Call for Utubian Resources from a Council Member

[kyyboa]

Now as far as Kyyboa sounding religious, I would say it's more spiritual and intentional (community) It is not an offshoot of any one of the religions. And it is certainly not a cult. That is the long-running joke of some of our detractors. Now if you want to believe their rubbish, its your choice. ;7)

[1000You2b0001]

So, what is the damage control assessment on this video I produced? How can I come to any understanding of my errors if you bow out? Am I to be ex-communicated? Where do I stand? On the edge of extinction?

[kyyboa]

Ex-communcation? Shall we take that as a religious joke?

[1000You2b0001]

Every organization has the power to purge members for whatever reasons it chooses. One time I had to 86 a communist agitator who was calling for the violent reactions and arming of members of a tenants rights group.

[kyyboa]

Since every member of Utubia is free to join or to leave, we do not have to resort to violence. Besides, its kind of lame to use violence when it is only virtual. Doesn't come across very effective. LOL

[entertainmentgiant]

Utubia is online ONLY (deantaholic Waco is in Texas ONLY, it is NOT online).

If Utubia were to formulate in the real world in the future, it seems that it could be hosted by the facilities of Kyyboa.

This remains to be seen.

I really do not want to say anymore. I let myself get pulled into this. Respectfully I bow out. Anyone who makes any decisions, its on your own. But please don't make it based upon any fears, misunderstanding, or false assumptions.

[entertainmentgiant]

UUtubia is a big open forum of ideas about life and civilization, without the fear of being brainwashed. We are all free here. We are all equal yet different. This is Utopia.

Now, 1000you2b made a mistake by talking about the Utubia Kyyboa connection. the only one who can do that at this point is the creator of Kyyboa.

[1000You2b0001]

Sorry about that chief, I mean, ex-chief. Why do they keep calling Carter, President Carter, or Daddy Bush Sr., President Bush? They should be called ex-President Bush, ex-President Carter, etc., because their presidencies no longer exist.

[entertainmentgiant]

My second advice to you - You would get a lot beter response I think, if you use a table where the camera is not always bouncing up and down when your elbows and tea cup and everything else DOESNT shake it unsteady web camera.

[1000You2b0001]

Funny, I never noticed. This criticism is good. I'll mount my camera on the wall!

[entertainmentgiant]

A solid table or desk would be the easiest fix, I suppose.

[entertainmentgiant]

Why are you talking about Peter Appleseed in this one? I thought he was retired and on vacation. Is there any other way you can reference what the plans are? You've woken Appleseed from his Utubian sleep.

And as far as the transition into Kyyboa? Shouldn't they have to watch some of the videos on that channel before they even know what the F is going.

[entertainmentgiant]

Jesus, that dentaholic is calling it a religion now. No offense Denta, but Utubia don't need to confuse those who arent the sharpest in the pencil box.

[1000You2b0001]

It keeps coming up. I think there is a distinction between a religious experience and a spiritual experience. Religion fucks you up, spiritual lifts you up! And, excuse me, but Utubia lifts me up so it must be spiritual and not religious!

[Dentaholic]

Possession is a spiritual experience also. Religious practices are called in to fight this spiritual experience. They are both one and the same.

The Utubia Community connected with a spiritual experience is a play on words.

Utubia should follow a Separation of Church and State if it wishes to succeed...or it will be considered evangelistic, since there is a call for ppl to GIVE of themselves, and ppl will view it as Waco Texas on the Web.

I could be wrong, if so, prove it to me.

[1000You2b0001]

How can you have unity if you do not have a spiritual connection? Utubia is about unity, oneness, right? It's the same as the United States - it has no spiritual connection now and it's divided as hell. But look, this is only my interpretation. You should fight for your principles if you believe in them as such. I'm only one voice in Utubia and speak for myself, not for the entire group. Utubia consists of people of many creeds around the globe and I doubt they allow a religious establishment.

[kyyboa]

That is a decent discussion. But it always comes to down to individual opinion. Yes we can speak for each ourselves. And each person has to decide whether they agree or not with other opinions.

[Dentaholic]

OK, I'll agree with that...LOL!

[Dentaholic]

Listen, I read a lot on this Utubia, been in communication with some of it's members, heard some pieces from a book, I think was called "2008 was written in 1999", so I made an educated guess of what this Utubia is all about. Money from the masses, and a Cult following. I FEEL uneasy being involved with another Waco Texas.

Now if I'm wrong, I will be the man and say that I am wrong. But if my gut feeling is right, I'm out. So, prove I'm wrong or Later Gator.

Peace with Passion, Dentaholic

[entertainmentgiant]

Denta, I would tell you right now, if you think this is another WACO TEXAS, you better hit the ground running right now. LMAO

If you seriously have to ask!

I'm retired, so I have to respectfully bow out for now.

[1000You2b0001]

No one is asking for anyone's money, or no one is twisting anyone's arms for money. The fact is, most of us on Utubia have very little resources. So we give of ourselves, our efforts, our time, our values, our principles. In my case, I saw Utubia has specific needs and found a way to address some of them. I ask no one to follow my lead, just to be open to possibilities. The monetizing of videos on Utubia Channels, for example, could be used towards organizing gatherings.

[kyyboa]

This statement is very accurate according to the precedent which has been set. It is up to the present body of members and Council to perpetuate it or change it.

[Dentaholic]

Well, that's a little insulting. Calling some Utubians mentally challenged. Mind naming some names of these Utubians so they can see how you view them? Check mate.

[entertainmentgiant]

As always, you will find them listed all over the place. On the UtubiaPresident channel and elsewhere.

[entertainmentgiant]

OK, but it seems a bit like CHECK. Not CHECKMATE.

I want to say this, if you are so fearful of being brainwashed, this is definitely NOT for you. The problem being that you would end up being brainwashed anyhow, by your fear. That is the cult you in by default. I dont mean literally, but this is what holds you back from hearing the Truth behind what is going on.

[entertainmentgiant]

Within Utubia we can talk about religion or religious issues, but we do not advocate any one religion. You will never hear that. We do invoke God however. In a sense we are theists. But we accept the agnostic principle. Yet we are not against all religion as the so-called Atheism movement.

[Dentaholic]

Oh, believe me, I am not the brainwashed type by any stretch of imagination. I ask questions, and when no one gives a K.I.S.S.

(Keep It Simple Stupid) answer, I feel that some one is hiding the true answer. That's when I make educated guesses on situations. If my educated guesses are wrong, I will admit to it.

So, without any disrespect, I will wait for HoldinCoffee to give a K.I.S.S. answer, since no one here can do so. Then I will report these findings to my ppl on my newsletter & YT account.

[kyyboa]

Well one thing is for sure (even though I try to use a different style these days) I tend to be long winded. At least I give details and thorough explanation?

But this is simple as it can get from my statements - Utubia has had a long-standing principle of being open to religious discussion. Therefore we do not advocate any ONE single religion which is available.

We also do not take the atheist or agnostic route, yet we do agree to openly discuss those ideas.

Peter Appleseed

[1000You2b0001]

I will volunteer this: I personally am mentally challenged, that should be obvious from viewing some of my videos. Should I be sharing myself on YouTube? Good question if your on the other side of the screen and believe in censorship of the little people. But I find greater value in what the little people say than I do of big whigs, who are not my authority figures - this I could say with honesty - I'm my own authority and no one can do that for me.

[1000You2b0001]

Okay, folks, you heard the guy, watch the Kyyboa channels for what the F is going down, okay?

[entertainmentgiant]

Until they watch the kyyboa videos on YT kyyboa, they would be confused. This is the only way to understand the relation between the 2 concepts.

[1000You2b0001]

Workaholics never go on vacation, never mind retirement, and they rarely sleep. You work even when you're on vacation or sleeping. I didn't mean to invoke the wrath of Peter here by bringing attention to him. However, you are the reference point for Utubia and the Kyyboa Tribe, so not to mention you is like not mentioning either Utubia or Kyyboa. So, maybe I should work alone like some isolationist, alienated revolutionary! Fact is I don't have the ego for it, I simply am not that great.

[IChoseTheRedPill]

i was thinking we could start a movie production company. our first project could be something we write ourselves. a way of proving to the industry we got skillzzz... anyway, just an idea...

[1000You2b0001]

Yea, I think that's one of Peter Appleseed's goals for EntertainmentGiant, from which my channel originates. But there are in reality many projects to be created, in different realms - not only cyberspace but the physical plane. This is a truth industry and we could be the first to make it a profitable venture without undue corporate influence and interference.

[entertainmentgiant]

I could make a whole video about that Sensei. It is a struggle between the industry camp and the grassroots talent. I don't take any side though (as you should have guessed)

[IChoseTheRedPill]

i wanna copy of this book...

[1000You2b0001]

It's available, but wait for the revised edition that is coming soon.

[Dentaholic]

Once again I am confused...Is Utubia a Religion?

That is what I am getting the feeling of over here.

[nowhereman2006]

It seems like somebody's opinion of the whole thing. What is your opinion.

[1000You2b0001]

Utubia is a tolerant community that is united by one common bond - we are all humans living on the same planet in the same universe. We are one. Peace Love Truth & Justice are ONE! It's really that simple. I don't like to think of it as the establishment of a new religion. Just as a catalyst for positive change and alternatives, using the best methods from each and every discipline, philosophy, religion, or spiritual revelation or prophecy. I don't think it's hokus pokus, it's self empowerment.

[1000You2b0001]

And as we empower ourselves, take responsibility and positive actions to accomplish our individual missions and community aspirations, we will find that as a collective we can accomplish a whole lot more than we can alone as a single individual without a clue how to get anything accomplished.

[Dentaholic]

So you are saying that this has a "Form of Religion" to it.

[entertainmentgiant]

What definition of religion are you using? Then I could answer that. LOL

I'm not getting into a theological debate am I? Because I have no idea what your position on religion.

To be sure - this has been said before and will continue to be the foundation. Utubia has no religion which it advocates, it is open to all religious views and especially is a forum for openly discussing belief systems.

[1000You2b0001]

That is part of the tolerance and unity that is lacking throughout the rest of the world. That's what distinguishes Utubia from the rest of the world. We are not separatists or even cult like in our thinking.

[1000You2b0001]

No, it is very fleeting. Everyone brings their diversity to Utubia - we are the true melting pot. Could that possibly be the creation of a new religion? How could anyone agree to it? I mean Utubia consists of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindis, Buddhists, Universalists, Scientologists, etc., etc., etc. It is a very tolerant community that at at least tries to understand differences among the fold. Everyone is an equal player if they take action and responsibility.

[ImNotOnTheInternet]

Monetize or fores like viacom will continue to monetize as they please.

[HoldinCoffee]

Utubia =/= kyyboa

[HoldinCoffee]

hmmm... I think this can be done quite easily, if there was only a willing Utubian to put in the time to do it...

Hey, can't we just get our info from viacom?

[utubia1party]

YouTube is just one of the vehicles we can use to get where we are going. We will branch out until Peace, Love, Truth & Justice touch all corners of the universe.

[evotelution]

I liked the statements regarding the truth. there is absoluely no doubt that we as Utubians are the seeds that will spread into hundreds of millions who come after us. The question is, is it youtube videos that we monitize or will it be a secondary tool we have yet to harness. I commend you for doing something with what we have right in front of us.