@Hondaridr58 yeah its pretty sweet and very precise from what I remember. You even get an auto-run up button that tests the props, rpms, and both FADEC channels. Thielert is the manufacturer of the engine.
@Hondaridr58 Diesel engines work differently. The throttle directly controls the amount of fuel that goes into the cylinders, and it has no control whatsoever on restricting the amount of air going in. As a result, diesels are always running with a very lean mixture. The only time they run at stoichiometric ratio is at full throttle. Thus, there is no mixture control. The FADEC is there only to fine-tune injection timing and to limit the throttle at higher altitudes to prevent too rich mixture.
@docrw actually they are done in lots of places the flight school in florida I used to work at was contracted by thielhert to install them, I think they did bonanzas as well cant remember
wow i flew this aircraft when i was at ADF airways when i was doing my training (N9526q). Awesome aircraft, i like it better then the cirrus sr-20 i've flown. I wonder if the airplane is still there?
Kwl! not there anymore as far as i know, i graduated on 2006 and by the end of 2005 it needed the engine replacement by thielhert and was parked waiting... wonder if its flying now, regards
sigh.... This is a retrofit with a THIELERT engine, you can look at the FADEC controls on the panel...... I flew that plane during my commercial training, now flying A320, refreshing :-) ,,,, thanks for commenting and for the info omnipilot take care
FADEC applies to engines that use mixture control (Gas piston) and condition (turboprop, pure jet). Diesels don't rely on stoichiometry (Fuel/air ratio); merely advancement of injection timing into the cylinders. They can put out full power at higher altitudes, whereas gas engines keep petering out with altitude and thinner air.
I would like to correct you on that statement about how diesels work. First off, diesels do rely on mixture becauseincreasing the power is just adding more fuel, that's how diesels work. The timing stays the same. Also, they do lose power at higher altitudes because there is less air for combustion.
Not entirely true. It is a known fact that diesels put out their rated power at higher altitudes than gasoline engines; gas engines begin petering out at 2,000 feet. Diesels get more RPMs through advancing the injection timing, not just 'adding more fuel'. I get my information from Thielert...where do you get yours?
The engine is a inline 4 and is based on a mercedes car diesel. It is a four stroke engine that produces only 130 hp but more torque than the lyc. The tbr was established by the manufactuer because the engine needs some in service time. Replacement is the same cost as overhaul because most of the parts need replacement anyway.
Negative; Thielert 2 litre turbo-diesel which produces 150 horses and gives 130 knots. Cessna now offers it. The inline 4 you may be talking about is probably an experimental. A Milwaukee company is also experimenting with their own inverted V4. BTW...the diesels used are all 2-stroke.
Thielert, right? I understand it's a 2-stroke inverted V-4. Turbo? The best part is that they keep putting out power well into high altitudes, from what I read. An O-320 can't do that! What I hate: The FAA here insists on diesels being replaced (TBR) instead of overhauled (TBO). You can't say we're being not sullied by the gasoline lobby here!
This one is not a turbine engine, it is a jet fuel/kerosene piston engine. It has a turbocharger and it runs on JET-A fuel or diesel. Spends 4,8 gal per hour at 75% RPM and JET-A fuel is cheaper than AVGAS so compared to a normal 172 it's the cost of operation is lower and you can fly up to 6 hours.
@serobusi Just throttle up and go, huh? Sounds like a dream!
Hondaridr58 11 months ago
@Hondaridr58 yeah its pretty sweet and very precise from what I remember. You even get an auto-run up button that tests the props, rpms, and both FADEC channels. Thielert is the manufacturer of the engine.
serobusi 11 months ago
Was there no mixture control, or am I just not seeing it?
Hondaridr58 1 year ago
@Hondaridr58 Diesel engines work differently. The throttle directly controls the amount of fuel that goes into the cylinders, and it has no control whatsoever on restricting the amount of air going in. As a result, diesels are always running with a very lean mixture. The only time they run at stoichiometric ratio is at full throttle. Thus, there is no mixture control. The FADEC is there only to fine-tune injection timing and to limit the throttle at higher altitudes to prevent too rich mixture.
FlyGuy2480 9 months ago
the diesel conversions are done in Texas....
docrw 1 year ago
@docrw actually they are done in lots of places the flight school in florida I used to work at was contracted by thielhert to install them, I think they did bonanzas as well cant remember
v6greenfbird95 1 year ago
Is that in TX?
justme228 2 years ago
FL, year 2005 thanks for watching
serobusi 2 years ago
Very Nice and good to see cessna 172 flying
High attitude and don't need oxygine.
Adeerka1
Adeerka1 2 years ago
wow i flew this aircraft when i was at ADF airways when i was doing my training (N9526q). Awesome aircraft, i like it better then the cirrus sr-20 i've flown. I wonder if the airplane is still there?
rauviz 2 years ago
Kwl! not there anymore as far as i know, i graduated on 2006 and by the end of 2005 it needed the engine replacement by thielhert and was parked waiting... wonder if its flying now, regards
serobusi 2 years ago
@rauviz Not there anymore they "retired" it before i graduated.
serobusi 11 months ago
I'd go with a Cat C15. LOL!!!
kdraper2007 2 years ago
What kind of engine is this? Centurion or SMA?
DiegoCookie 2 years ago
Thielhert
serobusi 2 years ago
@DiegoCookie SMA is only STC authorized for the 182 R & Q models only
LawProfessor1971 1 year ago
n-number look up says this is a 182s
with a lycoming,ouf of deleware..
omnipilot 2 years ago
sigh.... This is a retrofit with a THIELERT engine, you can look at the FADEC controls on the panel...... I flew that plane during my commercial training, now flying A320, refreshing :-) ,,,, thanks for commenting and for the info omnipilot take care
serobusi 2 years ago
i like the digital tach.. never seen one of those in a 172R before...
what other info does it give you?
bgrassguy17 2 years ago
impossible in a lyco because the engine will flame out.
MetalUpYourAss4life 2 years ago
Is it any quieter inside the cockpit than a standard gasoline powered Skyhawk? (I heard that the diesel engine Maule was quiet ride).
GeneralSirDouglasMcA 3 years ago
Whats the performance like on that thing?
mithat87 4 years ago
Fadec w/single throttle engine control....nice!!!!
jarroyolaw 4 years ago
FADEC applies to engines that use mixture control (Gas piston) and condition (turboprop, pure jet). Diesels don't rely on stoichiometry (Fuel/air ratio); merely advancement of injection timing into the cylinders. They can put out full power at higher altitudes, whereas gas engines keep petering out with altitude and thinner air.
SenorSpode 4 years ago
I would like to correct you on that statement about how diesels work. First off, diesels do rely on mixture becauseincreasing the power is just adding more fuel, that's how diesels work. The timing stays the same. Also, they do lose power at higher altitudes because there is less air for combustion.
n33d4killz 2 years ago
Not entirely true. It is a known fact that diesels put out their rated power at higher altitudes than gasoline engines; gas engines begin petering out at 2,000 feet. Diesels get more RPMs through advancing the injection timing, not just 'adding more fuel'. I get my information from Thielert...where do you get yours?
SenorSpode 2 years ago
diesel eh
testdrive381 4 years ago
The engine is a inline 4 and is based on a mercedes car diesel. It is a four stroke engine that produces only 130 hp but more torque than the lyc. The tbr was established by the manufactuer because the engine needs some in service time. Replacement is the same cost as overhaul because most of the parts need replacement anyway.
kingair81r 4 years ago 2
Negative; Thielert 2 litre turbo-diesel which produces 150 horses and gives 130 knots. Cessna now offers it. The inline 4 you may be talking about is probably an experimental. A Milwaukee company is also experimenting with their own inverted V4. BTW...the diesels used are all 2-stroke.
SenorSpode 4 years ago
The thielert diesel is an inline 4 same engine that is in the diamond twinstar
kingair81r 3 years ago
Thielert, right? I understand it's a 2-stroke inverted V-4. Turbo? The best part is that they keep putting out power well into high altitudes, from what I read. An O-320 can't do that! What I hate: The FAA here insists on diesels being replaced (TBR) instead of overhauled (TBO). You can't say we're being not sullied by the gasoline lobby here!
SenorSpode 4 years ago
4.8 gph ??? wow how many horsepower? i wonder why there aren't more of these around
sicchevelle8 4 years ago
Love the Negative G's
morrisonak 4 years ago
prrs like a kitten
nice vid
alex989 4 years ago
So, is this a conversion? what is the overall cost of the conversion and does it pay off, how long would the spread be?
Thanks,
Dale
N8IWS 4 years ago
Love the throttle control!
millz311 4 years ago
Does it cost alot to run on turbine engines?
jsyoo 5 years ago
This one is not a turbine engine, it is a jet fuel/kerosene piston engine. It has a turbocharger and it runs on JET-A fuel or diesel. Spends 4,8 gal per hour at 75% RPM and JET-A fuel is cheaper than AVGAS so compared to a normal 172 it's the cost of operation is lower and you can fly up to 6 hours.
serobusi 5 years ago
Haha cool. Sounds so different. And that digital tach looks sweet.
burningcow422 5 years ago
quiet engine !
vasvas2 5 years ago
what model engine is that?
therealsnow 5 years ago
It's a Thielert TAE 125 model. Thanks for posting!
serobusi 5 years ago