "unique" and/or worthwhile. So, it's either, we are just a manifestation of some universal (like the law of acceleration asserted by Ray) with no will of our own... or we are something more than that.
LordVesper 1 year ago
@LordVesper Yes, thats kind of what I meant, although with some humour.
bigjoeangel 1 year ago
Great video.
thenetaficionado2 1 year ago
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mcquoidellum 1 year ago
Ray K!!
christianhenrik 1 year ago
Humans will cease to exist, this is my future prediction.
foxbat101 1 year ago 3
If your interested in this I would suggest reading Pandoras star and Judas unchained.
CrazyC1456 1 year ago
great books
wiccianway 1 year ago 2
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roflzi 2 years ago
I recently implemented a little joomla extension that would enable visitors of my website to hear the text of a page read by a Stephen Hawking computer vioce.
Later I disabled it again because the voice was just horrible.
Its incredible to see how amazing Ray's little lady-computer voice is in comparison.
(THIS IS A CLIP FROM 2006!).
I can perfectly understand her and her voice actually sounds good, too! =)
(And what do you know - I actually wrote "her" instead of "it")
rickballance 2 years ago
The Age of Spiritual Machines is a great book & fun to read now 10 years later. Highly recommended.
And not that ANYbody cares, but Ray's cousin was my doctor for the longest time. He's an interesting guy, too. Brilliant.
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
Huh, Douglas Hofstadter is is on stage. Something tells me he's going voice serious reservations about Kurzweil's talk.
Let's see.
polymath7 2 years ago
The Singularity is really near. You are looking at the singularity right now: we call it the Internet.
MrJohnJamal 2 years ago
@MrJohnJamal, interesting point of view - but I believe it doesn't qualify because as far as we know, the internet is not sentient.
Or am I mistaken?
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
I read Ray's book 'The Singularity is Near' and must say that the amount of evidence he gathers towards his thesis is breathtaking. Many people ponder about the future but Ray painstakingly backs up his views with real world results.
MrReadingman 2 years ago 2
I am not familiar with any of this information most of it is new to me. Did Ray say that by 2018 computing as powerful as the human brain would cost $1000? This is new and interesting stuff to me. Thank goodness for Google and you tube.
esteban0321 2 years ago
@esteban0321, Read his book, The Age of Spiritual Machines. You'll love it.
EyeLean5280 2 years ago 2
just the usual redneck comments i see!!!
The ignorant seem to always invoke religion or race to make a point...HOW BORING!!
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@canangel75
so true...
EvilSECTOID 7 months ago
lol i wonder what outled said to deserve 10 thumbs downs
jeystonemusic 2 years ago
Make that 11!
deusAtheismus 2 years ago
@jeystonemusic, hit reply & his comment will show.
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
yeah
psilopath 2 years ago
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theres no escaping the fact that only the losers will want the singularity, i'm happy with my life dont want an extension or upgrade dont seek it wont want it, all i see is that scientists are petrified of death and this fuels there need for control.
It is religious, science is an indoctrination to a cult and the apparent 'logic' and rational within can not be argued with.
I dont see scientists as able people in the slightest. These are the real disabled people.
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singularity is good when the blacks aren't involved
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rimpick 2 years ago
Why did he say, "soon as society becomes wealthy the population growth stops"? @10:42? Yes, intuition is linear.
BigNewGames 2 years ago
It's basically true. Look up population growth recently (as well as projected) for industrialized nations compared to developing nations.
RockleTim 2 years ago
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Fnord23Gnosis 2 years ago
A better word for parallel development or covergence: Isotelesis
isotelesis1 2 years ago
make me a God!
bigglikeinit 2 years ago
even warhol turned up!
tysoninCoMa 2 years ago
callmeyang, i dont mean to be rude or anything, but are you high?
Poloapzy 2 years ago
Have you ever considered that you simply dont know everything? Can you see radio waves or magnetism? ...but you know its there right? i could continue on from the tiniest particle to solar and stellar systems... on and on until you get so bored...
We are all product of how our environment programs us and how we react to it. Question yourself. Is where it all begins.
Peace.
callmeyang 2 years ago
Anyway... Better HI than LOW "Poloapzy" :)
Thats what my mother always says...
callmeyang 2 years ago
Before becoming a trans-human, or wanting to depart into virtual reality worlds... We must first understand the nature of this reality and the multidimensional technology behind-it.
There are so many disciplines and new worlds already in the visible Universe alone. We don't need Virtual Reality + computer chip implants to browse the Internet for knowledge. Our highly advanced biological bodies may already have the ability to do just that and we don't know how to interface with it.
Peace.
callmeyang 2 years ago 3
that's the point tim leary was trying to make about lsd. however, because computers can work at something endlessly, if we can program it to have the same structure as the brain, to work in the same way, then it can just work and work and work
r0bz0mb13rcks 2 years ago
Leary wrote a work called Chaos & Cyber Culture in '94 ;-D... Add me to facebook we can chat sum more
Fnord23Gnosis 2 years ago
We won't be happy to until they look like magic and the merging process looks like magic. Beautiful magic.
That will take more than 30 years. The ability to merge with machines will exist in 30-60 years, but the appeal won't exist for longer. We can grab some immortality along the way to wait till it is like magic.
hellomate639 2 years ago 2
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Quex01 2 years ago
How do you define psychopath? Transhumanism, new man, cyborg. How many women wouldn't enjoy the "new man" ?
uuubeut 2 years ago
To all you "smart people" making your lame remarks.... if you so much smarter than Ray then why are you not up there talking and making a difference in our world.
So many morons in this world.
mdl76 2 years ago 36
@mdl76
The people making assertions that conflict with your views do so because somebody else more educated presented that view and they felt it was a good one. Your belief is one derived from an intellectual's work, just as someone else's is. You cannot discredit their views just because they are not out there writing books on it; neither are you. Perhaps you are arrogant for refuting other beliefs and not writing books on it!
meaning1 1 year ago
@mdl76 Kudos to you. Well said. Ignorant geeks makes the most noise.
lovetoact 1 year ago
@mdl76 I am. I'm dissing him.
intrascoobz 1 year ago
yeah right
kabalega1 2 years ago
i love the smirk after he's finished showing off his new gadget
zacharyvince 2 years ago
Who are those weird looking people sitting behind Kurzweil?
johnpdd 2 years ago
his homies
zacharyvince 2 years ago
hofstader is one of em
urthogie 2 years ago
dyslexia much?
vngu2547 2 years ago
When he sas: "although... this", he sounds like agent Smith.
1PostPoMoMaN1 2 years ago
He talks about paradigm shifts. Well maybe the singularity won't happen when he says or happen at all with the paradigm shift of the NWO agenda and collapse of the world economy into a police state.
lemdixon01 2 years ago
The sort of exponential growth that began circa three billion BC, the sort of technological growth that will soon culminate in the Singularity would be at this particular juncture COMPLETELY UNSUSTAINABLE without a free market society. China's reorganization and rapid ascension over the past fifty years or so is a wonderful example of this.
GoatDaddyVersion2 2 years ago
So the sort of NWO police state where a free market is nonexistent and everything is government regulated is just plain stupid since it will soon lead to technological backwardness.
GoatDaddyVersion2 2 years ago
That's not to say, however, that a good number of stupid, arrogant people with Machiavellian designs don't run the West. But they'll fail if their designs are based on true Communist principles and KGB measures. If they try to centralize and control technological innovation they will instead strangle the life out it and the entire organism will begin to die.
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It's as simple as something that nobody knows. Kurzweil has 100% faith in his belief but his underlying faith is in something that is wrong.
100% faith in the higher power is all we should have
btp12333 2 years ago
your opinion is to take every person and making them ok with puting them in a position in which they feel it is ok to stay simple and exept things when we can do so much more then excepting your faith pu then again it is your opinion so speak free and feel free. But you wont truly be free with religion sorry dude but that is my opinion.
putthisonmytab 2 years ago
Prepare to see more and more accusations by those that live their lives in fear (Those that are "religious") to protect their self imposed exile from reason the only way they know how: to ridicule and attack.
You will not be able to use reason to open their minds until you can show them it is their fear that is their own choice to ignore their own free will.
mathiastheok 2 years ago
if you like ray kurzweil and electronica music check out my tribute beat to ray:
waking up in the future - labguest
veach52 2 years ago
Imagine the singularity having the consciousness of a hedge hog?
ronphlf 2 years ago
wow.
sharpezor 2 years ago
whoa i just went 2 far wit this computer thing that i cant get the hang ov and i found this now im gonna go and do everything iv always wanted 2 and not live 2 c this thing-a-mijig
meliketokill 2 years ago
Do you think if these things happen they will be so kind to make you a cyborg ? No, most of us don t even deserve this technology plus our personality will extinct because everyone will be pretty much the same.
Lapicoz 2 years ago
I would think greater inteligence would be more likely to produce a greater variety of personality, rather lesser.
slauge 2 years ago 4