plus all the contentents were still in one single mass up till the flood. so distance between say africa and north america would not be so big a deal to make journey to mesopotamia, the animals could actually have walked (EZ!). furthermore, the fauna of earth was much more diverse before the flood. ROLF.. hold on i can come up with all kinds of ludicrous stories, to try and make the grand daddy of myths work.
Ummm.... your over thinking this. The invisible sky wizard would simply have waved his amazing invisi-wand (newest technology of that time) and all the animals would have arrived in their stables on the boat in an instant (in hibernation, thus no feeding necessary). maybe he will repeat this for this upcoming flood, then you will better understand the science in the bibel. ROFL!
Given only the 3 given options, I am forced to select the 3rd. However you could have weakened it down a little. Instead of 'The story, and the book it comes from, are 100% bullshit!' you might have written 'The story is 100% bogus!' - The fact that remains is 100% true: if Gods intentions were to eliminate wickedness and sin we look at the biggest faillure ever. One might have expected better from an almighty, all-seeiing, omnipresent God.
I hope that most people know that the Noah's Ark story is just an old fairy tale. I don't think its worth the time to discuss it, since it belongs right with the "flat earth" believers.
Keep it simple: in the Bible, God says his reason for destroying every living thing on earth was to eliminate wickedness and sin. Now ask yourself, do we stil have wickedness and sin today? Of course we do! So, what are the possible reasons for this?
1) God is incompetent.
2) God just likes killing things.
3) The story, and the book it comes from, are 100% bullshit!
Your calculations underestimate the logistics problems. Paleontologists have calculated 500,000 species of dinosaurs existed in earth's history. Talk about tight space!
Question: If the flood availed 15 cubits, and this was the minimum amount of water above mountains needed for the flood, why is the summit of Mount Everest limestone? If less than 25 feet of water can make solid rock so fast, we should see it right now happening all over the world.
2. Fossils are not evenly spread out, so that is impossible. Did the flood sort them out?
3. There is no evidence of this. Geologic layers have different biomes in time and space.
4. Genesis says the pairs were "male and female", but some animals don't have 2 genders.
5. Genesis says the pairs were 7 of clean, 1 unclean, but a. that would leave everything massively inbred, b. unclean animals would be 7 times as inbred.
@InternetDarkLord 1. Kinds do exist, they are known as families in modern taxonomy. 2. Fossils being evenly spread out would matter if every animal that died was fossilized, they are not. 99% of animals in the flood were not fossilized. 3. There are no geological columns. They exist in the imaginations of evolutionists and not in nature. 4. Most mammals have male and female. 5. Inbreeding was not an issue.
@InternetDarkLord Inbreeding is not a problem in the animal kingdom if populations are increasing, inbreeding is common. 4400 years since the flood and everything fits. Science is happy with creation.
@warriorprince1010 Inbreeding would not be prevented by an increasing population. In fact, that is what normally happens in an inbred population like cheetahs.
Science has discredited creation. Genesis says the pairs were "male and female" yet many animals don't have 2 genders. Lizards have 1 (New Mexico Whiptale) to 5 (Utah Side-Blotched Lizard).
The oldest clonal aspen is over 80,000 years old.
4400 Egypt, Sumer, China, Peru, and Mexico were busy civilizations, so the date is impossible!
@InternetDarkLord Evolutionists halfwit..."Inbreeding wipes out species"... then he says... "look at cheetahs". Cheetahs are still alive you bumbling fool. Their numbers have declined because of hunting and destruction of habitat.
@warriorprince1010 Cheetahs are badly inbred, but not nearly as inbred as the entire cat family descending from such tiny numbers 4400 years ago. That would be fatal.
Increasing numbers in such a tiny timespan would not solve the problem.
@InternetDarkLord "but not nearly as inbred as the entire cat family descending from such tiny numbers 4400 years ago. That would be fatal."......You will have to come up with some evidence for those typical evolutionary claims. Cats inbreed, it is only a problem when population numbers are decreasing. Evolutionism claims populations and sizes of animals should be increasing, Yet all we see is decreasing in numbers and size.
@warriorprince1010 Inbreeding is a well documented medical problem all over the world. Japan has high rates of Tay-Sachs, Albinism, Ichthyosis, etc, because it is more inbred than the US.
Evolution does not say populations and sizes of animals increase, it says both respond to their environment.
Do you have PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that clean animals today are 7 times less inbred than the rest?
@InternetDarkLord The Japanese are alive, inbreeding has not wiped them out. Clean animals came from the same two parents also, just a few years before, so we would notice little difference. Try again.
@warriorprince1010 Once again, the Japanese do not descend from 8 people, I was merely documenting inbreeding from a much larger starting point. You asked for evidence of inbreeding.
You don't understand inbreeding, the comment "same two parents also" is why the animals would be inbred in the first place. If clean animals descend from 7 pairs, massive evidence of inbreeding should be everywhere, CITE EVIDENCE>
Unclean animals should be 7 times as inbred, CITE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.
@InternetDarkLord The Japanese come from two parents as all humans do. The Epicanthol fold is found in Africa, Nelson Mandela has them. You do not understand inbreeding is relative. To breed with a sister is bad, to bred with a 12th removed cousin is not so bad. Oh and if genes were perfect then inbreeding would be scientifically fine although socially unacceptable.
@warriorprince1010 Inbreeding would result from 1 or 7 pairs on the Ark, since everyone would be related to those 1 or 7 pairs. Not to mention only 1 family was on the Ark, Noah, his wife, three sons, three wives. Humans would be massively more inbred than anyone in Japan.
If genes were perfect then, CITE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.
Also, if genes were perfect, animals would be perfect swimmers, perfect breath-holders, perfect in resistance to pressure, so the flood could not kill them anyway.
@InternetDarkLord No that is not interbeeding. Interbreeding is only a porblem when close relatives mate. All humans came form two ancestors as Mitochondrial DNA has shown. It has not prevented humans from becoming populous. As I say you have to prove that interbreeding in early states of animals prevents them form increasing their population numbers. You cannot. Even the interbreeding of cheetahs has not wiped them out. Man hunting and destroying their habitats has killed more.
@warriorprince1010 Yes, that is inbreeding, if everyone came from Mr. and Mrs Noah, everyone is related to 2 people. Ditto 1 or 7 pairs.
Mitochondrial DNA shows common ancestors, and that is way too old for the Bible timespan. Cheetahs are only a fraction as inbred as the entire cat family being from one or 7 pairs in a short time.
CITE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that DNA was once perfect, or everything on earth is far more inbred than cheetahs, including people.
@InternetDarkLord Mitochondrial DNA goes back 6000 years proven and tested by Berkley university. If imperfection exists then perfect must at some point have existed ot be possible to exist, This supports creation. The animals on the ark came from two parents of each kind 1600 years before during creation.
@warriorprince1010 No, mitochondrial Eve was cross-checked, she was 200,000 years ago, and that still would not fit the Bible timeline, the Imaginary Flood was another bottleneck.
Imperfection does not imply perfection once existed. Nor does the Bible say all animals were perfect. In fact, if earth life was perfect, they would be gods, since gods are perfect.
The Bible does not even say animals came from 2 parents in the first place. You can't quote fiction right!
@InternetDarkLord No, mitochondrial Eve was 6000 years ago, proven fact,. Evolutionism is simply made up of fraudulent evidence, this is why science has no time for it.
@warriorprince1010 No, read a genetics book. In fact, since you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 grandparents, etc, yet the population was smaller then, there may be, and probably are, more than 1 common ancestor. Mitochondrial Eve was 200,000 years ago.
People have been claiming science is fleeing evolution or Deep Time since Granville Penn in 1825. 186 is enough, thank you.
@InternetDarkLord You have clearly never read an actual science book, merely evolutionary nonsense. Mitochondrial Eve was 6000 old. Science supports creation and always will.
@warriorprince1010 No, mitochondrial DNA mutates at the rate of 1 every 3,500 years. An age as young as 6,000 years is out of the question, although humanity might have many, more recent, common ancestors we can't find.
The oldest clonal aspen is over 80,000 years old.
Many animals do not have 2 genders "Male and female."
Inbreeding from such small number 4400 years ago would be obvious.
4400 years ago, the Chinese, Egyptians, etc, were quite unaware that they were under 6 miles of water.
@InternetDarkLord Mitochondrial DNA mutation rates take us back to 6000 years ago. Evolutionists have simply made up mutation rates as they do everything else. If humans lived 200,000 years ago there would be over 100 billion people on earth and there would be some record of humans alive past 6000 years, we do have that. The Chinese and Egyptian modern history came about around 4300 to 4000 years ago. Anything before that is often myth and records of pre flood times.
@warriorprince1010 No, the rate of mutations is a well known science fact. Otherwise, why the hell discuss mitochondria at all? Why did you mention it as proof?
The rate of population growth is not constant, so your population numbers are bull shit.
Many cultures are older than 5,0000 years old, you are inventing numbers again.
@InternetDarkLord The rate of mutation sis indeed a well known fact, it goes back 6000 years. Glad you accept it. The population numbers fit, they do not need to be constant to be calculated, try again. "5,0000"...not heard of that number, again fantasy. Written first hand history goes back no more than 6000 to 7000 years at most. Evolutionism is based on lies, creation is based on science and morality.
@warriorprince1010 React to what I say, not the voices in your head. The rate of mutation proves 200,000 years. If you don't agree explain mitochondrial dating yourself. Egyptian and Sumerian records go back to 3000 BC, you have not heard because you don't read history books. You never calculated anything. You never cited any science, just generalizations. You often don't know what the Bible even says.
@InternetDarkLord React to science not the hate filled voices in your head. Egyptian records go back to around 4300 years ago. You wish they went back further just as you wish radiometric dating worked, and you wish evolutionism was possible.
@warriorprince1010 I never said anything about radiometric dating, you still react to voices in your head.
If you know that the oldest Egyptian records dates, and I guess thousands of scholars who read hieroglyphics are all wrong, explain your dating technique. What is it?
@InternetDarkLord You get more desperate each post. Egyptian history dates back around 4300 years ago. Dates are not exact but the certainly are not 200,000 years ago like evolutionists claim. C14 dating cannot go back beyond 44000 years as before the flood the atmosphere was different. So science only accepts dates until 4400. This fits creation. As do population numbers.
@Explain how you know that Egyptian history dates back to that time. There are many dating techniques used in archeology, such as dendochronology, geomagnetic dating, sediment analysis, the Milankovitch cycle dating, and so on, so explain yourself, I'm waiting for an answer.
200,000 years is from mitochonrial dating, so explain that, too.
Name the Egyptologists who accept 4400, I want names.
@InternetDarkLord 200,000 years is from the imagination of evolutionists. 6500 for Mitochondrial DNA is proven scientifically. Egyptians began around 4200 years ago, 200 years after the flood.
@InternetDarkLord 6500 is science, based on modern mutation rates we can study. The evolutionists way is based on the fact they think evolutionism happened. Egyptian history is based on the bible and historical accounts. It is not 200,000 years any way you look at it.
@InternetDarkLord You are clearly obsessed. Science has clearly shown mutation rates going back 6500 years, this is a fact. Can be tested every day of the year.
The bible belongs on a shelf next to Greek Mythology. It has promoted paranoia and ignorance through the ages. Science is always our best method for discovery. Watch "Religious fanatic debates Atheist" on my channel.
I am so happy you made this video. I have considered many similar concepts. I haven't ever been very public with my thoughts on these issues. I breathed a huge sigh of relief hearing you speak about the ark story.
yall are stupid if there is no god yall would not be here you retards.the bible is so true i cant wait till jesus comes back and i am goin to see yall suffer and thrown into the fiery lake then we will see what is bull....
A lot of the Bible stories that fall apart when actually examined live because people don't truly know the complete story, question or examine the story. When you are brought up to have this belief-system, you often don't even question it. It is just assumed to be true. When I bothered to actually try to make sense out of the religion I grew up with, it became impossible to logically defend. I no longer have these beliefs without any proof. Religion & God's are just impossible to defend.
It was Santa with his sled that transported all the animals to the Ark; he charged a nominal fee and Rudolph kicked it up in high gear..............this is what really happend, I swear..... I really really belive this........... Oh wait, it was Muhamad on his white flying horse, thats it, Muhammad with his 6 year old wife navigating. Finally got it right....and if you dont believe this your an infidel and I will blow you up!!!! Allah akbar
By ignoring that God is Almighty, this video tries to discredit the Bible on the basis of naturalistic (if not satanic) reasoning. However, on the basis of faith in God´s omnipotence, there are possible explanations to every story that is written in Genesis. For instance, since the ark of Noah was in God´s almighty hands, no water could get into it, and since God is also omnipresent, he could transport each chosen animal in a blink of an eye from any distance into the ark.
@JewTubeUsername ~ The possible explanations in my previous comment are godly since they are consistent with the Bible, while yours "He could do this, or He could do that" have nothing to do with the biblical story about the Flood and the ark of Noah.
Great video. Without using complex vocabulary to explain the evidence of that the Flood never happened, you used logical situations and realistic facts to explain your points. Great series!
Haha! @ 2:30 If God gave the plans to how to build a ship don't you think it would be perfect. I mean he is God right so he is all knowing right. I mean why would people worship a God that couldn't even build a ship doesn't make sense. This guy is trying to put limits to a God, if he had limits on what he could do then he would not be a God. This guy's arguement is stupid since he is using human standards and applying it to a God.
You put human standards on your deity and you say he created you in his image and then you say that's not putting human standards on a deity? Get Real. Think!
yes you moron! If god was real and loved all humans why didnt he apear in the americasm asia, and africa? all those countries never heard of god until the white men came. so hells manority is black, native american and asian. heaven is mostely white.
You obviously dont know what the word truth means, or what a fact is. YOU should "read & learn" something other than the bible and maybe you'll start to understand how life & this world works.
I'm agreeing with you here, the story is bullshit, and it really disproves a literal Christian interpretation of the faith.
But don't say evolution is bad with Christians mate, say creationists, loads of Christians I know consider the theory of evolution and natural selection are correct, it makes atheists (like me), agnostics, non-believers and other faith believers, appear ignorant.
Let's be honest surely there is a bigger thing than any of these.But also let's agree that The bible is a pack of awful, violent, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist litterature, of dubious authorship..It became this way when man interfere with the origins which I think made more sense.than book is over 5000 years and there are so many contradictions that it's wrong not to question it!!
Belief in the Bible and Noah's ark requires a bit more intellect than this fool has! He just doesn't get it. The ark is resting in the mountains of Ararat in eastern Turkey. It is 515 ft. long, of now petrified wood held together with iron rivets. Anchor stones are also present. Ron Wyatt's team made this discovery.
There's some petrified wood on the top of a mountain and you immediately assume it's this mythical ark? Kind of a stretch, don't you think?
I mean, the idea that all the animals in the world at the time lived within walking distance of Noah's house. Riiiight.
Also, if this god was all powerful and wanted to destroy the world, why didn't he just immmolate all the sinners, or 'erase' them some other way, thereby saving all the innocent animals and plants, and saving Noah all that trouble?
If God had simply vaporized all the sinners, there would have been no evidence left to prove that He judged the world. But there is proof: the oil and gas deposits, coal deposits containing human artifacts, and many other physical evidence. Noah's ark is located in eastern Turkey. Check out Ron Wayatt on the net.
Ron Wyatt was not a professional archaeologist and since he made some rather great discoveries, he was most likely the object of some jealousy by the so called "experts". Also, it doesn't take millions of years for oil, gas and coal deposits to form. It can be done much sooner. What takes millions of years to do? Were you there? This idiot Gisburne could not be more wrong about his assertions. It is laughable!
Ron Wyatt had no qualifications or training and held no professional position. His claims are dismissed by scientists, historians, biblical scholars and Christian leaders EVEN IN HIS OWN Seventh-day Adventist Church. It's not about jealousy, it's about qualifications, REAL science, and mostly about not being a religious nutball.
Atheists will say anything to denounce the existance of God. But since people like you missed out on the first judgement in the days of Noah, you don't have to worry about missing out on the next one! You mention 'real' science. What is that, evolution? Don't make me laugh! Evolution is easily refuted by the evidence leaving only: Creation!
Uh-huh...and creationists don't do and say ANYTHING to prove god's existence (It is an e, by the way), including turning your backs on reason, science, thinking for yourself? You really ARE deluded.
There are MOUNTAINS of evidence for evolution. Evidence for creation? None.
Sorry chief. If all you've got is the bible and some pretend-scientists - I'll take reason, science, and rational thought.
But we'll just have to agree to disagree. We won't convince each other on YouTube!
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Read "In the Beginning", by Walt Brown. That should convince you that creation is right and evolution is a dead theory acceptable only to atheists and not serious scientists. Evolution is like a life preserver for atheists to hang on to. Its all they have! You say that evolution has 'mountains' of evidence? Too bad that most of it is religious and not scientific.
I've read Origin of Species, A Brief History of Time, Climbing Mount Improbable, The Selfish Gene, Wonderful Life, Flamingo's Smile, and several histories of 'the world.' I sincerely doubt that a book by a young earth creationist is going to change my mind. Especially one which is 'self-published' and therefore has not had to undergo qualified peer review.
Again, he's not qualified, and he's been discredited by REAL scientists.
I can say the same for you. But you should start by reading respected authors and real scientists in the field and stop believing the nonsense blathered out by people without the credentials to back up their assertions. Good luck to you, too!
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Ron Wyatt deserves great credit for the discovery and you are just a dumb atheist. Utube is loaded with atheist scum peddling their lies to everyone!! They refuse to acknowledge the true facts of life and scoff at the greatest authority: the Bible!!
The bible is a pack of awful, violent, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist nonsense, of dubious authorship. Study its history for yourself. Read Bart Ehrman. he's a bible scholar, he'll tell you. In fact, there are some interviews and debates here on YouTube featuring him.
Wow! Even after all of the evidence that has been presented & proven to you, all of the lies & contradictions that have been exposed all throughout the bible, you STILL can't accept the truth about the bible. Its really sad. I really feel sorry for you. But its not your fault. You've been brainwashed since birth. Hypnotized. Maybe one day you'll wake up & face reality.
Your problem is that you are not academic. You are not a scholar and live in a mental trap, thereby, in fear of taking risks in life outside of your bubble of simplistic beliefs. Look, you have to grow up one day and maybe you will be shocked into it.
It's and illustration. In case you haven't noticed the bible is very symbolic and figurative. You shouldn't take things so literally. That's called naivety.
Genesis Chapter 1 says man and woman were created one the sixth day. Chapter 2 say God had Adam name all the animals before Eve was created. That would have taken much longer than a 24 hour day. The word day is used many times in the bible to refer to an unspecified length of time and it makes logical sense to assume it is figurative here.
Well, given that God is all powerful, he can be any number of facets of the same being. The Holy Ghost is another facet. St Patrick described God as a 3 leaf clover, 3 leaves but the one plant.
Come on, it's not hard. One's imagination can create anything. I'm agnostic and even I understand it.
I always wondered just what kind of sacrifice Jesus was if they knew he was coming back? I would gamble everything I had if I knew I was getting it back, it would hardly be a bet huh?
Anybody who doesnt even consider what hes saying as some sort of evidence or that doesnt acknowledge how it makes perfect sense to the fact that noahs ark is ridiculous are close minded.
Some people flock from miles around to worship the face of Jesus or mother Theresa that has been found in a currant bun or piece of toast. I myself pulled the lid off a tub of margarine this morning and lo! There did I see the PERFECT form of a religious face. I tried to deny it. I tried to explain to myself that it was an illusion. But no. Even though the face I saw appeared in supermarket own-brand margarine... I can't believe it's not Buddha.
Jesus is on the cross and beckons Peter to come to him. He tries, but is beaten back by Roman centurions. Jesus beckons again, but Peter is again battered by the the guards. Still, Jesus beckons to Peter; "Peter. I.. must.. speak with you.." Peter summons up a rush of defiance and hurls himself through the guards and finishes at the foot of the cross. Jesus looks down on Peter, then into the distance. He looks at Peter for one final time and says... "Peter.. I can see your house from here!"
Ge6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
Ge6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
Ge6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
If God can make a universe, he can find a way to accomplish the Noah's Ark thing too, just like he can make lepers whole.
Jesus freaks try so hard to fit irrational thought into rational logic:) 2 white people created the entire population and noah got 2 of every animal is absurd! The problem is these people were force fed this garbage since birth so it will always be with them and no matter what EVIDENCE you find....they are taught to instinctively REJECT SCIENCE AND FACTUAL INFORMATION!! Meanwhile you got GAY PRIESTS RAPING AND MOLESTING YOUNG BOYS..LOL!
Hey, if you don't want to go to heaven, you don't have to. But I can assure you that you'll see me partying up there! Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.
But how about if we doing many sins without repentance [murdering,false witness,adultery etc.] but still believe in him[Jesus as God]?Could we still be save?
You are simply deluded. Allow me to explain. All creationists are superstitious by definition. Your belief, you'll be 'partying' in heaven is, by your own definition, no less superstitious then me believing that I have a pair of 'lucky socks' because I have formed a link between wearing them and good fortune. Thus, I always take my 'lucky socks' everywhere. NO, I don't. I'm a rationalist. Wearing 'lucky socks' has no effect. It's just an irrationality that has the appearance of sense.
As a lucky sock worshiper, you're still forced to justify the existence of an immense amount of energy in the universe when you take the law of conservation of energy into consideration. That energy had to come from somewhere, at least us creationists understand that an infinitely powerful (and jealous) God put the energy there. And what have your lucky socks ever done for me or anyone else except smell up the room because you refuse to wash them?
IsntThatAmusing; "As a lucky sock worshiper" (sic)
I'm not a lucky sock wearer. I thought I'd made that clear. I'm a rationalist. I can look at a Niagara Falls, If I so wish, and ask the question: "All that water must be coming from somewhere?" I do not then make the irrational leap toward "godidit". Ever see 'Deal Or No Deal'? Time after time we see people placing faith in numbers significant only to them. They lose, or win. Same difference. It's a lottery. Not divine intervention.
TITOWU: "I'm a rationalist." For a rationalist, you're pretty irrational to think the universe happened by accident. A quick overview of quantum physics ought to convince you that SOMEONE is behind the scenes. But, like I often say, to each his own. God is alive, and he would prefer if you worship him. But he's got a pit for everyone who won't.
Can you smell that..? Is it sheep, ox, cow..? No. It's definitely bullshit. I suppose you are going to spew (erroneously) the laws of thermodynamics? Prick. What I fucking hate is you bell-ends smugly insinuating that you're off to jolly old heaven to drink tea and bang tambourines with jesus; and I'm going to a barbecue. It's a threat. Doesn't make you a nice christian, does it? Tosser.
blah blah blah, just cuz you hate God doesn't mean you have to take it out on the rest of us. God exists, like it or not, and Jesus is his son. He's saved us by dying on the cross for us. He rose from the dead. People saw him. He sent the Holy Spirit. Get used to it and get over your bitterness about life the universe and everything. I'm no tosser, I'm just trying to help you avoid eternal torment in hell.
God will prove his own existence to you in his own time, as you'll soon see. I only hope you'll survive the encounter and worship him when its all said and done. God is everywhere, you can't avoid him.
IsntThatAmusing, is it safe to say that you agree that God has done everything in his power to 'save' us? If so, how? I know your answer, so I'll save the response: By sacrificing his only son. Well, why does it have to be bloodshed? Why sacrifice of a human? I don't believe your God has done everything in their power to save us quote unquote infadels. If he or SHE had, trust me, no one would be questioning the existance. I urge you to have an open mind and consult your facts for future topics.
He didn't save the Jews from Hitler, did he? Or the victims of the Columbine shooting. Or the inmates of the GULAGs. Or the thousands tirtured to death in his name by the inquisition. Or anyone from the WTC on 11/9/2001. Or, indeed, anyone else.
A self-proclaimed messiah died on the cross. Big deal. There were so many "messiahs" around Judea in the 1st century that the Romans were permanantly exhausted from banging in nails.
Jesus! All I wanted was to play with the mouse, then and you come along and sever it's spinal column! Outstanding. You'll get your case of beer for that one...
Careful. You are beginning to sound a bit 'old testament' with your 'mighty club'. Funny though, as an atheist, I have never felt the need to rape or murder anyone. I give what I can afford to charities and yet I am condemned to hell, apparently. Why do I need 'god' to possess a moral compass?
"A quick overview of quantum physics ought to convince you that SOMEONE is behind the scenes."
You have two choices: Justify that statement scientifically (after all, quantum physics is a branch of science and it doesn't mention "anyone behind it") or accept the fact that I'm going to call you a deluded moron and laugh at you.
My name is Gizbourne blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, i'm a very simple person, i hate Christians, i won't go into how anything could possibly be feasible other than the way i dictate, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah but i know i'm right, because i'm so smart and pretty!!! Let me ask you a really dumb question Gizzy, what happens if the animals were in fact very young and small ...say eggs, puppies and kittens? DoH! Eggs don't have to eat, puppies and kittens drink milk. LMAO PAWNED!!
Oh and hey what about this problem, what if Pangaea hadn't broke up before the flood? Wow what a epiphany huh!!! Wouldn't make the gathering of animals very tough would it???? Your right, our logic, common sense, and reasoning is something you couldn't possibly fathom. You are too simple for us.
two final words for creationist to look up, then i am leaving it alone
....Gobekli Tepe.
godnmyhands 1 month ago
plus all the contentents were still in one single mass up till the flood. so distance between say africa and north america would not be so big a deal to make journey to mesopotamia, the animals could actually have walked (EZ!). furthermore, the fauna of earth was much more diverse before the flood. ROLF.. hold on i can come up with all kinds of ludicrous stories, to try and make the grand daddy of myths work.
godnmyhands 1 month ago
@RationalResponse
Ummm.... your over thinking this. The invisible sky wizard would simply have waved his amazing invisi-wand (newest technology of that time) and all the animals would have arrived in their stables on the boat in an instant (in hibernation, thus no feeding necessary). maybe he will repeat this for this upcoming flood, then you will better understand the science in the bibel. ROFL!
godnmyhands 1 month ago in playlist Creationism & Noah's Ark
Aye 2 of each beaties, 2 tigers, 2 woodlice, 2 vampire bats, 2 woodpeckers...
Thoughtland 2 months ago
Given only the 3 given options, I am forced to select the 3rd. However you could have weakened it down a little. Instead of 'The story, and the book it comes from, are 100% bullshit!' you might have written 'The story is 100% bogus!' - The fact that remains is 100% true: if Gods intentions were to eliminate wickedness and sin we look at the biggest faillure ever. One might have expected better from an almighty, all-seeiing, omnipresent God.
henkpietersma 3 months ago in playlist Noah's Ark and other Religious Nonsense- Nick Gisburne 2
I hope that most people know that the Noah's Ark story is just an old fairy tale. I don't think its worth the time to discuss it, since it belongs right with the "flat earth" believers.
joemarch08 5 months ago 2
Keep it simple: in the Bible, God says his reason for destroying every living thing on earth was to eliminate wickedness and sin. Now ask yourself, do we stil have wickedness and sin today? Of course we do! So, what are the possible reasons for this?
1) God is incompetent.
2) God just likes killing things.
3) The story, and the book it comes from, are 100% bullshit!
Which one did you pick?
oldfartrants 6 months ago 3
@oldfartrants
oh! That would a big 3) -the correct answer.
joemarch08 5 months ago
@oldfartrants I also pick 3.
InternetDarkLord 5 months ago
Your calculations underestimate the logistics problems. Paleontologists have calculated 500,000 species of dinosaurs existed in earth's history. Talk about tight space!
InternetDarkLord 10 months ago
Question: If the flood availed 15 cubits, and this was the minimum amount of water above mountains needed for the flood, why is the summit of Mount Everest limestone? If less than 25 feet of water can make solid rock so fast, we should see it right now happening all over the world.
InternetDarkLord 10 months ago
I just love it when creotards shout something is true over and over, then leave when you ask specific questions.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
1. Two of every kind, not of every species.
2. Animals were evenly spread out at that time in history.
3. The climate at the time of the flood was still perfect paradise, so all animals could survive in all parts of the world.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 1. Kinds don't exist.
2. Fossils are not evenly spread out, so that is impossible. Did the flood sort them out?
3. There is no evidence of this. Geologic layers have different biomes in time and space.
4. Genesis says the pairs were "male and female", but some animals don't have 2 genders.
5. Genesis says the pairs were 7 of clean, 1 unclean, but a. that would leave everything massively inbred, b. unclean animals would be 7 times as inbred.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord 1. Kinds do exist, they are known as families in modern taxonomy. 2. Fossils being evenly spread out would matter if every animal that died was fossilized, they are not. 99% of animals in the flood were not fossilized. 3. There are no geological columns. They exist in the imaginations of evolutionists and not in nature. 4. Most mammals have male and female. 5. Inbreeding was not an issue.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010
Why would you put your idiocy on display for the world to see?
None of your assertions have the slightest bit of evidence to back them.
odinata 11 months ago
@odinata All the points I have made are facts of science.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010
Asserting that "kind" is equivalent to "Family" is not scientific fact.
Asserting that the geological column does not exist is not a fact.
Asserting that the Earth is 6000 years old is not a fact.
Sorry.
Not much of a warrior, are ya :)
odinata 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Google "asexual animals" or "inbreeding" and read some science facts.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord None of these prevented the story of the flood from happening. Try again.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Fatal inbreeding? Yup, that means it never happened.
It's impossible to pair animals "male and female?" Yup, never happened if its impossible.
Millions of years passed since an event 4,000 years ago? Never happened.
And so on.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Inbreeding is not a problem in the animal kingdom if populations are increasing, inbreeding is common. 4400 years since the flood and everything fits. Science is happy with creation.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Inbreeding would not be prevented by an increasing population. In fact, that is what normally happens in an inbred population like cheetahs.
Science has discredited creation. Genesis says the pairs were "male and female" yet many animals don't have 2 genders. Lizards have 1 (New Mexico Whiptale) to 5 (Utah Side-Blotched Lizard).
The oldest clonal aspen is over 80,000 years old.
4400 Egypt, Sumer, China, Peru, and Mexico were busy civilizations, so the date is impossible!
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Evolutionists halfwit..."Inbreeding wipes out species"... then he says... "look at cheetahs". Cheetahs are still alive you bumbling fool. Their numbers have declined because of hunting and destruction of habitat.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Cheetahs are badly inbred, but not nearly as inbred as the entire cat family descending from such tiny numbers 4400 years ago. That would be fatal.
Increasing numbers in such a tiny timespan would not solve the problem.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord "but not nearly as inbred as the entire cat family descending from such tiny numbers 4400 years ago. That would be fatal."......You will have to come up with some evidence for those typical evolutionary claims. Cats inbreed, it is only a problem when population numbers are decreasing. Evolutionism claims populations and sizes of animals should be increasing, Yet all we see is decreasing in numbers and size.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Inbreeding is a well documented medical problem all over the world. Japan has high rates of Tay-Sachs, Albinism, Ichthyosis, etc, because it is more inbred than the US.
Evolution does not say populations and sizes of animals increase, it says both respond to their environment.
Do you have PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that clean animals today are 7 times less inbred than the rest?
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord The Japanese are alive, inbreeding has not wiped them out. Clean animals came from the same two parents also, just a few years before, so we would notice little difference. Try again.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Once again, the Japanese do not descend from 8 people, I was merely documenting inbreeding from a much larger starting point. You asked for evidence of inbreeding.
You don't understand inbreeding, the comment "same two parents also" is why the animals would be inbred in the first place. If clean animals descend from 7 pairs, massive evidence of inbreeding should be everywhere, CITE EVIDENCE>
Unclean animals should be 7 times as inbred, CITE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord The Japanese come from two parents as all humans do. The Epicanthol fold is found in Africa, Nelson Mandela has them. You do not understand inbreeding is relative. To breed with a sister is bad, to bred with a 12th removed cousin is not so bad. Oh and if genes were perfect then inbreeding would be scientifically fine although socially unacceptable.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Inbreeding would result from 1 or 7 pairs on the Ark, since everyone would be related to those 1 or 7 pairs. Not to mention only 1 family was on the Ark, Noah, his wife, three sons, three wives. Humans would be massively more inbred than anyone in Japan.
If genes were perfect then, CITE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.
Also, if genes were perfect, animals would be perfect swimmers, perfect breath-holders, perfect in resistance to pressure, so the flood could not kill them anyway.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord No that is not interbeeding. Interbreeding is only a porblem when close relatives mate. All humans came form two ancestors as Mitochondrial DNA has shown. It has not prevented humans from becoming populous. As I say you have to prove that interbreeding in early states of animals prevents them form increasing their population numbers. You cannot. Even the interbreeding of cheetahs has not wiped them out. Man hunting and destroying their habitats has killed more.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Yes, that is inbreeding, if everyone came from Mr. and Mrs Noah, everyone is related to 2 people. Ditto 1 or 7 pairs.
Mitochondrial DNA shows common ancestors, and that is way too old for the Bible timespan. Cheetahs are only a fraction as inbred as the entire cat family being from one or 7 pairs in a short time.
CITE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that DNA was once perfect, or everything on earth is far more inbred than cheetahs, including people.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Mitochondrial DNA goes back 6000 years proven and tested by Berkley university. If imperfection exists then perfect must at some point have existed ot be possible to exist, This supports creation. The animals on the ark came from two parents of each kind 1600 years before during creation.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 No, mitochondrial Eve was cross-checked, she was 200,000 years ago, and that still would not fit the Bible timeline, the Imaginary Flood was another bottleneck.
Imperfection does not imply perfection once existed. Nor does the Bible say all animals were perfect. In fact, if earth life was perfect, they would be gods, since gods are perfect.
The Bible does not even say animals came from 2 parents in the first place. You can't quote fiction right!
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord No, mitochondrial Eve was 6000 years ago, proven fact,. Evolutionism is simply made up of fraudulent evidence, this is why science has no time for it.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 No, read a genetics book. In fact, since you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 grandparents, etc, yet the population was smaller then, there may be, and probably are, more than 1 common ancestor. Mitochondrial Eve was 200,000 years ago.
People have been claiming science is fleeing evolution or Deep Time since Granville Penn in 1825. 186 is enough, thank you.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord You have clearly never read an actual science book, merely evolutionary nonsense. Mitochondrial Eve was 6000 old. Science supports creation and always will.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 No, mitochondrial DNA mutates at the rate of 1 every 3,500 years. An age as young as 6,000 years is out of the question, although humanity might have many, more recent, common ancestors we can't find.
The oldest clonal aspen is over 80,000 years old.
Many animals do not have 2 genders "Male and female."
Inbreeding from such small number 4400 years ago would be obvious.
4400 years ago, the Chinese, Egyptians, etc, were quite unaware that they were under 6 miles of water.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Mitochondrial DNA mutation rates take us back to 6000 years ago. Evolutionists have simply made up mutation rates as they do everything else. If humans lived 200,000 years ago there would be over 100 billion people on earth and there would be some record of humans alive past 6000 years, we do have that. The Chinese and Egyptian modern history came about around 4300 to 4000 years ago. Anything before that is often myth and records of pre flood times.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 No, the rate of mutations is a well known science fact. Otherwise, why the hell discuss mitochondria at all? Why did you mention it as proof?
The rate of population growth is not constant, so your population numbers are bull shit.
Many cultures are older than 5,0000 years old, you are inventing numbers again.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord The rate of mutation sis indeed a well known fact, it goes back 6000 years. Glad you accept it. The population numbers fit, they do not need to be constant to be calculated, try again. "5,0000"...not heard of that number, again fantasy. Written first hand history goes back no more than 6000 to 7000 years at most. Evolutionism is based on lies, creation is based on science and morality.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 React to what I say, not the voices in your head. The rate of mutation proves 200,000 years. If you don't agree explain mitochondrial dating yourself. Egyptian and Sumerian records go back to 3000 BC, you have not heard because you don't read history books. You never calculated anything. You never cited any science, just generalizations. You often don't know what the Bible even says.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord React to science not the hate filled voices in your head. Egyptian records go back to around 4300 years ago. You wish they went back further just as you wish radiometric dating worked, and you wish evolutionism was possible.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 I never said anything about radiometric dating, you still react to voices in your head.
If you know that the oldest Egyptian records dates, and I guess thousands of scholars who read hieroglyphics are all wrong, explain your dating technique. What is it?
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord You get more desperate each post. Egyptian history dates back around 4300 years ago. Dates are not exact but the certainly are not 200,000 years ago like evolutionists claim. C14 dating cannot go back beyond 44000 years as before the flood the atmosphere was different. So science only accepts dates until 4400. This fits creation. As do population numbers.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@Explain how you know that Egyptian history dates back to that time. There are many dating techniques used in archeology, such as dendochronology, geomagnetic dating, sediment analysis, the Milankovitch cycle dating, and so on, so explain yourself, I'm waiting for an answer.
200,000 years is from mitochonrial dating, so explain that, too.
Name the Egyptologists who accept 4400, I want names.
Explain how you know the population numbers.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord 200,000 years is from the imagination of evolutionists. 6500 for Mitochondrial DNA is proven scientifically. Egyptians began around 4200 years ago, 200 years after the flood.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 200,000 years is science. If you disagree, explain how mitochondrial dating works. Just tell me how you got that number.
How do you know that Egypt began then, what is your dating technique?
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord 6500 is science, based on modern mutation rates we can study. The evolutionists way is based on the fact they think evolutionism happened. Egyptian history is based on the bible and historical accounts. It is not 200,000 years any way you look at it.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 I can prove you are wrong: explain mitochondrial DNA dating. You don't know what you are talking about.
Egyptian history started 5,000 years ago. Once again, I can prove it with one sentence. Name the Egyptologists who say your number.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Mitachondrial DNA is base don data gain on mutation rates, this goes back 6500 years as Thomas Parsons has proven.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 No, the University of Leeds disproved his research. If you disagree explain how mitochondrial dating works.
Also, if the Bible were true, Noah's wife would be the last mitochondrial ancestor of humanity, so the dating would disprove the Bible
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord No science has refuted it, some evolutionists may say it is untrue because it does not agre with their mythical beliefs system.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 No, science has established over 200,000 years. Would you explain your dating please? You cannot.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord You are clearly obsessed. Science has clearly shown mutation rates going back 6500 years, this is a fact. Can be tested every day of the year.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 I am not obsessed I am waiting for an answer to my question. How is it tested? How was it tested "going back 6500 years?"
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Correction: The 3 other wives would cause 3 mitochondrial ancestors 4400 years ago.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Families take millions of years to evolve. The Flood myth refers to doves and ravens etc, which are not families.
2. 1% of fossilized animals would be spread out evenly anyway, so what is your point?
3. Look at a roadcut, canyon, quarry, etc, strata are directly observable.
4.The Bible never says mammals, so what is your point?
5.1 or 7 pairs would cause massive, in fact fatal, inbreeding. We would see it today.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
Science, history and morality supports the bible.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Should we execute witches, or own slaves then?
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Speaking of morality, why have a flood at all? Why not just punish everyone in a humane manner instead?
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
The bible belongs on a shelf next to Greek Mythology. It has promoted paranoia and ignorance through the ages. Science is always our best method for discovery. Watch "Religious fanatic debates Atheist" on my channel.
Sweence 11 months ago
Genesis says that pairs were "male and female", but some animals don't have 2 genders.
"Kinds" would be massively inbred, the broader a kind is defined, the worse.
Genesis says there were 7 pairs of clean animals, resulting in massive overcrowding.
Clean animals today should 7 times less inbred. Evidence?
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
@InternetDarkLord On the plus side, I did see the sloth at the National Zoo move. The zookeepers were astonished.
InternetDarkLord 11 months ago
I am so happy you made this video. I have considered many similar concepts. I haven't ever been very public with my thoughts on these issues. I breathed a huge sigh of relief hearing you speak about the ark story.
JimiKiwi 1 year ago
yall are stupid if there is no god yall would not be here you retards.the bible is so true i cant wait till jesus comes back and i am goin to see yall suffer and thrown into the fiery lake then we will see what is bull....
hokieboy8888 1 year ago
@hokieboy8888 Ha ha ha! XD
Misterb0z 1 year ago
pingouins don't care about flood, like fish
jam63112 1 year ago
A lot of the Bible stories that fall apart when actually examined live because people don't truly know the complete story, question or examine the story. When you are brought up to have this belief-system, you often don't even question it. It is just assumed to be true. When I bothered to actually try to make sense out of the religion I grew up with, it became impossible to logically defend. I no longer have these beliefs without any proof. Religion & God's are just impossible to defend.
orangemod 1 year ago
It was Santa with his sled that transported all the animals to the Ark; he charged a nominal fee and Rudolph kicked it up in high gear..............this is what really happend, I swear..... I really really belive this........... Oh wait, it was Muhamad on his white flying horse, thats it, Muhammad with his 6 year old wife navigating. Finally got it right....and if you dont believe this your an infidel and I will blow you up!!!! Allah akbar
knighttc1 1 year ago
About the dinos, the craziest theory I've heard is that Noah took the eggs. Really.
Nocturnalux 1 year ago
Fuck I love this series. It's so funny. And brilliant. Anyone who still adheres to this DUMB bible story is a fucking MORON!
Domzdream 1 year ago
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joeglimmix 1 year ago
By ignoring that God is Almighty, this video tries to discredit the Bible on the basis of naturalistic (if not satanic) reasoning. However, on the basis of faith in God´s omnipotence, there are possible explanations to every story that is written in Genesis. For instance, since the ark of Noah was in God´s almighty hands, no water could get into it, and since God is also omnipresent, he could transport each chosen animal in a blink of an eye from any distance into the ark.
mikilavush 1 year ago
@mikilavush He could also have put them into stasis and made them float in the air til the flood was over.
or he could just have wiped the earth clean and recreate the good animals, as well as Noah, etc.
But hey, let me guess. It wouldn't be godly if I some human like me can reason and speculate about it, right?
JewTubeUsername 1 year ago
@JewTubeUsername ~ The possible explanations in my previous comment are godly since they are consistent with the Bible, while yours "He could do this, or He could do that" have nothing to do with the biblical story about the Flood and the ark of Noah.
mikilavush 1 year ago
@mikilavush
You don't really believe this silly story, do you?
Domzdream 1 year ago
antichrist burn in hell!
reigran17 2 years ago
@reigran17
You're kidding, right? You'er being sarcastic, correct?
Domzdream 1 year ago
this is hilarious lol; so true hahaha
fusionfusion 3 years ago
lol great vid. noah forgot the dinosaurs, he was 800 years old lol you forget things when your that old :P
sambudwiser 3 years ago
Great video. Without using complex vocabulary to explain the evidence of that the Flood never happened, you used logical situations and realistic facts to explain your points. Great series!
TheOtherNetwork 3 years ago
Haha! @ 2:30 If God gave the plans to how to build a ship don't you think it would be perfect. I mean he is God right so he is all knowing right. I mean why would people worship a God that couldn't even build a ship doesn't make sense. This guy is trying to put limits to a God, if he had limits on what he could do then he would not be a God. This guy's arguement is stupid since he is using human standards and applying it to a God.
GetREALnThink 3 years ago
You put human standards on your deity and you say he created you in his image and then you say that's not putting human standards on a deity? Get Real. Think!
truvelocity 2 years ago
@GetREALnThink What about God's wife?
Yahweh is found all over Israel before 650 BC with his wife Esherah, & with his brothers AKA baals, it also means mountains.
Before Josiah united the Canaanites, they were polytheistic. The OT was even written in that period in a couple of generations.
In fact archaeology finds no influx of new culture into the region, just a steady development of Canaanite society.
It was only when Judah fell the the Hebrew concept was born.
Sorry, but religion cons people.
marsCubed 1 year ago
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macias9133 3 years ago
yes you moron! If god was real and loved all humans why didnt he apear in the americasm asia, and africa? all those countries never heard of god until the white men came. so hells manority is black, native american and asian. heaven is mostely white.
sambudwiser 3 years ago
You obviously dont know what the word truth means, or what a fact is. YOU should "read & learn" something other than the bible and maybe you'll start to understand how life & this world works.
Two3Productions 3 years ago
Sorry to say this... but i think the entire bible is bullshit :x
ranqemax 3 years ago 12
@ranqemax
haha. Dont be sorry. It is!
Domzdream 1 year ago
Well it wasn't necessary for marine animals or insects to get on the ark. Because they could survive the flood. Right?
jityr2 3 years ago
and how did noah get the whales on the boat?
FutileFreak 3 years ago
I'm agreeing with you here, the story is bullshit, and it really disproves a literal Christian interpretation of the faith.
But don't say evolution is bad with Christians mate, say creationists, loads of Christians I know consider the theory of evolution and natural selection are correct, it makes atheists (like me), agnostics, non-believers and other faith believers, appear ignorant.
Nice video btw :)
200points 3 years ago
Let's be honest surely there is a bigger thing than any of these.But also let's agree that The bible is a pack of awful, violent, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist litterature, of dubious authorship..It became this way when man interfere with the origins which I think made more sense.than book is over 5000 years and there are so many contradictions that it's wrong not to question it!!
80Perkele 3 years ago
Holyfuckingchrist, christians are stupid!!
Domzdream 3 years ago
Belief in the Bible and Noah's ark requires a bit more intellect than this fool has! He just doesn't get it. The ark is resting in the mountains of Ararat in eastern Turkey. It is 515 ft. long, of now petrified wood held together with iron rivets. Anchor stones are also present. Ron Wyatt's team made this discovery.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Please, enlighten us then genius. What specifically is he wrong about, and how did Noah pull of this physically impossible feat?
cyxgun 3 years ago
There's some petrified wood on the top of a mountain and you immediately assume it's this mythical ark? Kind of a stretch, don't you think?
I mean, the idea that all the animals in the world at the time lived within walking distance of Noah's house. Riiiight.
Also, if this god was all powerful and wanted to destroy the world, why didn't he just immmolate all the sinners, or 'erase' them some other way, thereby saving all the innocent animals and plants, and saving Noah all that trouble?
Andraste77 3 years ago
If God had simply vaporized all the sinners, there would have been no evidence left to prove that He judged the world. But there is proof: the oil and gas deposits, coal deposits containing human artifacts, and many other physical evidence. Noah's ark is located in eastern Turkey. Check out Ron Wayatt on the net.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Oil and gas deposits are from the flood, 6,000 years ago? Sorry, darling - not buying it. It takes MILLIONS of years for that kind of phenomenon.
Ron Wyatt is not a serious, or respected archaeologist. His agenda is clearly to make archaeological evidence "fit" the bible. He's a crank.
Andraste77 3 years ago 2
Ron Wyatt was not a professional archaeologist and since he made some rather great discoveries, he was most likely the object of some jealousy by the so called "experts". Also, it doesn't take millions of years for oil, gas and coal deposits to form. It can be done much sooner. What takes millions of years to do? Were you there? This idiot Gisburne could not be more wrong about his assertions. It is laughable!
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Ron Wyatt had no qualifications or training and held no professional position. His claims are dismissed by scientists, historians, biblical scholars and Christian leaders EVEN IN HIS OWN Seventh-day Adventist Church. It's not about jealousy, it's about qualifications, REAL science, and mostly about not being a religious nutball.
Andraste77 3 years ago 7
Atheists will say anything to denounce the existance of God. But since people like you missed out on the first judgement in the days of Noah, you don't have to worry about missing out on the next one! You mention 'real' science. What is that, evolution? Don't make me laugh! Evolution is easily refuted by the evidence leaving only: Creation!
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Uh-huh...and creationists don't do and say ANYTHING to prove god's existence (It is an e, by the way), including turning your backs on reason, science, thinking for yourself? You really ARE deluded.
There are MOUNTAINS of evidence for evolution. Evidence for creation? None.
Sorry chief. If all you've got is the bible and some pretend-scientists - I'll take reason, science, and rational thought.
But we'll just have to agree to disagree. We won't convince each other on YouTube!
Andraste77 3 years ago 3
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Read "In the Beginning", by Walt Brown. That should convince you that creation is right and evolution is a dead theory acceptable only to atheists and not serious scientists. Evolution is like a life preserver for atheists to hang on to. Its all they have! You say that evolution has 'mountains' of evidence? Too bad that most of it is religious and not scientific.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
I've read Origin of Species, A Brief History of Time, Climbing Mount Improbable, The Selfish Gene, Wonderful Life, Flamingo's Smile, and several histories of 'the world.' I sincerely doubt that a book by a young earth creationist is going to change my mind. Especially one which is 'self-published' and therefore has not had to undergo qualified peer review.
Again, he's not qualified, and he's been discredited by REAL scientists.
But I'll find a copy and read it for laughs.
Andraste77 3 years ago
You have alot of learning to do. Good luck.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
I can say the same for you. But you should start by reading respected authors and real scientists in the field and stop believing the nonsense blathered out by people without the credentials to back up their assertions. Good luck to you, too!
Andraste77 3 years ago
obvious troll is obvious
Summoning91 3 years ago
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Ron Wyatt deserves great credit for the discovery and you are just a dumb atheist. Utube is loaded with atheist scum peddling their lies to everyone!! They refuse to acknowledge the true facts of life and scoff at the greatest authority: the Bible!!
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Atheist scum? Peddling lies?
Bit histrionic there, aren't you?
The bible is a pack of awful, violent, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist nonsense, of dubious authorship. Study its history for yourself. Read Bart Ehrman. he's a bible scholar, he'll tell you. In fact, there are some interviews and debates here on YouTube featuring him.
Ron Wyatt is a fraud.
Andraste77 3 years ago
Wow! Even after all of the evidence that has been presented & proven to you, all of the lies & contradictions that have been exposed all throughout the bible, you STILL can't accept the truth about the bible. Its really sad. I really feel sorry for you. But its not your fault. You've been brainwashed since birth. Hypnotized. Maybe one day you'll wake up & face reality.
Two3Productions 3 years ago
Your reply suits the atheist/evolutionist mind very well. The book of truth is the Bible. Read and learn.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
Your problem is that you are not academic. You are not a scholar and live in a mental trap, thereby, in fear of taking risks in life outside of your bubble of simplistic beliefs. Look, you have to grow up one day and maybe you will be shocked into it.
truvelocity 2 years ago
How did the animals come from Australia, and Whole of the American continent ? North America, & South America. !
BelieveNoGod 3 years ago
The world map was different back then before the flood.
filmfans1961 3 years ago
WUAHA HA HA HA HA HA.
Ah, so u mean that Pangea, existed at that time ?
LOL.
He he, the continental drift isn't THAT big :)
Or maybe only the species in the middle east existed at that time ? :)))
This is the most ridiculous posting I've read in a while. :)
BelieveNoGod 3 years ago
It's and illustration. In case you haven't noticed the bible is very symbolic and figurative. You shouldn't take things so literally. That's called naivety.
Genesis Chapter 1 says man and woman were created one the sixth day. Chapter 2 say God had Adam name all the animals before Eve was created. That would have taken much longer than a 24 hour day. The word day is used many times in the bible to refer to an unspecified length of time and it makes logical sense to assume it is figurative here.
tylercantango 3 years ago 2
But in Genesis 1:5, it says that the evening and the morning was the first day.
It's not symbolic, it's literaly a day.
CRASS89 3 years ago
"By sacrificing his only son"
I still don't understand how Jesus was the "son of god" while at the same time being "god".
What was he? A demi-god? And what the hell is the 'holy ghost'? Is that Casper?
Diomedes01 3 years ago
Well, given that God is all powerful, he can be any number of facets of the same being. The Holy Ghost is another facet. St Patrick described God as a 3 leaf clover, 3 leaves but the one plant.
Come on, it's not hard. One's imagination can create anything. I'm agnostic and even I understand it.
Woolfrey 3 years ago
I always wondered just what kind of sacrifice Jesus was if they knew he was coming back? I would gamble everything I had if I knew I was getting it back, it would hardly be a bet huh?
isegoria1 3 years ago 2
the sloth at the end... oh that made me LOL. brilliant humor
McTraining 3 years ago
you are wrong
CooeeEcho 3 years ago
Anybody who doesnt even consider what hes saying as some sort of evidence or that doesnt acknowledge how it makes perfect sense to the fact that noahs ark is ridiculous are close minded.
asargentb 3 years ago
Some people flock from miles around to worship the face of Jesus or mother Theresa that has been found in a currant bun or piece of toast. I myself pulled the lid off a tub of margarine this morning and lo! There did I see the PERFECT form of a religious face. I tried to deny it. I tried to explain to myself that it was an illusion. But no. Even though the face I saw appeared in supermarket own-brand margarine... I can't believe it's not Buddha.
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
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Jesus is on the cross and beckons Peter to come to him. He tries, but is beaten back by Roman centurions. Jesus beckons again, but Peter is again battered by the the guards. Still, Jesus beckons to Peter; "Peter. I.. must.. speak with you.." Peter summons up a rush of defiance and hurls himself through the guards and finishes at the foot of the cross. Jesus looks down on Peter, then into the distance. He looks at Peter for one final time and says... "Peter.. I can see your house from here!"
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
Ge6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
Ge6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
Ge6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
If God can make a universe, he can find a way to accomplish the Noah's Ark thing too, just like he can make lepers whole.
IsntThatAmusing 3 years ago
what is 'Pangae'? When it was exist?
pailek 3 years ago
Does the Quran said it is a world wide flood[all the earth surface covered by water].
Which Chapter and verse?
pailek 3 years ago
Jesus freaks try so hard to fit irrational thought into rational logic:) 2 white people created the entire population and noah got 2 of every animal is absurd! The problem is these people were force fed this garbage since birth so it will always be with them and no matter what EVIDENCE you find....they are taught to instinctively REJECT SCIENCE AND FACTUAL INFORMATION!! Meanwhile you got GAY PRIESTS RAPING AND MOLESTING YOUNG BOYS..LOL!
whole27 3 years ago
Hey, if you don't want to go to heaven, you don't have to. But I can assure you that you'll see me partying up there! Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.
IsntThatAmusing 3 years ago
But how about if we doing many sins without repentance [murdering,false witness,adultery etc.] but still believe in him[Jesus as God]?Could we still be save?
pailek 3 years ago
You are simply deluded. Allow me to explain. All creationists are superstitious by definition. Your belief, you'll be 'partying' in heaven is, by your own definition, no less superstitious then me believing that I have a pair of 'lucky socks' because I have formed a link between wearing them and good fortune. Thus, I always take my 'lucky socks' everywhere. NO, I don't. I'm a rationalist. Wearing 'lucky socks' has no effect. It's just an irrationality that has the appearance of sense.
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
As a lucky sock worshiper, you're still forced to justify the existence of an immense amount of energy in the universe when you take the law of conservation of energy into consideration. That energy had to come from somewhere, at least us creationists understand that an infinitely powerful (and jealous) God put the energy there. And what have your lucky socks ever done for me or anyone else except smell up the room because you refuse to wash them?
IsntThatAmusing 3 years ago
IsntThatAmusing; "As a lucky sock worshiper" (sic)
I'm not a lucky sock wearer. I thought I'd made that clear. I'm a rationalist. I can look at a Niagara Falls, If I so wish, and ask the question: "All that water must be coming from somewhere?" I do not then make the irrational leap toward "godidit". Ever see 'Deal Or No Deal'? Time after time we see people placing faith in numbers significant only to them. They lose, or win. Same difference. It's a lottery. Not divine intervention.
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
TITOWU: "I'm a rationalist." For a rationalist, you're pretty irrational to think the universe happened by accident. A quick overview of quantum physics ought to convince you that SOMEONE is behind the scenes. But, like I often say, to each his own. God is alive, and he would prefer if you worship him. But he's got a pit for everyone who won't.
IsntThatAmusing 3 years ago
Can you smell that..? Is it sheep, ox, cow..? No. It's definitely bullshit. I suppose you are going to spew (erroneously) the laws of thermodynamics? Prick. What I fucking hate is you bell-ends smugly insinuating that you're off to jolly old heaven to drink tea and bang tambourines with jesus; and I'm going to a barbecue. It's a threat. Doesn't make you a nice christian, does it? Tosser.
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
blah blah blah, just cuz you hate God doesn't mean you have to take it out on the rest of us. God exists, like it or not, and Jesus is his son. He's saved us by dying on the cross for us. He rose from the dead. People saw him. He sent the Holy Spirit. Get used to it and get over your bitterness about life the universe and everything. I'm no tosser, I'm just trying to help you avoid eternal torment in hell.
IsntThatAmusing 3 years ago
one day, if you repent, you'll thank me for it.
IsntThatAmusing 3 years ago
One day, If you GET BENT I'll thank YOU for it.
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
"just cuz you hate God doesn't mean you have to take it out on the rest of us"
I don't hate god any more than I hate the tooth fairy, Santa Claus and leprechauns, and for exactly the same reason.
"God exists"
If you have any evidence I'd be glad to look at it.
"I'm no tosser"
From your comments so far there's a VERY big question mark hanging over that.
voiceoftruth2006 3 years ago
God will prove his own existence to you in his own time, as you'll soon see. I only hope you'll survive the encounter and worship him when its all said and done. God is everywhere, you can't avoid him.
IsntThatAmusing 3 years ago
"God will prove his own existence to you in his own time"
He hasn't proved it so far, and it's been 13.5 billion years already. I'm not holding my breath.
voiceoftruth2006 3 years ago
IsntThatAmusing, is it safe to say that you agree that God has done everything in his power to 'save' us? If so, how? I know your answer, so I'll save the response: By sacrificing his only son. Well, why does it have to be bloodshed? Why sacrifice of a human? I don't believe your God has done everything in their power to save us quote unquote infadels. If he or SHE had, trust me, no one would be questioning the existance. I urge you to have an open mind and consult your facts for future topics.
aquatix 3 years ago
"He's saved us by dying on the cross for us."
He didn't save the Jews from Hitler, did he? Or the victims of the Columbine shooting. Or the inmates of the GULAGs. Or the thousands tirtured to death in his name by the inquisition. Or anyone from the WTC on 11/9/2001. Or, indeed, anyone else.
A self-proclaimed messiah died on the cross. Big deal. There were so many "messiahs" around Judea in the 1st century that the Romans were permanantly exhausted from banging in nails.
voiceoftruth2006 3 years ago
I think you nailed THAT ONE. By the flavour.. I would say.. Evangelist. Slow moving, easy to spot and devoured by delusion. Tasty!
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
Jesus! All I wanted was to play with the mouse, then and you come along and sever it's spinal column! Outstanding. You'll get your case of beer for that one...
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
"By the flavour.. I would say.. Evangelist. Slow moving, easy to spot and devoured by delusion."
Dull, though. It's a bit like hefting the mighty club of reason and using it to splat baby seals. Too easy.
voiceoftruth2006 3 years ago
Careful. You are beginning to sound a bit 'old testament' with your 'mighty club'. Funny though, as an atheist, I have never felt the need to rape or murder anyone. I give what I can afford to charities and yet I am condemned to hell, apparently. Why do I need 'god' to possess a moral compass?
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
"You are beginning to sound a bit 'old testament' with your 'mighty club'."
Strange you should say that. When girls see my "mighty club" they usually say, "Oh my GOD!!"
voiceoftruth2006 3 years ago
No they don't. They say; Ach, MEIN GOTT!
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
Are you going to answer any of the questions just posted? Or have you scurried off to AIG?
TuneInTurnonWakeup 3 years ago
"A quick overview of quantum physics ought to convince you that SOMEONE is behind the scenes."
You have two choices: Justify that statement scientifically (after all, quantum physics is a branch of science and it doesn't mention "anyone behind it") or accept the fact that I'm going to call you a deluded moron and laugh at you.
voiceoftruth2006 3 years ago 2
to each his own.
IsntThatAmusing 3 years ago
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The flood was 4,400 BC not 2,500bc.
Before you make snap judgements, you consider all of the evidence....
The Ark was revealed by an earthquake in 1948..
consider video by BreanBeacon entitled, "The
ark discovered"....and the book on the feasibility of getting everything on board...
Ark is right size, in the right place....
and proven to have been re-enforced with metal .. huge anchor stones were
found nearby.....the large animals did not have to be full grown.,in some cases might
use eggs..
gerry37g 3 years ago
Rubbish!
fdaw007 3 years ago
O.o
RainMan52 3 years ago
But the ocean creatures is not onboard.
So the Bible is not right because the Bible says all the animal of the earth.
pailek 3 years ago
My name is Gizbourne blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, i'm a very simple person, i hate Christians, i won't go into how anything could possibly be feasible other than the way i dictate, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah but i know i'm right, because i'm so smart and pretty!!! Let me ask you a really dumb question Gizzy, what happens if the animals were in fact very young and small ...say eggs, puppies and kittens? DoH! Eggs don't have to eat, puppies and kittens drink milk. LMAO PAWNED!!
sweetbilly 3 years ago
Oh and hey what about this problem, what if Pangaea hadn't broke up before the flood? Wow what a epiphany huh!!! Wouldn't make the gathering of animals very tough would it???? Your right, our logic, common sense, and reasoning is something you couldn't possibly fathom. You are too simple for us.
sweetbilly 3 years ago
But make sure that when you answer my questions you don't really think it through, Bigot!
sweetbilly 3 years ago
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you are real asshole that I can say
marpel007 3 years ago