@ascendead1 You are totally correct. The C-17 seen up close is nothing more than a gay joke. They even remove their yokes so it looks like they have 2 dicks that they fly with. This country is run by insane faggots who always lie and produce nothing positive except for faggots in the Marines.
Ok today we have darling little a400m and his mother C-130 on the show to find out who the father is. Both C-5 and the C-17 say they will step up and be a father if in fact the child is theirs. We'll be right back with the results. Stay tuned!
Are you idiots crazy? what do i expect from a bunch of bloody yankees!
@davetileguy. the C17 was one of the biggest failures in aviation history. it is slow, it guzzles gas and it is unreliable. why do you think c-130 hercules can be found on every continent, but not C-17 or C-5s? they are used by the USAF because they have to buy american. M-400 a copy? rtead the specs you morons.
Are you idiots crazy? what do i expect from a bunch of bloody yankees!
@Simon-hairass. the C17 was one of the biggest failures in aviation history. it is slow, it guzzles gas and it is unreliable. why do you think c-130 hercules can be found on every continent, but not C-17 or C-5s? they are used by the USAF because they have to buy american. M-400 a copy? rtead the specs you morons.
Are you idiots crazy? what do i expect from a bunch of bloody yankees!
@Simon-hairass. the C17 was one of the biggest failures in aviation history. it is slow, it guzzles gas and it is unreliable. why do you think c-130 hercules can be found on every continent, but not C-17 or C-5s? they are used by the USAF because they have to buy american.
i notice the flags of the nation who are ordering this outstanding military transport plane,yet i dont see the us in there,after all this plane would be a good replacement for the aging C1-30 hercules witch is now obsolete ,witch should be retired out of service,i mean the C-17 globemaster is great in all ,but its a heavy transport for pet'esake ,what we need medium transport just like the venerable and legendary C1-30 hercules,sooo i want every ones opinion on this.
@tragkfshnt The Hercules was just released in a new updated configuration with state of the art systems, known as the C-130J. It's easier to to do that than it would be to update all of our heavy lift bases with the necessary equipment to service an aircraft we have never had to service before, the A400M.
Look up C-130J Super Hercules on you'll see what I mean. It's good stuff.
wow airbus way to make an original design. They were like "Hey we can just take the C-17 and take the engines off and replace them with props! Its brilliant!" bunch of idiots. Boeing is where its at
can anyone tell me why they use what seems to me old fashioned prop engines, and not powerful jet engines? I mean we never see big commercial planes with propeller engines today, like they didn't put that on A380.
Turboprop-powered aircraft require are able to take off and land on shorter runways than jet-powered equivalents, which is an attribute that you'd want in a military transport plane. Also, turboprops allow for better handling and flying characteristics at lower speeds than jet aircraft, and are more maneuverable at lower speeds.
@callehopp If I had to guess its probably because of fuel, Airbus might want to bring a C130 like modern aircraft into the market. This Plane seems to be a C-17 with Prop engines to me I know its not though. Also maint. on a turbo-fan vs turbo-prop is drastic in cost as well as maneuverability. Militaries around the world always look at ability, durability, capacity, possibilities and of course cost, I think this is a magnificent plane and would like to see it compared to the C-17 or the C-130.
Those things are built along the specifications of the countries which order them, not because Airbus thinks that there is a market for. Germany / France / GB wanted a tactical transport plane with turboprop engines and a certain payload. The most important advantages of turboprops are their excellent short takeoff and landing capabilities and durability while operating on unprepared airstrips.
@callehopp Kind shmind your question embarrasses you as a human . SO because you see a prop that tells you the engine? If a car has wheels does that means it has a Gas engine,Electric ,Hydrogen or Diesel? get it? the wheels or in this case the "propeller" has nothing to do with what it's attached to.
IF the 400 hits the market ,it's a fat cow that's 12 TONS over weight ,that's a serious design miscalculation which means it has other bugs, it's over budget and the Germans don't want it because it won't carry their lightweight tank ,Italy and Canada dropped their orders, and finally SCAREBUS had to ASK Lockheed Martin for technical specs and help!!!!!!!! wow that's sad !!! USA IS KING Boeing or Lockeed can do what 6 countries together cannot!!!
@blablubb12345 Try Google or Wiki,my point is that's an OLD design imagine if scarebus had to make the Space Shuttle or B-1 or B-2 or SR-71,DEATH BY CONSENSUS !!!
What makes it an "old design" in your opinion? The carbon fiber wing or fuselage, the FBW system, it's flight performance? How would you design a tactical airlifter?
@davetileguy Absolute BS, i've never heard such rubbish, do you think that everyone who works at Boeing or Lockheed is American because if you do then you are retarded
@TheSimonHarris Pretty much all American certainly a higher ratio than scarebus,America is the melting pot not England France or Germany. The 400 is just a C-17 copy.
@davetileguy This is partly true, although like so many other Americans your patriotism seems to inhibit your ability to make a balanced argument. There are no doubt 10's of 1000's of people in the 3rd world who, given the opportunities, could design and build a aircraft superior to the C-17. Just because someone is lucky enough to be born into a society that allows them to fulfil their potential doesn't mean they are better people. Yours and so many other Americans arrogance is unbelievable!
@TheSimonHarris What can I say the US rules in so many ways and I don't mean militarily ,'the people in the 3rd world can hardly govern themselves or even mass produce a car! much less a high tech plane. Quite frankly our accomplishments in only 250 years is unprecedented and worth a little arrogance.Socialism is what kills ideas ,drive and innovation and that is one battle we may not win
@ellebal1111 True enough,but tell me what do you believe you really know about Sarah P. ?? Canadian Socialism I'm sure is truly honest by the state media ,do you fear strong women? women who shoot guns? outspoken women ? or any woman smarter or in a higher position than yourself? (I'm not trying to egg you on)
So without using adjectives like "dumb " and "stupid" (A childs vocab) clearly outline you disagreements. (P.S. I like her but not for president)
@davetileguy Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for women, and hope we get more of them in politics and CEO's...having said that, Sarah Palin does not have my respect, she manipulate simple minded Americans by telling them what they want to hear, (mostly right wing religious bible belt) her claim she had foreign experience while vice president contender by saying she could see Russia from where she was in Alaska and that Putin was flying over her state was over the top!
@ellebal1111 For all practical purposes and more so than any state you can see Russia from Alaska, The Distant Early Warning Line, is located there as part of our National Defense.Who is the Commander in Chief of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard? Sarhra Palin....What U.S. governor is routinely briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counter terrorism?
@ellebal1111 What U.S. governor has a higher classified security rating than the Presidential candidate of the Democrat Party? She did not say Putin was flying over her state she was speaking figuratively of how close Al. is to Russia. Now the fact that you and most of the world can't look that up for yourself is pathetic and a larger symptom of a virus called ignorance that is running rampant around the world.Once again I am not a S.P. fan but an honest person.
@TheSimonHarris I do agree with you that a lot of Americans are arrogant. Yes we are not very well rounded. However, not just anybody from any country can design an aircraft superior to c17 if opertunity was givien. when it comes to the air and the ocean the US has dominated the last 100yrs and will continue to dominate for another generation. If we weren't excellent when in comes to planes then how come we don't have foreign planes in our militry inventory. englad, france, australia, turkey
are all developed nations, how come they are using american aircrafts. Now u have japan, saudia and other countries saying that they changed their mind about eurofighter. They want to purchase the f22 instead. A lot of ppl like to speak negative about America's aicraft industry, yet, the majority of the aircrafts they have in their country are american aircrafts. If i'm wrong about anything i said then u are more then welcomed to prove me wrong sir.
@kirbyroxy Thats why the USAF uses the C-17. The C-130 is still in use and will still be in use for some time to come because the C-130 is a model that has many variants and more than exceeds any AF standards. That..... and its able to land on aircraft carriers.
@Eversman1 >"That..... and its able to land on aircraft carriers."
LOL! That only happened ONCE and you make it out to be some sort of "routine" capability. Hell, it wasn't even the USAF that pulled-off that stunt, and you make it out to be some sort of reason the USAF "still has it in use". Gawd I love how the interwebz lets out the idiots on display.
@RingSight91 I never said they use it as a routine and I didn't try to make it seem like routine. Besides, it was the Air Force that brought up the challenge for that "stunt", then the Navy took the challenge. Now like I said "its ABLE to land on aircraft carriers" Now next time before you try to make yourself sound smarter by putting "the idiots on display" on the "interwebz" get a better understanding from the point of view of the person your trying to make feel lesser.
@Eversman1 Oh yes you did. The phrase, "it's [or IT IS] able to" implies it is STILL able to do so to this day. Not a stunt. But something that happens with some regularity. And the "Navy" didn't "take on the challenge". That was a freaking CIA / Air America crew on a special op.
The Herc is UNABLE to land on a carrier. Not by any sane measure. Good Luck finding one modern carrier skipper who will let even the best-trained C-130J Air Force pilot today do that again, you nit.
@RingSight91 Why don't you Google before you open your mouth ,how embarrassing for you,there's several videos on youtube of the 120 fully loaded unassisted takeoff and landings of a c-130 on a U.S carrier.
@davetileguy One Hundred and Twenty launches and recoveries of a Herc on a carrier? Like the Forrestal? Now I know you're insane. There were 29 T&Gs and 21 unarrested landings. Counting 21 launches, how does all that have a sum of 120?
And I say it again. THAT WAS NOT THE AIR FORCE! If Lockheed-Martin wants to have a few stunts with their plane then let them be. L-M DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE US AIR FORCE and go ask mommy to send you back to school 'cause your math sucks.
@RingSight91 From your post you seemed to doubt the landings ever happened, Wheather it was the Navy or USAF makes no diff to me,of COURSE the USAF wouldn't land on a carrier. and I ment to say c-130 not 120 landings.
@davetileguy Those shipborne stunts were not, as you put it, exceeding "AF standards", are not the reason they're worth keeping in the AF, and would never have been done in the second place were it not for one ballsy Air America/CIA pilot deciding to do it for some emergency in the first place.
its just more efficient modern wonderfull plane. but i would have gone for updated 130,s or antonovs. Cheaper, makes more sence than inventing the wheel again like with the tornade back then. Its has to be bulky, easy to maintain everywere, and safe. Its not a fighter or a bomber.
thats more or less it with a mainly military cargoplane. If i was airbus i would kill it! Makes no sence.
@130hc US airforce has the C-17, its quite nice.. propellors do have there benifits as well i guess and these propellors are damn sexy.. but the c-130 is already perfect, just as is the b-52.. they keep on keeping on :)
@Warpath2198 Hey I am Patriotic Brit and Airbus is a joke in fact we Brits call its Airfags because out planes suck and we don't care how many Airbuses crash as long we get our Welfare Check from American workers jobs. By they way what do you think of our Whore Queen who got raise in pay? Screw every one and keep sending your checks to Airfags. So what if the boom falls of U Americans can afford to buy a new one. Well good by mates. Also say a prayer when you fly on an Aifbus you'll need it.
Well this is slightly more advanced than the C130 but not by much the C130 requires a bit more takeoff distance than the 800ft that the A400M does , but at the moment only 4 A400M's have been built , the first delievery is now 2012 but the uk have reduced order to 22 and the RAF will call the A400m the Atlas and south africa have cancelled orders for 8 with Germany eventually dropping to 40.
@Timsalt3100 T/O distance does not translate into "more advanced." The A400M is a huge step-up, technologically, compared to the C-130 and it acts as more or less as a replacement for it.
melooncillo Hey I am Patriotic Brit and Airbus is a joke in fact we Brits call its Airfags because out planes suck and we don't care how many Airbuses crash as long we get our Welfare Check from American workers jobs. By they way what do you think of our Whore Queen who got raise in pay? Screw every one and keep sending your checks to Airfags. So what if the boom falls of U Americans can afford to buy a new one. Well good by mates. Also say a prayer when you fly on an Aifbus you'll need it.
@scaremengaviation well maybe if hey came out with their own structure of a aircraft and not copy one and just put propellers on it then i wouldn't complain but they copy so much from boeing
@blablubb12345 The whole plane and nothign but the plane. New American Law will will deport non-patriotic foreign loving Airfaggers AKA Airbus to France, Germany + Spain and Birts said they will not take you!
@turbineproductions One, work on your grammar. Two, looks aren't everything. Three, the A400M is not a copy. Four, just because the A400M looks like a C-130 doesn't mean it's the same. Five, realize that airplanes are made to look like birds. They all look similar. Six, work on your grammar.
@scaremengaviation U R A Asswipe + Eurotard and without doubt Europeons cannot design plane with out copying American. So the copyright expired and thats just proves how lame the Frogs, Krauts + Limeys are such tards. Its like the A350 which is a copy of the Boeing 787 however there is big difference is how Airfags copies seem to crash all the time. By the way U Eurotards really fucked up and lost the USAF 40 Billion Dollar Contract + that copied the KC-135 Airframe. Airfags=Losers!
Do you really think that choosing a 30 year old airframe for the new tanker had any technical reasons? It was a political decision to "buy american" and prevent Boeing from scrapping their old 767 production line because nobody ordered them any more after the A330 came to market.
@LottoWinner999 A Eurotard? Now, how can that be when I am sending you comments all the way from the United States? The last time I checked the United States is not considered to be a part of Europe, right? What copyright? A copyright on the shape on an aircraft? Okay.. I dislike Airbus myself, but people like you are just dumb. To dislike them based off of "looks" is stupid.
@LottoWinner999 The KC-46A is not a copy of the KC-135. What the hell? KC-135=707. KC-46A=767. I suppose that you consider yourself a "copy" of your mom and dad? LOL.
@LottoWinner999 Oh, the last time I checked ass wipes are in little holders to clean up your poo poo. The last time I checked, those are inanimate objects. Now, if you're going to be throwing around objectified and ridiculous metaphorical ad hominem attacks it just proves to show that you know who's right and wrong. Why get all emotional?
@scaremengaviation one.my keyboard has sticky keys. 2 im just saying it looks like a c-130. threee we all have are own opinions four. my keyboard has sticky keys
@turbineproductions How am I supposed to know what you're trying to get at? Dumbass. I can't exactly read minds. Let alone interpret what the hell the jumble of text you left meant.
@turbineproductions These Airfaggers really suck cuz the copy American airplanes and designs and they could care less but when they take the credit thats when the suck the most!
@turbineproductions It makes you mad? How do you think people who post vulgar stupidity like "copying" make the brilliant scientists who designed this aircraft feel?
@LottoWinner999 Okay. What the hell? Seriously. If you think it looks like a LOCKHEED (yet, you say "Boeing") C-130, you should compare them closer. There are extremely obvious differences. And besides, to the observer every airplane "looks" the same. It's only upon close inspection that people realize the differences. What would not be "copying" if the A400M was shaped like a fighter jet? LOL. This general shape works best, it's not copyrighted and cannot be.
@LottoWinner999 You're a nutcase. You think Airbus is owned by Nazi's? LOL. Nazis are extreme haters, and since you call Airbus people "Airfaggers" I suppose you are a Nazi. Freaking dumbass.
@scaremengaviation The new Undercover Nazis + Airbus's effort to break into the USA Military Aircraft Production could give access to USAF information. Airbus tried to steal 35,000 American Jobs. U called USA protectionist + every dirty word in the book but WTO proved your subsidies were unfair. There will be a new law on the books that will not allow foreign manufacturers to build USAF military aircraft. Sorry but Airbus building USAF Aircraft is not option, so try the Russians or Chinese.
@scaremengaviation It would not surprise me that children of Nazis are in a stage were they are trying to rearm Germany by using other European nations as fronts. Its the kind of game that you Europeans play do to the fact that miss having power and the ability to make war.
@pCf96 As far as I know you cannot copyright the wing sweep angle of an aircraft. The Saab 29 had a 29-degree wing sweep-- did the C-17 "copy" the Saab 29? No.
Also, they don't have the same T-tail. If you look carefully you will see that the C-17 has no bump on the front-- the A400M does. The C-17 also has a longer trailing edge. Does the 717's tail look copied to you?
And anyways, just because something looks similar doesn't mean it's a copy.
@ABlodg0290 Turbofans are more efficient within a certain margin as are jet engines. Jet engines are more fuel efficient than turbofans at high altitudes over extremely long ranges, look at the GE90, and can produce much more power. Turbofans are efficient at lower altitudes and over shorter ranges, look at the Q400 vs. CRJ700 in the case of Horizon Air. It's about utilisation.
stop bashing on c-130, c-17, an70. its bigger than c130 and narrow than c-17 by an inch, it use modified version of a380 cockpit. if u compare short belfast,
Say whatever you want about the "copy" of c17 c130 thing. Facts are facts : She is totally new, she is currently the best military aircraft in her category (with props and designed for military transport) and her perfs are excellent.
@AdamAlim95 No, on maiden flights it is common practice for them to stay in the down position. One less thing to go wrong. Also keep in mind that it takes series of flights gradually stepping up the performance and functions of a brand new plane. They never roll one out of the factory and say "let's see what this baby can do". Only after all systems have been checked an re-checked does a plane get to go %100.
Ew. Its a scarebus. Boeing please!
justincrzo 1 month ago
Very impressive but no one, not even boeing itself can ever match the power, the sexiness, and the maneuverability of the C-17 in a million years
ACOBRAPILOTDUDE 2 months ago
Airbus is bigger and bether than boing
Ma22Ma21 2 months ago
@Ma22Ma21 i dont think so that is a proppeller globemaster
mmrp1965 2 months ago
@Ma22Ma21 Faggot
madisonelectronic 1 month ago
the name of the song please
Ma22Ma21 2 months ago
the name of the song please
Ma22Ma21 2 months ago
It is very impresive and I am an American.
mdharfman 3 months ago
Made in Spain :D
SAACAAS 3 months ago
In a few years time, the Royal Air Force will retire its fleet of C-130 hercules. They will be replaced with this beast!
Chess955 4 months ago
Its like a c-130 on steroids
TheGeeksOfNorway 5 months ago
Whats the name of the song in the backgroud? Very relaxing music
xStreetSurferxV2 6 months ago
why was his gear down the whole time?
TheHashBot 6 months ago
@TheHashBot It's part of flight testing.
KSharp320 5 months ago
i wanna hear the engines! (>_<)
DJALIENPHANTOM 6 months ago
C-130 clone
TheDrewdavis06 7 months ago
@TheDrewdavis06 C130 clone? I'ts more like CASA C-295's bigger version.
OnlyLifeMatters 6 months ago
...schade, kein Motoren-Sound zu hören...
BerndOstfriesland 7 months ago
Carriage UP ?? Yet not finished??
nabuco00 7 months ago
I like it a lot , cant wait to see one at an airshow soon..
Jetstarboy 7 months ago
THAT'S A HUUGE BITCH !!
shadowfaithx 7 months ago
Did they forget to retract the landing gears?
wtrdogg20 7 months ago
@wtrdogg20
They leave the gear down on first flights, just in case of a gear malfunction. One less thing to worry about.
54cj3 7 months ago
@54cj3 Good to know...thanks!
wtrdogg20 7 months ago
الله يشلكم
WoLF1443 7 months ago
Built in Spain :D
SAACAAS 7 months ago
@ascendead1 You are totally correct. The C-17 seen up close is nothing more than a gay joke. They even remove their yokes so it looks like they have 2 dicks that they fly with. This country is run by insane faggots who always lie and produce nothing positive except for faggots in the Marines.
donaircraft 8 months ago
lookslike a C-17 with propeller engines
971YOURMOM 8 months ago
looks like the industry is moving backwards ,propellers?
shallowtiger 8 months ago
Ok today we have darling little a400m and his mother C-130 on the show to find out who the father is. Both C-5 and the C-17 say they will step up and be a father if in fact the child is theirs. We'll be right back with the results. Stay tuned!
ChallengerGuy22 8 months ago 13
@ChallengerGuy22 put them on the maury show! is the c5 or c17 the father
VKat517 6 months ago
@VKat517 lol exactly
ChallengerGuy22 6 months ago
@ChallengerGuy22 in the Case of 2 Year old a400m!
C-17...... YOU ARE THE FATHER
64MojoMan 4 months ago
@ChallengerGuy22 C5, looks more manly :) Brute!
Djrepsaj 3 months ago
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@ascendead1 The truth hurts doesn't it?
davetileguy 8 months ago
Encore une perle signer Airbus... ! vivement de le voir distribué !
Victor6800D 8 months ago
Are you idiots crazy? what do i expect from a bunch of bloody yankees!
@davetileguy. the C17 was one of the biggest failures in aviation history. it is slow, it guzzles gas and it is unreliable. why do you think c-130 hercules can be found on every continent, but not C-17 or C-5s? they are used by the USAF because they have to buy american. M-400 a copy? rtead the specs you morons.
jigmanx 8 months ago
@jigmanx this guy davelittleguy is a faggot :D
chutiamoshiur 6 months ago
Are you idiots crazy? what do i expect from a bunch of bloody yankees!
@Simon-hairass. the C17 was one of the biggest failures in aviation history. it is slow, it guzzles gas and it is unreliable. why do you think c-130 hercules can be found on every continent, but not C-17 or C-5s? they are used by the USAF because they have to buy american. M-400 a copy? rtead the specs you morons.
jigmanx 8 months ago
Are you idiots crazy? what do i expect from a bunch of bloody yankees!
@Simon-hairass. the C17 was one of the biggest failures in aviation history. it is slow, it guzzles gas and it is unreliable. why do you think c-130 hercules can be found on every continent, but not C-17 or C-5s? they are used by the USAF because they have to buy american.
jigmanx 8 months ago
i notice the flags of the nation who are ordering this outstanding military transport plane,yet i dont see the us in there,after all this plane would be a good replacement for the aging C1-30 hercules witch is now obsolete ,witch should be retired out of service,i mean the C-17 globemaster is great in all ,but its a heavy transport for pet'esake ,what we need medium transport just like the venerable and legendary C1-30 hercules,sooo i want every ones opinion on this.
tragkfshnt 8 months ago
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Shrikefield 8 months ago
@tragkfshnt The Hercules was just released in a new updated configuration with state of the art systems, known as the C-130J. It's easier to to do that than it would be to update all of our heavy lift bases with the necessary equipment to service an aircraft we have never had to service before, the A400M.
Look up C-130J Super Hercules on you'll see what I mean. It's good stuff.
Shrikefield 8 months ago
How many countries and money did it take to make a plane that might be canceled?LOL Boeing did it 50 yrs ago by themselves!! the collective sucks!!
davetileguy 8 months ago
@davetileguy davelittleguy is a faggot :D
chutiamoshiur 6 months ago
@chutiamoshiur Ha! what are u 10? LMFAO!f
davetileguy 6 months ago
How many billions that are now missing somewhere else were spent for that moment?
PfhUkJiu101 9 months ago
wow airbus way to make an original design. They were like "Hey we can just take the C-17 and take the engines off and replace them with props! Its brilliant!" bunch of idiots. Boeing is where its at
sreqwq 9 months ago
bet ya that plane could chop some birds. ya kin?
dennyshonda 9 months ago
>>>>>>>What a magical plane. When I saw it my eyes were socked at how monoverable it is <<<<<<<
BO3INGvAIRBUS 9 months ago
Why landing gear is open?
phop2538 9 months ago
can anyone tell me why they use what seems to me old fashioned prop engines, and not powerful jet engines? I mean we never see big commercial planes with propeller engines today, like they didn't put that on A380.
Curious, do please answer if you know why.
callehopp 9 months ago
@callehopp
Turboprop-powered aircraft require are able to take off and land on shorter runways than jet-powered equivalents, which is an attribute that you'd want in a military transport plane. Also, turboprops allow for better handling and flying characteristics at lower speeds than jet aircraft, and are more maneuverable at lower speeds.
alancats 9 months ago
@alancats cheers :)
callehopp 8 months ago
@callehopp If I had to guess its probably because of fuel, Airbus might want to bring a C130 like modern aircraft into the market. This Plane seems to be a C-17 with Prop engines to me I know its not though. Also maint. on a turbo-fan vs turbo-prop is drastic in cost as well as maneuverability. Militaries around the world always look at ability, durability, capacity, possibilities and of course cost, I think this is a magnificent plane and would like to see it compared to the C-17 or the C-130.
LuvAirTraffic 9 months ago
@LuvAirTraffic
Those things are built along the specifications of the countries which order them, not because Airbus thinks that there is a market for. Germany / France / GB wanted a tactical transport plane with turboprop engines and a certain payload. The most important advantages of turboprops are their excellent short takeoff and landing capabilities and durability while operating on unprepared airstrips.
blablubb12345 9 months ago
@LuvAirTraffic Thank you .
callehopp 8 months ago
@callehopp Prop engine? prop on a turbo jet or piston engine? you have no idea what your even asking,educate yourself first. wiki is your friend.
davetileguy 8 months ago
@davetileguy thank you for your kind answer.
callehopp 8 months ago
@callehopp Kind shmind your question embarrasses you as a human . SO because you see a prop that tells you the engine? If a car has wheels does that means it has a Gas engine,Electric ,Hydrogen or Diesel? get it? the wheels or in this case the "propeller" has nothing to do with what it's attached to.
davetileguy 8 months ago
@davetileguy and again i say thank you ;-)
callehopp 8 months ago
@callehopp :-)
davetileguy 8 months ago
IF the 400 hits the market ,it's a fat cow that's 12 TONS over weight ,that's a serious design miscalculation which means it has other bugs, it's over budget and the Germans don't want it because it won't carry their lightweight tank ,Italy and Canada dropped their orders, and finally SCAREBUS had to ASK Lockheed Martin for technical specs and help!!!!!!!! wow that's sad !!! USA IS KING Boeing or Lockeed can do what 6 countries together cannot!!!
davetileguy 1 second ago
davetileguy 8 months ago
@davetileguy
Could you please back up ONE of your claims? Yes, it has it's problems, but maybe you should ask Lockheed how the F35 is going...
blablubb12345 8 months ago
@blablubb12345 Try Google or Wiki,my point is that's an OLD design imagine if scarebus had to make the Space Shuttle or B-1 or B-2 or SR-71,DEATH BY CONSENSUS !!!
davetileguy 8 months ago
@davetileguy
What makes it an "old design" in your opinion? The carbon fiber wing or fuselage, the FBW system, it's flight performance? How would you design a tactical airlifter?
blablubb12345 8 months ago
@blablubb12345 I would just get a C-130 or c-117 as to keep money coming to America , or Europe should have asked Boeing to design it FOR them!! LOL
davetileguy 8 months ago
@davetileguy Absolute BS, i've never heard such rubbish, do you think that everyone who works at Boeing or Lockheed is American because if you do then you are retarded
TheSimonHarris 8 months ago
@TheSimonHarris Pretty much all American certainly a higher ratio than scarebus,America is the melting pot not England France or Germany. The 400 is just a C-17 copy.
davetileguy 8 months ago
@davetileguy This is partly true, although like so many other Americans your patriotism seems to inhibit your ability to make a balanced argument. There are no doubt 10's of 1000's of people in the 3rd world who, given the opportunities, could design and build a aircraft superior to the C-17. Just because someone is lucky enough to be born into a society that allows them to fulfil their potential doesn't mean they are better people. Yours and so many other Americans arrogance is unbelievable!
TheSimonHarris 8 months ago 6
@TheSimonHarris What can I say the US rules in so many ways and I don't mean militarily ,'the people in the 3rd world can hardly govern themselves or even mass produce a car! much less a high tech plane. Quite frankly our accomplishments in only 250 years is unprecedented and worth a little arrogance.Socialism is what kills ideas ,drive and innovation and that is one battle we may not win
davetileguy 8 months ago
@davetileguy Wait when Sarah Palin becomes president...we will be all proud of being American...
ellebal1111 8 months ago
@ellebal1111 what makes you think Saraha Palin will be president?and if she was America would thrive! Michele Bachman for pres!!!
davetileguy 7 months ago
@davetileguy American politics is becoming a big farce around the world...You got me going but reminded myself that this an airplane forum!
ellebal1111 7 months ago
@ellebal1111 True enough,but tell me what do you believe you really know about Sarah P. ?? Canadian Socialism I'm sure is truly honest by the state media ,do you fear strong women? women who shoot guns? outspoken women ? or any woman smarter or in a higher position than yourself? (I'm not trying to egg you on)
So without using adjectives like "dumb " and "stupid" (A childs vocab) clearly outline you disagreements. (P.S. I like her but not for president)
davetileguy 7 months ago
@davetileguy Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for women, and hope we get more of them in politics and CEO's...having said that, Sarah Palin does not have my respect, she manipulate simple minded Americans by telling them what they want to hear, (mostly right wing religious bible belt) her claim she had foreign experience while vice president contender by saying she could see Russia from where she was in Alaska and that Putin was flying over her state was over the top!
ellebal1111 7 months ago
@ellebal1111 For all practical purposes and more so than any state you can see Russia from Alaska, The Distant Early Warning Line, is located there as part of our National Defense.Who is the Commander in Chief of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard? Sarhra Palin....What U.S. governor is routinely briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counter terrorism?
davetileguy 7 months ago
@ellebal1111 What U.S. governor has a higher classified security rating than the Presidential candidate of the Democrat Party? She did not say Putin was flying over her state she was speaking figuratively of how close Al. is to Russia. Now the fact that you and most of the world can't look that up for yourself is pathetic and a larger symptom of a virus called ignorance that is running rampant around the world.Once again I am not a S.P. fan but an honest person.
davetileguy 7 months ago
@TheSimonHarris I do agree with you that a lot of Americans are arrogant. Yes we are not very well rounded. However, not just anybody from any country can design an aircraft superior to c17 if opertunity was givien. when it comes to the air and the ocean the US has dominated the last 100yrs and will continue to dominate for another generation. If we weren't excellent when in comes to planes then how come we don't have foreign planes in our militry inventory. englad, france, australia, turkey
DiCairo 3 months ago
@TheSimonHarris Continue....
are all developed nations, how come they are using american aircrafts. Now u have japan, saudia and other countries saying that they changed their mind about eurofighter. They want to purchase the f22 instead. A lot of ppl like to speak negative about America's aicraft industry, yet, the majority of the aircrafts they have in their country are american aircrafts. If i'm wrong about anything i said then u are more then welcomed to prove me wrong sir.
DiCairo 3 months ago
the pilot is like, shit guys, wheres the landing gear button? aww fuck it :)
milmano 9 months ago
Thx for ruining the sound with the crappy music
ikwilniinloggen 10 months ago
they should replace the ac 130 with this so they could cary more ammo
kirbyroxy 10 months ago
@kirbyroxy Thats why the USAF uses the C-17. The C-130 is still in use and will still be in use for some time to come because the C-130 is a model that has many variants and more than exceeds any AF standards. That..... and its able to land on aircraft carriers.
Eversman1 9 months ago
@Eversman1 >"That..... and its able to land on aircraft carriers."
LOL! That only happened ONCE and you make it out to be some sort of "routine" capability. Hell, it wasn't even the USAF that pulled-off that stunt, and you make it out to be some sort of reason the USAF "still has it in use". Gawd I love how the interwebz lets out the idiots on display.
RingSight91 9 months ago
@RingSight91 I never said they use it as a routine and I didn't try to make it seem like routine. Besides, it was the Air Force that brought up the challenge for that "stunt", then the Navy took the challenge. Now like I said "its ABLE to land on aircraft carriers" Now next time before you try to make yourself sound smarter by putting "the idiots on display" on the "interwebz" get a better understanding from the point of view of the person your trying to make feel lesser.
Eversman1 9 months ago
@Eversman1 Oh yes you did. The phrase, "it's [or IT IS] able to" implies it is STILL able to do so to this day. Not a stunt. But something that happens with some regularity. And the "Navy" didn't "take on the challenge". That was a freaking CIA / Air America crew on a special op.
The Herc is UNABLE to land on a carrier. Not by any sane measure. Good Luck finding one modern carrier skipper who will let even the best-trained C-130J Air Force pilot today do that again, you nit.
RingSight91 9 months ago
@RingSight91 One Experiment ,they landed took off like 50 times fully loaded with no JATO or Catapault.
davetileguy 8 months ago
@davetileguy Who is this "they" of whom you speak? No Air Force project has ever been tasked to prove the viability of C-130 use with NAVY carriers.
RingSight91 4 months ago
@RingSight91 Why don't you Google before you open your mouth ,how embarrassing for you,there's several videos on youtube of the 120 fully loaded unassisted takeoff and landings of a c-130 on a U.S carrier.
davetileguy 4 months ago
@davetileguy One Hundred and Twenty launches and recoveries of a Herc on a carrier? Like the Forrestal? Now I know you're insane. There were 29 T&Gs and 21 unarrested landings. Counting 21 launches, how does all that have a sum of 120?
And I say it again. THAT WAS NOT THE AIR FORCE! If Lockheed-Martin wants to have a few stunts with their plane then let them be. L-M DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE US AIR FORCE and go ask mommy to send you back to school 'cause your math sucks.
RingSight91 4 months ago
@RingSight91 From your post you seemed to doubt the landings ever happened, Wheather it was the Navy or USAF makes no diff to me,of COURSE the USAF wouldn't land on a carrier. and I ment to say c-130 not 120 landings.
davetileguy 4 months ago
@davetileguy Those shipborne stunts were not, as you put it, exceeding "AF standards", are not the reason they're worth keeping in the AF, and would never have been done in the second place were it not for one ballsy Air America/CIA pilot deciding to do it for some emergency in the first place.
RingSight91 4 months ago
eurofighter is another story. That i understand
onlymusicism 10 months ago
no huge volume no future. standardisation is military key. and commercially necesary
onlymusicism 10 months ago
and buy it, than it can be sold for a reasonable price to the civil market for specialized (humanitarian) cargo transports.
onlymusicism 10 months ago
and buys it.
onlymusicism 10 months ago
or the usa and / or former eastern block / asia miulitary complex jointventures it.
onlymusicism 10 months ago
its just more efficient modern wonderfull plane. but i would have gone for updated 130,s or antonovs. Cheaper, makes more sence than inventing the wheel again like with the tornade back then. Its has to be bulky, easy to maintain everywere, and safe. Its not a fighter or a bomber.
thats more or less it with a mainly military cargoplane. If i was airbus i would kill it! Makes no sence.
onlymusicism 10 months ago
Never mind the music, lets hear those engines, one flew over here from Brize Norton, the sound is WONDERFUL.
21inheart 10 months ago
Unicorn plane?!?
MrJoLeCon 10 months ago
The replacement to the C-130
1pnoe 10 months ago
Why not use Jet Engines? doesnt make sense
ThirdRomeAquilo 10 months ago
@DeRico91 That has not to be sexy but efficient and useful to carry troops or vehicles. its not a multi-role fighter aircraft. lol
philrea2010 10 months ago
Too bad the US Airforce don't have these replacing the c-130 the A400 is badass!
130hc 10 months ago
@130hc US airforce has the C-17, its quite nice.. propellors do have there benifits as well i guess and these propellors are damn sexy.. but the c-130 is already perfect, just as is the b-52.. they keep on keeping on :)
KungFriedChicken 10 months ago
They should carry cessnas inside that release during flight then in turn the cessnas release RC planes
Nzuser1 11 months ago
beautiful, but horrendously expensive. i doubt it'll be much of an export hit apart from the countries who already contributed to its development.
kaschtnsamtdiekarbln 11 months ago
Are they kidding? The C-17 flies rings around this slow poke...Amazing testicular courage on the part of the Euros, though...
deetjay1 11 months ago
It almost looks like a Tu-95 Bear and a Hercules had a short, stubby, overweight child...
nezzy14 11 months ago
@DeRico91 you need to get out more, there are plenty uglier than this, and i am in no way saying this is a sexy plane, but its just not ugly!
twistednormal 11 months ago
I'll be impressed when it can carry a tank. Until then, it's a propeller driven C-17. The C-17 can do everything this plane can do and then some.
336kgf 11 months ago
looks like a c17 fucked a c1SHUT THE FUCK UP and got a nice airplane... :/ i hate these comments -.-
ccalvinn27 11 months ago
oooops Shattered thunder is my kid. Forgot to log in under me.
ABlodg0290 11 months ago
Thanks! Great to see someone who understands the sweet science behind propulsive mechanics!
shatteredthunder 11 months ago
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@Warpath2198 Hey I am Patriotic Brit and Airbus is a joke in fact we Brits call its Airfags because out planes suck and we don't care how many Airbuses crash as long we get our Welfare Check from American workers jobs. By they way what do you think of our Whore Queen who got raise in pay? Screw every one and keep sending your checks to Airfags. So what if the boom falls of U Americans can afford to buy a new one. Well good by mates. Also say a prayer when you fly on an Aifbus you'll need it.
LottoWinner999 11 months ago
@LottoWinner999 You represent all Brits?
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
Well this is slightly more advanced than the C130 but not by much the C130 requires a bit more takeoff distance than the 800ft that the A400M does , but at the moment only 4 A400M's have been built , the first delievery is now 2012 but the uk have reduced order to 22 and the RAF will call the A400m the Atlas and south africa have cancelled orders for 8 with Germany eventually dropping to 40.
Timsalt3100 1 year ago
@Timsalt3100 T/O distance does not translate into "more advanced." The A400M is a huge step-up, technologically, compared to the C-130 and it acts as more or less as a replacement for it.
scaremengaviation 1 year ago
I like this plane and I like EADS CASA flying cargo planes
melooncillo 1 year ago
melooncillo Hey I am Patriotic Brit and Airbus is a joke in fact we Brits call its Airfags because out planes suck and we don't care how many Airbuses crash as long we get our Welfare Check from American workers jobs. By they way what do you think of our Whore Queen who got raise in pay? Screw every one and keep sending your checks to Airfags. So what if the boom falls of U Americans can afford to buy a new one. Well good by mates. Also say a prayer when you fly on an Aifbus you'll need it.
LottoWinner999 11 months ago
itts nice and all but does airbus have to copy every single damn aircraft we have?
turbineproductions 1 year ago
@turbineproductions How else would an airplane look?
scaremengaviation 1 year ago
@scaremengaviation well maybe if hey came out with their own structure of a aircraft and not copy one and just put propellers on it then i wouldn't complain but they copy so much from boeing
turbineproductions 11 months ago
@turbineproductions
What exactly did they copy?
blablubb12345 11 months ago
@blablubb12345 The whole plane and nothign but the plane. New American Law will will deport non-patriotic foreign loving Airfaggers AKA Airbus to France, Germany + Spain and Birts said they will not take you!
LottoWinner999 11 months ago
@turbineproductions One, work on your grammar. Two, looks aren't everything. Three, the A400M is not a copy. Four, just because the A400M looks like a C-130 doesn't mean it's the same. Five, realize that airplanes are made to look like birds. They all look similar. Six, work on your grammar.
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
@scaremengaviation U R A Asswipe + Eurotard and without doubt Europeons cannot design plane with out copying American. So the copyright expired and thats just proves how lame the Frogs, Krauts + Limeys are such tards. Its like the A350 which is a copy of the Boeing 787 however there is big difference is how Airfags copies seem to crash all the time. By the way U Eurotards really fucked up and lost the USAF 40 Billion Dollar Contract + that copied the KC-135 Airframe. Airfags=Losers!
LottoWinner999 11 months ago
@LottoWinner999
Do you really think that choosing a 30 year old airframe for the new tanker had any technical reasons? It was a political decision to "buy american" and prevent Boeing from scrapping their old 767 production line because nobody ordered them any more after the A330 came to market.
blablubb12345 11 months ago
@LottoWinner999 A Eurotard? Now, how can that be when I am sending you comments all the way from the United States? The last time I checked the United States is not considered to be a part of Europe, right? What copyright? A copyright on the shape on an aircraft? Okay.. I dislike Airbus myself, but people like you are just dumb. To dislike them based off of "looks" is stupid.
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
@LottoWinner999 The KC-46A is not a copy of the KC-135. What the hell? KC-135=707. KC-46A=767. I suppose that you consider yourself a "copy" of your mom and dad? LOL.
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
@LottoWinner999 Oh, the last time I checked ass wipes are in little holders to clean up your poo poo. The last time I checked, those are inanimate objects. Now, if you're going to be throwing around objectified and ridiculous metaphorical ad hominem attacks it just proves to show that you know who's right and wrong. Why get all emotional?
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
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LottoWinner999 11 months ago
@scaremengaviation one.my keyboard has sticky keys. 2 im just saying it looks like a c-130. threee we all have are own opinions four. my keyboard has sticky keys
turbineproductions 11 months ago
@turbineproductions Where did you say it "looks like a C-130"? You said "why do they have to copy." Dumbass.
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
@scaremengaviation dude i never speciificly said it looks like a c- but thats what i was getting at...dumbass
turbineproductions 11 months ago
@turbineproductions How am I supposed to know what you're trying to get at? Dumbass. I can't exactly read minds. Let alone interpret what the hell the jumble of text you left meant.
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
@scaremengaviation use your brain and figure it out
turbineproductions 11 months ago
@turbineproductions Use your brain and figure out that I can't get "C-130" out of your sentence.
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
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@scaremengaviation not my problem
turbineproductions 11 months ago
@turbineproductions These Airfaggers really suck cuz the copy American airplanes and designs and they could care less but when they take the credit thats when the suck the most!
LottoWinner999 11 months ago
@LottoWinner999 i know it makes me so mad!!
turbineproductions 11 months ago
@turbineproductions It makes you mad? How do you think people who post vulgar stupidity like "copying" make the brilliant scientists who designed this aircraft feel?
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
@LottoWinner999 Okay. What the hell? Seriously. If you think it looks like a LOCKHEED (yet, you say "Boeing") C-130, you should compare them closer. There are extremely obvious differences. And besides, to the observer every airplane "looks" the same. It's only upon close inspection that people realize the differences. What would not be "copying" if the A400M was shaped like a fighter jet? LOL. This general shape works best, it's not copyrighted and cannot be.
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
@LottoWinner999 You're a nutcase. You think Airbus is owned by Nazi's? LOL. Nazis are extreme haters, and since you call Airbus people "Airfaggers" I suppose you are a Nazi. Freaking dumbass.
scaremengaviation 11 months ago
@scaremengaviation The new Undercover Nazis + Airbus's effort to break into the USA Military Aircraft Production could give access to USAF information. Airbus tried to steal 35,000 American Jobs. U called USA protectionist + every dirty word in the book but WTO proved your subsidies were unfair. There will be a new law on the books that will not allow foreign manufacturers to build USAF military aircraft. Sorry but Airbus building USAF Aircraft is not option, so try the Russians or Chinese.
LottoWinner999 11 months ago
@scaremengaviation It would not surprise me that children of Nazis are in a stage were they are trying to rearm Germany by using other European nations as fronts. Its the kind of game that you Europeans play do to the fact that miss having power and the ability to make war.
LottoWinner999 11 months ago
sorry c-130 but this looks a/c looks awsome..
gbriff 1 year ago
man i could swear that Airbus copied Boeing's C-17 design
pCf96 1 year ago
@pCf96 Why? Because they look similar?
scaremengaviation 1 year ago
@scaremengaviation yeah they have the same wing dehedral and same T tail
pCf96 1 year ago
@pCf96 As far as I know you cannot copyright the wing sweep angle of an aircraft. The Saab 29 had a 29-degree wing sweep-- did the C-17 "copy" the Saab 29? No.
Also, they don't have the same T-tail. If you look carefully you will see that the C-17 has no bump on the front-- the A400M does. The C-17 also has a longer trailing edge. Does the 717's tail look copied to you?
And anyways, just because something looks similar doesn't mean it's a copy.
scaremengaviation 1 year ago
Wonderful to see that propeller driven ACs will never disappear. Fuel eff. and ground performance not to be approached by jets of comparable size.
ABlodg0290 1 year ago
@ABlodg0290 Turbofans are more efficient within a certain margin as are jet engines. Jet engines are more fuel efficient than turbofans at high altitudes over extremely long ranges, look at the GE90, and can produce much more power. Turbofans are efficient at lower altitudes and over shorter ranges, look at the Q400 vs. CRJ700 in the case of Horizon Air. It's about utilisation.
scaremengaviation 1 year ago
do the inner pair of props turn counter to the outer pair to negate torque effect?
ToxiclyNoxious 1 year ago
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RingvaldMajor 1 year ago
The C-17 retracted it's gear on the maiden flight.
adrianspeeder 1 year ago
stop bashing on c-130, c-17, an70. its bigger than c130 and narrow than c-17 by an inch, it use modified version of a380 cockpit. if u compare short belfast,
josephtan1818 1 year ago
Why flaps and gears were down??
Alex41119 1 year ago
a400m will have same cargo height as c-17 but c-17 are bit wider, hope this help
josephtan1818 1 year ago
Say whatever you want about the "copy" of c17 c130 thing. Facts are facts : She is totally new, she is currently the best military aircraft in her category (with props and designed for military transport) and her perfs are excellent.
mogofou 1 year ago
its bigger than c130, with T-tail while c130 use fuselage mounted tail
josephtan1818 1 year ago
I think the pilot forgot about the aircraft's retractable landing gear capability!
AdamAlim95 1 year ago 19
@AdamAlim95 most test pilots leave the gear down on the first flight in case of a problem.
crackerjack777 1 year ago
@AdamAlim95 lolz
Sting3733 1 year ago
@AdamAlim95 its all procedural, its a first flight they are not gonna retract the landing gear.
rambothegreat18 1 year ago
@AdamAlim95 nope, on the maiden flight, they are to fly with gears down the hole time
harold562 1 year ago
@AdamAlim95 No, on maiden flights it is common practice for them to stay in the down position. One less thing to go wrong. Also keep in mind that it takes series of flights gradually stepping up the performance and functions of a brand new plane. They never roll one out of the factory and say "let's see what this baby can do". Only after all systems have been checked an re-checked does a plane get to go %100.
shizzle5150 1 year ago 19