Great video Doc and great job by those boys! I don't know how you deal with all these dumbass comments Doc! It's amazing what some of these people write and how fast they are to criticize what they don't know! I didn't have to read all these comments to see why they handjacked the LDH, it's just simply a solid Engineer on top of his game that's working a few steps ahead to expedite a water supply and take care of his boys on the line! Once again, great work and great video!! Take care Sir!!
@peakster753 >>>---> LDH stands for Large Diameter Hose. LDH hoses are used to transport large volumes of water to fight a fire. Some of the LDHs are 5, 6, or 8 inch diameter. In this video they are using LDH with 5 inch diameter.
@outlookfilmer >>>---> A totally involved house fire around lunch time on April 7, 2009 was handled by Shreveport Firefighters. 1st and 2nd due engine companies were out on other calls. Usual procedure is for 1st engine to start fire attack and 2nd to lay LDH and in this part of town the 500 gals on the pumping engine is enough until the line re-supplies the 1st engine
@zaffdoc >>>---> . The 1st engine still had water, but the engineer decided not to take a chance and started laying the LDH because the special called engines were coming from from a long distance. Never the less the fire was extingurished in 9 minutes.
well im only 13 and next month since im gonna be 14, i called trevose fire company and they said you have to be 14 years or older to volunteer as and active fire fighter and im gonna volunteer there because they pay four the fire training. the only thing the applicant pays is a $4.00 fee for a backround check!
Really what state has such messed up child labors law that it will let you be a fireman at 14 but not work at burger king. I bet Osha is all for a 14 year old kid playing in fire.
how do u no about these fires all the time and their causes? are u a fire fighter? cause im soon going to be a volunteer with cornwells station 16 in bensalem pennsylvania
See where I am at that point, we bring in our Aerial Trucks and let them lose... As a Matter of fact we arrived on scene of a Fully involved house at 6:29 AM a couple of days ago and ended up using our Aerial Truck.
did they drive past the hydrant? unless they backed down that street i can't tell since he cut away but if they drove past it someone should teach them the easier way to lay LDH
@freeportkid You know to make a comment like that means you did not read about what happened. Do you ever read the other comments and the description of what took place before you make a comment?
@zaffdoc notice me asking a question that is me admiting i'm not sure what happened thats why i was looking for an answer but i guess a smart ass reply will suffice
@freeportkid This fire was in the city with eng houses all around it, but the first 2 engs were out at other calls. The usual procedure is for the first company to start fire attack with pre-connects and 500 gals onboard and the 2nd eng to lay the LDH - At this location it is way before the water runs out, but the special called engines were coming from a long distance and while the pumping eng still had water the engineer started stretching the LDH just in case.
@zaffdoc thanks for the non smart ass comment i was just confused on why they were handjacking all that LDH becuase i've done it up hill before when we came down a hill the wrong direction and were already infront of the structure plus since i'm just a vollie and at a rather small station we have 2 engines but most of the time only 1 can respond cause we dont have enough people and all our mutal aid companies are a good distance away our pump truck is the same one that has to run the LDH
@freeportkid ---> That must be pretty rough when you catch a working fire and you are there alone for a long time before the MA cos. arrive. Don't say that you are "just a vollie" - Being a vol FF is great especially if you learn all you can and train as much as possible. I am proud to be a vol.
@zaffdoc a couple weeks ago we had a working fire at about 1:30am call came in as fully involved working fire we arrived on scene with about 11 people 1 engine we were there for atleast 10 to 20 minutes alone we had one fully involved structure the adjacent structure on the D side had it's C side almost totally gone it was up in the attic and on the B side of the main building it was starting to spread into the structure beside it i'll send you a link our ems took right before we arrived
I don't understand what you say they did wrong. They put the fire out in 9 mins I call that good. I mean I can see them having to stay for a hour or so after the check all the hot spots. But still they got it out!
why would they rush to put out a house fire that is clearly out of control and not saveable, and no one was inside.. why risk a firefighters life for wood and a couple tvs that is already almost burnt to the ground. firefighter safety #1
@zaffdoc I see they have fog nozzles and most of them are set on straight. To evoke a better cooling effect they could set their nozzles on a more narrow cone to increase the water-affected area. Nevertheless good job.
@zaffdoc well theres a lot of things that coulda made it a little more efficent but im not going into this because different companys do different things in different ways so if this is what they do then they did it right but from what we do it looks wrong and dangerous
@sgilman91 >>>---> By being more efficient I suppose your company would have gotten the fire out in less than 9 minutes. Suppose (where your are located) the first two engine companies due on this fire are not available because they were out on other calls. You are carrying 500 gals of water and even with the next engine further away than normal it should arrive in time to lay in the LDH to resupply your water.but it is delayed in traffic - What would your company do to be more efficient.
@chips0987 That guy is Engine 5's Captain. He has been around a long time and knows more about firefighting than anyone, but I guess he is like an old "U-Boat Captain", they are going to do it their way or else. Oh, and you forgot to mention he did not have his coat buttoned and was using a non-SFD approved helmet. I think he gets a great deal of joy out of being a pain in the younger chief officers' asses.
@tgjolga Do you ever bother to read the other comments? They got the fricking fire out in lest than 9 minutes. I was there and it was pretty impressive what they did.
First of all is called "WATER" not "wather". second of all its a practice fire and there training you idolt! and third of all if your not a fire men and you know nothing about them. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
Class b uniforms are what my fire department wears to a parade or a sponserd event and the guy taking out the hose line was wearing what looked like in my fire department a class b uniform so calm down bud it was just a question
@ShowUsYourTDs Oh, that explains that. Yeah the question you asked was, "Where you going to a parade or something." That was kind of smart ass wasn't it? You can see a house burning like crazy in the background, so I guess you thought they were going to a parade because they did not have on their turnouts.
@ShowUsYourTDs Are you talking about the engine and the ladder truck drivers? They don't generally bunker out until they get on the scene and besides I don't know what you mean by Class B uniform since those were their work clothes. Gee, can't you all just watch the video without criticising everything? That was a stupid smart ass statement, "Were you going to a parade or something." Jesus!
Fact there is no video out there if a actual fire where everything happens like it would in a text book. that said my earlier comment was directed at a different film and i dont know how it got on this one. these guys did good. also 6inch hose is this not common elsewhere
how many hand lines does it take to put out a simple trash fire???really guys,,, were you looking at this as a training fire??? if so, thats ok cause everyone got to play a little and get to put the wet stuff on the red stuff...
actually the hill was in one of our videos... if u did watch our vids...the train horn on the attack was sounding like - - - - --- -- ------ --- - - --- --. very fast and the other junior who join 4 days ago didnt know what that ment..
@station234Jr What difference does that make? I was a paid firefighter and am a SFD Honorary Fire Chief and presently a vol. firefighter/emb-b. They got a fully involved house fire out in 9 minutes or less. How much time would you have shaved off that? Do you have any videos of fires that demonstrate your company's surperior firefighting skills on YouTube? By the way, how long have you been a firefighter?
@zaffdoc yes type in station 234 in the search box. ive been a junior for 4 months and learned from a chief with 23 years experience. 21 years drivin and pumpin trucks...all though until i heard the air horns blown at around 1:45 i forgot that ment to charge the lines so...this video wasnt a total loss for me :)
@station234Jr Well, I am glad it wasn't a total loss for you. I typed in Station 234 and only found a couple of music fire videos with rigs responding and a few really good working fires, but did not see any firefighting techniques. Perhaps, I missed them.
@station234Jr i actually just got back from my firehall and sure enuf ya kno them damn idiots who leave gas tanks with kerosene in them next to supposedly controled fires = brush fire...sure enuf i forgot my damn radio on the truck and i start hearing horns. if i wuddnt have watched the video the crew w8ing for me at the bottom of the hill wuddnt have had water. they wud have had to send some1 up a huge ass hill.
that was the worst reverse lay ive ever seen. they should have hooked up the truck at the hydrant and then foward layed it big mistake alot of valuable time wasted. the 5 inch should have been charged within 4 minutes of arriving on scene and the ladder truck is always parked infront of a structure fire...at 1:41 the reason those air horns is because thats the signal for water. there should be two people on a fire line one for support and the other for nozzle control.
That is a damn 5 inch line u idiot, im a firefighter. And the reason the other pumpers arent pumping to the one fighting the fire is bc the one pumpin is hooked to a hydrant with the 5 inch line.
yes it could have grown more which is why i said in the first comment i left that it was small, and if it could have grown then it not fully EVOLVED. check your definitions of involved and evolved. So as you just said it could have grown more so its not "totally involved" , or EVOLVED being the correct word usage.
GREAT JOB????? did any of you even watch the film from the stand point of a firefighter looking to see what else could be done? if you watch the film from the start you will see that they are still hooking up the 6inch supply, latter you will notice that there were two other pumpers there that not only never laid hose but also never pumped to the pumper that was laying water down.you talk one truck to the other. if second truck is close you start laying out water and second truck catches supply
@mikerobotics They had the 5 inch hose connected and they were dragging an additional 1 3/4 inch line. It was a GREAT JOB. I was there and I saw what happened. But it was not a perfect excecution for the rookies to see as the lead captain (U-boat captain) did not have his ppe on properly. I don't know what you are really saying, gut I guess your method would have knocked 10 minutes off the time it took them to put it out. BTW, They put it out in less than 9 minutes.
@SouthernFirefighterr That fire could have grown a great deal more if they would not have contained it. What fire reference book or fire instructor are you getting this information from?
thats a small structure fire. and the term involved is actualy suposed to be EVOLVED as fully evolved means the fire can no longer change state as it is at its fullest state and can do nothing else but die.
@SouthernFirefighterr What you are saying is that the first engine's officer is supposed to say to dispatch, "We have a fully evolved house fire." Doesn't sound right to me, but I take your word for it.
@zaffdoc you were right zaffdoc..when a house/car/ anything that is on fire is "totally on fire" it is reffered to fully involved as in completly on fire
@zaffdoc i will send you a link to what a fully involved fire looks like "my hometown one, halfway between NAPS station one and BVFD station 1. i was BVFD station 1"
@silenceisaweapon101 How can it vary? No matter where your from as long as we are talking about the english language totaly EVOLVED is the correct word usage. the definition of involved is-- connected by participation or association or use-- the definition of EVOLVED is-- undergo development or evolution or change in state or form; if the fire was totaly EVOLVED it could no longer grow it could only die
wating with an uncharged line feels like it takes FOREVER no doubt, but everyone is doing everything as fast as possible. Good kncok down considering the situation brothers!
Im hearing a fan, so is it safe to assume that it is what i saw at the front door of the house? I didnt think it would do too much to that house in that position. Great vid doc!
Nice job. But I would have dropped the hydrant line before going in. Amazing how different departments do things different. Why wait until you are out of water before you decide to pull a line to a hydrant?
You know, I watch a lot of these videos. I love them and try to learn from them. For the life of me, I don't understand why all these "brother" firefighters always talk so much shit about the department they are watching work. And the real smack-talkin' assholes always seem to have these macho screen names. Lol. You know who you are. Oh and I love the ones who talk trash when they have like one or two years on the job. Oh well. Keep safe......brothers.
@PopppaBlue59 Its the inherent mentality most young Firefighters go through early in their career as they try to focus on Firefighting techniques that don't go along with what they've learned in the Academy or Fire Essentials.They try too disprove others tactics and decisions, there by making themselves feel superior and adequate.Fortunately, experience and maturity soon takes over, and your left with a competent FF with a type A personality..
with as involved as this fire was when they got on scene this house could not have been saved no matter what they did... just containing it should be the goal... and getting some practice in
Not for nothing, but we do not know any details of the location. Rebel, that would be rule of thumb but we don't have any details on if there were a hydrant available. Could have been pulling the 5" to a tanker. All though I do see one major factor as far as fire spread. Maybe what could have been done is push the fire back to the already burned area. sometimes the easiest access isn't always the fastest or most effective way of extinguishing the fire.
Nice job on putting the fire out, my concern is the people who are not turned out next the the house no air, no SCBA and one red hat does not have his coat closed. Turn out properly or stay back. It is your lungs that will suffer! Nice job on the fire!!
I feel the first in engine should have just blitzed the stucture. The 1 3/4 were all knotted and doen't supply enough to do much on that fire load. Using the deck gun is rare these days, but very effective.
I hope these videos are posted to critique and compliment. I hate when people get all defensive, and also hate when other firemen act like their dept never makes mistakes. This dept does a great job organizationally, but i agree with the 2.5" attack line, and not with a combi nozzle! Smooth bore=big drops of water! Read articles by the late FDNY Andy Fredericks, or Denver FD Dave McGrail.
I think yalll did awsome quick and efficent, but i didnt like the guy at the begining with no SCBA, Gloves, Hood and with his coat un buttoned fighting fire. But besides that great job.
I have a few concerns... At 1:49, there was an evacuate the structure siren... WTF? Or were they just signaling defensive attack. And two, I think the 1 3/4 lines may have been a little tiny. That's what the big 2 1/2's are for. But good job on a quick attack. Nicely done overall.
At 1:49 or there abouts was not to evacuate, but the signal to the plugman to charge the 5 inch line. They got a totally involved house fire out in 9 minutes, so I guess what you are saying they could have got it out faster with a 2 1/2. Interesting.
Ahh I see. I don't know what department it is and what their protocol is but up north we use the three blasts as an evacuation signal. That is interesting you use that as a charge the line signal. Never heard of that but cool. And yes I personally would have liked to see 2 1/2 dropped but that is all situational dependent and department dependent. Good job of getting the fire out quick though and good job of still being masked up. Safety first.
The way the fire burns doesnt have much to do with arson. This fire coulda started from an outlet or a stripped power cord and the construction of the building was just really old and dry which would help in the process of burning fast. Insulation, carpet, and chemicals found in everyday homes will also make the fire intensify
many different ways to "skin a cat" My department has 750 gallons on every engine company. We make a rapid attack with tank water and the second due will catch the hydrant if needed. This was a nice stop on an obviously lost cause. My only concern is the officer grabbing the nozzle and actively firefighting with no air pack or gloves, or even his coat closed!! tsk tsk. OSHA, NIOSH and NFPA would all crush him had he been hurt. Poor leadership on that particular individual. Otherwise nice.
@mdjh51 at my dept our engine has 1200 gallons on board and if its confirmed we have fire showing the first in engine drops a tail at the end of the driveway so our thender can hook up and supply the engines
Firefighters RULE! I really appreciate everything they do. I want my parents to see this vid as they think I'm paranoid when I test our smoke detectors each month and last year bought new ones for each bedroom. I keep telling them that it's the law NOT to mention that a house can be fully involved like this in minutes. I don't think they believe me. I even had the fire department come to show me where to put the detectors!! They were amazing and took me seriously. What a concept! LOL :)
I live in Jonesboro, Ga, very rare do you hear of a fire truck going to REAL FIRE. Here in Ga, its more common for them to respond to bad car accidents. o_0
The Spatz hose couplings are pretty cool. I guess you did not read the comments about the what the SOP here is. The SFD has it fair share of structure fires.
sry dude....i just became kinda an ass hole workin city.......i havent heard SOP since i got done with Army boot camp....is that a common in ur department?
it just seemed like alot of engine company's for that little structure....but what do i know i run a structure fire every other week
Shreveport FD holds a Class 1, ISO rating and has maintained it since 1996. In order to maintain that ranking they must meet certain criteria like not running too few engines to a structure fire.
I just have one question... How come that guy that's first on the hoseline doesn't have an scba on but the guy behind him does?
Jbealexx13 2 weeks ago
Great video Doc and great job by those boys! I don't know how you deal with all these dumbass comments Doc! It's amazing what some of these people write and how fast they are to criticize what they don't know! I didn't have to read all these comments to see why they handjacked the LDH, it's just simply a solid Engineer on top of his game that's working a few steps ahead to expedite a water supply and take care of his boys on the line! Once again, great work and great video!! Take care Sir!!
johnnykATL 1 month ago
Wow, that thing is really going.. Nice catch..
NewAgeVideos 5 months ago
LDH...what's that?
peakster753 6 months ago
@peakster753 >>>---> LDH stands for Large Diameter Hose. LDH hoses are used to transport large volumes of water to fight a fire. Some of the LDHs are 5, 6, or 8 inch diameter. In this video they are using LDH with 5 inch diameter.
zaffdoc 6 months ago
@zaffdoc The volunteer dept I was with called this hose highvol
turnpiketrucker 1 month ago
Surprised the first engine didnt lay in, why handjack that 5 inch back down the road?
outlookfilmer 6 months ago
@outlookfilmer
What I am wondering. Maybe they had to back in? I have no clue.
mememe123xyz 6 months ago
@outlookfilmer >>>---> A totally involved house fire around lunch time on April 7, 2009 was handled by Shreveport Firefighters. 1st and 2nd due engine companies were out on other calls. Usual procedure is for 1st engine to start fire attack and 2nd to lay LDH and in this part of town the 500 gals on the pumping engine is enough until the line re-supplies the 1st engine
zaffdoc 6 months ago
@zaffdoc >>>---> . The 1st engine still had water, but the engineer decided not to take a chance and started laying the LDH because the special called engines were coming from from a long distance. Never the less the fire was extingurished in 9 minutes.
zaffdoc 6 months ago
Doc, Is Shrevport a combination dept?
coolsax64 9 months ago
@coolsax64 >>>---> Fully paid.
zaffdoc 8 months ago
What caused the fire ?.
dixiewife47 10 months ago
@dixiewife47 a flame about an inch tall...
93CFD 10 months ago
and i used to play with fire... wow..... wont even THINK about it anymore
Brutekiller147 10 months ago
well im only 13 and next month since im gonna be 14, i called trevose fire company and they said you have to be 14 years or older to volunteer as and active fire fighter and im gonna volunteer there because they pay four the fire training. the only thing the applicant pays is a $4.00 fee for a backround check!
skateskool100 10 months ago
@skateskool100 .
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Really what state has such messed up child labors law that it will let you be a fireman at 14 but not work at burger king. I bet Osha is all for a 14 year old kid playing in fire.
samten10a 8 months ago
@skateskool100 that just means you get to sweep the floors...
radvette20 7 months ago
how do u no about these fires all the time and their causes? are u a fire fighter? cause im soon going to be a volunteer with cornwells station 16 in bensalem pennsylvania
skateskool100 10 months ago
@skateskool100 >>>---> I am an old Vol FF and have been issued a fire dept radio and a pager.
zaffdoc 10 months ago
@zaffdoc oh so your basically like fire police
skateskool100 10 months ago
@zaffdoc oh so your basically like fire police also with the cornwells station 16 its changed to Trevose station 4
skateskool100 10 months ago
@skateskool100 >>>---> leave the police off and you are close.
zaffdoc 10 months ago
Doc, you always have awesome videos man. Once again, you have failed to disappoint :D
NC403Firefighter 11 months ago
nice training fire...
93CFD 11 months ago
that's horrible!! Did anyone die?
sashman3988 11 months ago
А магистралка то у буржуев миллиметров 125-150, как у нас всасывающие...
faraon100500 1 year ago
not saying i woulda done anything better its just a lot of things i was tought in ecentials tellls me these ppl did things rong
sgilman91 1 year ago
@sgilman91 how can you do better when you cant even spell "wrong" right....
toughguyv 1 year ago 2
was that a jr on the line
emcemcemcemc8189 1 year ago
@emcemcemcemc8189 >>>---> No
zaffdoc 1 year ago
goed job men
8rsrs 1 year ago
wow shirts untucked and unzipped veryy nicee =] lol
riot768 1 year ago
See where I am at that point, we bring in our Aerial Trucks and let them lose... As a Matter of fact we arrived on scene of a Fully involved house at 6:29 AM a couple of days ago and ended up using our Aerial Truck.
indyandyful 1 year ago
did they drive past the hydrant? unless they backed down that street i can't tell since he cut away but if they drove past it someone should teach them the easier way to lay LDH
freeportkid 1 year ago
@freeportkid You know to make a comment like that means you did not read about what happened. Do you ever read the other comments and the description of what took place before you make a comment?
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@zaffdoc notice me asking a question that is me admiting i'm not sure what happened thats why i was looking for an answer but i guess a smart ass reply will suffice
freeportkid 1 year ago
@freeportkid This fire was in the city with eng houses all around it, but the first 2 engs were out at other calls. The usual procedure is for the first company to start fire attack with pre-connects and 500 gals onboard and the 2nd eng to lay the LDH - At this location it is way before the water runs out, but the special called engines were coming from a long distance and while the pumping eng still had water the engineer started stretching the LDH just in case.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@zaffdoc thanks for the non smart ass comment i was just confused on why they were handjacking all that LDH becuase i've done it up hill before when we came down a hill the wrong direction and were already infront of the structure plus since i'm just a vollie and at a rather small station we have 2 engines but most of the time only 1 can respond cause we dont have enough people and all our mutal aid companies are a good distance away our pump truck is the same one that has to run the LDH
freeportkid 1 year ago
@freeportkid ---> That must be pretty rough when you catch a working fire and you are there alone for a long time before the MA cos. arrive. Don't say that you are "just a vollie" - Being a vol FF is great especially if you learn all you can and train as much as possible. I am proud to be a vol.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@zaffdoc a couple weeks ago we had a working fire at about 1:30am call came in as fully involved working fire we arrived on scene with about 11 people 1 engine we were there for atleast 10 to 20 minutes alone we had one fully involved structure the adjacent structure on the D side had it's C side almost totally gone it was up in the attic and on the B side of the main building it was starting to spread into the structure beside it i'll send you a link our ems took right before we arrived
freeportkid 1 year ago
@freeportkid I will be looking forward to see it. Thanks
zaffdoc 1 year ago
seeing a house on fiire is the craziest thing ive ever seen.
Celtic8781 1 year ago
Time for some master stream appliances.
k0smon 1 year ago
@k0smon No it’s not. It would have taken longer to setup master streams than it took them to get the fire out.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@zaffdoc The house is fully involved and to far gone.
Setting up the master streams would not have hampered any fire fightiing efforts.
NO ONE was going inside with that amount of fire.
The main thing was to prevent the spread of fire to any adjacent structures.
SURROUND & DROWN.
25mfd 1 year ago
thanks these are great sound effects:D
grapesoda4me420 1 year ago
@grapesoda4me420 You are welcome whatever you mean.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
I don't understand what you say they did wrong. They put the fire out in 9 mins I call that good. I mean I can see them having to stay for a hour or so after the check all the hot spots. But still they got it out!
lwithrow1318 1 year ago
hey great job but jw was that way out in the country for a late respond time or did that house just go up really really fast?
GILLETTEWILDHOCKEY 1 year ago
That was a good job they put the fire out, and no one got hurt. Thats the main goal on any fire scene.
supsup85 1 year ago
why would they rush to put out a house fire that is clearly out of control and not saveable, and no one was inside.. why risk a firefighters life for wood and a couple tvs that is already almost burnt to the ground. firefighter safety #1
jfb116 1 year ago
@jfb116
True, but containing the fire the also a priority, it could have became more out of control and caught more houses on fire. :)
rancheres07 1 year ago
firefight mean to put fire out, how, safely but put fire out so they did there jobs and nobody get hurt
muddinlarry 1 year ago
did they figure out what the cause of the fire was?
bunzy11 1 year ago
they did a great job
firefighter551 1 year ago
sorry to say but this company did a lot of things wrong
sgilman91 1 year ago
@sgilman91 What would you have done to get the fire out faster than they did?
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@zaffdoc I see they have fog nozzles and most of them are set on straight. To evoke a better cooling effect they could set their nozzles on a more narrow cone to increase the water-affected area. Nevertheless good job.
Niggo57 1 year ago
@zaffdoc well theres a lot of things that coulda made it a little more efficent but im not going into this because different companys do different things in different ways so if this is what they do then they did it right but from what we do it looks wrong and dangerous
sgilman91 4 months ago
@sgilman91 >>>---> By being more efficient I suppose your company would have gotten the fire out in less than 9 minutes. Suppose (where your are located) the first two engine companies due on this fire are not available because they were out on other calls. You are carrying 500 gals of water and even with the next engine further away than normal it should arrive in time to lay in the LDH to resupply your water.but it is delayed in traffic - What would your company do to be more efficient.
zaffdoc 4 months ago
@sgilman91 o so i guess your an all knowing firefighter who went to school for almost 5 years and learned everything there is to know right?
legoman6000 1 year ago
@sgilman91 agreed. not to be a safety nerd but how about that red hat on the line not wearing an SCBA
chips0987 1 year ago
@chips0987 That guy is Engine 5's Captain. He has been around a long time and knows more about firefighting than anyone, but I guess he is like an old "U-Boat Captain", they are going to do it their way or else. Oh, and you forgot to mention he did not have his coat buttoned and was using a non-SFD approved helmet. I think he gets a great deal of joy out of being a pain in the younger chief officers' asses.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
No wather. 5-6 persons just standing there, watching the fire.. Firemen are not as cool as you think.
tgjolga 1 year ago
@tgjolga Do you ever bother to read the other comments? They got the fricking fire out in lest than 9 minutes. I was there and it was pretty impressive what they did.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@zaffdoc
Notice after you comment, they NEVER reply back. Shreveport Fire Dept. is AWESOME.
rancheres07 1 year ago
@tgjolga Ya and when you pull up to a house so fully involed ......what are you saving really?...... everyone can point bad things out Good job guys!
spunkymonky7 1 year ago
First of all is called "WATER" not "wather". second of all its a practice fire and there training you idolt! and third of all if your not a fire men and you know nothing about them. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
steelcross07 1 year ago
@tgjolga shut the fuck up. id like to see you put a stick out...
legoman6000 1 year ago
WOW
hoithoi100 1 year ago
Great video.
goheels0809champs 1 year ago
Are these guys kidding me!? How about going inside and putting the fire out.
SPEEDfreakz60 1 year ago
@SPEEDfreakz60 The video starts off with the house a total loss. Why on earth would a competent Fire Officer even consider sending men in.
This is a stand around and visit with each other fire.Let the young guys and rookies play firemen.
hotpig27 1 year ago
was anybody kill?
crazyislandergirl 1 year ago
Class b uniforms are what my fire department wears to a parade or a sponserd event and the guy taking out the hose line was wearing what looked like in my fire department a class b uniform so calm down bud it was just a question
ShowUsYourTDs 1 year ago
@ShowUsYourTDs Oh, that explains that. Yeah the question you asked was, "Where you going to a parade or something." That was kind of smart ass wasn't it? You can see a house burning like crazy in the background, so I guess you thought they were going to a parade because they did not have on their turnouts.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
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ShowUsYourTDs 1 year ago
@ShowUsYourTDs Are you talking about the engine and the ladder truck drivers? They don't generally bunker out until they get on the scene and besides I don't know what you mean by Class B uniform since those were their work clothes. Gee, can't you all just watch the video without criticising everything? That was a stupid smart ass statement, "Were you going to a parade or something." Jesus!
zaffdoc 1 year ago 3
Fact there is no video out there if a actual fire where everything happens like it would in a text book. that said my earlier comment was directed at a different film and i dont know how it got on this one. these guys did good. also 6inch hose is this not common elsewhere
mikerobotics 1 year ago
how many hand lines does it take to put out a simple trash fire???really guys,,, were you looking at this as a training fire??? if so, thats ok cause everyone got to play a little and get to put the wet stuff on the red stuff...
93CFD 1 year ago
actually the hill was in one of our videos... if u did watch our vids...the train horn on the attack was sounding like - - - - --- -- ------ --- - - --- --. very fast and the other junior who join 4 days ago didnt know what that ment..
station234Jr 1 year ago
@station234Jr I must have missed it. send me the url to it.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
Regardless....it was a ice hustle by some, but wasted on a lost cause.
rmls34 1 year ago
@rmls34 How was it a lost cause?
zaffdoc 1 year ago
ok i understand they werent avalible. but they should have been more prepared.. r u even a firefighter?
station234Jr 1 year ago
@station234Jr What difference does that make? I was a paid firefighter and am a SFD Honorary Fire Chief and presently a vol. firefighter/emb-b. They got a fully involved house fire out in 9 minutes or less. How much time would you have shaved off that? Do you have any videos of fires that demonstrate your company's surperior firefighting skills on YouTube? By the way, how long have you been a firefighter?
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@zaffdoc yes type in station 234 in the search box. ive been a junior for 4 months and learned from a chief with 23 years experience. 21 years drivin and pumpin trucks...all though until i heard the air horns blown at around 1:45 i forgot that ment to charge the lines so...this video wasnt a total loss for me :)
station234Jr 1 year ago
@station234Jr Well, I am glad it wasn't a total loss for you. I typed in Station 234 and only found a couple of music fire videos with rigs responding and a few really good working fires, but did not see any firefighting techniques. Perhaps, I missed them.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@station234Jr i actually just got back from my firehall and sure enuf ya kno them damn idiots who leave gas tanks with kerosene in them next to supposedly controled fires = brush fire...sure enuf i forgot my damn radio on the truck and i start hearing horns. if i wuddnt have watched the video the crew w8ing for me at the bottom of the hill wuddnt have had water. they wud have had to send some1 up a huge ass hill.
station234Jr 1 year ago
@station234Jr LOL, I bet if one of the crew members had to climb that hill to turn on the water, he would have really been pissed.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
that was the worst reverse lay ive ever seen. they should have hooked up the truck at the hydrant and then foward layed it big mistake alot of valuable time wasted. the 5 inch should have been charged within 4 minutes of arriving on scene and the ladder truck is always parked infront of a structure fire...at 1:41 the reason those air horns is because thats the signal for water. there should be two people on a fire line one for support and the other for nozzle control.
station234Jr 1 year ago
@station234Jr I really don't mind criticism , but at least read the description and the comments before you make such an asinine comment.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@zaffdoc doesn't make a difference they should have been more prepared and trained better. the point is they got it out...barely.
station234Jr 1 year ago
@station234Jr Obviously you did not read the pertinent comments and description.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
WAS THIS A DRILL KRILL
sk8rdude394 1 year ago
@sk8rdude394 Are you serious?
zaffdoc 1 year ago
4 charged lines on the ground no one putting water in the fir
prsobotka 1 year ago
@prsobotka Oh yeah! I guess the fire went out in less than 9 minutes by itself. Geez Us!!!!
zaffdoc 1 year ago
That is a damn 5 inch line u idiot, im a firefighter. And the reason the other pumpers arent pumping to the one fighting the fire is bc the one pumpin is hooked to a hydrant with the 5 inch line.
rjizzle1992 1 year ago
yes it could have grown more which is why i said in the first comment i left that it was small, and if it could have grown then it not fully EVOLVED. check your definitions of involved and evolved. So as you just said it could have grown more so its not "totally involved" , or EVOLVED being the correct word usage.
SouthernFirefighterr 1 year ago
GREAT JOB????? did any of you even watch the film from the stand point of a firefighter looking to see what else could be done? if you watch the film from the start you will see that they are still hooking up the 6inch supply, latter you will notice that there were two other pumpers there that not only never laid hose but also never pumped to the pumper that was laying water down.you talk one truck to the other. if second truck is close you start laying out water and second truck catches supply
mikerobotics 1 year ago
@mikerobotics They had the 5 inch hose connected and they were dragging an additional 1 3/4 inch line. It was a GREAT JOB. I was there and I saw what happened. But it was not a perfect excecution for the rookies to see as the lead captain (U-boat captain) did not have his ppe on properly. I don't know what you are really saying, gut I guess your method would have knocked 10 minutes off the time it took them to put it out. BTW, They put it out in less than 9 minutes.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@mikerobotics 6 inch supply line??? WHAT!?
FirefighterEmt4Life 1 year ago
evolve means to under go change, so being fully evolved means that the fire can no longer evolve to grow larger only die.
SouthernFirefighterr 1 year ago
@SouthernFirefighterr That fire could have grown a great deal more if they would not have contained it. What fire reference book or fire instructor are you getting this information from?
zaffdoc 1 year ago
thats a small structure fire. and the term involved is actualy suposed to be EVOLVED as fully evolved means the fire can no longer change state as it is at its fullest state and can do nothing else but die.
SouthernFirefighterr 1 year ago
@SouthernFirefighterr What you are saying is that the first engine's officer is supposed to say to dispatch, "We have a fully evolved house fire." Doesn't sound right to me, but I take your word for it.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@zaffdoc you were right zaffdoc..when a house/car/ anything that is on fire is "totally on fire" it is reffered to fully involved as in completly on fire
mortonfiredept 1 year ago
@zaffdoc i will send you a link to what a fully involved fire looks like "my hometown one, halfway between NAPS station one and BVFD station 1. i was BVFD station 1"
mikerobotics 1 year ago
@SouthernFirefighterr It could also vary depending on where you're from.
silenceisaweapon101 1 year ago
@silenceisaweapon101 How can it vary? No matter where your from as long as we are talking about the english language totaly EVOLVED is the correct word usage. the definition of involved is-- connected by participation or association or use-- the definition of EVOLVED is-- undergo development or evolution or change in state or form; if the fire was totaly EVOLVED it could no longer grow it could only die
SouthernFirefighterr 1 year ago
wating with an uncharged line feels like it takes FOREVER no doubt, but everyone is doing everything as fast as possible. Good kncok down considering the situation brothers!
jamesff151 1 year ago
@ 2:20 the guy need to learn how to pak up safely solo?
TheCbont 1 year ago
Im hearing a fan, so is it safe to assume that it is what i saw at the front door of the house? I didnt think it would do too much to that house in that position. Great vid doc!
CTFD13 1 year ago
@CTFD13 yes there was a fan near the front door, but it was never put into use. That sound you heard was probably from the engines running.
ppi35trk 1 year ago
Nice job. But I would have dropped the hydrant line before going in. Amazing how different departments do things different. Why wait until you are out of water before you decide to pull a line to a hydrant?
spiritwind1005 1 year ago
man that was an exelent job. i love seeing the teamwork and i have never seen a fire that involved be knocked down that fast.
rsizemore12 1 year ago
A large fire put out in 4 minutes. Quite good.
AWDracer 1 year ago
@AWDracer It was more like 9 minutes.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
awesome vid
rbrandtleek 1 year ago
That can be fixed.
smcrmgBESTFRIENDS 1 year ago
You know, I watch a lot of these videos. I love them and try to learn from them. For the life of me, I don't understand why all these "brother" firefighters always talk so much shit about the department they are watching work. And the real smack-talkin' assholes always seem to have these macho screen names. Lol. You know who you are. Oh and I love the ones who talk trash when they have like one or two years on the job. Oh well. Keep safe......brothers.
PopppaBlue59 1 year ago
@PopppaBlue59 Ya reallly...where did the brotherhood go these days..sigh
JoshyBallz4 1 year ago
@PopppaBlue59 Its the inherent mentality most young Firefighters go through early in their career as they try to focus on Firefighting techniques that don't go along with what they've learned in the Academy or Fire Essentials.They try too disprove others tactics and decisions, there by making themselves feel superior and adequate.Fortunately, experience and maturity soon takes over, and your left with a competent FF with a type A personality..
Lieutenant7b 2 months ago
@paraawesome Yes. Read my profile.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
alot of people standin around...
gali4436 1 year ago
with as involved as this fire was when they got on scene this house could not have been saved no matter what they did... just containing it should be the goal... and getting some practice in
bl2andie 1 year ago
Not for nothing, but we do not know any details of the location. Rebel, that would be rule of thumb but we don't have any details on if there were a hydrant available. Could have been pulling the 5" to a tanker. All though I do see one major factor as far as fire spread. Maybe what could have been done is push the fire back to the already burned area. sometimes the easiest access isn't always the fastest or most effective way of extinguishing the fire.
No1TruexFan 1 year ago
yeah unpreped turnout.
thresher4 1 year ago
what kept fueling that fire? havent seen one like that for a while. Great video. keep it up!
kissfanjohn 2 years ago
i thought you grabbed a plug before you got there so you would not have to drag all the hose down the street?
rebelandsmokefan 2 years ago
looks like they brought a knife to a gun fight.
Emt3933 2 years ago
the the pump on that truck hook right into the 5 in storz connection or did you have to hook the 5in to 5in storz adapter?
HBFD14 2 years ago
oh i fell bad someone lived there with all there stuff burning
legostarwars903 2 years ago
Nice job on putting the fire out, my concern is the people who are not turned out next the the house no air, no SCBA and one red hat does not have his coat closed. Turn out properly or stay back. It is your lungs that will suffer! Nice job on the fire!!
Firenoid5 2 years ago
I feel the first in engine should have just blitzed the stucture. The 1 3/4 were all knotted and doen't supply enough to do much on that fire load. Using the deck gun is rare these days, but very effective.
MGoose707 2 years ago
I hope these videos are posted to critique and compliment. I hate when people get all defensive, and also hate when other firemen act like their dept never makes mistakes. This dept does a great job organizationally, but i agree with the 2.5" attack line, and not with a combi nozzle! Smooth bore=big drops of water! Read articles by the late FDNY Andy Fredericks, or Denver FD Dave McGrail.
87KIDCROSBY 2 years ago
in a lot of fire vids i see the people are slow but these really moved quickly. The house is fully involved anyway..
garycalgary 2 years ago
I think yalll did awsome quick and efficent, but i didnt like the guy at the begining with no SCBA, Gloves, Hood and with his coat un buttoned fighting fire. But besides that great job.
HCVFD564 2 years ago
nice job
E064 2 years ago
I have a few concerns... At 1:49, there was an evacuate the structure siren... WTF? Or were they just signaling defensive attack. And two, I think the 1 3/4 lines may have been a little tiny. That's what the big 2 1/2's are for. But good job on a quick attack. Nicely done overall.
Sweeper1426 2 years ago
At 1:49 or there abouts was not to evacuate, but the signal to the plugman to charge the 5 inch line. They got a totally involved house fire out in 9 minutes, so I guess what you are saying they could have got it out faster with a 2 1/2. Interesting.
zaffdoc 2 years ago
Ahh I see. I don't know what department it is and what their protocol is but up north we use the three blasts as an evacuation signal. That is interesting you use that as a charge the line signal. Never heard of that but cool. And yes I personally would have liked to see 2 1/2 dropped but that is all situational dependent and department dependent. Good job of getting the fire out quick though and good job of still being masked up. Safety first.
Sweeper1426 2 years ago
My schoolmate died at 3pm in a house fire so im trying to find the news that he was in since i missed out.
R.I.P Tim Devoight.
KataChampion 2 years ago
the guy with his shirt all out in the beggining is LOLtastic! =]
riot768 2 years ago
Was this an arson fire? Looks like it burn awfully fast and hot!
bigbadredsox 2 years ago
The way the fire burns doesnt have much to do with arson. This fire coulda started from an outlet or a stripped power cord and the construction of the building was just really old and dry which would help in the process of burning fast. Insulation, carpet, and chemicals found in everyday homes will also make the fire intensify
LennyMocambo 2 years ago
many different ways to "skin a cat" My department has 750 gallons on every engine company. We make a rapid attack with tank water and the second due will catch the hydrant if needed. This was a nice stop on an obviously lost cause. My only concern is the officer grabbing the nozzle and actively firefighting with no air pack or gloves, or even his coat closed!! tsk tsk. OSHA, NIOSH and NFPA would all crush him had he been hurt. Poor leadership on that particular individual. Otherwise nice.
mdjh51 2 years ago
@mdjh51 at my dept our engine has 1200 gallons on board and if its confirmed we have fire showing the first in engine drops a tail at the end of the driveway so our thender can hook up and supply the engines
volff130 1 year ago
lol, at 0:47
luckysod04 2 years ago
Firefighters RULE! I really appreciate everything they do. I want my parents to see this vid as they think I'm paranoid when I test our smoke detectors each month and last year bought new ones for each bedroom. I keep telling them that it's the law NOT to mention that a house can be fully involved like this in minutes. I don't think they believe me. I even had the fire department come to show me where to put the detectors!! They were amazing and took me seriously. What a concept! LOL :)
wis7dom 2 years ago 2
Awesome job by the firefighters...
chess9121 2 years ago 8
1 day before my b-day. what was the cause
KillerStewie1 2 years ago
a flame about an inch tall...
93CFD 2 years ago
great work gents =D got it out damn quick
collin341 2 years ago
Great firefighters. Rushing to put out a fully involved house fire and still have the courtesy to say hello.
Timmeh98837 2 years ago 10
great job guys...
93CFD 2 years ago
at that stage u may as well just let the place burn 2 the ground... cheaper 2 demo hehe.. sweet work tho...
urastar22 2 years ago
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edgelyfire10 2 years ago
Good fast work from the D/O.
3Engine2 2 years ago
o my god omg crazy
GUS20054 2 years ago
omg
GUS20054 2 years ago
I live in Jonesboro, Ga, very rare do you hear of a fire truck going to REAL FIRE. Here in Ga, its more common for them to respond to bad car accidents. o_0
TheNopiracer 2 years ago
i freaking love thos spatz couplings
and y not just do a foward lay?
you guys dont go on very many structure fires do you?
FireFighterrock24 2 years ago
The Spatz hose couplings are pretty cool. I guess you did not read the comments about the what the SOP here is. The SFD has it fair share of structure fires.
zaffdoc 2 years ago
sry dude....i just became kinda an ass hole workin city.......i havent heard SOP since i got done with Army boot camp....is that a common in ur department?
it just seemed like alot of engine company's for that little structure....but what do i know i run a structure fire every other week
FireFighterrock24 2 years ago
Shreveport FD holds a Class 1, ISO rating and has maintained it since 1996. In order to maintain that ranking they must meet certain criteria like not running too few engines to a structure fire.
zaffdoc 2 years ago
@zaffdoc Hey r u a firefighter or a fire buff?
paraawesome 1 year ago
@paraawesome Both. Read my profile.
zaffdoc 1 year ago
@FireFighterrock24 which department are you with?
enigmedic 1 year ago