This is the best review I have seen on a CCW weapon. I'd be interested in knowing how noticeable it might be wearing just jeans and a t-shirt. Thank you for taking the time to do this!!!
Very informative on a revolver my 33 year old daughter and I are interested in. for home protection. l especially liked your explanation of the various shells you chose to use on CC.
BECAUSE THE MAGNUM JUDGE IS A BIT HEAVIER WHAT IS THE RECOIL LIKE VERSUS THE STANDARD MODEL? My daughter handled the 2 1/2 well with.410 Winchester Defender loads, but felt it could be the max limit for her to handle well.
Winchester makes a .410 defense load spefically for these pistols. The PDX1 .410 is devastating at short ranged. It fires three big ass disc shaped slugs followed by twelve shotgun pellets. They are idea for home defense at ranges less than 25 feet. That's plenty of space and you don't run the risk of killing your neighbor with a stray shot. I use an alternating load of PDX1 and Hornady Critical Defense .45 Colt.
I CCW this exact gun. I use PDX1 410 and 45 LC hollow points in combination. I am Military and have carried all types of 9mm, 40 cal, 45 autos in my life, but when I am out with the Wife in public, THIS is my gun of choice....the versatility and stop-ability of the loads are impressive. Accuracy is very good, I have heard bad reviews, but my gun IS very accurate for a 3" barrel. The solid feel of the gun is what changed my mind about Taurus revolvers. Try it before you pass "Judgement".....
Don't use .410 for self defense. There are much better options. If the Judge is the only gun your have, then at least make your primary ammo the .45LC. Hornady has some nice .45LC ballistic tips out. .410 is weak for self defense. Its better then carrying a knife, but I'd still go with the .45LC. The gun should be great for killing snakes, which is the primary reason I bought mine.
@jambog82 Mostly agreed, although, buck is pretty damned effective at close range. .410 slugs are usually ballistically similar to a .357 mag. Some of the hotter exotic loads like the Dupo are probably even more lethal. Why anyone would carry a Judge for concealed carry still does blow my mind. So many other wonderful and smaller options.
Do they carry the judge in 3 1/2 barrel because I got a 357 mag western marshall 6 inch its not so confortable hunter hoister. But if they carry the judge in 3 1/2 inch how much is it
So, you CCW a .45 Judge loaded with 410 slugs? Where the fuck do you live, man, Iran?
I mean, I'm 19, but I'm a weapon guy myself; I can't carry guns, so I carry knives, and I carry a 17 inch bowie, so I understand that the more power you have (if you know how to use it) can save your life, but... wow.
too bad no matter how much power you have it won't save your asshole the countless amounts of fisting and shower plowings its going to receive once you get arrested for carrying a 17 inch bowie.
The Judge as a CCW option scares the shit out of me. Why? Because it doesn't penetrate deeply enough to make me believe that the gun will reliably shoot through thick/winter clothing. Also, unless you're an inch away from the other person, the spread on the gun is outrageous. Buy a 9mm, load it with +P HPs, and you're fine.
There is a nylon holster that looks like a jock strap that fastens in the back with two gun pockets in the front that I picked up at a gun show. I can carry a Glock 34 long barrel
To a Stainless Taurus Judge all day under the front of my pants. Very comfortable. The only problem is when u have to shake the dew off your Lily.
so who wants to volunteer to be shot with this gun. 000 only has 7 1/2 in. (teasted and confirmed) of penetration. and getting hit four times at once with one pull of the trigger that like haveing almost a full mag of 380 dumped in you. OR. The PDX1 410′s three flying discs penetrate ten inches ballistic gel from 15 feet. The BBs penetrate six inches at the same distance. that means boys and girls LETHAL any volunteers for the pdx1?what about 12 bird shot from 15 feet away with a face mask?huh??
You do realize you still have to aim with buckshot? And how is it going to save your life over 9mm or 45? Both calibers are completely superior in wounding capability compared to the .410 buckshot that doesn't even meet FBI penetration standards.
Get some fucking training, only and idiot would expect a tool to make up for a lack of skill, there are a lot of classes/schools that teach real pistol fighting techniques.
i shot a 32 oz gatorade bottle with a 410 slug at close range with the judge and it went in but didnt exit..i went and got my 357 sig and shot another bottle of water and it went thru and thru..45 longcolt is best for defense carry i think...
Love the gun but why would u cc this gun ?? It's a good toy and camping gun but in a tight real life scuffle the 410 won't kill anyone unless u do a real close headshot and the 45 on a short barrel when stressed is hard to be accuarate IMO and I'm a good shot . Love the vid man just makin a comment u should carry a (drumroll please) a g27 awesome cc gun trust me !!! Keep postin bud!
Hey, I'm sorry if i come off sounding like an ass but why chamber a .410 slug instead of a .45 LC? It would seem to me that a .45 LC would have superior performance in comparison to the .410 slug.
It has completely superior performance, .410 is an inadequate round that has crappy wounding capabilities and doesn't even penetrate as far as a .380 does.
Get a 9,40 or 45 some good JHP ammo and some training and you'll be way farther ahead than anyone who carries a crappy judge.
My guess would be you're not too knowledgeable about firearms or proper concealed carry protocol if you're carrying a judge. I really hope you are a responsible person and not some kid who thinks the judge is just "so damn sickkkkk man" and thats why you carry it. Then again I could be wrong but thats just what it seems like. I hope you're properly trained with firearms and dont present a danger to people you are around. Hopefully you're smart enough to make the right choices in life.Goodluc
Boy,that would be the last thing I'd use for CCW, not because it's a judge, but because it weighs a ton. As far as it being effective, I think a 410 to the face would be a deterrent for an attacker :-)
I'm noticing people seem to have a problem understanding the concept that handguns are not designed to do everything. A pocket pistol isn't designed to perform duty roles just as a snub nose revolver isn't designed around hunting yet they expect the Judge is supposed to do everything.
It seems the hate for the Judge is like the hate for the .410; the .410 isn't a 12 gauge just as the Judge isn't a Glock yet in the process they miss the obvious fact that the Judge wasn't designed to be a Glock
worst POS i ever bought. glad i got rid of it. oyea 45lc and 410 are two of the most expensive rounds on the market. the only snake it will shoot is the little one in your pants.
Of course you should know that FMJ bullets would have the lead bullet completly encased in a copper jacket. your 45LC rounds are what is called a Lead Round Nose projectile or LRN round.
Not very likely it will be lethal damage, .410 is not acceptable in any way for self defense, it is much much weaker than 9mm, .40, and .45 and even those rounds often have problems killing. Consider this the .45 is much more powerful than .410 and it took a police officer over 40 rounds to kill ONE middle aged fat guy. Most of those rounds impacted vital areas and when he shot under a car it almost severed the guys foot yet he was able to continue firing on the police officer.
@l3tl3v ive dropped pheasants at 30 yds with a .410, if you chambered a 410 birdshot with a 45 long colt behind it you could make sure the first shot hits the target and it would give you a little time to get your aim spot on for the second shot, but yea id leave the 410 slugs out
Birdshot is not and will never be an effective round against anything bigger than birds.
If I need a gun in self defense then I want every round to be lethal as possible, especially since I never know if I'll get more than one shot in the first place.
.45 LC is not exactly a round with powerful recoil, it shouldn't take long to be proficient with it to make quick follow up shots at realistic self defense distances.
Search Todd Jarrett on youtube and try an IDPA competition.
@l3tl3v if you dont think so ill make ya a deal, you go stand at 40 yds and bend over, ill shoot you in the ass with a 410 with birdshot, i use a remington 870 with a top folding stock and the 18 in barrel for home defense, with either birdshot or buckshot, whatever is closer to the gun to grab
Thats a pretty lame argument, I don't want to be shot by a BB gun doesn't mean it is an effective round.
You can argue that .410 hurts to get shot by sure but .410 does not meet any penetration requirements to get to vital organs on an adult human, even .410 Buckshot or slugs falls well below that requirement. Add in a very small wound profile and there you have it, a shitty round thats weaker than 9mm ball ammunition in every single way.
But I have devised a better test, why don't you stand at 40 yards with your .410 and I'll bring my bedside gun, AR15 w/aimpoint and 60 rounds I keep with it and we'll see who wins.
Why would anyone handicap themselves with a round meant for birds when you can get guns that fire rounds that do have acceptable wound profiles and depths that also have high capacity and are easier to make follow up shots with.
I'll take my Glock .40 with 15 rounds in the gun and 2 mags over this.
@l3tl3v Who are you going to be defending yourself against at 40 yards? What recorded self defense incident ever took place even around that distance? If you engage someone at that distance, you'll more than likely end up in prison for murder because how can you justify your life was endanger by a robber at that distance? Do you think someone is going to go JFK on you?
Besides, the Judge wasn't designed for a long distance pinpoiint encounter but then again what shotgun is?
@l3tl3v So your counter-argument to snow refering to stopping power of the .410 is to basically speak of challenging him to a duel while boasting about your arsenal?
Yeah, you're right, I should've read that first because now I see the post that I responded to just shows how much of an arrogant smart-ass you are so I could've realized from reading more fully you would only be running your mouth with relative & subjective reasoning.
The "well I wouldn't want to get shot by it" argument is bullshit in the first place and since he was telling me about what he had I said what guns I have for SD.
I've already posted to this video numerous times the lack of power the .410 has and a short barrel only makes that worse.
.410 is not effective at all, and not practicing enough to be effective with your carry gun is irresponsible.
@IIMoses740II Excellent point my friend, and that is what every reviewer of the Judge is missing. This gun was design for the court room or close quarters situation where penetration is not desired so that rounds aren't hitting the innocent. It is an excellent trail gun for killing snakes or peppering a viscous animal.
@okieprepper Indeed. I'm not much of a revolver man myself but I am a guy for versatility & the Judge certainly fits the bill. With a good combination of birdshot & hot .45 loads, you've got yourself a solid trail & survival gun(from snake protection to short range varmint hunting[which makes it useful for yard work]); the lower flash & sound of the .410 allows for .410 defense loads & standard .45 to be adequate defense from two legged varmints also
@l3tl3v youre such a troll and its getting rather annoying, all im saying is the .410 will do enough damage to get someone to stop for a second, long enough to get good shot placement on the second shot, i would much rather have another gun for self defense yes, like my 870 or my 9mm baby eagle jericho, but this is an effective self defense weapon
@l3tl3v I would argue that your average CCW guy doesn't "train" at all, shoot allot sure, I shoot allot but I don't "train" Cops train allot and the average police shooting involves many shots fired,not many hits(usually). So if you're not swat or don't "train" the best you can do is shoot often, know your weapon and its limitations and stay out of trouble. I think by the way, a 410 to the face would really suck!
Departments with big budgets might be able to get their officers to train, but in a lot of places I've lived the average cop shoots only a couple hundred rounds a year.
Its easy for a civilian to "train", take combat pistol classes with a well qualified instructor every once in awhile and try things like IDPA and IPSC to keep your skills up.
And .410 to the face might suck but it wont suck as much as a .45 JHP to the face would.
@l3tl3v This is a true statement, my son in law is a cop, and what I do know from that is, that, a surprising percentage of cops shoot only enough to qualify. And depending on the department, qualifying isn't that tough. My personal view is that an above average shooter(meaning someone that shoots often) is a better shot than an average cop. And yes, a 45 to the face would suck more than a .410, although you might be able to blind the guy with bird shot :-)
I guess my problem is, if I have to use a gun I want to kill the other person not just hurt them.
Legally you're better off if you kill the attacker, it'd suck to defend yourself then get hit with a huge lawsuit from a guy you blinded with birdshot.
I never want to have to use a gun on another human, but if someone tries to hurt me, my family or friends I want the best tool possible to stop the attacker completely and as quickly as possible. Hopefully I'll have a rifle for that.
@l3tl3v I hear you as far as wounding and possible lawsuits, but most gunshots do not result in death. So it comes down to who's in the right, if someone attacks you, you have the right to self defense. If the attacker only gets wounded as a result of his threatening your life.His problem, but he better have threatened your life to the point you needed leathel force to stop him. Some states you don't even need a direct threat (castle doctrine,car jacking) But you WILL need a lawyer.
The majority of the time you wont even need to fire your carry gun even if someone tries to harm you, but if you're going to take the preventative measure of carrying why not carry a suitable firearm? If a group of gang bangers breaks into your house or tries to mug you, which is becoming more common, you're going to want the most ammo in the largest caliber you can shoot quickly. Gunfights are usually over in seconds and in those seconds people can/have empty entire 17 rounds mags.
I'm no expert at ballistics but even self defense loadings for the .410 especially in a 2-3 inch barrel do not meet the standards that real experts have for lethal wounding in humans. The judge is a nice revolver with great finish and works smoothly but I'd never trust it for more than dispatching small animals while camping. Quality semi-autos and revolvers in more effective calibers for humans can be had for the same price or less with night sights and a spare mag or two.
@l3tl3v I don't care who you are, if you get hit with a shotshell, especially one of the new shotshells designed in short barrel 410s, you will hurt... Seriously.
You do realize that shooting at someone no matter what caliber is legally considered deadly force?
And if you have a reason to actually shoot someone I wouldn't be wasting one of my few rounds in my slow to reload revolver on inadequate buckshot.
Try an actual pistol class where you have to move and rapidly engage targets, 6 rounds goes by in seconds and its not always easy to hit even close up.
Any gun means you meet the "have a gun requirement" is it adequate, fuck no.
There are multiple documented cases of people being shot multiple times with a .22 rifle not just a pistol and living.
Why would you carry a crappy caliber if you can get a .380 in a comparable size, which while not a great caliber, is many times better than a .22 ever could be.
@l3tl3v There are also multiple cases of people being shot with 45 and it not stopping them. Several cases of people being hit by a .22 and dying. The most common thing though is 3 shots total being fired. That's because the bad guy usually runs away the second you fire anything at them. In fact, just before Christmas, a guy with the same gun I own shot at and hit 1 of 2 robbers trying to rob his store. At least 1 robber was also armed. Both robbers ran away, 1 with a bullet in his shoulder.
@l3tl3v i dont know what your talking about if you hit anything in north america with a well placed 410 slug it will die those are good rounds for deer and black bear at close range and im positive it will kill an attacker as well 9 mm are crap rounds all together and if someone breaks into my house when its dark id rather have 5 buckshot rounds then 9 mms anyday
So you'd rather have 5 rounds of a caliber that is weaker than 9mm out of a pistol?
A .410 has all around WORSE ballistics than 9mm, fuck a modern 9mm JHP will expand to over .66 inches and penetrate over twice as far as a .410 slug, so it penetrates farther than a .410, you have higher capacity and you have expansion that is over half an inch.
So I can have 19 rounds of a superior performing caliber in a Glock 17 and much faster reloads, a Glock is cheaper anyways.
@l3tl3v If you have to fire more than twice you're probably going to lose that gun battle
1st shot PDX1 will group <2in at <10yds and 45JHP can easily group that at farther distances
The 000 buck rounds from federal tend to throw 1 ball way off and they other two pattern within 4 in <10yd, The judge is a bedside/vehicle- gun close range. i carry 9mm SR9 rest of time.
@l3tl3v well i did say 410 buckshot in a dark house also i made an archery target out of 2x12s full of cloths and 9 mm wouldnt even go thru the target but the 410s went thru just fine get out there and do some tests instead of just reading velocity charts off the internet
@l3tl3v I know I would love to have this weapon for self defense. Say someone comes at me with violent intentions. I would pepper his ass with the first three chambers. If he still wants to feel strong. I would plug him with the last two.
The biggest I would carry would either be a Glock 17, M&P9, FN P9, or a 1911, the smallest would be a M&P9c. This, eh, limited firepower. JHPs do enough. My opinion but to each his own.
hey zenanskig:)...LOVE ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS!!!:)<3:).... I WAS WONDERING MAYBE IF YOU COULD DO A REVIEW OR SHOWCASE THE "Dupo 7" for the .410 shell. i resently came accross those on the internet and love the idea of them in the up and coming "Raging Judge Magnum", so if you can please respand to me that would be MAGICAL!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH:)...ALSO...if it isnt asking to much...maybe if its possible for you to get a hold of a Judge, testing out the Dupo 7 for the .410?:)..THANK YOU SO MUCH:)!
@LiftedElephant hey thanks for letting me know about this i just looked the site for the ammo looks pretty good. i'll to see if i can find some to shoot it
oh hey the 45 colts' did not look like fmj. and you should use a hollow point if your going to carry the 45 lc and if you use moon clips you can use 45 acp but blah blah blah warning and warranty void and all that. i have shot it out of mine when i go but i just keep pdx1 and hornady leverrevolution 225 gr. when the judge is waiting for bad guys to shoot
taurus judge is the pistol that nobody needs... it isn't better than anything in w/e class it covers. There are better choices for CC, H.D, CQC, the judge is pointless.
I also have a 3" magnum Judge; If or when your friend gets those holsters right; i would like to get one. right now I carry mine in my back pack.... NICE VIDEO, VERY INFORMATIVE . THANK YOU FOR POSTING IT !!!
I have a 3" bbl, 3" cylinder stainless Judge. The 3-hole canted leather holster is custom made by SimplyRugged com carried rear hip. Defense loaded with one 7/8oz 39-BBs then 4 buckshot 5 x 0000 hard lead made by paraklestechnologies com. Alternate loads are .45 Buffalo Bore 200HP and flat 250gr "Heavy Loads,"not +p. Hogue grips top it off. With a long coat on it conceals buts awkward in cars. Police friend says beware liability. 100% love this versatile powerful gun.
hey dude if its a 3 inch barrel a 2 1/2 inch shell wont work man thats why they jam it aint the federal ammo its the length you have to get the right length for your gun.
The .45LC performs better balistically than a .410 slug, though, and has better peentration. My self-defense load would be 3 .410 000 buck rounds followed by 2 .45LC hollow points (sadly Hydra Shok doesn't make a .45LC round...). But, it's all moot as later in the year they're releasing a model that can also chamber the .454 Casull. I'd bet that one can fire the +P ammo pretty easily, as the chambers have to be MEGA resilient to handle Casull pressures.
damn i almost feel sorry for someone that tries to rob you but ive been robbed and honestly i would be unloading slugs in the next person to try it to mes face anyway how does it not fall out of your waistband though
I think the main thing people should take from your video is that this is the way NOT to make a video. You should really know what you're talking about before you make a video. You should do more research. And for Christ's sake, clean your firearm.
someone said there is no such thing as .45 long colt? that is what the round is commonly called, bc .45 acp stands for automatic COLT pistol, so back in the day to not get it confused, it was referred to long colt
you had a great review but there is a nother holster out there you might want to talk about it is made by blackhawk. it is a single retention holster that you can change the backs from a belt holster to a paddle holster I got mine for around 50 dollars.
Too big and way way to heavy for CCW. And 5 rds flat out sucks. 40oz unloaded is just stupid heavy. The spread from the 410 at 10yrd is just about that..10yrds. Colt45's are pricey and not accurate. My dad has one, shot it alot. Fun, got uses for shootn snakes or tackle box, maybe the bedstand? But not CCW, shop around my friend. I carry a G-19 but also a LCP Ruger .380 and Bersa 380 CC very nice, small,accurat (for pocket guns) more firepower/rds. Be safe
The judge is meant for close quarters and while this may be pushing the very limits of possible to conceal carry it is an exceptional home defense gun for your nightstand. I would own this over a shotgun in my home because it packs enough punch to eliminate an intruder and not put the lives of too many other people in danger that may be outside or on the other side of walls. Also, downrange is not at as high a risk as your average bullet when using shot or 000 buck.
Also, when using any long barreled rifle you run the higher risk of turning a corner and having an intruder grabbing the barrel and either being able to keep the muzzle away from pointing at him or disarm you. Remember, any weapon you have someone else can take. It's harder to grab a barrel of a revolver than a big shottie. They have specific models meant for close quarter concealed carry style in the Public Defender. For what it was made for there'ss not much better in up close fighting.
which is why you don't turn the corner with your gun extended. the only weapon i keep ready for home defense is a twelve gauge. last guy that broke in probably saw it my way.
i agree with your statement about ccw, but the judge, with the federal self defense handgun 410 shells, @ 7 yards has a spread of only about 2 inches, which is pretty much as accurate as u get with shotshell ammo, has not as much to do with the gun as it does the way federal designed the wad and fit 4 000 buck instead of 3 in there.
@iruleyouatguitar ...how well will it work? About as well as you can shoot. If you have can, it will be plenty. Federal premium Hydra-shok 90gr, 1000ft per sec / 250lb force ive been told? Not 100% sure. For what i do and where im at, 9mm is too bulky most of the time to carry. Printing is an issue. With LCP or P238 you can toss is in your jeans pocket or waist and nothing will show. and the first rule of a gun fight is to bring a gun. Home defense / travel = G23. Good hunting.
i don't know about your physical build, but i carry a 9mm religiously and have yet to have a problem with anyone noticing or having any kind of discomfort. maybe i've just gotten used to it.
1800fps out of the Judge? BS! You can barely get that out of most loads and a full size rifle barrel. I have seen velocity of around maybe 1200 though the judge+.410 slug and that is with a ~100gr slug. A 9mm has better ballistics in a much smaller package. Also, those dimples don't expand like hollow points. The are basically FMJ. If you want the most effectiveness our of that firearm, keep it loaded in .45
You do any fun stuff with it like blasting clays? How well does it work?
i had some regular 410 shotshells in there, 7 or 8 shot loads, and fired 5 rounds at about 10 yards at clays hand launched, and only hit 1 clay. with a shottie, they would have all been dust, but i guess w/ practice anyone could be good with it. but if a 1st time clay shooter was trying, no chance man, def. something that is a challange
This gun is impractical as a CCW in every way. People who carry large guns like this will carry them a few months and then stop, buy yourself a compact conceal weapon
I love my Judge. However I did have problems with it after shooting less than 100 rounds through it. The cylinder gear wore out so I had to send it back to the mfg. They fixed it at no charge of course and said they replaced two parts on it.
My little wife says it's her favorite gun. There's very little recoil (thanks to the grip design) with the 45 long colts.
Sadly for us, I just heard that the Judge is probably illegal in CA where we are moving to. Danged liberal fruits and nuts!
Rifled Slug out of muzzle at 1800 fps. Did you chrono that yourself? It sounds like the factory nominal fps based on a long barrel. .410 shells usually have slower burning powders for longer barrels. I'd really be surprised that you are actually pulling that much out of such a small barrel. You'd have to use diff powder and 444 marlin brass, one would think
i dont give two bits about this guys advice on weapons and ammo. his terminology is wrong at times, and if you continually use "i think"...YOU DONT KNOW!
i have mixed feelings about this firearm. i like that its universal with 45 long and 410 shells but my main concern is its masive size. it would make a great snake gun or a good door greeter self defense gun but i think she is too heavy and bulky to carry. a 410/45 derringer 2 shot might be easier to carry but man thats just a couple shots.
Well he *points up* seems to carry it just fine. I would not enjoy carrying it myself though, lol. I use a Kel-Tec P3AT. But hey, if he wants to carry a cannon around, he is more then welcome to do so.
dirty harry was a stupid movie. all hollywood. not practical to cary a big heavy gun. less capacity and you dont even know what its like to carry that til you do it. the looking cool factor doesnt make up for it. i'll stick with my Glock 22 .40 cal that weighs 25oz with 15 round capacity
I was in law enforcement when Dirty Harry came out. Back then almost NO officers carried semi-autos. I carried a S&W Model 19 with two speed loaders. That gave me a total of 18 shots. The Glock had not even been invented yet. Revolvers were main weapon back then. So we carried what we had and did the best we could with them.
Sure there is, the 19 is a K frame and the 29 is an L frame. The 29 is also a .44 mag. I was only pointing out that way back in when, revolvers were all we had. While some dept's allowed semi autos, the first mass use of a semi auto was the S&W Model 39, 9mm with a single stack mag. My 19 was custom & heavier than other 19's I had a 1/4" piece of solid brass fitted to the bottom of the grips. It changed the balance & worked well for me. It's in my photostream if you want to look.
SIR! You and I must meet at dawn upon the Field of Honor! Carry a weapon named after a snake. Never. Smith and Wesson Model 19 Combat Magnum, all the way!
It's sort of funny, in your last sentence. My father carried a Python and we had a running battle all the time. Thanks for bringing back a long forgotten but good memory! I wish you many years of good shooting.
oh and you dont even have any videos of your own. so shut up. at least i have videos out there rather than trying to knock people about their videos when you dont even have any. your lame
your retarded. act your age not your shoe size. your just some stupid punk trying to act like a big shot cause in real life your not even a squirt. i'm glad im not a waste of space time and air like you
This is the best review I have seen on a CCW weapon. I'd be interested in knowing how noticeable it might be wearing just jeans and a t-shirt. Thank you for taking the time to do this!!!
BoomerQ 3 weeks ago
Very informative on a revolver my 33 year old daughter and I are interested in. for home protection. l especially liked your explanation of the various shells you chose to use on CC.
BECAUSE THE MAGNUM JUDGE IS A BIT HEAVIER WHAT IS THE RECOIL LIKE VERSUS THE STANDARD MODEL? My daughter handled the 2 1/2 well with.410 Winchester Defender loads, but felt it could be the max limit for her to handle well.
We enjoyed your video, keep it up!
Don & Summer
mdsailmaster 3 weeks ago
Cough Cough thats Lead Ball
elibby071214 1 month ago
Search Dupo7 steel slug, watch the vids from Duplex and tell me that a 410 shell isn't lethal..
crosshairjunky 3 months ago
Winchester makes a .410 defense load spefically for these pistols. The PDX1 .410 is devastating at short ranged. It fires three big ass disc shaped slugs followed by twelve shotgun pellets. They are idea for home defense at ranges less than 25 feet. That's plenty of space and you don't run the risk of killing your neighbor with a stray shot. I use an alternating load of PDX1 and Hornady Critical Defense .45 Colt.
bloozepicker 3 months ago
Yeah ¥¥¥ can you put the 410's in the speed loader?
Only4humans33 5 months ago
can u stick the 410s in the speed loader? and do u think its worth getting the 3in magnum or stick to the 2 1/2 chamber? nice gun
mark16443 7 months ago
I CCW this exact gun. I use PDX1 410 and 45 LC hollow points in combination. I am Military and have carried all types of 9mm, 40 cal, 45 autos in my life, but when I am out with the Wife in public, THIS is my gun of choice....the versatility and stop-ability of the loads are impressive. Accuracy is very good, I have heard bad reviews, but my gun IS very accurate for a 3" barrel. The solid feel of the gun is what changed my mind about Taurus revolvers. Try it before you pass "Judgement".....
mrsbaringer 10 months ago
Don't use .410 for self defense. There are much better options. If the Judge is the only gun your have, then at least make your primary ammo the .45LC. Hornady has some nice .45LC ballistic tips out. .410 is weak for self defense. Its better then carrying a knife, but I'd still go with the .45LC. The gun should be great for killing snakes, which is the primary reason I bought mine.
jambog82 1 year ago
@jambog82 Mostly agreed, although, buck is pretty damned effective at close range. .410 slugs are usually ballistically similar to a .357 mag. Some of the hotter exotic loads like the Dupo are probably even more lethal. Why anyone would carry a Judge for concealed carry still does blow my mind. So many other wonderful and smaller options.
MrLooseSkrews 2 months ago in playlist CHL
Do they carry the judge in 3 1/2 barrel because I got a 357 mag western marshall 6 inch its not so confortable hunter hoister. But if they carry the judge in 3 1/2 inch how much is it
jeffreymatula 1 year ago
So, you CCW a .45 Judge loaded with 410 slugs? Where the fuck do you live, man, Iran?
I mean, I'm 19, but I'm a weapon guy myself; I can't carry guns, so I carry knives, and I carry a 17 inch bowie, so I understand that the more power you have (if you know how to use it) can save your life, but... wow.
Socioistic 1 year ago
@Socioistic
too bad no matter how much power you have it won't save your asshole the countless amounts of fisting and shower plowings its going to receive once you get arrested for carrying a 17 inch bowie.
dumbass.
iruleyouatguitar 1 year ago
@iruleyouatguitar
That's nice, even though it's not illegal in Georgia.
Socioistic 1 year ago
The Judge as a CCW option scares the shit out of me. Why? Because it doesn't penetrate deeply enough to make me believe that the gun will reliably shoot through thick/winter clothing. Also, unless you're an inch away from the other person, the spread on the gun is outrageous. Buy a 9mm, load it with +P HPs, and you're fine.
SunSunSuperFun 1 year ago
omg thats funny. what the name brand of the holster
williamkroth 1 year ago
There is a nylon holster that looks like a jock strap that fastens in the back with two gun pockets in the front that I picked up at a gun show. I can carry a Glock 34 long barrel
To a Stainless Taurus Judge all day under the front of my pants. Very comfortable. The only problem is when u have to shake the dew off your Lily.
famousr
famousr100 1 year ago
well its been 24 hours and no volunteers.
williamkroth 1 year ago
PDX1 solves this issue!
keithallenlaw 1 year ago
so who wants to volunteer to be shot with this gun. 000 only has 7 1/2 in. (teasted and confirmed) of penetration. and getting hit four times at once with one pull of the trigger that like haveing almost a full mag of 380 dumped in you. OR. The PDX1 410′s three flying discs penetrate ten inches ballistic gel from 15 feet. The BBs penetrate six inches at the same distance. that means boys and girls LETHAL any volunteers for the pdx1?what about 12 bird shot from 15 feet away with a face mask?huh??
williamkroth 1 year ago
@Eversandero
You do realize you still have to aim with buckshot? And how is it going to save your life over 9mm or 45? Both calibers are completely superior in wounding capability compared to the .410 buckshot that doesn't even meet FBI penetration standards.
Get some fucking training, only and idiot would expect a tool to make up for a lack of skill, there are a lot of classes/schools that teach real pistol fighting techniques.
You should be shooting as often as possible.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
i shot a 32 oz gatorade bottle with a 410 slug at close range with the judge and it went in but didnt exit..i went and got my 357 sig and shot another bottle of water and it went thru and thru..45 longcolt is best for defense carry i think...
lukebanditchip 1 year ago
Love the gun but why would u cc this gun ?? It's a good toy and camping gun but in a tight real life scuffle the 410 won't kill anyone unless u do a real close headshot and the 45 on a short barrel when stressed is hard to be accuarate IMO and I'm a good shot . Love the vid man just makin a comment u should carry a (drumroll please) a g27 awesome cc gun trust me !!! Keep postin bud!
Pnutt5100 1 year ago
isnt rifled slug in rifled barrel a nono
bloodseedrums 1 year ago
Hey, I'm sorry if i come off sounding like an ass but why chamber a .410 slug instead of a .45 LC? It would seem to me that a .45 LC would have superior performance in comparison to the .410 slug.
BubbaBossDiesel 1 year ago
@BubbaBossDiesel
It has completely superior performance, .410 is an inadequate round that has crappy wounding capabilities and doesn't even penetrate as far as a .380 does.
Get a 9,40 or 45 some good JHP ammo and some training and you'll be way farther ahead than anyone who carries a crappy judge.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
Get a .45ACP seriously...
tommysch 1 year ago
My guess would be you're not too knowledgeable about firearms or proper concealed carry protocol if you're carrying a judge. I really hope you are a responsible person and not some kid who thinks the judge is just "so damn sickkkkk man" and thats why you carry it. Then again I could be wrong but thats just what it seems like. I hope you're properly trained with firearms and dont present a danger to people you are around. Hopefully you're smart enough to make the right choices in life.Goodluc
TechnicaIlyInsane 1 year ago
@TechnicaIlyInsane Better look out, a lot of us fit that profile and we all carry Judges. LOL
taurusjudgement 1 year ago
If u dont mind my question:
What is your line of work,profession?
Thanks
musiluna 1 year ago
Boy,that would be the last thing I'd use for CCW, not because it's a judge, but because it weighs a ton. As far as it being effective, I think a 410 to the face would be a deterrent for an attacker :-)
grizz474 1 year ago
Is there a reason that you carry FMJ .45 instead of hollowpoint for your CCW reload? Also, would you say the judge is accurate with .45?
Makingnewnamesisdumb 1 year ago
I'm noticing people seem to have a problem understanding the concept that handguns are not designed to do everything. A pocket pistol isn't designed to perform duty roles just as a snub nose revolver isn't designed around hunting yet they expect the Judge is supposed to do everything.
It seems the hate for the Judge is like the hate for the .410; the .410 isn't a 12 gauge just as the Judge isn't a Glock yet in the process they miss the obvious fact that the Judge wasn't designed to be a Glock
IIMoses740II 1 year ago
@IIMoses740II
And yet .410 isn't even comparable when it comes to ballistics to a 38 Special or even a .380 ACP.
There are much better caliber choices for a revolver this size that are actually acceptable for self defense.
Like I already said, if you're going to carry a judge load it with .45LC or else you're just carrying around a large snake gun.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
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IIMoses740II 1 year ago
Good job Max Payne. At least you can throw that heavy piece of crap at them.
klever11 1 year ago
worst POS i ever bought. glad i got rid of it. oyea 45lc and 410 are two of the most expensive rounds on the market. the only snake it will shoot is the little one in your pants.
phishintube 1 year ago
@phishintube
I still think people should get a subcompact Glock over this POS, faster reloads and follow up shots.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
i was lookin for a lazer sight that mounts ontop insted of on the grip..... any ideas???
460faust 1 year ago
Of course you should know that FMJ bullets would have the lead bullet completly encased in a copper jacket. your 45LC rounds are what is called a Lead Round Nose projectile or LRN round.
Jubilee7782 1 year ago
Dude I'm sorry to tell you but .410 does NOT penetrate deep enough to meet FBI standards.
You'd be MUCH better off carrying the .45 long colt with modern QUALITY HP.
.410 Buckshot and slugs are NOT suitable for self defense, they are much to small. Even a 9mm round is better than a .410 slug.
.410 slug = about 92 gr while 9mm comes in 117gr and 147gr weights, 9mm also expands to be OVER .64 with good HP ammo.
You are much better off carrying .45 LC and saving the .410 for small animals.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v yeah I know the .410 will still do some damage out to 7 yards
zenanskig 1 year ago
@zenanskig
Not very likely it will be lethal damage, .410 is not acceptable in any way for self defense, it is much much weaker than 9mm, .40, and .45 and even those rounds often have problems killing. Consider this the .45 is much more powerful than .410 and it took a police officer over 40 rounds to kill ONE middle aged fat guy. Most of those rounds impacted vital areas and when he shot under a car it almost severed the guys foot yet he was able to continue firing on the police officer.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@zenanskig 9mm is still a horriable round..9mm has been a very misleading round ballistics suck good range tho i must say
503armyguard 1 year ago
@503armyguard
9mm Penetrates as far as .45 and .40 and with modern hollowpoints it also has very similar expansion and wound profiles.
Unless you are using FMJ there is no real difference in wounds between 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 acp...
They all penetrate 12-15" and expand to around .70", The calibers are only hundreths of an inch different.
There are a LOT of scientific research articles on this very subject, I'd suggest reading one instead of believing gunshow and gun rag bullshit.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v ive dropped pheasants at 30 yds with a .410, if you chambered a 410 birdshot with a 45 long colt behind it you could make sure the first shot hits the target and it would give you a little time to get your aim spot on for the second shot, but yea id leave the 410 slugs out
snowyphil65 1 year ago
@snowyphil65
Birdshot is not and will never be an effective round against anything bigger than birds.
If I need a gun in self defense then I want every round to be lethal as possible, especially since I never know if I'll get more than one shot in the first place.
.45 LC is not exactly a round with powerful recoil, it shouldn't take long to be proficient with it to make quick follow up shots at realistic self defense distances.
Search Todd Jarrett on youtube and try an IDPA competition.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v if you dont think so ill make ya a deal, you go stand at 40 yds and bend over, ill shoot you in the ass with a 410 with birdshot, i use a remington 870 with a top folding stock and the 18 in barrel for home defense, with either birdshot or buckshot, whatever is closer to the gun to grab
snowyphil65 1 year ago
@snowyphil65
Thats a pretty lame argument, I don't want to be shot by a BB gun doesn't mean it is an effective round.
You can argue that .410 hurts to get shot by sure but .410 does not meet any penetration requirements to get to vital organs on an adult human, even .410 Buckshot or slugs falls well below that requirement. Add in a very small wound profile and there you have it, a shitty round thats weaker than 9mm ball ammunition in every single way.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@snowyphil65
But I have devised a better test, why don't you stand at 40 yards with your .410 and I'll bring my bedside gun, AR15 w/aimpoint and 60 rounds I keep with it and we'll see who wins.
Why would anyone handicap themselves with a round meant for birds when you can get guns that fire rounds that do have acceptable wound profiles and depths that also have high capacity and are easier to make follow up shots with.
I'll take my Glock .40 with 15 rounds in the gun and 2 mags over this.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v Who are you going to be defending yourself against at 40 yards? What recorded self defense incident ever took place even around that distance? If you engage someone at that distance, you'll more than likely end up in prison for murder because how can you justify your life was endanger by a robber at that distance? Do you think someone is going to go JFK on you?
Besides, the Judge wasn't designed for a long distance pinpoiint encounter but then again what shotgun is?
IIMoses740II 1 year ago
@IIMoses740II
He was telling me to stand down range at that distance and get shot with a .410.
I wouldn't advocate shooting someone at a distance they are not a threat.
Read before you post.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v So your counter-argument to snow refering to stopping power of the .410 is to basically speak of challenging him to a duel while boasting about your arsenal?
Yeah, you're right, I should've read that first because now I see the post that I responded to just shows how much of an arrogant smart-ass you are so I could've realized from reading more fully you would only be running your mouth with relative & subjective reasoning.
Thanks for the advice.
IIMoses740II 1 year ago
@IIMoses740II
The "well I wouldn't want to get shot by it" argument is bullshit in the first place and since he was telling me about what he had I said what guns I have for SD.
I've already posted to this video numerous times the lack of power the .410 has and a short barrel only makes that worse.
.410 is not effective at all, and not practicing enough to be effective with your carry gun is irresponsible.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@IIMoses740II Excellent point my friend, and that is what every reviewer of the Judge is missing. This gun was design for the court room or close quarters situation where penetration is not desired so that rounds aren't hitting the innocent. It is an excellent trail gun for killing snakes or peppering a viscous animal.
okieprepper 1 year ago
@okieprepper Indeed. I'm not much of a revolver man myself but I am a guy for versatility & the Judge certainly fits the bill. With a good combination of birdshot & hot .45 loads, you've got yourself a solid trail & survival gun(from snake protection to short range varmint hunting[which makes it useful for yard work]); the lower flash & sound of the .410 allows for .410 defense loads & standard .45 to be adequate defense from two legged varmints also
BTW: This is from a Glock owner, haters :P
IIMoses740II 1 year ago
@l3tl3v youre such a troll and its getting rather annoying, all im saying is the .410 will do enough damage to get someone to stop for a second, long enough to get good shot placement on the second shot, i would much rather have another gun for self defense yes, like my 870 or my 9mm baby eagle jericho, but this is an effective self defense weapon
snowyphil65 1 year ago
@snowyphil65
How am I trolling? Making up for training deficiencies by using a crappy, inaccurate, weak round is not a good plan.
Every shot in a self defense situation should be well aimed since every round is a liability.
If you cannot draw your pistol and make a good first shot then you need to either practice more or you're a liability to society.
.410 is not an effective round at all, it is a complete joke for self defense and does not come close to meeting FBI ballistics minimums
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v I would argue that your average CCW guy doesn't "train" at all, shoot allot sure, I shoot allot but I don't "train" Cops train allot and the average police shooting involves many shots fired,not many hits(usually). So if you're not swat or don't "train" the best you can do is shoot often, know your weapon and its limitations and stay out of trouble. I think by the way, a 410 to the face would really suck!
grizz474 1 year ago
@grizz474
Departments with big budgets might be able to get their officers to train, but in a lot of places I've lived the average cop shoots only a couple hundred rounds a year.
Its easy for a civilian to "train", take combat pistol classes with a well qualified instructor every once in awhile and try things like IDPA and IPSC to keep your skills up.
And .410 to the face might suck but it wont suck as much as a .45 JHP to the face would.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v This is a true statement, my son in law is a cop, and what I do know from that is, that, a surprising percentage of cops shoot only enough to qualify. And depending on the department, qualifying isn't that tough. My personal view is that an above average shooter(meaning someone that shoots often) is a better shot than an average cop. And yes, a 45 to the face would suck more than a .410, although you might be able to blind the guy with bird shot :-)
grizz474 1 year ago
@grizz474
I guess my problem is, if I have to use a gun I want to kill the other person not just hurt them.
Legally you're better off if you kill the attacker, it'd suck to defend yourself then get hit with a huge lawsuit from a guy you blinded with birdshot.
I never want to have to use a gun on another human, but if someone tries to hurt me, my family or friends I want the best tool possible to stop the attacker completely and as quickly as possible. Hopefully I'll have a rifle for that.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v I hear you as far as wounding and possible lawsuits, but most gunshots do not result in death. So it comes down to who's in the right, if someone attacks you, you have the right to self defense. If the attacker only gets wounded as a result of his threatening your life.His problem, but he better have threatened your life to the point you needed leathel force to stop him. Some states you don't even need a direct threat (castle doctrine,car jacking) But you WILL need a lawyer.
grizz474 1 year ago
@grizz474
The majority of the time you wont even need to fire your carry gun even if someone tries to harm you, but if you're going to take the preventative measure of carrying why not carry a suitable firearm? If a group of gang bangers breaks into your house or tries to mug you, which is becoming more common, you're going to want the most ammo in the largest caliber you can shoot quickly. Gunfights are usually over in seconds and in those seconds people can/have empty entire 17 rounds mags.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v What do you think of the tripple O buck 410 magnum round? Is it worth it?
heatherandpaul2 1 year ago
@heatherandpaul2
I'm no expert at ballistics but even self defense loadings for the .410 especially in a 2-3 inch barrel do not meet the standards that real experts have for lethal wounding in humans. The judge is a nice revolver with great finish and works smoothly but I'd never trust it for more than dispatching small animals while camping. Quality semi-autos and revolvers in more effective calibers for humans can be had for the same price or less with night sights and a spare mag or two.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v I don't care who you are, if you get hit with a shotshell, especially one of the new shotshells designed in short barrel 410s, you will hurt... Seriously.
xdkwallen742 1 year ago
@l3tl3v A first shot with buckshot followed with four 45 Lc cartridges would be a good choice. First shot not so lethal, kind of warning...
newhuskytwenty 1 year ago
@newhuskytwenty
You do realize that shooting at someone no matter what caliber is legally considered deadly force?
And if you have a reason to actually shoot someone I wouldn't be wasting one of my few rounds in my slow to reload revolver on inadequate buckshot.
Try an actual pistol class where you have to move and rapidly engage targets, 6 rounds goes by in seconds and its not always easy to hit even close up.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v "Dude I'm sorry to tell you but .410 does NOT penetrate deep enough to meet FBI standards."
I guess I'm screwed then because I carry a .22. Any gun is adequate for self defense.
jboritzki 1 year ago
@jboritzki
Any gun means you meet the "have a gun requirement" is it adequate, fuck no.
There are multiple documented cases of people being shot multiple times with a .22 rifle not just a pistol and living.
Why would you carry a crappy caliber if you can get a .380 in a comparable size, which while not a great caliber, is many times better than a .22 ever could be.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v There are also multiple cases of people being shot with 45 and it not stopping them. Several cases of people being hit by a .22 and dying. The most common thing though is 3 shots total being fired. That's because the bad guy usually runs away the second you fire anything at them. In fact, just before Christmas, a guy with the same gun I own shot at and hit 1 of 2 robbers trying to rob his store. At least 1 robber was also armed. Both robbers ran away, 1 with a bullet in his shoulder.
jboritzki 1 year ago
@jboritzki Well seeing as most defensive gun uses do not involve the gun being fired, a .22 will usually work just as well as a .45.
fidgetingfinch 1 year ago
@fidgetingfinch I couldn't agree more.
jboritzki 1 year ago
@l3tl3v i dont know what your talking about if you hit anything in north america with a well placed 410 slug it will die those are good rounds for deer and black bear at close range and im positive it will kill an attacker as well 9 mm are crap rounds all together and if someone breaks into my house when its dark id rather have 5 buckshot rounds then 9 mms anyday
piffking420 1 year ago
@piffking420
So you'd rather have 5 rounds of a caliber that is weaker than 9mm out of a pistol?
A .410 has all around WORSE ballistics than 9mm, fuck a modern 9mm JHP will expand to over .66 inches and penetrate over twice as far as a .410 slug, so it penetrates farther than a .410, you have higher capacity and you have expansion that is over half an inch.
So I can have 19 rounds of a superior performing caliber in a Glock 17 and much faster reloads, a Glock is cheaper anyways.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
@l3tl3v If you have to fire more than twice you're probably going to lose that gun battle
1st shot PDX1 will group <2in at <10yds and 45JHP can easily group that at farther distances
The 000 buck rounds from federal tend to throw 1 ball way off and they other two pattern within 4 in <10yd, The judge is a bedside/vehicle- gun close range. i carry 9mm SR9 rest of time.
basod2002 1 year ago
@l3tl3v well i did say 410 buckshot in a dark house also i made an archery target out of 2x12s full of cloths and 9 mm wouldnt even go thru the target but the 410s went thru just fine get out there and do some tests instead of just reading velocity charts off the internet
piffking420 1 year ago
@l3tl3v I know I would love to have this weapon for self defense. Say someone comes at me with violent intentions. I would pepper his ass with the first three chambers. If he still wants to feel strong. I would plug him with the last two.
5B1O3Y 1 year ago
I have made holsters for over 15 years now out of kydex and abs.made one for my judge that carries my speed loader and 10 rds of 410 concealed.
jims72 1 year ago
Sweet stitching on that holster. Did your friend make it with his eyes closed?
SeamusCallan1 1 year ago
The biggest I would carry would either be a Glock 17, M&P9, FN P9, or a 1911, the smallest would be a M&P9c. This, eh, limited firepower. JHPs do enough. My opinion but to each his own.
RyanR3volution 1 year ago
cool video what did u pay for yours?
brianellis73 1 year ago
@brianellis73 $550
zenanskig 1 year ago
hey zenanskig:)...LOVE ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS!!!:)<3:).... I WAS WONDERING MAYBE IF YOU COULD DO A REVIEW OR SHOWCASE THE "Dupo 7" for the .410 shell. i resently came accross those on the internet and love the idea of them in the up and coming "Raging Judge Magnum", so if you can please respand to me that would be MAGICAL!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH:)...ALSO...if it isnt asking to much...maybe if its possible for you to get a hold of a Judge, testing out the Dupo 7 for the .410?:)..THANK YOU SO MUCH:)!
LiftedElephant 1 year ago
@LiftedElephant hey thanks for letting me know about this i just looked the site for the ammo looks pretty good. i'll to see if i can find some to shoot it
zenanskig 1 year ago
@zenanskig
oh hey the 45 colts' did not look like fmj. and you should use a hollow point if your going to carry the 45 lc and if you use moon clips you can use 45 acp but blah blah blah warning and warranty void and all that. i have shot it out of mine when i go but i just keep pdx1 and hornady leverrevolution 225 gr. when the judge is waiting for bad guys to shoot
williamkroth 1 year ago
@fatkrone thanks for pointing that out
zenanskig 1 year ago
Such a big gun, do you have problems with bears or something?.
knowthetruth1492 1 year ago
@knowthetruth1492
The bear would take this tiny ass gun and shove it up your ass since .410 is a weak round that wouldn't stop anything besides a stray dog.
l3tl3v 1 year ago
great gun great video!
Serrgio45acp 1 year ago
A SHOTGUN!!!... wait a minute...
HappyMasterChief 1 year ago
taurus judge is the pistol that nobody needs... it isn't better than anything in w/e class it covers. There are better choices for CC, H.D, CQC, the judge is pointless.
gimi a dedicated pistol or shotgun, not both.
lexmark136 1 year ago
I also have a 3" magnum Judge; If or when your friend gets those holsters right; i would like to get one. right now I carry mine in my back pack.... NICE VIDEO, VERY INFORMATIVE . THANK YOU FOR POSTING IT !!!
TheJoeCool1964 1 year ago
those are lead nose.....not fmj
wotterful 1 year ago
I have a 3" bbl, 3" cylinder stainless Judge. The 3-hole canted leather holster is custom made by SimplyRugged com carried rear hip. Defense loaded with one 7/8oz 39-BBs then 4 buckshot 5 x 0000 hard lead made by paraklestechnologies com. Alternate loads are .45 Buffalo Bore 200HP and flat 250gr "Heavy Loads,"not +p. Hogue grips top it off. With a long coat on it conceals buts awkward in cars. Police friend says beware liability. 100% love this versatile powerful gun.
1236bigcat 1 year ago
what does the other side of the holster look like?
GlenGorgeous2 1 year ago
also winchester AA number 8 shot is not a great ammunition its spread is way to fast i suggest number 4 or just triple buck
HOPPINBOB88 1 year ago
thanks for the info... it helped me out alot .... im thinking of buying one
techk1 1 year ago
Excellent video if you're seriously considering the 45-410 revolver. It's about the ammo and concealment.
cval1972 1 year ago
You should trade it in for the public defender, its much better for carry.
Letsmakeasamich 1 year ago
hey dude if its a 3 inch barrel a 2 1/2 inch shell wont work man thats why they jam it aint the federal ammo its the length you have to get the right length for your gun.
carrotsnot95 1 year ago
those .45 lc aren't FMJ's there solid led tips or something like that, basically it expands better then an FMJ, but not as much as a hallow point
therealdestructicus 1 year ago
@TheJomogogo
not sure why people have thumbs downed your comment. must be the other morons that are on youtube.
iruleyouatguitar 2 years ago
TREE INCH
Zombie4416 2 years ago
those 45long colt rounds are most deff not FMJ there lead get your education on rounds correct
goodgod09 2 years ago
The .45LC performs better balistically than a .410 slug, though, and has better peentration. My self-defense load would be 3 .410 000 buck rounds followed by 2 .45LC hollow points (sadly Hydra Shok doesn't make a .45LC round...). But, it's all moot as later in the year they're releasing a model that can also chamber the .454 Casull. I'd bet that one can fire the +P ammo pretty easily, as the chambers have to be MEGA resilient to handle Casull pressures.
Dorelaxen 2 years ago
Well personally, I'd reserve this gun for my nightstand when I hear strange noises. Otherwise, I'd never leave home without my XD-9!
dexer78 2 years ago
Lots Of Laughs-----Anyone with an asshole for an eye can see those are lead bullets not fmj. Even so this is better than most of the Judge videos.
woodenwatch 2 years ago
that thing is as big as a desert eagle, why on earth would you want to carry it?
lexmark136 2 years ago
no its not. its identical to a snub noes, only the cylinder is almost twice as long. no where near as big as a .50 cal.
ijc48 2 years ago
federal ammo sucks
Beamos12 2 years ago
damn i almost feel sorry for someone that tries to rob you but ive been robbed and honestly i would be unloading slugs in the next person to try it to mes face anyway how does it not fall out of your waistband though
beastblood980 2 years ago 2
I think the main thing people should take from your video is that this is the way NOT to make a video. You should really know what you're talking about before you make a video. You should do more research. And for Christ's sake, clean your firearm.
TechNinja 2 years ago
@TechNinja
agreed.
iruleyouatguitar 2 years ago
You CC a Judge Magnum? If you can honestly CC that you could probably CC a police officer.
Asmo6 2 years ago 3
@Asmo6
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
iruleyouatguitar 2 years ago
@Asmo6 lol. I have cop i carry cc too
zenanskig 1 year ago
the gun is dirty why
mrclarkdavis 2 years ago 2
someone said there is no such thing as .45 long colt? that is what the round is commonly called, bc .45 acp stands for automatic COLT pistol, so back in the day to not get it confused, it was referred to long colt
platinumwearer20 2 years ago
@platinumwearer20 I always thought "acp" stood for Action Combat Pistol?
NinjaWarriorDude 2 years ago
nope, google it, wikipedia it, it can be interpreted as colt action pistol, even though its acp, but its the auto colt pistol.
platinumwearer20 2 years ago
you had a great review but there is a nother holster out there you might want to talk about it is made by blackhawk. it is a single retention holster that you can change the backs from a belt holster to a paddle holster I got mine for around 50 dollars.
clw180 2 years ago 2
Keep it up, you guys. You sound like idiots.
"You like CATS? You're a FAG!"
"You like DOGS? You suck dicks!"
"You like Glocks? Pussy!"
What a bunch of dorks.
meserostalking 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Lol! Its true, though.
BenB8290 2 years ago
Too big and way way to heavy for CCW. And 5 rds flat out sucks. 40oz unloaded is just stupid heavy. The spread from the 410 at 10yrd is just about that..10yrds. Colt45's are pricey and not accurate. My dad has one, shot it alot. Fun, got uses for shootn snakes or tackle box, maybe the bedstand? But not CCW, shop around my friend. I carry a G-19 but also a LCP Ruger .380 and Bersa 380 CC very nice, small,accurat (for pocket guns) more firepower/rds. Be safe
GL0CK19onboard 2 years ago
The judge is meant for close quarters and while this may be pushing the very limits of possible to conceal carry it is an exceptional home defense gun for your nightstand. I would own this over a shotgun in my home because it packs enough punch to eliminate an intruder and not put the lives of too many other people in danger that may be outside or on the other side of walls. Also, downrange is not at as high a risk as your average bullet when using shot or 000 buck.
routsubasa 2 years ago 2
Also, when using any long barreled rifle you run the higher risk of turning a corner and having an intruder grabbing the barrel and either being able to keep the muzzle away from pointing at him or disarm you. Remember, any weapon you have someone else can take. It's harder to grab a barrel of a revolver than a big shottie. They have specific models meant for close quarter concealed carry style in the Public Defender. For what it was made for there'ss not much better in up close fighting.
routsubasa 2 years ago
@routsubasa
which is why you don't turn the corner with your gun extended. the only weapon i keep ready for home defense is a twelve gauge. last guy that broke in probably saw it my way.
iruleyouatguitar 2 years ago
i agree with your statement about ccw, but the judge, with the federal self defense handgun 410 shells, @ 7 yards has a spread of only about 2 inches, which is pretty much as accurate as u get with shotshell ammo, has not as much to do with the gun as it does the way federal designed the wad and fit 4 000 buck instead of 3 in there.
platinumwearer20 2 years ago
@GL0CK19onboard
.380 is definitely underpowered for self defense purposes. yeah, it'll work. but how well?
I carry a Sig P228. only 9mm i'll ever want or need.
iruleyouatguitar 2 years ago
@iruleyouatguitar ...how well will it work? About as well as you can shoot. If you have can, it will be plenty. Federal premium Hydra-shok 90gr, 1000ft per sec / 250lb force ive been told? Not 100% sure. For what i do and where im at, 9mm is too bulky most of the time to carry. Printing is an issue. With LCP or P238 you can toss is in your jeans pocket or waist and nothing will show. and the first rule of a gun fight is to bring a gun. Home defense / travel = G23. Good hunting.
GL0CK19onboard 2 years ago
@GL0CK19onboard
i don't know about your physical build, but i carry a 9mm religiously and have yet to have a problem with anyone noticing or having any kind of discomfort. maybe i've just gotten used to it.
iruleyouatguitar 1 year ago
1800fps out of the Judge? BS! You can barely get that out of most loads and a full size rifle barrel. I have seen velocity of around maybe 1200 though the judge+.410 slug and that is with a ~100gr slug. A 9mm has better ballistics in a much smaller package. Also, those dimples don't expand like hollow points. The are basically FMJ. If you want the most effectiveness our of that firearm, keep it loaded in .45
You do any fun stuff with it like blasting clays? How well does it work?
gunut4FMJ 2 years ago
i had some regular 410 shotshells in there, 7 or 8 shot loads, and fired 5 rounds at about 10 yards at clays hand launched, and only hit 1 clay. with a shottie, they would have all been dust, but i guess w/ practice anyone could be good with it. but if a 1st time clay shooter was trying, no chance man, def. something that is a challange
platinumwearer20 2 years ago
@platinumwearer20
The gun is intentionally designed to have an insanely fast shot spread, greatly contributing to your inability to hit the clays form 10 yards.
iruleyouatguitar 2 years ago
y dont they make a 3 1/2 410 shell like a 12 gauge..that would be along cylinder..lol
CatfishMan43 2 years ago
lol. yeah that would be nice...but thats too long !
zenanskig 2 years ago
Nice gun, I was thinking about adding this to my collection.
By the way, I hear you have a slight accent, what is your background? I'm guessing Indian, Trinidadian or Guyanese. I'm of Trinidadian descent.
JayJayNYC2DC 2 years ago
@zenanskig And amazing uncontrollable. xD
Sochill247 1 year ago
This gun is impractical as a CCW in every way. People who carry large guns like this will carry them a few months and then stop, buy yourself a compact conceal weapon
richiestang78 2 years ago
I love my Judge. However I did have problems with it after shooting less than 100 rounds through it. The cylinder gear wore out so I had to send it back to the mfg. They fixed it at no charge of course and said they replaced two parts on it.
My little wife says it's her favorite gun. There's very little recoil (thanks to the grip design) with the 45 long colts.
Sadly for us, I just heard that the Judge is probably illegal in CA where we are moving to. Danged liberal fruits and nuts!
kmac1959 2 years ago 2
.45 "long colts" don't exist.
Only the .45 Colt and the .45 ACP and any wildcats therein.
Tuxster3 2 years ago
@Tuxster3
"long colt" is just a way of differentiating between the two. Though, technically, you're correct.
iruleyouatguitar 2 years ago
Rifled Slug out of muzzle at 1800 fps. Did you chrono that yourself? It sounds like the factory nominal fps based on a long barrel. .410 shells usually have slower burning powders for longer barrels. I'd really be surprised that you are actually pulling that much out of such a small barrel. You'd have to use diff powder and 444 marlin brass, one would think
Photon123 2 years ago
Nice rig
BrainFukkler 2 years ago
tree inch? lol, you mean THREE
vinnie700 2 years ago
i dont give two bits about this guys advice on weapons and ammo. his terminology is wrong at times, and if you continually use "i think"...YOU DONT KNOW!
woodydarland 2 years ago 2
you got it in black
gypshasballs22 2 years ago
i have mixed feelings about this firearm. i like that its universal with 45 long and 410 shells but my main concern is its masive size. it would make a great snake gun or a good door greeter self defense gun but i think she is too heavy and bulky to carry. a 410/45 derringer 2 shot might be easier to carry but man thats just a couple shots.
berryjs140 2 years ago
Well he *points up* seems to carry it just fine. I would not enjoy carrying it myself though, lol. I use a Kel-Tec P3AT. But hey, if he wants to carry a cannon around, he is more then welcome to do so.
Jesses001 2 years ago
idk, but you have to admit its a pretty cool concept.
cartoonbloodshed 2 years ago
I love the way big, strapping he-men whine about carrying big guns.
LOL!
Fuckin' cry-babies!
If it was good enough for Dirty Harry....
Tuxster3 2 years ago
dirty harry was a stupid movie. all hollywood. not practical to cary a big heavy gun. less capacity and you dont even know what its like to carry that til you do it. the looking cool factor doesnt make up for it. i'll stick with my Glock 22 .40 cal that weighs 25oz with 15 round capacity
berryjs140 2 years ago
I was in law enforcement when Dirty Harry came out. Back then almost NO officers carried semi-autos. I carried a S&W Model 19 with two speed loaders. That gave me a total of 18 shots. The Glock had not even been invented yet. Revolvers were main weapon back then. So we carried what we had and did the best we could with them.
rickd248 2 years ago 5
I think there is a little difference in weight between the S&W model 19 and the model 29 :D
gunut4FMJ 2 years ago
Sure there is, the 19 is a K frame and the 29 is an L frame. The 29 is also a .44 mag. I was only pointing out that way back in when, revolvers were all we had. While some dept's allowed semi autos, the first mass use of a semi auto was the S&W Model 39, 9mm with a single stack mag. My 19 was custom & heavier than other 19's I had a 1/4" piece of solid brass fitted to the bottom of the grips. It changed the balance & worked well for me. It's in my photostream if you want to look.
rickd248 2 years ago
@rickd248
THANK YOU, jesus fucking christ.
Of course dirty harry was all hollywood, it was a movie. they had to make it entertaining to watch.
Colt Python all the way.
iruleyouatguitar 2 years ago
@iruleyouatguitar
SIR! You and I must meet at dawn upon the Field of Honor! Carry a weapon named after a snake. Never. Smith and Wesson Model 19 Combat Magnum, all the way!
It's sort of funny, in your last sentence. My father carried a Python and we had a running battle all the time. Thanks for bringing back a long forgotten but good memory! I wish you many years of good shooting.
rickd248 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
No more "stupid" than your stupid videos.
Again, we're talking fuckin' cry-babies!
Oh, and by the way, Glocks are for POSERS!
Hahaha!
Tuxster3 2 years ago
your retarded. glocks are the best. seems like your the only one crying.
berryjs140 2 years ago
Over poser-ass Glocks?!
Hahahahaha!
By the way, learn to spell.
Tuxster3 2 years ago
oh and you dont even have any videos of your own. so shut up. at least i have videos out there rather than trying to knock people about their videos when you dont even have any. your lame
berryjs140 2 years ago
Yeah, and your momma wears combat boots!
Hahahaha!
I also don't have an STD -- but I don't "knock" people that do....
Tuxster3 2 years ago
your retarded. act your age not your shoe size. your just some stupid punk trying to act like a big shot cause in real life your not even a squirt. i'm glad im not a waste of space time and air like you
berryjs140 2 years ago
Hey dumb ass - why are glock owners posers? Whats wrong with a high quality dependable firearm. Stick to your AirSoft toys.
GL0CK19onboard 2 years ago