U.S. Overthrow of Democracy in Indonesia & Slaughter of 1 Million

[oldman66live]

google The Coup In Iran. 1953>>Mark Curis This along with the shooting down of an Iranian civilian airliner by the US cruiser Vincennes over the Persian Gulf killing all 290aboard. The US government never apologized.

[oldman66live]

From 1898-1916 the US is resp[onsible for the deaths of 1.4 million Philippinos.

[oldman66live]

google The Indonesia Massacare 1965-1966

[aberserk9]

Excellent video! What about a video on US-CIAs first attempt to overthrow Sukarno? I'm talking about 1957-58. The US arming corrupt, rebellious provincial commanders, and employing foreign mercenaries to supply the rebels, and to bomb and strafe the Indonesian govt. positions. There is now stuff on this part of history on the net. Start here: The United States and the 1958 rebellion in Indonesia+Brichoux+Gerner - Lots of reliable links here as well. - Good luck!

[vivascargill]

we will never know how many died but I suspect the number is larger than 1 million much larger!!

[DrMerkwuerdichliebe]

what happened to indonesia is absolutely absolutely teethgrinding. one of those fascist capitalist holocausts.

thanks for all the efforts. good job.

glad to find a tag when i look for w. f. wertheim. too little of him on YT, shame.

[19GirlBad]

RIP to the people who lost their lives from the bastards of the US, Britain and the dictator Sukarto. They will be rot in hell. Judgement day will come.

[EkajTheSwordsman]

The Indonesian occupation of East Timor over 24 years killed 60 to 80 thousand Timorese, over 18,000 of whom were killed violently. The overall population of East Timor increased significantly over this time, as did life expectancy, infant mortality, and economic growth. The US approved because East Timor was run by a de facto Communist dictatorship.

[EkajTheSwordsman]

"Journalist " Kathy Kadane alleged that the American Embassy supplied a “death list” of 5,000 communists, but her report was discredited long ago: see New York Times, July 12, 1990; AIM Report, September 1990.

[vivascargill]

not so!! and Kathy is not the only one to have "alleged" that Ralph McGehee does as well and points out the times's pieces are OP-ED (as if what the TTimes said mattered anyway)

[EkajTheSwordsman]

Indonesia was not a democracy and the US did not overthrow it. American

officials were so unprepared for the crisis that at first they misidentified the anti-communist leader, General Suharto. The Johnson Administration expressly refused to supply weapons for the mass killing of Indonesian communists. The US gave more aid to Sukarno than any other country.

[vivascargill]

@EkajTheSwordsman oh really what about the "killing lists" drawn up by the CIA and MI 6? did the Holy Ghost supply them?

[vivascargill]

@EkajTheSwordsman bullshit!

[hazesmoke1]

Dear CapitalistHolocaust

I am researching this topic for my history dissertation and would be more than grateful if you could get in touch with me and i could ask you some questions as to where you found the best sources of information.

My current idea is to assess the portrayal of the massacre in the media and compare that with foriegn policy documents. I am mainly focusing on the west (America, Britian and Holland) and briefly comparing it with portrayal in Eastern countries.

[wellbehavestudent]

may I know the title of the book and the author? Anyway, this is just another extension of Cold War. Historian should put this into consideration that besides Vietnam War, US also involved in Indonesia.

[hlimkb]

the cold war was very nasty not only in indonesia,

but in other countries 2.

i dont think i want to be a soldier,

it is like cannibalism

[Grimaldo35]

@hlimkb Indonesian genocide was not part of cold war. PKI had criticized russian revisionism and sided with China rather than USSR

[hlimkb]

@Grimaldo35

it is all water under the bridge now,

listen to some good music at utube n type hlimkb

[jtx1bx]

FEE North of SUMATERA for Independence FREE SULAWESI FREE WEST TIMOR FREE WEST PAPUA FREE MALUKU FREE KALIMANTAN BORNEO FREE ACEH FREE BANGKA FREE BELITUNG and FREE BALI .....!!!! THE MUSLIM INDONESIAN ARE TERRORIST!!! THEY KILLED CHIRISTIANS & WESTERNS BRUTALLY!!! INDONESIA never build WEST PAPUA

[Godgenes]

and then the U.s. government under FORD and Kissinger armed the indonesian hired guns to invade East timor. General suharto then proceeded to carry out pogroms on the tiny island which killed over 250,000 people. ANd this was carried out in successive amerikkkan administrations. The humanitarian" Carter supported Suharto. of course the Zionist reagan supprted him as well. The pentagon funneled weapons to him during his 16 year reign of mass murder in East timor

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Yes, I've located the declassified docs where Ford basically gave Suharto the green light to invade E.Timor. I'll be doing a video of it eventually.

[wellbehavestudent]

@CapitalistHolocaust : and later US embargoed Indonesia for 'invading' East Timor. This world is mad!

[someguyyt]

When a man shoots and kills those that have come to kill and rob him in his home.....that is another capitalist atrocity isn't it.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

How so?

[Grimaldo35]

@someguyyt what link could have between a man killing robbers and a general killing 1 - 3 millions of peaceful peasants? you should have some kind of brain disease-

[Grimaldo35]

@someguyyt How can you compare a man killing a murderer for self deffence with an army torturing and killing systematically millions of innocent civilians?

It was a crime not against communists not against indonesians, it was a crime against humanity. Suharto was worse than Hitler.

[vivascargill]

The chinese communist party also bears responsibility--for giving the PKI terrible advice--Long live the memory of Aidit Sudisman and all the other heroic comrades! This was the worst massacre of the second half of the 20th century! I hope Bundy, Rusk, Macnamara all rot in hell!

[CapitalistHolocaust]

The Chinese were all for arming the PKI.

Aidit turned down their offer for arms & training. He understood that if Communism didnt acquire power by democratic means it would have ended up an authoritarian regime.

Unfortunately, the Capitalists were willing to turn to mass slaughter to stop them acquiring power through peaceful means. The US & Britain truly feared Democratically elected Communism.

So sadly, maybe the Chinese were right, to some extent, about the necessity of violent revolution.

[vivascargill]

Do you have a source--I am ready to be persuaded however my feeling was CCP always wanted the PKI to be an electoral party--perhaps Aidit did as well I will check P.D. Scott but let me know your source OK?--but I could be wrong.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

That the Chinese believed that only revolutionary violence could overthrow the bourgeois state is well know. It's documented in the CCP's "The Proletarian Revolution and Krushchov's Revisionism":

"Violent revolution is a universal law of proletarian revolution"

"The proletariat would, of course, prefer to gain power by peaceful means. But abundant historical evidence indicates that the reactionary classes never give up power voluntarily....

[CapitalistHolocaust]

...and that they are always the first to use violence to repress the revolutionary mass movement and to provoke civil war, thus placing armed struggle on the agenda."

- p367

Aidit wasn't convinced:

The PKI sought a peaceful road to power in Indonesia. This was an aim from which the Aidit leadership never deviated.

- Indonesian Communism Under Sukarno, Rex Mortimer, p393.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

"As long as Aidit had been Chairman of the PKI, the party had rejected the Chinese model of violent -agrarian revolution"

Indonesia 1965 - The coup that backfired (CIA study) - p170

"Probably the main reason why Aidit had decided against a policy of training and arming the PKI....it would have vitiated his whole effort over the past 15 years to create just the opposite image of t h e PKI--as a party that operated entirely within the legal political system of the country...

[CapitalistHolocaust]

...He was obviously concerned not to risk anything that would seriously compromise the PKI's policy of peaceful transition to socialism"

- p175 (CIA Study)

As things got scary:

"Aidit had all along tended to belittle the chance of a military challenge of the PKI. Around 1964, however, he apparently began to take the possibility of a showdown with the army a little more seriously"

-p216

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Only when it looked like the army was going to take on the PKI, did Aidit decide it might be nice to have a milita:

"Aidit had proposed to Sukarno in January 1965 that the peasants and workers be armed...Subandrio acknowledged that during his visit to China in January 1965, Chou En-Lai had offered one hundred thousand light arms"

The Army & Politics in Indonesia, Harold Crouch, p89

Sukarno declined, it may have been too late anyway.

[vivascargill]

I agree with this entirely I read Mortimer---it would be fascinating if we could locate internal documents between the PKI and the CCP

[grummeper]

Sadly true...

[MultiFuhrer]

indonesia must be punish for what they done

[MedievalWerewolf]

This reminds me of a Bill Hicks joke. It involves our army traveling to a foreign country to a random farmers house and dropping a weapon in front of him. We're like, "pick up the gun." Then when he does, we all shoot him full of holes.

"You all saw it. He had a gun."

[lumbanraja2]

that would be very great about vietnam,my wife is vietnamese what i heard from her what her father needed to witnes in the vietnam war its terrible i do support people who place video's like this for once it need to be taken seriously,the world just ignores it,like how the CIA overthrew democracy in Iran and replaced it with an relentless tyran

[lumbanraja2]

well they should be punished like they punished the germans and japanese they must go to international tribunal for this holocaust of my country man,thank you so much for placing this vdo,my grandfather was avictim of this day as he was brutaly killed by the americans and how my father saw how they even killed little children and woman,again thank you so much

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Sorry to hear about your Grandfather & thanks for your kind comments. BTW, I will be doing a video on Vietnam soon.

[TheLeftLibertarian]

This is just excellent research.  Its pretty hard to argue when you have government documents to back up your claim as you have done. Checkmate. This is the first video of yours that Ive seen. Cant wait to see the rest. Thanks.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Thanks for that, I did spent an enormous amount of time researching this, as I do with most of my vids.

The actual documents shown in the video are mostly from the National Security archive & the CIA's website, so that you know they are genuine. I've put links to many of them in the video info section so that you can go & read them for yourself.

[bull9stud]

Endless wars,Abusive powers,Decline living standards,Lack proper healthcare,Loosing jobs- no sense of security..etc.American dream got in the corporate-WHITEHOUSEWHORES's jaws & the military helped.Whats in it for a U.S. citizen to have trillions of debt?Or to project power across the globe?yet the military enjoys tearing down communities,civilizations bringing genocide- choas.You will be Despized..you are not defeanding anyone exept your paychecks..enjoy resistance..From Iraq..El Toro.

[aberserk9]

Excellent video ! Keep them coming!

[Caty25cat]

I think THE END OF CAPITALISM AND CORPOCRACY is coming.

[shaggoth9]

what are you working on at the moment CH?

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Hi,

right this moment I'm knocking up a video for the overthrow of democracy in Greece in '67.

It's another one that's taken about 2 months to research (like this Indonesia video), but hopefully only about 24 hours to actually make the video.

With a little bit of luck, I'll have it uploaded tomorrow afternoon.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Capitalist Holocaust does.

[clearsky24]

Your videos are great, and your take on 9/11 is refreshing.

It's nice to hear there are others out there who believe our interventionist policy is a disaster with out running straight to the 9/11 is inside job rant that so often makes the rest of us seem like we are in a group of nut jobs. Which is the real conspiracy in my view. Keep everyone believing Ron Paul fans are nuts, and the true facts will be overlooked.

Check out my vid on HR 1207, and keep up the good work.

[9407113678]

"I think as well, because many of them are patriots & nationalists, they tend to think that 3,000 Americans being killed by their own government is far worse than 10+ million Vietnamese, Cambodians, Indonesians, E.Timorese, Guatemalans, etc. being killed by their own government."

Whether they know it or not. Yes. Thumbs up.

[EvanC0912]

suharto is a shame. his education is just primary school. that's why his leadership style is very poor

hate corruptor such us suharto

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Hi Evanny,

are you from Indonesia?

[EvanC0912]

yes, i am..

[CapitalistHolocaust]

We all know about the owner of WTC7 saying to pull the building down. He said it because they knew that the structural damage to the building was so bad it couldn't be saved.

The problem is, the building collapsed very soon after. Giving no time for explosive devices to be planted (particularly in a heavily structurally damaged building with internal fires raging).

[CapitalistHolocaust]

It's most likely that the falling of the building after the call to pull it was semi-coincidental. Not fully coincidental, because they knew that the building was now structurally unsound & there was a possibility it could collapse.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

WTC7 was hit by debris when the north tower collapsed, causing massive structural damage. Fires burned internally for hours.

Reports were going round that the building might collapse, it was so badly damaged.

Yes, the BBC reported that it had collapsed when it hadn't. It's very probable that they just misheard what had been reported to them, what with all the commotion & mixed messages that must having been going about.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

The BIG problem I have with the 9/11 truth movement is, they leave out huge chunks of what happened to make their theory fit, such as WTC7 getting hit by debris.

The type of arguments they present are often duplicitous, such as: 'steel doesn't melt at the same temperature as jet fuel burns', making the dubious assumption that steel had to literally melt, rather than weaken for the structure to collapse.

The arguments are often served up to them by spin masters such as Alex Jones.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

They also love to remind you that no other large skyscraper type building has collapsed from fires, neglecting to mention the unique tube design of the buildings & that not enough buildings have been hit by huge airliners to judge.

And of course, as we all know, because of the way the mind works, people will literally delete information & facts that dont fit in with strongly held beliefs.

This type of psychology is what allows people to still believe in gods, in spite of evidence like fossils.

[PloughTheSky]

Frankly, given the geopolitical situation of the world at that moment, I find the idea that 9/11 was an inside job quite dubious (What about the London bombings, Madrid bombings, Bali bombings...? Inside jobs?)

But there's been a real conspiracy about 9/11: hiding the terrorists' motivations and revendications!!!

[PloughTheSky]

With an incredible campaign of mass disinformation and propaganda, the Western govts, totally backed by the media, have managed to almost completely suppress the basic question that one should ask when confronted with a terrorist attack or an armed uprising: why?

You've got to look for the transcripts of Al Qaeda's videos and the arrested terrorists' testimonies by yourself if you actually want to know about these 'details'.

[PloughTheSky]

What Al Qaeda demanded from the US is:

- Stopping unconditional support of Israel against the Palestinians and Lebanese

- Evacuating the US troops based in the Muslim holy lands in Arabia since the 1st Iraq war

- Stopping the support to the corrupt monarchs and dictators that rule most of the Arab and Muslim worlds

[PloughTheSky]

Killing civilians is of course destpicable, but 9/11 starts making a bit more sense when you consider the motivations. Sadly, most people just believe all the fantastic crap we get spoonfed with all the time: 'they hate our freedom', 'it was an attack against civilization' bla bla bla.

[PloughTheSky]

Hardly anybody seems to have wondered why these Muslims have decided to take on the most powerful country in the world, knowing that there would be a massive ripost, instead of attacking, say, Brazil, Japan or Cambodia. It's funny that these free, secular, non-Muslim countries don't have any terrorism problem, eh?

[PloughTheSky]

Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that these countries have never invaded, occupied or starved any Muslim population? Or perhaps because they don't have a record of installing and supporting tyrants abroad whenever it suits their political interests of the day?

The idea that violent anti-American ressentment is somewhat caused by hatred of American culture is frankly ridiculous but it's just forbidden to question that story.

[PloughTheSky]

- Lifting the embargo against Iraq (including the drastic restrictions on food, medicine and medical stuff that lasted from 1991 to 2003 and left about 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis dead, the vast majority of them being just children)

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Yes, the 9/11 "truthers" ignore the very real crimes & atrocities that the U.S. & Britain have been carrying out in the middle east.

I think as well, because many of them are patriots & nationalists, they tend to think that 3,000 Americans being killed by their own government is far worse than 10+ million Vietnamese, Cambodians, Indonesians, E.Timorese, Guatemalans, etc. being killed by their own government.

More specifically, the Alex Jones crowd have their own particular nationalist agenda.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

But, I have to say, I understand why many people believe that 9/11 was an inside job.

They know that their government & the mainstream media is lying to them. They know a little bit about CIA subversion & stuff.

But many don't seem able to discern bullsh*t from lies. They really don't have the critical analysis skills to recognize what evidence is circumstantial & what is conclusive.

[Slim1945]

As much as i enjoy your channel, please stop with the insulting generalizations, as an engineer i've put a lot of time into researching 9/11, i'm not interested in promoting theories about what happened that day but it's clear that it needs a proper investigation.

You may also be surprised at how knoledgable many of us "truthers" are on the many atrocities purpetrated by our goverments, we DON'T all put less value on millions of lives because they are foreign.

Our common goal is truth not ego.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Yes, i am probably being a little unfair & I am generalizing. I should of course qualify that many of the truthers I have spoken to share those characteristics & many don't, of course.

Whilst I've had some really interesting conversations with some really open minded truthers on youtube & the internet, I've just gotten sick of being attacked & told I am brainwashed by the majority of those I've talked to.

Particularly since they don't have any peer reviewed sources for evidence.

[Slim1945]

WTC7 sustained relatively minor structural damage from the tower collapse, especially compared to other buildings much closer to the twin towers yet were never said to have been likely to collapse and only a few of the 47 floors had fires.

There are plenty of examples of similar steel framed buildings totally engulfed in flame, sometimes for days, none have ever collapsed.

I'm an engineer with years experience in the constuction industry, i've studied the buildings construction & the NIST report

[CapitalistHolocaust]

That contradicts the reports on the ground, moments before WTC7's collapse. Firemen were warning that the damage was so bad, WTC7 could possibly fall. There are even videos of firemen saying this prior to collapse on youtube.

A misunderstanding of these reports is possibly what caused the BBC to accidentally announce that it had collapsed, before it had.

It's also why the owner of WTC7, Larry Silverstein gave the famous order to 'pull' the buildings, but was beaten to the punch by gravity.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

"The biggest decision we had to make on the first day was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged 7 World Trade Center, a 47-story building heavily involved in fire.

A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt.

I issued the orders to pull back the firefighters and define the collapse zone."

. - Daniel Nigro FDNY Chief.

[Slim1945]

There is endless amounts of conflicting reports, that's why it needs a proper investigation.

I've collected hours of video & pages & pages of testimonies from eye witnesses, fire fighters, first responders and reporters, i don't claim to know what happened that day but it's clear to me that a proper investigation has not been done,

Rodriguez WTC janitor claims to have heard an explosion in the basement prior to the planes impact, he was never asked to testify, so his claim has never been tested.

[Slim1945]

There is so much to this debate that i can't possibly do it justice in the 500 character limit.

The point is this debate should be carried out by a truly independent team of investigators armed with ALL the available evidence and testimonies, the NIST reports were never set up or allowed to do that.

Surely you agree to this much?

[CapitalistHolocaust]

In the early Rodriguez interviews, he doesn't seem to mention hearing explosions before the impact, he just describes hearing "a big rumble" as the plane impacts.

Even his lawsuit against Bush doesn't seem to make any mention of him hearing explosions before the impact, even though part of his lawsuit specifically accuses the bush administration (or at least the CIA) of planting explosives in the building for controlled demolition.

[Slim1945]

All the more reason to investigate his claims & all the other testimonies & evidence that conflict, i have no firm opinion on his claims as i don't have the ability or resources that a team of qualified investigators have, however why exclude him from the investigation?

You haven't really answered my question, are you against a proper investigation of 9/11?

[CapitalistHolocaust]

No, I'm not against a 'proper' investigation of 9/11, but that's besides the point. Rodriquez has no evidence whatsoever to back up the claims that the buildings were brought down with explosives. Nor does anyone else.

People hearing explosions (after the plane has crashed) is not evidence of bombs having been planted. It's evidence of a plane having hit the building, sending fireballs down lift shafts, causing electrical generators to explode & floors to collapse.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Rodriguez clearly didn't hear explosions before the plane crashed, or he would have mentioned it in his complaint.

There's no reason why he should be excluded from the investigation, unless of course he has changed his story to fit in with his new belief systems about 9/11 being part of the 'NWO' conspiracy to take over the world.

Fantastical beliefs which are evidenced in his lawsuit/complaint.

[Slim1945]

"No, I'm not against a 'proper' investigation of 9/11, but that's besides the point"

No that is exactly the point, all i have been calling for is a proper investigation, if it proves the official story to be true then it can put this debate to rest, i first got interested in 9/11 truth because i thought it was a crazy idear and i wanted to debunk it.

I'm not intersested in winning arguments to satisfy my own ego, i just want an investigation to get to the truth whatever it is.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

A proper investigation of 9/11 wouldn't show the official story to be true at all, but nor would it point to 9/11 being an inside job.

Since 9/11 truthers are intent on showing that 9/11 was an inside job, and wanting a full independent investigation of 9/11 is only really a means to that end, I feel that whether I want an investigation or not is far less relevant than whether there is actually any evidence to suggest that 9/11 was an inside job.

[Slim1945]

There you go with the generalizations again, what "the truth movement" want is the TRUTH, "inside job" is an OPINION, what is much more important is an investigation to find the truth.

"No, I'm not against a 'proper' investigation of 9/11, but that's besides the point"

"A proper investigation of 9/11 wouldn't show the official story to be true at all, but nor would it point to 9/11 being an inside job."

The point is truth, not our opinions, only thing that matters is the investigation.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

I think it's a generalization, even most 9/11 truthers would agree with.

The problem you have is, you provided evidence that suggests that bombs were planted in the twin towers & WTC7, such as the Rodriquez claims & lack of damage to WTC7.

I refuted this easily, by pointing out that Rodriguez didn't even make those claims in his lawsuit/complaint, & that the damage assessment prior to the WTC7 collapse suggested it would collapse.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

So rather than debate these specific points about the evidence of 9/11 in greater depth you are pointing out tiny almost irrelevant points from our own discourse about the evidence.

Like whether I agree that there should be an independent investigation or not or whether I've generalized over the 'truth' movements aims.

Who cares if I've slightly generalized on that point? Rodriguez still didn't hear explosions prior to the plane impact as you & other 'truthers' have claimed.

[Slim1945]

You still don't get it, i'm NOT interested in trying to win a pointless debate with you over opinions that we will probably never agree on.

I've made it VERY clear that what i am interested in is that people support an investigation.

Our common ground is that we don't (for what ever reason) believe the official story to be true,

Rodriguez claimed to hear the explosion not me, i was thousands of miles away, were you in earshot? i only said "his claims" should have been part of the investigation.

[SlaveStorm]

Just one of the(72 Interventions by the joint US military industrial complex & the secret service community since world war 2

Fakery TV keeps the dream alive All Lies All The Time.

The number one business on the planet is the arms business Second is the illegal drug trade which is controlled by the army & those heavy arms

It's not a conspiracy, it's a way of life or death depending on where you live. Imagine the IQ to take a job where the only tool is a gun you will kill women & children with

[Shadowfie]

how 'bout NORAD?

he most sophisticated air defense in the world

yet they can't detect a couple of 747s strayed from it's flight path.

well, it's a really sad fact that the US is stirring trouble in most country in the world. They're even worse than Nazis. Because they're destroying the world quietly with their secret agenda.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Hi Shadowfie,

they possibly did detect them, but may have reasoned that shooting them down would mean that the U.S. Govt had killed their own citizens on the cold & calculated assumption that more lives would have been taken if they hadn't.

Some people would accept this, but many would forever view the U.S. Govt & Military as willing to murder their own people, based on calculated possibilities.

The U.S. Govt would have been the bad guy & not the victim.

Imagine it.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

So they may have let the planes through deliberately. Particularly if they were uncertain of the targets.

How many people would have believed the government, if they'd said:

"Well we shot down & killed 600 of our own citizens because we thought that the planes were possibly going to hit the twin towers & kill 1000's".

Would you believe them? Even if they provided evidence, how would you feel?

This could explain how the other planes may have been brought down with missiles & then covered up.

[Shadowfie]

hmm. that makes sense.

[Star3Wars3]

I would. And the government let or caused 9/11. It was a controlled demolition. It would make since to shoot down a plane in restricted airspace (especially when they could kill 1000s) anyway.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

It would make sense to shoot down a military plane in your own airspace, no questions asked.

Whist it would make sense to many to shoot down a plane FULL OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY'S CITIZENS, it certainly wouldn't to many others. In fact, it would come across as an abhorrent atrocity. Neither would it provide a pretext for war.

Also, the evidence that WTC was a controlled demolition is exceptionally flimsy. Nothing that has been submitted for peer review & lots of infowars & prisonplanet disinfo.

[charcoalc5]

The US did get pretty crazy with their whole containment of communism policy.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

The problem is, most of it actually wasn't 'containment of communism'.

America & Britain overthrew anyone who wouldn't have Western business interests forced upon them or allow the West to plunder their resources, including many Anti-Communist regimes.

Look at what America & Britain & Western countries were doing prior to Communism: exactly the same thing. Exactly why Communism sprang up in the first place, to fight Imperialism.

America overthrew 18+ govts in S.America alone since WWII...

[CapitalistHolocaust]

...only the most indoctrinated Capitalist would suggest that nearly every single S.American state was turning Communist.

Plus, it is very understandable why some 3rd world countries that have been kept in poverty & had their resources plundered would turn to Communism, regardless of the misgivings they may have had about totalitarian Communism in the USSR & China.

Yes, Indonesia could come under the 'containment' blanket, but it would be containment of democracy as much as Communism...

[CapitalistHolocaust]

....since the PKI were the largest party in Indonesia with 3 million members & support of around 27 million of the population. Even Pauker suggested that Indonesia would be the first state to democratically elect Communism.

That was what the U.S. & Britain feared, a constitutional Communist party that would inspire the whole world to put a stop to Western exploitation.

[Shadowfie]

well, here in Indonesia we are approaching 2009 election.

anyway, I heard there are lots of ongoing CIA and mossad operations in our country. our government and authority also know this but only few of the details are exposed to the public.

there are also speculations about CIA involvement in Bali bombing.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Well you never know (about CIA involvement with terrorists). I haven't seen any solid evidence.

Many people in the U.S. believe that 9/11 was an 'inside job' as I'm sure you are aware.

But it would be ridiculous to assume that nobody ever decided to fight back against U.S. foreign policy.

I'm sure much of the Islamic terrorism we see is a reactionary response to Western attempts to control the middle east. 'Blowback' of one sort or another.

[Shadowfie]

well, in Bali bombing there's not much evidence of CIA involvement.

but there's so much anomaly in 9/11 event.

and the motive is clear, to justify invasion in middle east countries.

do you assume that 9/11 is not an inside job?

anyway I agree with you about the terrorism is a response against US foreign policy.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

9/11 was definitely a pretext for invasion, whether it was an inside job or not.

The Taliban asked for evidence of Bin Laden's guilt & the U.S. thought that the Taliban should be bombed for wanting it.

That's probably because the funding had come from Saudi (as was later found) & the planners of the attacks may have been the pilots themselves (due to the autonomous way these terror cells work, they don't necessarily need direct orders).

Then of course, the US tried to link Saddam to 9/11.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Without sounding like I'm setting up straw men, the anomalies in the 9/11 events are often very easily explained.

For example, people say they heard bombs. Well yes, electrical transmitters & floors collapsing would sound like bombs to me, particularly in a terror attack.

The BBC announced that WTC7 collapsed before it had. Well yes, it was thought that it was about to collapse because of the ferocity of the fires & they probably got a report about it which they misread.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

As far as I can see, the only way that 9/11 could have been an inside job is if Bin Laden or Al Quaeda had been given secret orders to carry out such an attack by the CIA.

Of course, there is very little evidence to suggest this.

I think some French newspaper has stated that they got a leak from the French intelligence agencies saying that a known CIA agent had visited Bin Laden whilst he was in hopital in Dubai (or somewhere). That's hardly conclusive, but not impossible.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Thanks for commenting. Great to hear from Indonesians.

How are things in Indonesia at the moment?

[somethingtrulyclever]

its been deleted?

[CapitalistHolocaust]

No, are you getting video not available?

It's running okay here.

[Shadowfie]

beside this

usa also destroyed our country's economy

with the IMF

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Welcome. Good to have someone from Indonesia on here.

Do you still live in there, Shadowfie?

[Shadowfie]

I still live in Indonesia right now.

In Indonesia we called the massacre G30SPKI

(Gerakan 30 September Partai Komunis Indonesia).

Here in Indonesia, the people's mindset about the massacre is totally different than the facts you post in the video. We think that the 6 TNI generals are the victim of the coup perpetrated by PKI communist party.

I never knew that CIA take part in this event until I saw your video.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Well it is possible that the PKI leadership were involved in the counter coup, but most of the evidence is based on torture induced confessions (which the CIA report from '68 concedes to a certain extent) & falsified confessions (admitted by the U.S. ambassador).

Some of the military involved in the G30S were friends of Suharto & some were trained in the U.S.

Sjam was a 'double agent', for the PKI according to his testimony, but he could have been a double agent for the military.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Considering he did everything he could to make the 'coup' fail & he was given special treatment in prison, suggests this is possible. Aidit was of course killed on capture.

But let's assume that the PKI Leadership was involved in the deaths of the Generals.

The CIA & MI6 (British Intelligence) had been spreading rumors (possibly even falsifying the Gilchrist document) to make the PKI think that the Army was about to overthrow Sukarno & slaughter them.

Trying to lure them into taking action.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Ralph Mcgehee, ex CIA officer says:

"The Agency wrote a secret study of what it did in Indonesia. [One sentence censored.] The CIA was extremely proud of its [one word censored] and recommended it as a model for future operations [one half sentence censored]."

The CIA review board censored his comments before allowing it's publication back in 1981.

As Mcgehee points out, the CIA can't censor lies about the CIA & as such had erroneously admitted involvement even back then.

[hyso47]

The U.S. and Britain have no interest in promoting democracy around the world, in a matter of fact, they have done the biggest obstacle to democracy. As if they are trying to oppress the whole world. God will remove them as he has done to even stronger nations before them.

[BluntOfMexicanBrick]

The EU and the US have a strong interest in promting puppet democracies around the world.

The New World Order has control over most all national leaders, and are working on the few nations that are against the NWO agenda.

World government has been around for 70 years+ and will become official in the near future.

The Antichrist is the Illuminati. Revelations says that the Antichrist will have control over all nations in the last days. We are in the last days.

God wants you to fight the NWO!

[Signzit]

nice work I know it wasn't easy. thanks! Shared & rated!

[kikila007]

You have know idea how much I appreciate Your hard work.

Thanks!

[xxXCALIBURxx]

Sukarno wasn't exactly your dream democratic president either, he had a few violent overthrow attempts aimed at him before Suharto was even known. The people nearly instigated a revolution in Indonesia before Sukarno grew scared and broke them up and arrested some of them, and also implemented a full-scale fundemental power of what he called his "Guided democracy" which is basically just tyranny under the name of "democracy with minor deviations towards totalitarianism".

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Suharto put up a pretense of being 'supportive' of Sukarno after the 'coup'. He had no other choice since Sukarno was well loved by the people.

The U.S., Britain & Suharto knew that they would have great difficulty overthrowing Sukarno immediately, because he was so massively popular in the country. Instead they instigated a 'creeping coup', where Suharto consolidated power slowly but surely. Discrediting Sukarno, one step at a time.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Of course Sukarno traded with the Russians. He believed in FREE TRADE, trading with whomever he wished. Just as the Americans traded with the Nazis, before they chose which side to fight on in WWII.

Sukarno had fought off Dutch imperialism, he wasn't about to be forced to solely trade with America & Britain.

Remember, America's fight against Communism had nothing to do with Stalin or Mao's despotism or Communist atrocities.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Capitalist England killed 17 million in India, Capitalist Belgium killed 8 million in the Congo, Europe killed 18 million in the Atlantic slave trade.

America & Britain fought anyone who stood opposed to the principals of rule by privileged elites & exploitation of poor people & Imperial plunder of other nations, which Communists clearly were.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Don't forget that Guided Democracy benefited the U.S. because it stopped the Communists coming to power in the elections. The pro-U.S. military were pretty much in favour of it.

Indonesia was in crisis. The U.S. had been subverting democracy in Indonesia long before '57. Thousands of Indonesian Military officers had been trained in the U.S. including later members of G30S.

Plus, the U.S. Civic Action policy was used to get the Indonesian military to subvert it's own population.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

The martial law that was implemented (which was proposed by pro-U.S. General Nasution)

came during the period of CIA subversion & then the Permesta Rebellions, which US & Britain supported. A U.S. pilot was even shot down during the Western financed 'uprisings'.

Also remember that many of the attempts on Sukarno's life were instigated by Britain & America.

The U.S. Senate's Church committee hearings found "some evidence of CIA involvement in plans to assassinate President Sukarno".

[CapitalistHolocaust]

The Senate Committee also found that "Arms were supplied to dissident groups in Indonesia" by the U.S.

[xxXCALIBURxx]

Anyway, if I can remember correctly, Suharto and his coup was actually supportive of Sukarno at first, but after their coup was near failure they successfully blamed the PKI for their murder. The U.S. saw this as an opportunity to "fight communism" as Sukarno and the Soviet Union did have trade relations, they didn't much install Suharto, but they basically gave him the support and weapons...

[xxXCALIBURxx]

You should start posting these videos as responses to the NWO conspiracy theory videos. You know, the ones with thousands of comments on what Glenn Beck said that is absolutely true.

Those people wake up very easily, some of them are just kids who want to be radical but can find no other cause besides the 9/11 truth movement. Show them the truth, and maybe they'll understand that even if 9/11 were an inside job, it would be nothing compared to what has happened to the "unimportant people".

[rspawn]

There's a 2 hour compilation of this kind of stuff.

google: "What i've learned about US foreign policy"

Long story short: the overthrowing of democratically elected governments and installing and supporting dictators is the rule rather than the exception in US foreign policy (though Europe's hands are not exactly clean either).

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Yeh, there's some good videos explaining U.S. foreign policy out there.

But I found that there isn't much providing absolutely irrefutable evidence of the claims, at least not to any great extent.

That's why I started this channel. To not only showcase the declassified docs, but to provide links to those docs in the video info. Some of which are very hard to find.

If you can find somewhere that goes into this amount of detail on youtube, let me know, it'll save me 5 to 7 hours a day.

[SkullStrife]

Excellent video!!!!!!!

keep going!

[semiliteratedgod]

yeah, the standard CIA procedure, nice vid...

IMO, you didn't mention the most important thing though

Suharto's massacre in East Timor, which had been going on for decades with complete western support and silence of the media, even under Clinton, AFTER the Soviet Union had collapsed!! Now that's a real fucking crime against humanity, absolutely unjustifiable.

There are interesting pictures of medieval kind of monstrosities from like 1992..? And it was completely Ok, go figure...

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Yes, I do mean to do a separate video on E.Timor & the slaughter there, eventually.

The problem I had with this vid is that I did massive amounts of research & had so much stuff to put in.

Mainly, I wanted to refute the arguments that people put forth to justify the slaughter of up to 1 million people in Indonesia: That it was a civil war, or that the Communists committed the atrocities, or that they had attempted to seize power violently, etc.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

This vid only represents about 5% of what I wanted to put in.

I may do a 2nd vid, questioning just how involved the PKI were in the 'coup'.

Many scholars believe that the CIA lulled the PKI into taking the preventative action with a disinfo campaign that the 'council of generals' were about to seize power & slaughter the PKI to create a pretext for the actual slaughter.

There is plenty of evidence to suggest this, but mainly the torture induced confessions of PKI members.

[ResearchX]

Is anyone surprised. Saddam Hussein was installed by the U.S. in Iraq until the U.S. decided to expand it's westernization of the Middle East. They have installed puppets in South Korea, India, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Panama, Japan, etc..etc. Iran, Russia, China, and Pakistan is next. Then they will own the entire pie.

[llstevej]

Listen Renad, if you care about other people, then help us to make changes instead of cursing us to a slow death, ok? I know there are many bad things about my countries foreign policy which is why I voted for Ron Paul. Your hateful rhetoric only causes strife and more problems.

[RenadTreeInElgana]

well you deserve greeting cos Ron paul is the best man . but sorry i cant lie , yes i hope i see u.s peices . Did you know we hate to beget babies you know why cuz of the deformaties due to using white phosphrous in the war all the time. you as Americans see me as an expermintal animal

[RenadTreeInElgana]

in other word no innocents in U.S , And ofcourse u.s covernment will not push originall americans to the hell i mean iraq or afgnestan , the government selects and pushs the decent . And those soliders after they back to their home they find themselves jobless , have psychological problems

[RenadTreeInElgana]

well every day i discover that u.s is dirty country and Americans deserve to suffer .they suffer now cuz of the economy but thats not enough .i like to see them suffer and starve to death

[blamblaw]

Fuck you for that "Americans need to starve to death" shit. Most of us Americans are against our government and other governments committing such atrocities. But we are a prisoner in our own country because our gov has been taken over by corporations and zionist scumbags as well as other outside entities. And it's not just America, almost every country in the world is run by the same type of people. So if you still want to see us starve, well, it is what it is. I hope the same for you too.

[RenadTreeInElgana]

Then stop to talk about the democracy in U.S .

[llstevej]

blamblaw didnt say anything about democracy...

[RenadTreeInElgana]

yes iam generlizing . Americans always talk about democracy and freedom

read my profil .Americans make many people suffer and i wish i see them suffer too fair is fair

[llstevej]

Some Americans are upset over the foreign policy crimes. Many protested against the war in Iraq. Do you want them to starve to death too? Why not just hold those who are guilty accountable rather than pronouncing a death wish on us all? You are ignorant when you say such things.

[RenadTreeInElgana]

Is that all you have to say ignorant ,hateful bla bla , Americans are killers murders thieves cutthroaghts

[blamblaw]

What's fair is you wishing for the best of all mankind as I am pretty sure most people, who are actually good hearted individuals, wish the same for you. What is unfair is that you would wish suffering and death on anybody just for the sake of you being a bigot. That makes you no different then the ruling class minorities who sanction these holocausts on the people of the world. They too, would like to see every one suffer and starve to death.

[RenadTreeInElgana]

Do you want from me  to lie .yes i want to see U.S crushed like soviet union. enough is fucking enough . U.S responsble for all the wars in mideast since 1948 till now

[blamblaw]

No I don't want you to lie, I'm happy you're showing your true colors. Hate runs deep in you. And as far as the war situation, Israel is responsible for most of the wars and although America isn't innocent by any means, we aren't responsible for ALL the wars. I understand you are angry, but damn, get a grip on the situation. You don't have to be such an asshole about it.

[llstevej]

The point is Renad, that many Americans are decent people who want to live in a peaceful world and you want them to starve to death. The foreign policy problems are caused largely by the CIA, the military-industrial complex and government corruption and deception. Apparently you do not care about decent and compassionate Americans and you would like to see them suffer even though they are innocent. Perhaps your country has sufferred but I want you to know that there are many decent Americans

[RenadTreeInElgana]

Well , most or all Americans soliders are decent okey scotish,irish, black Americans and thats funny i discovered by chance that there are many of them are originally arab from palestine and sudan , and those who kill and murder iraqi ,afgani,pakistani ,.... people

[RenadTreeInElgana]

I would like to explain to you how  U.S government is dirty and devil . Y our country willnot leave any country lives alone always enters its big nose to destroy it and absorb its economy . The only solution is . crushing U.S

[blamblaw]

Okay then, while we're at it, why don't we talk about the "democracy" in your country too, if yall have such a thing.

[llstevej]

You are generalizing and saying hateful things.

[YougeneDebs]

Well done. Thanks. 5*****

[shaggoth9]

Wonderful work my friend, wonderful. The world needs people like you. Looking forward to your next video!

[5324pos]

this is exactly why i am an atheist...what god would allow this without some sort of divine intervention???

[jabrinka99]

This is one of several mass murders along with Pol Pot in Cambodia, the Sandinistas in Honduras, the Indians in Chiapos Mexico, and more recently Hutus and Tutsis in Daifur... I'm not sure that anything but a healthy system of law and accountability will be any deterrent.. Obviously the disclosure isn't enough or they wouldn't have occurred.

[ethogenic]

thanks!