The superiority of the Luftwaffe is beyond controversy. Go google "list of world war 2 flying aces", look the Wikipedia and show some humbleness. The top 3 german aces shot down nearly 1000 enemies. Under the top 100 ww2 flying aces there is not a single non-german pilot. This is no propaganda it is backed up by allied intelligence.
@Dercommandingofficer Yes, you're right it's all terrible. Although bad things were done on all sides I think the Nazis excelled in war crimes as history depicts, and the Luftwaffe made a habit of shooting up pilots swinging in parachutes and straffing lines of civilians (women, children and the old) fleeing the front lines etc.
If Germany would ally with Poland and help militarize my country they would safe 100,000 soldiers, aircraft and tanks and especialy a lot of bombs. Poland was able to organize army counted in milions so Soviet Union would probably fall upon them and Britain would be an easy prey caused by a lot more Axis armies focused on the west front.
@DB742 yeah it did i wonder what the hell all those big chunks were coming from it had to been something falling out the nose part i just hope it wasn't airmen
no one with any credibility believes Poland started the war. It's just ridiculous. Nazi Germany and the USSR made a pact to divide Poland between them, which they did, very effectively, by invading with all the brutality they could muster. The Nazis claimed there had been border incursions by Polish forces, but these were a set up, they took concentration camps prisoners, executed them and left them in Polish uniforms just inside the German border. Mcplkelly has been seriously misled.
@DEUTSCHESHITTER AND HITLER DIDNT MURDER JEWS EITHER? YOU ARE A CUNT BUT WORSE THAN THAT YOU ARE A GERMAN CUNT YOU LOST 2 WORLD WARS COS YOU ARE STUPID CUNTS. STICK TO MAKING CARS AND BUSES.
If you watch a 1:46 real slow you can see that thats the bailing out pilot almost getting hit, thats gotta be the attaking pilots worst nightmare to hit another pilot, even though an enemy they had alot of respect for each other.
Yes. The americans would loiter around airfields they knew the 262s operated from.
The 262s were vulnerable on take-off and landing where they would be jumped by allied fighters.
They were almost invulnerable at speed at altitude but not low and slow
They took a while to build up to high speed and could not have sudden throttle changes without risk of flame-out of the engines. The germans had FW190s fly cover for then to allow safe takeoff and landing but that was not always possible
The Nazis were out fought by the allies - more importantly, though, they were also out thought as well. The downfall of all totalitarian regimes is the intolerance of all opposing thought. Only when there is freedom of speech, i.e."thinking in the open" - can all ideas - good and bad, be considered, accepted or rejected.
it's still sad to think my countrymen killed other young men who didnt want to go to war or do war crimes god bless UK and her allies and GERMANY and its allies
Hi Maciek76PL (or anyone else, please), what is this verson of Step Up by Drowning Pool called? Is it commercially available and if so, where? Thanks in anticipation.
@IIAndersII show some respect that person DIED. He died probably died over enemy territory, for his country, for the freedom of his people and others. To be disrespected by you.
It must be realised,right at the outset,that every allied participant in this war was a HERO!Even the cooks and bottlewashers,batmen and clerks back in the US or GB!
@jlipsen Germans were actually very well trained and very well armed. The FW190D was regarded as one of the best aircraft to fly in WWII and if the Ta-152 and Me262 had come into service sooner then we'd have been in real trouble. Their leadership is what let them down and also a few basic mistakes especially regarding rotation of aircrew.
The only reason the germans did not set foot in england proper in 1940 was due to a stretch of water known as the channel, no amount of postering by churchill, or the bravery of the few would have been able to stop the germans without the channel.
@volkswin Also the fact that Hitler in fact wanted the UK as a partner. He never wanted to go to war against the UK and even thought our empire was the best in the world.
@volkswin Really I distinctly remember the presence of the Royal Navy and the German Air force failure to capture air superiority from the British Royal Air Force as being a distinct reason the Germans could not cross a certain body of water.
@Mcplkelly Of course you are right the failure of the germans to achieve air superiority was crucial but you missing the point of the post, that is had we not had the channel to fall back behind the luftwaffe would'nt have needed to wrest air superioty from the RAF in the first place and would have swept into the UK just as they did France no matter how many divisions we had at the time, due to superiority of german arms at that time
this does not diminish however the achievements of the few.
If there had been no channel chances are Napoleon would have crushed England back during the Napoleonic wars and there never would have been World Wars as we know them because Europe would have been under French domination.
I understand what you mean, just frankly I dislike arguments that involve removing geographic barriers. It is like saying the US would have rolled over the Germans in Normandy had the bocage not been present, problem was it was present.
Killing those poor young pilots in the 262's. Doesn't matter how good your plane is, its experience and training/doctrine that supersede all. The early jets sucked at low speeds and without sufficient airspeed and thrust the 262 would drop like a rock.
You are telling me that German Soldiers that were butchering their neighbors on their own homes and land were just doped by their bosses into that carnage? I though Germans were smarter than believing they could control all Europe, The Britts, All the Russians and on top the Americans that will be called, like in WW1. Did they say yes to The Rich Men of The Reich that just wanted to super profit from their butchering? THEY DESERVED EVERY BULLET THEY GOT.
@mrceebees14 That... is because we rotated our pilots out of theater after they became 'heros', whereas the Luftwaffe had no choice but to keep their aviators in combat year after year after year. Further... for every 100+ Ace, 100 Luftwaffe fighter pilots died in combat. For every 200+ fighter Ace, 200 Luftwaffe fighter pilot died in combat. etc.
Additionally the scoring system was different for German pilots when reporting a kill, and perhaps even more important Allied fighter pilots were not always able to confirm their kills. Many a US, Canadian and British pilots bemoaned their inability to confirm kills they achieved ergo did not receive credit due ESPECIALLY in the Pacific Theater where kills could be over huge expanses of water with no solid land for tens of miles (if not hundreds)..
@MrGunnerRetired The Germans rotated their pilots regularly until around 1944 when they did started to lose more men than they had planes.
The facts remains, the top 10+ fighters of the war were German with each having 50 or more kills. The Allies won the skies by simply outnumbering and relentless bombing raids.
No the Germans did not rotate their pilots, that is how the top german pilots had over a thousand sorties each. Look at Gerhard Barkhorn, man flew from the Battle of France all the way until the end of WWII, over 1000 sorties. No allied combat pilot had close to that many sorties because they were rotated out.
The Luftwaffe was a core of experts and a large body of poorly trained green pilots from late 1943 onwards. The allied pilot by 1944 was better trained on average. Quantity and quality.
@mrceebees14 MrGunner is correct. Ofc he is! Do you seriously contend that german pilots were better just because they were german, like? German aces racked up their scores simply because they flew more missions. In terms of kills/mission, allied and german aces are comparable, just as one would expect, with a slight edge maybe to allied, particularly if you discount eastern front, again just as expected, since they mostly flew better planes.
@mrceebees14 re outnumbering the Germans. Yes. The Luftwaffe (to use an analogy) could shoot down 10 B-17s a day, but we were building 20. Or they could shoot down 20 P-47s a day, but we were building 40.
The war in the Pacific was the same way... it was our industrial capability that won that war.
@mrceebees14 wonder why the germans never did as well with the heavy bomb raids as the uk , what was their lagest raid during the blitz of britain , I dont mean london because they hit the whole of the uk .
@westersprings They never bombed the whole of the UK. Hitler SPECIFICALLY had his bombers bomb areas that were heavily concentrated with Jews. Those areas were normally way out of range and they suffered as a result.
The other problem was sending packs of Stukas out without escorts, they were easy for Spitfires to pick off.
It was more idiocy by Hitler than German equipment. If Hitler had been 'sane, England would have been defeated.
@mrceebees14 "It was more idiocy by Hitler than German equipment. If Hitler had been 'sane, England would have been defeated."
If Hitler had been sane the war would have never happened. Hell he probably wouldn't have been chancellor either. That's the problem with alternative histories of WWII, they count on Hitler not acting like Hitler.
@specom Don't blame Hitler for the war, the Allies knew Germany was re-arming itself, a big violation of the Versaille treaty, and did nothing to stop him. Instead they send Chamberlain over to Germany to get Hitler to sign a treaty which turned out to be as worthless as a sheet of used toilet paper.
He takes the Rhineland back, the Allies do nothing, he takes the Sudaten land back, the Allies do nothing, he marches into Czech territory and the Allies still do nothing.
@Mcplkelly You don't get it. France had the largest army in the world at the time and it was powerful. All they needed to do is mobilize a portion of it and Hitler would have had to pull back. That was in 1937, those 2 years that German military grew enormous, factories running around the clock and soldiers being turned out in the thousands every year from every branch of the military.
@mrceebees14 Or you know Hitler could have just not done what he did. The British and French deserve a certain amount of blame for their pussy appeasement response (to be fair the French far less, the interwar governments lasted only a few months so a coherent response was doomed in many cases). Ultimately Hitler started made the decision to do what he did, so he takes most of the blame.
@Mcplkelly Hitler didn't push for war. The Polish people had started their own aggression toward the Germans and Hitler had to use force to stop it. Since Britain and France had a treaty with Poland they both declared war on Germany and that's how WW2 began. You're probably going to give me the whole "evil Hitler" BS that's usually on TV, but unless you have something other than typical fabricated "TV history", spare me. Study a little more before you point the finger and repeat what's on TV.
@DeutscheRitter1 Not sure how I let that one slip. Regardless, few historians honestly buy the allegation that Poland was at fault for starting the war. Even the Russian ultra-nationalists who try to white-wash their little deal with Hitler to divide up Poland only blame Poland for not ceding the Polish Corridor, rather than claims of Polish aggression like you are pushing.
Frankly after Czechoslovakia, its not like official Nazi rationale (Poland attacked us) has much credibility.
@Mcplkelly There are many accounts of the hostilities by the Polish people against the Germans, all of which are by American and British politicians and diplomats who were there at the time. Every one of those diplomats, mostly American, have stated in detail that it was Britain and Poland that started the war, not Germany. When the leaders of America and Britain admit to starting the war, that's kind of a hint that Germany didn't start it. Sorry to destroy your belief's, but that's life.
@DeutscheRitter1 Given you have not offered the name of even one of these supposed diplomats who claimed Britain and Poland started the war you have far from "destroyed" my beliefs. If England and Poland really wanted to go to war against Germany, they would have done in back in 1936 when Germany marched into the Rhineland in violation of Versailles. They would not have waited until Germany had rearmed. Not to mention they would have attacked German from France before Poland was overrun in 1939.
Ur interpretation as to who started WW2...HILARIOUS
And of course Britain & France were being 'aggressive' (wink-wink) when they appeased Hitler w/ the Munich Agreement & then they again showed their 'aggression' when they retreated & the British evacuated from Dunkirk.
Of course it was only fair that the nazis shud keep all of Europe that they had pillaged & plundered on account of the 'fact' (wink-wink) they were treated so poorly at Versailles
For whatever merit you care to assign to it, German pilots were very noble in combat. Once their prey was hit and disabled they stopped shooting at it. They were fighter pilots, not assassins.
British, French, American and Japanese pilots would shoot, and shoot again, and shoot again, and etc. A lot of fine Luftwaffe pilots died needlessly under the guns of Allied pilots.
Translation: British, French, American and Japanese pilots left a lot of orphans in their wake.
@MrGunnerRetired Its WAR. You kill your enemy and he cant fight you anymore. How are the men in the air any different from the men on the ground? Do you think the bomber pilots that the germans shot down had families too. The vast majority of them died until we gained control of the skies. War isn't pretty or noble it is dirty, gritty and you accept the consequences when you choose to participate.
@MrGunnerRetired Bomb the devils. Winston Churchill said. They wanted to rule all Europe and got a good solid response, they deserved each bullet they got.
@CFITOMAHAWK2 The carnage wrought in Europe between 1938 and 1945 was NOT the fault of every German soldier, sailor or airman. "THEY" (who wanted to rule all Europe) was in reality a small handful of people. Not an excuse to commit genocide and slaughter and entire race of peoples (such as for example the Few Nazis involved in the Death Camps and Death Squads in Europe and Russia committed upon the civilian populace).
There is no reason to commit reckless wanton murder in wartime.
I'm sorry, but the US did not win the war BRITIAN did. We were the one's fighting from 1939 - to 1941. Japan only bombed pearl harbour as to try and make the Americans back off, to deter them from entering the war. but as it happens, it had the opposite effect. The people who say "Britain didn't have the strength or political will to win" PLEASE! Mr. Churchill would spin in his grave if he heard that.
@SinclairisCool I think you could actually make a more valid argument that the Russians won the war since most of it happened there.
Churchill, more than anything else, wanted the Americans in the war because he rightly saw that to beat the Nazis, he'd have to rely on the huge manufacturing base that only the US could provide at that time. You're right, it's incorrect to say England didn't have the political will to fight or win, Germany was at war with them weather they liked it or not.
@Krait99 It was a joint effort of The AmericansThe Russians & The British that won WW2. for example: America had Money. Britain had time. and the Russians had the man power. Britain was able to fight for as long as the Germans were Willing. The Americans Had the Money to build tanks and guns and ammunition The Russians supplied us with Men and Women to fight. What i really meant to say before was that it annoys when Americans say they won the war on there own. If you want you can email me :)
@SinclairisCool There is the inevitable chest thumping that goes along with any WWII discussion but mostly from people who weren't there and don't know better. I think it's pretty safe to say that no one country would have won the war quickly on it's own, any argument against that I think is poorly informed. The Russians did take the brunt of the German offensive which allowed the successful opening of the 2nd and 3rd fronts
@mrceebees14 Well you really have to laugh at a dumbass comment like that ! The 109 took a lot more skill to fly ? So in other words you are saying it was crap LOL .I think lots of German WW2 pilots would take issue with you on that .
'BS Spitfire' ???? Even the German pilots of the day recognised that the Spitfire was an awesome machine capable of staggering manoeuvrability . However the by all accounts the Hurricane was some say as good and a much better gunship - it hit the target more .
@Glen694u Didn't say it wasn't a good plane, but it was a-lot easier to fly than the 109, that is very true.
The 109 is a much more precision based aircraft, you try to pull off banking moves or use the rudder in a 109 the way you do a Hurricane or Spitfire and you would lose control.
@mrceebees14 Yes agreed . That is exactly what I have seen the pilots of the day say about the two aircraft .The 109 pilot had to have many more hours of training to be able to fly the plane because it was harder to fly . That did give the German pilots an advantage in that they had a lot more flying hours before active service - that does not necessarily mean that they were better pilots though .
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Depends on the model, the ones with 8 .303s could empty pretty fast, each gun fired out at a rate of ~1200 per minute.
Later Marks with 2x 20mm and 4x 303 were different, 303s had more ammo per gun. Mark IIs and Vs had 120 rounds of cannon ammo (60 rounds per gun) where as the VII and IX had 240 rounds of cannon ammo (120 rpg).
Desperate time (the depression) causes people to support drastic things, you dont see Russia being a great place to be before Lenin comes in. You dont see Germany in the greatest place (downes plan anyone?) before it allowed extremists like hitler into power. Im not defending hitler, but Im defending the desperate people of germany at the time
The allies including the u.k. had zero honor they were no diffrent than their soviet russian scum. They all screwed up Europe Germany today is no diffrent than the u.k. or the u.s. they dont know who the hell they are. They are as mixed up as the others. Got to get the slime u.s. bases out of there. Let them screwq the u.s. up more not Europe.
German bombers never had a swival gun turret and most were obsolete or converted air liners.The german navy was not even up to the standard of the anglo /German navel agreement of 1937 which limited the number of warships she could build.
Is propoganda like in russia everythings is lies same with this film story here. ME 262 was the best you right many kills was on ground. Remember fual was the short so many just got shot in parking spots then this victorious allie lies to world that they shots down ME 262 and stupids peoples believit
No most archives I've seen say that the tactic against the Me262 was to shoot them at their most vulnerable which was on landing! So the allies aren't lying, do you live in Russia by any chance?
Heres the thing Nazi germany had the better technology as in better tanks,fighter planes,artillery better equipped soldiers and they still lost the war and the reason is because the soldiers werent fighting for what they believed in they were fighting cause if they didnt they would've been treated like the jews were! German cowards that wouldnt stand up to hitler before he got out of control are the reason millions of innocents died including germans,russians,and americans
And British, Canadians, Italians, Japanese, Australians, etc. Not agreeing or disagreeing, just adding on. And I wouldn't call them cowards, per say. Unfortunately, what happened happened and we can't change it. Can only learn from it. Right? =P
@vanoliza The germans had less tanks then the French at the start of the war .Bombers and fighters that could only go ashort distance.. The General's were ready to take power, just before Chamberlain gave away Czechoslovakia ,so giving support to the nazis.
german were equipped with rounds that could penetrate the FRONT of a sherman tank they even had the king tiger tank which had like 122mm round all their tanks had radio coms our tanks onl had radio in the lead tanks from each division even our fighter planes had to shoot under the tanks so the rounds would bounce off the street and peirce the weak underbelly of german tanks because they couldnt penetrate the thick armor of panzers they had far better technology we even recruited ther scientists
The P-47 had 8-50cal brownings cyclic rate of fire 800 rounds per min. times 8-guns that's 106 rounds per second. Pilots got to choose where they converged together at one point! They might not penetrate Hitlers bunker but guarenteed they would almost anything else including a Tiger Tank!!!
50 cals could not penetrate panza tanks at any rate of fire cmon tanks shoot 88mm rounds 122mm rounds and sometimes dont penetrate the armor of a tank 50cal!! lol we use that for sniping now and infantry sure it will blow ur head off but penetrate the top of a panza or tiger or king tiger NO WAY but the us pilots learned to shoot under the tanks so the rouds would bounce and penetrate through the soft underbelly of german tanks
My Grandfather flew 65 missions in the pacifac with the 40th fighter squadron. Two of his buddies I had the pleasure to meet flew with the 352nd fighter group in europe they all flew P47's then later P-51D's. I called b.s. on the claim as well, but they swore that when they put bead of all guns on one point it most definitely shredded anything in the "Panzer" divisions including the tiger.
You really think US pilots were that accuarate they could make cannon shells "bounce" into the hull of a tank, when 60 years later they still shoot up British allies with A10s?
@dogsparents Friendly fire happens. Just because you saw one video of an A10 strafing CLOSE to a group of brit soldiers doesn't mean it happens everyday.. I watched a video the other (on Vice guide to AFG) where a British apache bombed the wrong area and killed ANA soldiers on accident. I love all of this blind US hatred that runs rampant on EVERY FUCKING SINGLE VIDEO that has ANYTHING to do with the US. Just keep blaming your problems on America, please.
Those guys blaming America are blaming themselves. This country was started by people from Europe coming over here for more territory and a revolution later,a new country. But do they know this? No. Hell,they don't even know what war is...idiots here...
@Burntrubber87 GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, THE A10 TANK BUSTER IS DESIGNED TO OPERATE AT LOW ALTITUDE , TANK BUSTING, BUT BECAUSE THE YANK PILOTS ARE TOO GAY TO GO DOWN LOW AND IDENTIFY THEIR TARGETS FIRST, BRITS END UP DYING, LOW LEVEL PRECISION BOMBING IS LEFT TO AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE BOMBER CREWS OF THE RAF TORNADO CREWS, FACT, LEAVE THE DIRTY JOBS TO US, BLACK OPS, AND THE REAL WARS ARE FOUGHT BY PRO SOLDIERS
@Burntrubber87 GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, THE A10 TANK BUSTER IS DESIGNED TO OPERATE AT LOW ALTITUDE , TANK BUSTING, BUT BECAUSE THE YANK PILOTS ARE TOO GAY TO GO DOWN LOW AND IDENTIFY THEIR TARGETS FIRST, BRITS END UP DYING, LOW LEVEL PRECISION BOMBING IS LEFT TO AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE BOMBER CREWS OF THE RAF TORNADO CREWS, FACT, LEAVE THE DIRTY JOBS TO US, BLACK OPS, AND THE REAL WARS ARE FOUGHT BY PRO SOLDIERS
Even on the Tiger tank, the top cover above the engine was no more than 20-25 mm thick (don't remember exactly). The bottom plate was about equally thick, also 20 mm something. The myth about ricochets comes from american pilots who really thought this was what they were doing. But a ricochet cannot penetrate the bottom plate. The top otoh, can be penetrated by the .50 round by adding the aircraft speed to the bullet velocity. And this was what happened. The engine then catching fire.
Germany's tanks were by and large not superior to allied designs, at the start of the war they were inferior in actuality to most allied tanks, by the end of the war a portion was superior but still many average tanks in their arsenal.
Allies retained parity in the air in designs, Spitfire and P51 were first rate planes.
Allies had better artillery, not to mention a far more advanced doctrine. By late 1944 the allies had radar sets on balloons that could calculate the position of German guns.
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The superiority of the Luftwaffe is beyond controversy. Go google "list of world war 2 flying aces", look the Wikipedia and show some humbleness. The top 3 german aces shot down nearly 1000 enemies. Under the top 100 ww2 flying aces there is not a single non-german pilot. This is no propaganda it is backed up by allied intelligence.
Gelebify 2 weeks ago
discovery channel is SHIT!!!!!!!!
milespuppet 1 month ago
thanks for the upload
the82spartans 2 months ago
It's good to see the 262 going down.
alexiswolfe 4 months ago
@alexiswolfe Its a terrible sight, how could you say something like that.
Dercommandingofficer 2 months ago
@Dercommandingofficer Yes, you're right it's all terrible. Although bad things were done on all sides I think the Nazis excelled in war crimes as history depicts, and the Luftwaffe made a habit of shooting up pilots swinging in parachutes and straffing lines of civilians (women, children and the old) fleeing the front lines etc.
alexiswolfe 2 months ago
Great video! I just bought a real rock'em - sock'em WWII DVD called, "The Thundering 8th". It has Jan Michael Vincent as a drunken B-17 pilot!!!- Lol
donnymopar 5 months ago
What song is this?
porrsmurfen 5 months ago
that poor B-24 got her face shredded i hope the pilots were ok i dont kno about the bombadier and navigator though :(
yungprince870 5 months ago
If Germany would ally with Poland and help militarize my country they would safe 100,000 soldiers, aircraft and tanks and especialy a lot of bombs. Poland was able to organize army counted in milions so Soviet Union would probably fall upon them and Britain would be an easy prey caused by a lot more Axis armies focused on the west front.
MaxPolej 5 months ago
Isnt horrible how the US killed all those Germans just because the Jews told them too.
theapollomoonlanding 5 months ago
@theapollomoonlanding :D LOL .. everybody was trying to get rid of germans :D
hackerisslv 4 months ago
Amazing.....some of the shots i've newer been seen....unbelievable
ied86 6 months ago
u telling me they had this great quality in 1940 and they took the shittiest camera 2 the moon? i mean compare the quality wow
karimzone 6 months ago
@karimzone the conditions on the moon and earth are quite different.. just saying. You also have to remember every gram is counted on a space flight.
DrHavoc1 6 months ago
me262 @ 1:58..? nice ;-j
wolf2jon 6 months ago
1:37 ouch
baca262 6 months ago
@baca262 yea, that US Liberator took it right in the face.
DB742 5 months ago
@DB742 yeah it did i wonder what the hell all those big chunks were coming from it had to been something falling out the nose part i just hope it wasn't airmen
yungprince870 5 months ago
nice music
TheWeeklyLawReports 6 months ago
no one with any credibility believes Poland started the war. It's just ridiculous. Nazi Germany and the USSR made a pact to divide Poland between them, which they did, very effectively, by invading with all the brutality they could muster. The Nazis claimed there had been border incursions by Polish forces, but these were a set up, they took concentration camps prisoners, executed them and left them in Polish uniforms just inside the German border. Mcplkelly has been seriously misled.
robinoi 8 months ago
@DEUTSCHESHITTER AND HITLER DIDNT MURDER JEWS EITHER? YOU ARE A CUNT BUT WORSE THAN THAT YOU ARE A GERMAN CUNT YOU LOST 2 WORLD WARS COS YOU ARE STUPID CUNTS. STICK TO MAKING CARS AND BUSES.
LOSERLARRY 8 months ago
If you watch a 1:46 real slow you can see that thats the bailing out pilot almost getting hit, thats gotta be the attaking pilots worst nightmare to hit another pilot, even though an enemy they had alot of respect for each other.
flyrphil 9 months ago
@flyrphil i dont think that was the pilot. it looked like the right wing all twisted up.
flyer56 7 months ago
war is a bad thing
eleszar1 9 months ago
@eleszar1
War brought us the greatest technological breakthroughs ever. It's almost like a collective instinct to survive is bringing up the best in us.
FireOfEire 8 months ago
@FireOfEire you thinking wrong we could evovle much faster if whole humanity work as a team and not like an ass ego
eleszar1 8 months ago
人間が死ぬ場面を見ないで済む。敵が負ける場面を見ることができる。
想像力 禁止
akastalin 9 months ago
@akastalin '?
BazillusWolfenstein 8 months ago
Me 262... Fucking nice aircaft. For awhile the allies couldnt even touch those jets..
14Cody88 11 months ago
Anyone have family that flew a Mustang? My Grandfather flew the FW190, but I haven't met anyone that had time in a P-51 or P-47.
DeutscheRitter1 11 months ago
The Mustangs would jump the 262's when they were returning to thier airfield- they were low on fuel and ammo, and therefore vunerable.
kkrankie 11 months ago
the last 262 shot down is walter nowotny greatest aces of ww2
ptigilou1 11 months ago
@ptigilou1 Not entirely true - the greatest would be Erich Hartmann with 352 kills. He is the pilot with most kills of all time in fact.
miltbrand 11 months ago
I like the p51 start up....with the flames coming from the exhaust
68bobba 1 year ago
This alied pilot get so closer of this Me-262 in stall, nice video, tank´s
mcmmielli 1 year ago
This alied pilot get so closer of this Me-262 in stall, nice video, tank´s
mcmmielli 1 year ago
First time ive seen 262 footage, is it rare?
tarryhoot 1 year ago
great footage
eaglemike1515 1 year ago
very intense
dgrayzona 1 year ago
oh those are the german phasengleiter i guess
FOGELFCS 1 year ago
Was that a ME 262 being shot down?
JediGTI 1 year ago
@JediGTI
Yes. The americans would loiter around airfields they knew the 262s operated from.
The 262s were vulnerable on take-off and landing where they would be jumped by allied fighters.
They were almost invulnerable at speed at altitude but not low and slow
They took a while to build up to high speed and could not have sudden throttle changes without risk of flame-out of the engines. The germans had FW190s fly cover for then to allow safe takeoff and landing but that was not always possible
Grommo 1 year ago
1:30, hit the ammunition in wing...that pilot did not make it for sure.
aure232 1 year ago
@aure232 Ya the sudden energy from the torque alone would have killed him.
Lionwolf0777 1 year ago
The Nazis were out fought by the allies - more importantly, though, they were also out thought as well. The downfall of all totalitarian regimes is the intolerance of all opposing thought. Only when there is freedom of speech, i.e."thinking in the open" - can all ideas - good and bad, be considered, accepted or rejected.
tooterooterville 1 year ago
Nice footage...Memphis Belle at 0:57 mission.
UnknownSuspect1 1 year ago
very nice video!
Forgetmequick 1 year ago
it's still sad to think my countrymen killed other young men who didnt want to go to war or do war crimes god bless UK and her allies and GERMANY and its allies
XsUp3rDuBzX 1 year ago
Hi Maciek76PL (or anyone else, please), what is this verson of Step Up by Drowning Pool called? Is it commercially available and if so, where? Thanks in anticipation.
brucecrobertson1 1 year ago
what's with the ching chong music?
tninbredretard 1 year ago
veeery nice quality :) ...thanks for uploading
AIVger 1 year ago
lol think you'll find the us has a habit of blue on blue. all the gear no idea....
stoneyard100 1 year ago
@stoneyard100 many thanks; i'll try to get it...
george19kiss69 1 year ago
who knows the music?
george19kiss69 1 year ago
@george19kiss69 Various Artists - Arnhem Land
7JDH7NL7 1 year ago
the b-24 pilot at 1:38 got owned ....
IIAndersII 1 year ago
@IIAndersII show some respect that person DIED. He died probably died over enemy territory, for his country, for the freedom of his people and others. To be disrespected by you.
namtar223 1 year ago
It must be realised,right at the outset,that every allied participant in this war was a HERO!Even the cooks and bottlewashers,batmen and clerks back in the US or GB!
Squarerig 1 year ago
nothing quite like watching the real thing.
Mr66degrees 1 year ago
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mspratz 1 year ago
Germs and Japs ate shit. as they should have. as they did. they have ;earned a lesson as should those Muslim
jlipsen 1 year ago
@jlipsen Germans were actually very well trained and very well armed. The FW190D was regarded as one of the best aircraft to fly in WWII and if the Ta-152 and Me262 had come into service sooner then we'd have been in real trouble. Their leadership is what let them down and also a few basic mistakes especially regarding rotation of aircrew.
flounderal 1 year ago
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ehasko 1 year ago
@jlipsen radical muslims are far greater than the nazi and japs were, it's gonna be a tougher war I guess.
ehasko 1 year ago
The only reason the germans did not set foot in england proper in 1940 was due to a stretch of water known as the channel, no amount of postering by churchill, or the bravery of the few would have been able to stop the germans without the channel.
volkswin 1 year ago
@volkswin Also the fact that Hitler in fact wanted the UK as a partner. He never wanted to go to war against the UK and even thought our empire was the best in the world.
flounderal 1 year ago
@volkswin Really I distinctly remember the presence of the Royal Navy and the German Air force failure to capture air superiority from the British Royal Air Force as being a distinct reason the Germans could not cross a certain body of water.
Mcplkelly 1 year ago
@Mcplkelly Of course you are right the failure of the germans to achieve air superiority was crucial but you missing the point of the post, that is had we not had the channel to fall back behind the luftwaffe would'nt have needed to wrest air superioty from the RAF in the first place and would have swept into the UK just as they did France no matter how many divisions we had at the time, due to superiority of german arms at that time
this does not diminish however the achievements of the few.
volkswin 1 year ago
If there had been no channel chances are Napoleon would have crushed England back during the Napoleonic wars and there never would have been World Wars as we know them because Europe would have been under French domination.
I understand what you mean, just frankly I dislike arguments that involve removing geographic barriers. It is like saying the US would have rolled over the Germans in Normandy had the bocage not been present, problem was it was present.
Mcplkelly 1 year ago
what ever! rule brittania! german soldiors never stepped foot on english land! and that was nothing to do with any help from ANY country.
turbotim129 1 year ago
1:38 Evil kill :o
33049156 1 year ago
nothing better than seeing a Kraut losing in an Me-262. thanks for the post
JFDhater 1 year ago
there is some footage of memphis belle a story of a flying fortress 1944 time= 0:51 1:02 1:04 1:07 1:12 1:20
msmusic4evr 1 year ago
good video, I had never seen before origial footage with the advanced (at that time) ME262.
aldo3g 1 year ago
Killing those poor young pilots in the 262's. Doesn't matter how good your plane is, its experience and training/doctrine that supersede all. The early jets sucked at low speeds and without sufficient airspeed and thrust the 262 would drop like a rock.
spectre04 1 year ago
I'm almost surprised at the number of Me-262 in these shots.
SPYK3O 1 year ago
You are telling me that German Soldiers that were butchering their neighbors on their own homes and land were just doped by their bosses into that carnage? I though Germans were smarter than believing they could control all Europe, The Britts, All the Russians and on top the Americans that will be called, like in WW1. Did they say yes to The Rich Men of The Reich that just wanted to super profit from their butchering? THEY DESERVED EVERY BULLET THEY GOT.
CFITOMAHAWK2 1 year ago
Germany was outnumbered most of the war, yet, the top fighter aces of the War were G E R M A N.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 That... is because we rotated our pilots out of theater after they became 'heros', whereas the Luftwaffe had no choice but to keep their aviators in combat year after year after year. Further... for every 100+ Ace, 100 Luftwaffe fighter pilots died in combat. For every 200+ fighter Ace, 200 Luftwaffe fighter pilot died in combat. etc.
MrGunnerRetired 1 year ago
Additionally the scoring system was different for German pilots when reporting a kill, and perhaps even more important Allied fighter pilots were not always able to confirm their kills. Many a US, Canadian and British pilots bemoaned their inability to confirm kills they achieved ergo did not receive credit due ESPECIALLY in the Pacific Theater where kills could be over huge expanses of water with no solid land for tens of miles (if not hundreds)..
MrGunnerRetired 1 year ago
@MrGunnerRetired The Germans rotated their pilots regularly until around 1944 when they did started to lose more men than they had planes.
The facts remains, the top 10+ fighters of the war were German with each having 50 or more kills. The Allies won the skies by simply outnumbering and relentless bombing raids.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
No the Germans did not rotate their pilots, that is how the top german pilots had over a thousand sorties each. Look at Gerhard Barkhorn, man flew from the Battle of France all the way until the end of WWII, over 1000 sorties. No allied combat pilot had close to that many sorties because they were rotated out.
The Luftwaffe was a core of experts and a large body of poorly trained green pilots from late 1943 onwards. The allied pilot by 1944 was better trained on average. Quantity and quality.
Mcplkelly 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 MrGunner is correct. Ofc he is! Do you seriously contend that german pilots were better just because they were german, like? German aces racked up their scores simply because they flew more missions. In terms of kills/mission, allied and german aces are comparable, just as one would expect, with a slight edge maybe to allied, particularly if you discount eastern front, again just as expected, since they mostly flew better planes.
Vermiliontea 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 re outnumbering the Germans. Yes. The Luftwaffe (to use an analogy) could shoot down 10 B-17s a day, but we were building 20. Or they could shoot down 20 P-47s a day, but we were building 40.
The war in the Pacific was the same way... it was our industrial capability that won that war.
MrGunnerRetired 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 wonder why the germans never did as well with the heavy bomb raids as the uk , what was their lagest raid during the blitz of britain , I dont mean london because they hit the whole of the uk .
westersprings 1 year ago
@westersprings They never bombed the whole of the UK. Hitler SPECIFICALLY had his bombers bomb areas that were heavily concentrated with Jews. Those areas were normally way out of range and they suffered as a result.
The other problem was sending packs of Stukas out without escorts, they were easy for Spitfires to pick off.
It was more idiocy by Hitler than German equipment. If Hitler had been 'sane, England would have been defeated.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 "It was more idiocy by Hitler than German equipment. If Hitler had been 'sane, England would have been defeated."
If Hitler had been sane the war would have never happened. Hell he probably wouldn't have been chancellor either. That's the problem with alternative histories of WWII, they count on Hitler not acting like Hitler.
specom 10 months ago
@specom Don't blame Hitler for the war, the Allies knew Germany was re-arming itself, a big violation of the Versaille treaty, and did nothing to stop him. Instead they send Chamberlain over to Germany to get Hitler to sign a treaty which turned out to be as worthless as a sheet of used toilet paper.
He takes the Rhineland back, the Allies do nothing, he takes the Sudaten land back, the Allies do nothing, he marches into Czech territory and the Allies still do nothing.
Blame the Allies.
mrceebees14 10 months ago
@mrceebees14 or both
corporacionmonstruo 10 months ago
@mrceebees14 Yeah don't blame the man who shoots the gun, blame the people that could have stopped the man who shot the gun!
No seriously it was Hitlers fault, regardless of the Allied leadership being spineless, Hitler made the decision to push for war.
Mcplkelly 10 months ago
@Mcplkelly You don't get it. France had the largest army in the world at the time and it was powerful. All they needed to do is mobilize a portion of it and Hitler would have had to pull back. That was in 1937, those 2 years that German military grew enormous, factories running around the clock and soldiers being turned out in the thousands every year from every branch of the military.
The Allies fucked up.
mrceebees14 10 months ago
@mrceebees14 Or you know Hitler could have just not done what he did. The British and French deserve a certain amount of blame for their pussy appeasement response (to be fair the French far less, the interwar governments lasted only a few months so a coherent response was doomed in many cases). Ultimately Hitler started made the decision to do what he did, so he takes most of the blame.
Mcplkelly 10 months ago
@Mcplkelly Hitler didn't push for war. The Polish people had started their own aggression toward the Germans and Hitler had to use force to stop it. Since Britain and France had a treaty with Poland they both declared war on Germany and that's how WW2 began. You're probably going to give me the whole "evil Hitler" BS that's usually on TV, but unless you have something other than typical fabricated "TV history", spare me. Study a little more before you point the finger and repeat what's on TV.
DeutscheRitter1 10 months ago
@DeutscheRitter1 Gobbles would be so proud.
Mcplkelly 9 months ago
@Mcplkelly He would be even more proud if you spelled his name correctly.
DeutscheRitter1 9 months ago
@DeutscheRitter1 Not sure how I let that one slip. Regardless, few historians honestly buy the allegation that Poland was at fault for starting the war. Even the Russian ultra-nationalists who try to white-wash their little deal with Hitler to divide up Poland only blame Poland for not ceding the Polish Corridor, rather than claims of Polish aggression like you are pushing.
Frankly after Czechoslovakia, its not like official Nazi rationale (Poland attacked us) has much credibility.
Mcplkelly 9 months ago
@Mcplkelly There are many accounts of the hostilities by the Polish people against the Germans, all of which are by American and British politicians and diplomats who were there at the time. Every one of those diplomats, mostly American, have stated in detail that it was Britain and Poland that started the war, not Germany. When the leaders of America and Britain admit to starting the war, that's kind of a hint that Germany didn't start it. Sorry to destroy your belief's, but that's life.
DeutscheRitter1 9 months ago
@DeutscheRitter1 Given you have not offered the name of even one of these supposed diplomats who claimed Britain and Poland started the war you have far from "destroyed" my beliefs. If England and Poland really wanted to go to war against Germany, they would have done in back in 1936 when Germany marched into the Rhineland in violation of Versailles. They would not have waited until Germany had rearmed. Not to mention they would have attacked German from France before Poland was overrun in 1939.
Mcplkelly 9 months ago
@DeutscheRitter1
Ur interpretation as to who started WW2...HILARIOUS
And of course Britain & France were being 'aggressive' (wink-wink) when they appeased Hitler w/ the Munich Agreement & then they again showed their 'aggression' when they retreated & the British evacuated from Dunkirk.
Of course it was only fair that the nazis shud keep all of Europe that they had pillaged & plundered on account of the 'fact' (wink-wink) they were treated so poorly at Versailles
You'd make a fine christian :D
atrumira 6 months ago
@mrceebees14 Hindsight is 20/20
aldraw 10 months ago
@MrGunnerRetired It's still a huge feat considering the Allies had a 3:1 ratio of supplies compared to Germany.
mrceebees14 10 months ago
Англия все равно потеряла все свои колонии. За что она воевала? Зачем она бомбила Европу?
SergioDoenetz 1 year ago
For whatever merit you care to assign to it, German pilots were very noble in combat. Once their prey was hit and disabled they stopped shooting at it. They were fighter pilots, not assassins.
British, French, American and Japanese pilots would shoot, and shoot again, and shoot again, and etc. A lot of fine Luftwaffe pilots died needlessly under the guns of Allied pilots.
Translation: British, French, American and Japanese pilots left a lot of orphans in their wake.
MrGunnerRetired 1 year ago
@MrGunnerRetired If you kill the enemy he can't fight you anymore. Why would someone chance having to face the pilot again? Its war, not a game.
Blacklung27 1 year ago
@Blacklung27 And ummmmmm the pilots family? Children? There's a need to establish and maintain air superiority... there's no need to commit murder.
MrGunnerRetired 1 year ago
@MrGunnerRetired Its WAR. You kill your enemy and he cant fight you anymore. How are the men in the air any different from the men on the ground? Do you think the bomber pilots that the germans shot down had families too. The vast majority of them died until we gained control of the skies. War isn't pretty or noble it is dirty, gritty and you accept the consequences when you choose to participate.
Blacklung27 1 year ago
@MrGunnerRetired Well said....!
Lemev 1 year ago
@MrGunnerRetired Bomb the devils. Winston Churchill said. They wanted to rule all Europe and got a good solid response, they deserved each bullet they got.
CFITOMAHAWK2 1 year ago
@CFITOMAHAWK2 The carnage wrought in Europe between 1938 and 1945 was NOT the fault of every German soldier, sailor or airman. "THEY" (who wanted to rule all Europe) was in reality a small handful of people. Not an excuse to commit genocide and slaughter and entire race of peoples (such as for example the Few Nazis involved in the Death Camps and Death Squads in Europe and Russia committed upon the civilian populace).
There is no reason to commit reckless wanton murder in wartime.
MrGunnerRetired 1 year ago
My grandfather lived in Berlin during the war and knew Adolf Galland (a friend of his parents). Crushed.
maxisttot 1 year ago
Great Footage, I must admit I haven't seen the Me 262 footage before. Good video!
Redhawk092 1 year ago
i hate watching WWII footage thats edited at 3 secs per image...its ridiculous!!
lordofchord 1 year ago
interesting music, great footage.
Fastbikkel 1 year ago
Pull the other one. The current music isn't Drowning Pool-Step Up, so who is it?
QMSGTWilliams 1 year ago
Nice footage of the 262!!
SteveD328 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but the US did not win the war BRITIAN did. We were the one's fighting from 1939 - to 1941. Japan only bombed pearl harbour as to try and make the Americans back off, to deter them from entering the war. but as it happens, it had the opposite effect. The people who say "Britain didn't have the strength or political will to win" PLEASE! Mr. Churchill would spin in his grave if he heard that.
SinclairisCool 1 year ago
@SinclairisCool I think you could actually make a more valid argument that the Russians won the war since most of it happened there.
Churchill, more than anything else, wanted the Americans in the war because he rightly saw that to beat the Nazis, he'd have to rely on the huge manufacturing base that only the US could provide at that time. You're right, it's incorrect to say England didn't have the political will to fight or win, Germany was at war with them weather they liked it or not.
Krait99 1 year ago
@Krait99 It was a joint effort of The AmericansThe Russians & The British that won WW2. for example: America had Money. Britain had time. and the Russians had the man power. Britain was able to fight for as long as the Germans were Willing. The Americans Had the Money to build tanks and guns and ammunition The Russians supplied us with Men and Women to fight. What i really meant to say before was that it annoys when Americans say they won the war on there own. If you want you can email me :)
SinclairisCool 1 year ago
@SinclairisCool There is the inevitable chest thumping that goes along with any WWII discussion but mostly from people who weren't there and don't know better. I think it's pretty safe to say that no one country would have won the war quickly on it's own, any argument against that I think is poorly informed. The Russians did take the brunt of the German offensive which allowed the successful opening of the 2nd and 3rd fronts
Krait99 1 year ago
@Krait99 Exactly. Had The Russians not turned against the German's when they did, who knows what could have happened.
SinclairisCool 1 year ago
@SinclairisCool WWII was more of a team effort no one specificaly "won the war" everyone helped out to defeat their enemy. Plain and simple.
n1ght162 1 year ago
OoOo nasi są 0:12 spitfire z 302 dywizjonu !!!!!
julek150 1 year ago
109 took a hell of a-lot more skill to fly then that BS Spitfire.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 : You wouldn't sound quite so silly, if you had the slightest clue as to what you were talking about.
skeilak 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 Well you really have to laugh at a dumbass comment like that ! The 109 took a lot more skill to fly ? So in other words you are saying it was crap LOL .I think lots of German WW2 pilots would take issue with you on that .
'BS Spitfire' ???? Even the German pilots of the day recognised that the Spitfire was an awesome machine capable of staggering manoeuvrability . However the by all accounts the Hurricane was some say as good and a much better gunship - it hit the target more .
Glen694u 1 year ago
@Glen694u Didn't say it wasn't a good plane, but it was a-lot easier to fly than the 109, that is very true.
The 109 is a much more precision based aircraft, you try to pull off banking moves or use the rudder in a 109 the way you do a Hurricane or Spitfire and you would lose control.
The 190 was ever harder.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 Yes agreed . That is exactly what I have seen the pilots of the day say about the two aircraft .The 109 pilot had to have many more hours of training to be able to fly the plane because it was harder to fly . That did give the German pilots an advantage in that they had a lot more flying hours before active service - that does not necessarily mean that they were better pilots though .
Glen694u 1 year ago
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ForgottenFable 1 year ago
spitfires were such beautiful airplanes.
MutinyInJonestown 1 year ago
Sweet!
ME262 at 1:59
user1qaz2wsx 1 year ago 4
cool music
FROMAGE45 1 year ago
is it true that the spitfire only carried around 15 seconds of ammunition?
trje246 1 year ago
yes... watch the history channel show "dogfights" you can learn alot about this old planes
farcow 1 year ago
bloody hell i didnt know that 15 sec..
19smokey19 1 year ago
EVERY shoot count, so yes.. theyr 8 .303 machineguns and their 1780 bullets were empty'ed pretty fast.
xX0rt4Xx 1 year ago
goodness!! thats pretty scary. indeed, every shot counts then. Thanks for getttng back to me on that one, very interesting.
trje246 1 year ago
Depends on the model, the ones with 8 .303s could empty pretty fast, each gun fired out at a rate of ~1200 per minute.
Later Marks with 2x 20mm and 4x 303 were different, 303s had more ammo per gun. Mark IIs and Vs had 120 rounds of cannon ammo (60 rounds per gun) where as the VII and IX had 240 rounds of cannon ammo (120 rpg).
Mcplkelly 1 year ago
Germany screwed itself up by supporting hitler
MrElgeneralisimo 2 years ago 2
@MrElgeneralisimo
this is result of democracy anyway
Camradko 1 year ago
Desperate time (the depression) causes people to support drastic things, you dont see Russia being a great place to be before Lenin comes in. You dont see Germany in the greatest place (downes plan anyone?) before it allowed extremists like hitler into power. Im not defending hitler, but Im defending the desperate people of germany at the time
UHL0Amidaryu 1 year ago
the reason why most films and recorded stuff back then was black and white was because colored films were very expensive to make
mech1478965423 2 years ago
Never seen ME 262's on gun cam!
JU51DAS 2 years ago
wow... me262...never seen action film of these before.
paulthepill 2 years ago
The allies including the u.k. had zero honor they were no diffrent than their soviet russian scum. They all screwed up Europe Germany today is no diffrent than the u.k. or the u.s. they dont know who the hell they are. They are as mixed up as the others. Got to get the slime u.s. bases out of there. Let them screwq the u.s. up more not Europe.
volodyyy 2 years ago
German bombers never had a swival gun turret and most were obsolete or converted air liners.The german navy was not even up to the standard of the anglo /German navel agreement of 1937 which limited the number of warships she could build.
jrobertsoneff 2 years ago
Is propoganda like in russia everythings is lies same with this film story here. ME 262 was the best you right many kills was on ground. Remember fual was the short so many just got shot in parking spots then this victorious allie lies to world that they shots down ME 262 and stupids peoples believit
volodyyy 2 years ago
No most archives I've seen say that the tactic against the Me262 was to shoot them at their most vulnerable which was on landing! So the allies aren't lying, do you live in Russia by any chance?
dogsparents 2 years ago
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Scharfschutzen1 2 years ago
Wow..Me-262 kills! I've never seen those before. I guess it wasn't the wunder weapon the Germans thought it would be...
dmcfarli 2 years ago
It wasn't, but the German fanbois will try to have you believe it was invincible, just like the Tigger tank.
TheSaturnV 2 years ago
By the way, awesome footage. Been watching gun-cam footage for hours. Heh. Just in a history-buff mood I guess.
RevanRA 2 years ago
Heres the thing Nazi germany had the better technology as in better tanks,fighter planes,artillery better equipped soldiers and they still lost the war and the reason is because the soldiers werent fighting for what they believed in they were fighting cause if they didnt they would've been treated like the jews were! German cowards that wouldnt stand up to hitler before he got out of control are the reason millions of innocents died including germans,russians,and americans
vanoliza 2 years ago
@vanoliza
And British, Canadians, Italians, Japanese, Australians, etc. Not agreeing or disagreeing, just adding on. And I wouldn't call them cowards, per say. Unfortunately, what happened happened and we can't change it. Can only learn from it. Right? =P
RevanRA 2 years ago
@vanoliza The germans had less tanks then the French at the start of the war .Bombers and fighters that could only go ashort distance.. The General's were ready to take power, just before Chamberlain gave away Czechoslovakia ,so giving support to the nazis.
jrobertsoneff 2 years ago
german were equipped with rounds that could penetrate the FRONT of a sherman tank they even had the king tiger tank which had like 122mm round all their tanks had radio coms our tanks onl had radio in the lead tanks from each division even our fighter planes had to shoot under the tanks so the rounds would bounce off the street and peirce the weak underbelly of german tanks because they couldnt penetrate the thick armor of panzers they had far better technology we even recruited ther scientists
vanoliza 2 years ago
The P-47 had 8-50cal brownings cyclic rate of fire 800 rounds per min. times 8-guns that's 106 rounds per second. Pilots got to choose where they converged together at one point! They might not penetrate Hitlers bunker but guarenteed they would almost anything else including a Tiger Tank!!!
moto1p1 2 years ago
50 cals could not penetrate panza tanks at any rate of fire cmon tanks shoot 88mm rounds 122mm rounds and sometimes dont penetrate the armor of a tank 50cal!! lol we use that for sniping now and infantry sure it will blow ur head off but penetrate the top of a panza or tiger or king tiger NO WAY but the us pilots learned to shoot under the tanks so the rouds would bounce and penetrate through the soft underbelly of german tanks
vanoliza 2 years ago
My Grandfather flew 65 missions in the pacifac with the 40th fighter squadron. Two of his buddies I had the pleasure to meet flew with the 352nd fighter group in europe they all flew P47's then later P-51D's. I called b.s. on the claim as well, but they swore that when they put bead of all guns on one point it most definitely shredded anything in the "Panzer" divisions including the tiger.
moto1p1 2 years ago
You really think US pilots were that accuarate they could make cannon shells "bounce" into the hull of a tank, when 60 years later they still shoot up British allies with A10s?
dogsparents 2 years ago
@dogsparents Friendly fire happens. Just because you saw one video of an A10 strafing CLOSE to a group of brit soldiers doesn't mean it happens everyday.. I watched a video the other (on Vice guide to AFG) where a British apache bombed the wrong area and killed ANA soldiers on accident. I love all of this blind US hatred that runs rampant on EVERY FUCKING SINGLE VIDEO that has ANYTHING to do with the US. Just keep blaming your problems on America, please.
Burntrubber87 2 years ago 15
Those guys blaming America are blaming themselves. This country was started by people from Europe coming over here for more territory and a revolution later,a new country. But do they know this? No. Hell,they don't even know what war is...idiots here...
metallicastarwarsfan 2 years ago
@Burntrubber87 GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, THE A10 TANK BUSTER IS DESIGNED TO OPERATE AT LOW ALTITUDE , TANK BUSTING, BUT BECAUSE THE YANK PILOTS ARE TOO GAY TO GO DOWN LOW AND IDENTIFY THEIR TARGETS FIRST, BRITS END UP DYING, LOW LEVEL PRECISION BOMBING IS LEFT TO AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE BOMBER CREWS OF THE RAF TORNADO CREWS, FACT, LEAVE THE DIRTY JOBS TO US, BLACK OPS, AND THE REAL WARS ARE FOUGHT BY PRO SOLDIERS
41tim 1 year ago
@41tim Caps = cruise control for cool 8)
rome8800 1 year ago
@rome8800
seriously..i'm not even going to dignify him with a response..sounds like a 15 year old modern warfare 2 operator.
Burntrubber87 1 year ago
@Burntrubber87
Well mate, you almost got the age right (16), but thats about where it ends, considering I hate Call of Duty, especially the Modern Warfare series.
rome8800 1 year ago
@Burntrubber87 GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, THE A10 TANK BUSTER IS DESIGNED TO OPERATE AT LOW ALTITUDE , TANK BUSTING, BUT BECAUSE THE YANK PILOTS ARE TOO GAY TO GO DOWN LOW AND IDENTIFY THEIR TARGETS FIRST, BRITS END UP DYING, LOW LEVEL PRECISION BOMBING IS LEFT TO AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE BOMBER CREWS OF THE RAF TORNADO CREWS, FACT, LEAVE THE DIRTY JOBS TO US, BLACK OPS, AND THE REAL WARS ARE FOUGHT BY PRO SOLDIERS
41tim 1 year ago
@Burntrubber87 Ok , we will do - lol
Glen694u 1 year ago
we did it for the LuLz
icanmyshoetie 1 year ago
Sorry I forgot to add "Numb Nuts"
dogsparents 2 years ago
accuracy all they did was aim for the bottom of the tank and some rounds would ricochet up through the soft bottom of tank
vanoliza 2 years ago
Even on the Tiger tank, the top cover above the engine was no more than 20-25 mm thick (don't remember exactly). The bottom plate was about equally thick, also 20 mm something. The myth about ricochets comes from american pilots who really thought this was what they were doing. But a ricochet cannot penetrate the bottom plate. The top otoh, can be penetrated by the .50 round by adding the aircraft speed to the bullet velocity. And this was what happened. The engine then catching fire.
Vermiliontea 2 years ago
Not till 1944 were the allied tanks as goodBut the allies had thousands more.
jrobertsoneff 2 years ago
Germany's tanks were by and large not superior to allied designs, at the start of the war they were inferior in actuality to most allied tanks, by the end of the war a portion was superior but still many average tanks in their arsenal.
Allies retained parity in the air in designs, Spitfire and P51 were first rate planes.
Allies had better artillery, not to mention a far more advanced doctrine. By late 1944 the allies had radar sets on balloons that could calculate the position of German guns.
Mcplkelly 1 year ago 2