@GODH8ZZ You've assumed it's a sin based on what the bible says, before establishing that there is sufficient evidence to say that the bible is indeed the word of a god. I'd like to know, however, what is your opinion of homosexuals beyond what the bible says? In other words, if the bible didn't comment on being gay, would you still think what they were doing was wrong?
@Powerman3772 the laws of God are ingrained with the laws of nature. God calles it abomination - that is ,extremely filthy ., an apt description of them.
@GODH8ZZ I would be interested to know how you know this for a fact. And I take it as an insult on behalf of my friends who are gay that you would say such a thing. My friends who coincidentally happen to be gay, are among the most decent people I know, so I won't believe that they're abominable because I've met them, talked with them about it, and know better to judge a person by one fact about them. Although to be honest, you're making it pretty easy for me to judge you with the way you talk.
@Powerman3772 get real. that lifestyle is rife with disease, alcoholism addiction violence suicide , crime and death. They are intolerant vile filthy hateful beasts. Of course you get along judt fine with them because you go along with their perversion. Wathch some videos here on Yt of how they act when anyone disagrees with them. Ive had enough experiencd with them , they are sick
@GODH8ZZ If you have problems with any demographic, in your case gays, that's fine, don't talk to them. And if you don't talk to a specific group of people, you don't know anything about them personally, you only have what other people tell you, after they filter it with their own biases. If you want to come to a rational justification about gay people as a group, you first need to discuss it with them personally as individuals while always having an open mind. After that, THEN form an opinion.
@Powerman3772 your ignorance is not binding on me. sin is a curse. it brings Gods wrath on a people. the wages of sin is death. No sexually immoral person shall enter the kingdom of God. I dont need your permission or your approval to speak the truth. if you dont like it take your own advise and dont talk to me.
"Any objective person can see that the protestors were hateful and out of control while the preachers were calm and methodical."
Any objective person can see that the preachers were speading bronze age human sacrifice superstition in the 21st century. The restraint by the protesters in the face of intolerance and willful ignorance was magnificent.
@greekgoof exactly . the sodomites and their enablers are the real bigots are the real intolerance and the real bullys. if they have gay parades , expressing the belief that its ok to be gay, we are supposed to tolerate it., if we preach turn form sin, God says its NOT ok to be gay. they want to silence you by taking you to court. australia is upside down.
@GODH8ZZ I've made my point in my other comments about my beliefs about homosexuality, so I won't comment on that here, but I would also appreciate you not insulting the country that I was born in, have lived in for all my life, and has given me all the opportunity I could ask for and more, while (for the most part, I think this less upon seeing this video) keeping fundamentalism down. I'm no patriot, but this is another broad statement you've made about something not even relevant to you.
@Powerman3772 you dont choose for me what is relevant to me. and again i dont need your aproval or permission to express my opinion. God hates australia and he will judge it like he judged Sodom
@GODH8ZZ You're right, I don't, and you don't, and you're welcome to believe what you choose. The problem is that beliefs inform actions, and actions have consequences on others. If someone holding a certain view point acts prejudicially against another person and that person suffers because of it, then the beliefs are to blame. I am merely suggesting that you rationally inform your opinions. If you go looking and come to the same conclusion, all well and good, at least it'll be based on reason.
@Powerman3772 yes your actions of defending and promoting sin brings consequences- judgment upon the wole nation and your prejudice and supressing the preaching of the truth does also. When God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gommorah it was not only the perverts who were destoryed but every woman and child, goat,cow, chicken and goat. like I said , your ignorance is not binding on me.
@GODH8ZZ And like I said you are most welcome to believe what you desire, but you are not entitled to tell me what to think. I have not done that, I have merely asked you to earnestly evaluate your beliefs and prejudices to see if they are based on reason. You are also yet to answer any of the direct questions I have put to you. And if you don't want me to talk to you, all you need do is stop replying, I am merely responding to your words.
@GODH8ZZ And something I also said earlier, before you can claim that the bible's morality is to be taken seriously, you must first demonstrate that it is the utmost pure word of the Judeochristian god, which I have yet to seen achieved. Your assertion is based on biblical referencing, and your trust in the bible is based on faith, which is an assertion in lieu of justification and despite evidence to the contrary. This is the preachers' problem: they assert their beliefs without justification
@GODH8ZZ Well clearly this argument has devolved somewhat. But as I said if you don't want me to talk to you then you need only stop messaging. Also I'm going to assume you are at least a supporter of Westboro Baptist Church, if not an actual member so, I've been aware for this whole time that I have very little chance of helping you be more open-minded and respectful. Fortunately though other people will read these messages and see which one of us was the only one to devolve into using insults.
@GODH8ZZ sigh I've been as clear as I can be, given each message is less than 500 characters, and I fail to see how what I said doesn't make sense. In all seriousness, I would like to know what your issue is with gays beyond what the bible says, by which I mean (as I asked above but you didn't answer) if the bible didn't comment about it, do you think you would still have a problem with them?
@Powerman3772 yes you asked and I answered but you completely ignored me. I told you that from my vast personal experience with them I know the Bible is right , which you ignored completely and asserted that my opinions comes without reason or investigation. if you know who the wbc is you have no excuse to be so ignorant.
@GODH8ZZ I asked what your opinion would be if there was no supposedly divine ruling against it, and you mentioned "the laws of God". What I am asking is, if there was no God, would you still think poorly of gays?
@GODH8ZZ But if there was no god, the laws wouldn't be "ingrained in the laws of nature" as you put it. If these supposed laws weren't, would you still think they were bad people? I hypothesize that you would.
@Powerman3772 God did not give us commandmnets to deny us some fun . The commandments of God are for the best interests of the species. If you had a brain youd recognize that. You can pretend God does not exist but he does and his laws are fixed as the laws of nature/gravity etc. The standard from a religious, scientific , psychological, anthropological. historical, socialogical and any other way you can think of is ONE man ONE woman , ONE lifetime.
@GODH8ZZ I'll drop the fact that you still haven't answered the question. There isn't an American psychological, psychiatric or psychoanalytical association that would agree with you that sexuality is changeable or unnatural. Over 400 species have documented cases of homosexuality, but we're the only species with homophobia. A scientific definition of a "standard" is an observed phenomenon with which you can compare other observed phenomena, it speaks nothing to the morality of the situation.
@GODH8ZZ But still, above all that, you have yet to present a single justification that the bible is the accurate representation of the beliefs of a god, let alone any reason to believe that there is one. Talk like you have been all you want, none of it can change what I'm thinking because you haven't given me reason to accept it. Before I can listen to you, you have to prove the basis of all your claims and build from that. If you don't, I really don't understand why you're still talking to me.
@Powerman3772 now youre talking shit. making up facts,#1People, in fact, do change their sexuality period .#2 nature teaches you that man is made for woman ans woman man. you perhaps need a biology course. #3 if you are comparing homosexuals to animals then you are agreeing with God.#4 You call it a phobia , God calls it a conscience
@GODH8ZZ I'm not comparing homosexuals to animals, I don't need to because all humans are animals. People change their sexual behaviour, but that doesn't mean they change their inner sexual orientation. People who went through ex-gay ministries recanted their original stories of being changed. I am a student of biology actually, and it's empirically proven that a guy who's gay feels psychologically suited to a man. Consensus came up with the word homophobia, so I'll use it since it's convention.
@Powerman3772 yes you did absolutely compare them to animals. and thats what God says. and the reason you are that way is that you refused to acknowledge God and he gave you over to a reprobate mind. as all of your commets are evidence. Homophobia is a term coined to stifle any debate about the topic by coloring ppl who belive that homosex is a sin as bigots. Look you chose to refuse to believe thats your choice . the curses of God are on you.
@Powerman3772 the law of God is not abstract or arbitrary. it is based in the laws of nature. Sexual immorality spreads disease. The building block of society and civilization is the family. australia. has kicked those standards to the curb and has become a nation of diseased perverted reprobates. Judgment WILL come. Jesus gave you an object lesson - you reap what you sow. Its not abstract. you sow corn , you reap corn, You sow to the flesh , you reap corruption.
@GODH8ZZ I never said it was arbitrary, religious laws have arisen throughout the ages to deal with the problems of one society or another. Of course they're fitted to society, they're just very poorly fitted to a 21st century society. Besides, you do know that heterosexual people can spread disease too right? Gays by no means have that market cornered. And also, there's no gay marriage in Australia, if you want somewhere to be mad at, shouldn't you pick New York, or various parts of Europe?
@GODH8ZZ But again, you don't seem to understand. Not even miracles can prove biblical accuracy. If I saw, for example, water turning into wine, it doesn't prove it was God's work. I could be mistaken, some other religion's god could have done it, some other supernatural force might have done it, or maybe I just happened to look at a 1 in a trillion chemical event. I want to know why you believe that "Judgment WILL come" or that God is real, and if it's faith, we have nothing to discuss.
@Powerman3772 blah blah , the fact is God gave you over Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
@GODH8ZZ Before you get to quote the bible you must first demonstrate it's truthful nature. And you don't just get to wave me off here saying that I'll know when I'm in hell: I'm not afraid of hell for the same reason I'm not afraid of your God. I don't believe either exist. And I'll make this as clear as I can: I'm NOT saying "there is no god". What I'm saying is that I've seen no reason to believe YOUR claim that there is.
You can't assume the bible is true just to support your point of view.
@Powerman3772 I dont have to demonstate anything. as previously stated. Youre the one who will spend eternity in torment for sin. not me. you cant weasel out of it with words. Obey and be blessed, do not obey and be cursed. you choose curses , its on you and you alone.
@GODH8ZZ I choose to use my intellect to live the most moral and productive life I can. Unfortunately for Christianity, I can't reconcile faith and reason. I could just as easily propose the tenets of any other religion were true and say you're trying to weasel out of that. What you believe is your choice, but you can't convince me I'm doing something wrong just because it's different to what you do. This is, again, the problem of the Rundle Mall preachers.
@Powerman3772 I call bullshit to you false dichotomy. ''intellect v faith'' plenty of more intelligent men than you ae christian. Its down rignt stupid and ''unscientific to dismiss something without thorough investigation' and Im not trying to convince you of anything. only God himself can do that. and only if he chooses to.
@Powerman3772 youre obviously a perv. sucking on some filthy sin. Youve heard the words of WBC and you are convicted and trying to weasel out of it. good luck with that , the standards of God are like a plumbline- you cant mess with a plumbline. it always comes back to plumb. OBEY God and he will bless you , do not obey and he will curse you . end of story.
@GODH8ZZ You really don't seem to be understanding my point: you're using the bible to prove your standpoint, while your standpoint is dependent on the bible. Circular logic is the most viciously flawed of all fallacies: something cannot prove itself. You first need independent explanatory evidence to claim that what you are saying is true or at all authoritative. Demonstrate that, then I will have reason to believe you.
@Powerman3772 I understand perfectly. You perverts say you want physical proof that you can see with your 5 senses that something outside of your 5 senses exists , thats circular logic. OBEY and be blessed ddo not obey and be cursed. the plumbline will never move in spite of your many words.
@GODH8ZZ I think what you meant to imply is that I can't depend on senses without proof that they are accurate, but would need to use the senses to get proof at all. That argument falls because if all senses converge on a single answer then it can be understood that they independently verify each other. What I'm reading is that God exists outside of the senses, and so how can I distinguish what can't be detected from what simply isn't real? I'm glad to see you stopped the bible quoting btw :)
@Powerman3772 and stop lying theu do so have the disease market cornered. and you could have forseen that by reading romans 1 too. Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. the recompense is aids stds etc.
I really thought that Australia was above this kind of homophobia as a nation. This is deeply upsetting to me :(
Powerman3772 2 months ago
@Powerman3772 teaching you to turn from sin is not a phobia. wtf
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@GODH8ZZ You've assumed it's a sin based on what the bible says, before establishing that there is sufficient evidence to say that the bible is indeed the word of a god. I'd like to know, however, what is your opinion of homosexuals beyond what the bible says? In other words, if the bible didn't comment on being gay, would you still think what they were doing was wrong?
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 the laws of God are ingrained with the laws of nature. God calles it abomination - that is ,extremely filthy ., an apt description of them.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ I would be interested to know how you know this for a fact. And I take it as an insult on behalf of my friends who are gay that you would say such a thing. My friends who coincidentally happen to be gay, are among the most decent people I know, so I won't believe that they're abominable because I've met them, talked with them about it, and know better to judge a person by one fact about them. Although to be honest, you're making it pretty easy for me to judge you with the way you talk.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 get real. that lifestyle is rife with disease, alcoholism addiction violence suicide , crime and death. They are intolerant vile filthy hateful beasts. Of course you get along judt fine with them because you go along with their perversion. Wathch some videos here on Yt of how they act when anyone disagrees with them. Ive had enough experiencd with them , they are sick
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ If you have problems with any demographic, in your case gays, that's fine, don't talk to them. And if you don't talk to a specific group of people, you don't know anything about them personally, you only have what other people tell you, after they filter it with their own biases. If you want to come to a rational justification about gay people as a group, you first need to discuss it with them personally as individuals while always having an open mind. After that, THEN form an opinion.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 your ignorance is not binding on me. sin is a curse. it brings Gods wrath on a people. the wages of sin is death. No sexually immoral person shall enter the kingdom of God. I dont need your permission or your approval to speak the truth. if you dont like it take your own advise and dont talk to me.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
Any objective person can see that the protestors were hateful and out of control while the preachers were calm and methodical.
greekgoof 5 months ago
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@greekgoof
"Any objective person can see that the protestors were hateful and out of control while the preachers were calm and methodical."
Any objective person can see that the preachers were speading bronze age human sacrifice superstition in the 21st century. The restraint by the protesters in the face of intolerance and willful ignorance was magnificent.
joestfrancois 4 months ago
@greekgoof exactly . the sodomites and their enablers are the real bigots are the real intolerance and the real bullys. if they have gay parades , expressing the belief that its ok to be gay, we are supposed to tolerate it., if we preach turn form sin, God says its NOT ok to be gay. they want to silence you by taking you to court. australia is upside down.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@GODH8ZZ I've made my point in my other comments about my beliefs about homosexuality, so I won't comment on that here, but I would also appreciate you not insulting the country that I was born in, have lived in for all my life, and has given me all the opportunity I could ask for and more, while (for the most part, I think this less upon seeing this video) keeping fundamentalism down. I'm no patriot, but this is another broad statement you've made about something not even relevant to you.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 you dont choose for me what is relevant to me. and again i dont need your aproval or permission to express my opinion. God hates australia and he will judge it like he judged Sodom
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ You're right, I don't, and you don't, and you're welcome to believe what you choose. The problem is that beliefs inform actions, and actions have consequences on others. If someone holding a certain view point acts prejudicially against another person and that person suffers because of it, then the beliefs are to blame. I am merely suggesting that you rationally inform your opinions. If you go looking and come to the same conclusion, all well and good, at least it'll be based on reason.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 yes your actions of defending and promoting sin brings consequences- judgment upon the wole nation and your prejudice and supressing the preaching of the truth does also. When God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gommorah it was not only the perverts who were destoryed but every woman and child, goat,cow, chicken and goat. like I said , your ignorance is not binding on me.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ And like I said you are most welcome to believe what you desire, but you are not entitled to tell me what to think. I have not done that, I have merely asked you to earnestly evaluate your beliefs and prejudices to see if they are based on reason. You are also yet to answer any of the direct questions I have put to you. And if you don't want me to talk to you, all you need do is stop replying, I am merely responding to your words.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ And something I also said earlier, before you can claim that the bible's morality is to be taken seriously, you must first demonstrate that it is the utmost pure word of the Judeochristian god, which I have yet to seen achieved. Your assertion is based on biblical referencing, and your trust in the bible is based on faith, which is an assertion in lieu of justification and despite evidence to the contrary. This is the preachers' problem: they assert their beliefs without justification
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 I dont have to demonstrate anything loser. You will know it when youre in hell.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 youre saying nothing! Im welcome to believe what I want" wtf I need you to tell me that" LOL .
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
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GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ Well clearly this argument has devolved somewhat. But as I said if you don't want me to talk to you then you need only stop messaging. Also I'm going to assume you are at least a supporter of Westboro Baptist Church, if not an actual member so, I've been aware for this whole time that I have very little chance of helping you be more open-minded and respectful. Fortunately though other people will read these messages and see which one of us was the only one to devolve into using insults.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 australia land of the sodomite damned
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ sigh I've been as clear as I can be, given each message is less than 500 characters, and I fail to see how what I said doesn't make sense. In all seriousness, I would like to know what your issue is with gays beyond what the bible says, by which I mean (as I asked above but you didn't answer) if the bible didn't comment about it, do you think you would still have a problem with them?
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 yes you asked and I answered but you completely ignored me. I told you that from my vast personal experience with them I know the Bible is right , which you ignored completely and asserted that my opinions comes without reason or investigation. if you know who the wbc is you have no excuse to be so ignorant.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ I asked what your opinion would be if there was no supposedly divine ruling against it, and you mentioned "the laws of God". What I am asking is, if there was no God, would you still think poorly of gays?
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 and I answered you.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ But if there was no god, the laws wouldn't be "ingrained in the laws of nature" as you put it. If these supposed laws weren't, would you still think they were bad people? I hypothesize that you would.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 God did not give us commandmnets to deny us some fun . The commandments of God are for the best interests of the species. If you had a brain youd recognize that. You can pretend God does not exist but he does and his laws are fixed as the laws of nature/gravity etc. The standard from a religious, scientific , psychological, anthropological. historical, socialogical and any other way you can think of is ONE man ONE woman , ONE lifetime.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ I'll drop the fact that you still haven't answered the question. There isn't an American psychological, psychiatric or psychoanalytical association that would agree with you that sexuality is changeable or unnatural. Over 400 species have documented cases of homosexuality, but we're the only species with homophobia. A scientific definition of a "standard" is an observed phenomenon with which you can compare other observed phenomena, it speaks nothing to the morality of the situation.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ But still, above all that, you have yet to present a single justification that the bible is the accurate representation of the beliefs of a god, let alone any reason to believe that there is one. Talk like you have been all you want, none of it can change what I'm thinking because you haven't given me reason to accept it. Before I can listen to you, you have to prove the basis of all your claims and build from that. If you don't, I really don't understand why you're still talking to me.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
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GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
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@Powerman3772 now youre talking shit. making up facts,#1People, in fact, do change their sexuality period .#2 nature teaches you that man is made for woman ans woman man. you perhaps need a biology course. #3 if you are comparing homosexuals to animals then you are agreeing with God.#4 You call it a phobia , God calls it a conscience
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ I'm not comparing homosexuals to animals, I don't need to because all humans are animals. People change their sexual behaviour, but that doesn't mean they change their inner sexual orientation. People who went through ex-gay ministries recanted their original stories of being changed. I am a student of biology actually, and it's empirically proven that a guy who's gay feels psychologically suited to a man. Consensus came up with the word homophobia, so I'll use it since it's convention.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 yes you did absolutely compare them to animals. and thats what God says. and the reason you are that way is that you refused to acknowledge God and he gave you over to a reprobate mind. as all of your commets are evidence. Homophobia is a term coined to stifle any debate about the topic by coloring ppl who belive that homosex is a sin as bigots. Look you chose to refuse to believe thats your choice . the curses of God are on you.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 the law of God is not abstract or arbitrary. it is based in the laws of nature. Sexual immorality spreads disease. The building block of society and civilization is the family. australia. has kicked those standards to the curb and has become a nation of diseased perverted reprobates. Judgment WILL come. Jesus gave you an object lesson - you reap what you sow. Its not abstract. you sow corn , you reap corn, You sow to the flesh , you reap corruption.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ I never said it was arbitrary, religious laws have arisen throughout the ages to deal with the problems of one society or another. Of course they're fitted to society, they're just very poorly fitted to a 21st century society. Besides, you do know that heterosexual people can spread disease too right? Gays by no means have that market cornered. And also, there's no gay marriage in Australia, if you want somewhere to be mad at, shouldn't you pick New York, or various parts of Europe?
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ But again, you don't seem to understand. Not even miracles can prove biblical accuracy. If I saw, for example, water turning into wine, it doesn't prove it was God's work. I could be mistaken, some other religion's god could have done it, some other supernatural force might have done it, or maybe I just happened to look at a 1 in a trillion chemical event. I want to know why you believe that "Judgment WILL come" or that God is real, and if it's faith, we have nothing to discuss.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 blah blah , the fact is God gave you over Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ Before you get to quote the bible you must first demonstrate it's truthful nature. And you don't just get to wave me off here saying that I'll know when I'm in hell: I'm not afraid of hell for the same reason I'm not afraid of your God. I don't believe either exist. And I'll make this as clear as I can: I'm NOT saying "there is no god". What I'm saying is that I've seen no reason to believe YOUR claim that there is.
You can't assume the bible is true just to support your point of view.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 I dont have to demonstate anything. as previously stated. Youre the one who will spend eternity in torment for sin. not me. you cant weasel out of it with words. Obey and be blessed, do not obey and be cursed. you choose curses , its on you and you alone.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ I choose to use my intellect to live the most moral and productive life I can. Unfortunately for Christianity, I can't reconcile faith and reason. I could just as easily propose the tenets of any other religion were true and say you're trying to weasel out of that. What you believe is your choice, but you can't convince me I'm doing something wrong just because it's different to what you do. This is, again, the problem of the Rundle Mall preachers.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 I call bullshit to you false dichotomy. ''intellect v faith'' plenty of more intelligent men than you ae christian. Its down rignt stupid and ''unscientific to dismiss something without thorough investigation' and Im not trying to convince you of anything. only God himself can do that. and only if he chooses to.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 youre obviously a perv. sucking on some filthy sin. Youve heard the words of WBC and you are convicted and trying to weasel out of it. good luck with that , the standards of God are like a plumbline- you cant mess with a plumbline. it always comes back to plumb. OBEY God and he will bless you , do not obey and he will curse you . end of story.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecc 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ You really don't seem to be understanding my point: you're using the bible to prove your standpoint, while your standpoint is dependent on the bible. Circular logic is the most viciously flawed of all fallacies: something cannot prove itself. You first need independent explanatory evidence to claim that what you are saying is true or at all authoritative. Demonstrate that, then I will have reason to believe you.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 I understand perfectly. You perverts say you want physical proof that you can see with your 5 senses that something outside of your 5 senses exists , thats circular logic. OBEY and be blessed ddo not obey and be cursed. the plumbline will never move in spite of your many words.
GODH8ZZ 1 week ago
@GODH8ZZ I think what you meant to imply is that I can't depend on senses without proof that they are accurate, but would need to use the senses to get proof at all. That argument falls because if all senses converge on a single answer then it can be understood that they independently verify each other. What I'm reading is that God exists outside of the senses, and so how can I distinguish what can't be detected from what simply isn't real? I'm glad to see you stopped the bible quoting btw :)
Powerman3772 1 week ago
@Powerman3772 and stop lying theu do so have the disease market cornered. and you could have forseen that by reading romans 1 too. Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. the recompense is aids stds etc.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ And you know this for a fact how?
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago