I think this is one of the best performed chum kiu I have ever seen, I know its different but it is clear precise simple but not easy, just the way a form should be, absoulutly fantasic.
@NullifyThreat lool oh yh i remember you ..your that white pussio that used to get bullied by muslims in school ,awh hehe dont worry about its all you can do ,chat shit on youtube ,its kind of sad so im gonna give you a chance 2 prove yourself ok ,im going to inbox u my number so me n u can rendevouz n u can show me hwmuch u know about wing chun =] PUSSIO
This is similar to the more advanced Wing Chun Systems of the Red Boat era. Not the chopped up version served out today. It's just like your form but better. Chopped off technics placed in your Biu Tze. I've seen nothing but more advanced footwork. Forward stand as well as retreating stance side stance, half steps,T stands,Kicks, Gate concept and 50 50 or nuetral footwork. How can 70/30 or 60/40 weight distribution be called nuetral. Peace
@Daddyo94521 : The stances in Chum Kiu form are predominately 50/50. However, there are instances with more weight on the front leg. The leung Bik/Yip Man system also has high kicks and high elbows, with a high guard. Cheers.
@sifugarry Sorry Garry, My comments were meant for the People that believe William and David Chueng made up this footwork and all the other hand technics. I am of Traditional Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun. My Sifu never learned from William or David Chueng. Our forms are quite similar. All of them. Ours is mainland China based with the shoalin temples Yat Chum Dai Si (22nd grandmaster) being the root of Wing Chun. Then the red boat opera troupe with Tan Sau Ng and Hung Gun Biu as our lineage
To everyone who made remarks abou this form... I do agree with you. However, you must understand that there are a lot of different variations of the Wing Chun forms. Reason being is that Wing Chun is extremely political and there a lot of people who want to take fame using Yip Man's name and try to change up the forms to prove that their lineage is the best. FYI, I'm not a student under these guys, but I've watched enough Wing Chun clips on youtube to understand the diversity.
I have seen this performed countless time by Ip Man and various Sifus. It is unlike any interpretation I have ever seen but simply put it is Beautiful! The beginning part is almost as though she is moving backwards, I had to download this :) Can you tell me the inspiration, origins, or sources of the final form we see here? Thank you for posting!!! Nothing like seeing a form started by a woman being performed by a woman...
@exactdigital This form is influenced by Willaim Cheung and David Cheung. The breathing patterns were developed and incorporated by Sifu Garry. Cheers.
@exactdigital, dude there is one video of Ip Man doing Chum kiu and it looked nothing like this. That being said, The leg work of this form is solid and it is interesting how the arms, especially the elbows, leave the center line for moments. Not what I was taught, but you can tell she knows her stuff.
this is not the chum kiu form this is the biu tze , and by the way it looks very good very exact , the only thing i miss is a little bit more fluid moves , i mean wing tsun is no karate we don t need that power , i prefer to do the forms relaxed and without power , , fluently ( iam sorry for my english , again i cannot exactly explain what i mean damn ) but very nice demo
The reason I say this is because the 3 principals of Wing Chun as put forth by most Sifi's (Gary Lam, Terry Hayden, Sifu Wong, William Cheung, etc) is "Simple, Direct and Efficient" There are no "rounded" movements in true Wing Chun.
that's the point, most of people while doing that not aware of how can they use or for what and this means that the movements are just dance; without being aware of how they work and without doing them strong. wing chun is most power required martial art unlike lots of trainer or practicioner says.
What is all the hand twisting in the air stuff? I am curious only and not being critical. I do not understand the purpose for those movements. Thank you!!! Awesome looking form, very intense
Interesting variation seems to have a lot of exaggerated movement, wasting a lot of energy. I won’t say that I think it is rubbish as it might work for you!! However I haven't seen anyone before with such eccentric movement. Arms moving well outside of the gates passed your own body leaving a lot of exposure would be interesting to see how this would fair against a competent Wing Chun practitioner. You must rely a lot on speed to cover the gap??? Please do feel free to comment!? regards Daz
well done, thanks for posting this. I cannot believe there are so many negative votes. This is caused by autistic interpretations of Wing Chun. (Some people react like the Rain Man when they see a different method).
Hi, interesting variation, I have a question? About one third of the form, I see when the lady is taping her biceps when she is doing the alternated Tan Sao, what is the application of this in your variation?
@sifugarry I see, but could you help me out please? I can't picture how the arm break would work. Would you please explain a little bit more for my understanding? Perhaps an example will help.
@alphazygma: It is a concept, so there can be several ways to perform this technique. From the form, the lead arm will control the elbow area and the rear arm, which slaps the inside of your elbow (while doing the form) would control his wrist area. Then, you can snap his wrist and elbow simultaneously.
@sifugarry lol very good explanation but i doubt that someone who has never done it will understand what to do , lol no prob this was no critic , i apreciate your videos i only had to smile a little bit when ii was reading your explanation
@sifugarry by the way isn t it biu tze what she is performing , it looks ike that or do you have other names for the forms in your association ( i am from the former ewto now avci wing tsun but still ewto member only that i have no money to pay my new sifu kernspecht when my real sifu salih went out , so i am in both, by the way salih does not care about money he looks for talents and skills , he is the best teacher i have met until up today )
Looks close to what William chueng teaches...And everyone going on and on about what it should and shouldn't look like..Heres a metaphor i stand by when looking at martial arts or any discipline.."No two ant hills are identical"...If it works for the individual its fine for them.
it's funny, i was taught to be small and precise in movements as much as possible, and this variation of the form, or at least the way it's portrayed, has fairly big movements. it's interesting the different interpertations of the form some peole get and then teach others
That bong will drive the in coming straight into ya own face amongst other things. This is one of the strangest 2nd forms I have ever seen. Having said that, this sexy girl has the BEST STRUCTURE OF MOVES I HAVE EVER SEEN.
If this is Chum Kiu, why is there no shifting? I'm not trying to be disrespectful or trying to start an argument. But every other lineage of Wing Chun uses the Chum Kiu form to help develop shifting among other things, some on the heels and some on the balls of the feet. This form has neither. Just stepping.
In jee shin wing chun we step toe first. In some of our movements, especially with biu gee and wooden dummy, we use K1 shifting, but we do not step heal first. Cheers.
@sifugarry sorry, did u say that this is Jee Shin's lineage? but I can see that ithis CK form 90% looks like the form of GM William Cheung's Traditional WC, which's been claimed to be privately and uniquely passed down by late GGM Ip Man. So.....wat!!?? I'm extremely confused! @___@
@gameofdeath4288 Shaolin Jee Shin Wing Chun is my system. I have been teaching professionally 24/7, with my wife, since 1995. We have 2 schools in Melbourne. My lineage stems from william cheung, david cheung and fung keun. I have incporporated qigong and hard qigong into my system with my own expression and life experiences. Cheers.
The original version without the 300 yrs of refinement,all basic elements are present from yip man to Chan wah shun,I can only hope to perfect my footwork to the same as this woman.
I think it is refreshing to see a woman do some kungfu, especially WChun...the guy who criticised her should do so by posting a video in which he tries to do it like she is doing it. Someone who is a littly jumpy in a routine might just aswell become very grounded when something to hit in the arrogant face appears.
@nbz1973 A master said to his student "Here is the sacred book of sacred teachings passed down from master to he who will succeed the teachings of mind and body." "Master I have learned everything from you what use is there for a book." "It is just how we do things, just take it." As soon as the student took the book he threw it into the fire." "What are you doing?" shouted the master. "What are you thinking?!" shouted the student.
This is the most interesting version of the chum kiu, that isn't ip man's, that I've ever seen. My favorite is still ip man's, but this seems like a very effective chum kiu.
It just seems like far too extraneous "footwork" involved in this version of the form. Also, I don't get the lifting bong sau idea. It doesn't seem practical and nor does it have any clear application. I'm not sure if the low arm swinging was supposed to be a dai bong, but I would argue the same problems about that part as well. I'm not even sure I saw any actual principles being applied whether it be Yip Man lineage or otherwise.
although most people are quite skeptical. I have personnally seen an even longer 5 section chum kiu with your 3 very similiar to our Hung fa yi wing chun. The true Wing Chun shows footwork and biu gee technics in all three forms. From observation Yip Man had simplified for the masses and made inferior to central lie attack by createing centerlie only forms and defence. Quite easy by eliminateing true footwork.
Great job, also with the return on the comments (too many think everything started and ended with Yip Man, not disrespecting that great man). Your style of the second form looks alot like William Cheung (traditional wing chun), just a little more complex with your stepping. Which is good to see since I used to study his style of wing chun. Again, great job on the form, don't know about the 'kia' stylye sounds (lol), but it's great to see differnet styles of wing chun (ving tsun).
We do things differently but I have to say your execution is much better than average. The only thing I could fault you on is those thumbs hanging out.
that's interesting, but is that jeep sau and rising bong sau effective? the rest looks interesting, i like the downward fingers after the double bridge in the beginning
In Jee Shin Wing Chun, Bon Sao's concept is to take care of any attack that comes over your lead arm. So, Bon Sao covers the lower gate to the upper gate.
Not only is this very well done, it reminds me of the chum kiu form that Grand Master William Cheung taught me (well, everyone) at a seminar many years ago.
this is a very interesting style of chum kiu...it looks like a combination of biu tze, chum kiu, and some other form of southern crane. excellent kung fu, but i prefer ip man lineage. what is the name if this lineage?
It looks typically "Bill Cheung". He invented his own WC style. He claimed to be the last 'closed door' student of Yip Man and that he was taught the 'Real Thing'? It was a fiction! WC is like a "Product" now, similar to the way TaiKwon Do is packaged and sold!!!
I didn't have to be present, Tsui Sheung Tin was and he DID live in Ip Man's house, said, "Cheung Cheuk Hing - William Cheung" never lived with Ip Man and trained infreguently and was very young. When I asked Wong Sheung Leung about Bill Cheung, his reply in 1985 to me was, "Ip Man was not into young boys". There's your answer.
Very nice! People - if you aren't prepared to understanded differences between Wing Chun schools, such as Yip Man>, Wan Kam, Yuen Kay San etc. then just hold yourself from commenting. But I have a question - I am surprised the low bong sao (?) comes from way off the hip - almost behind the back with hardly any bend in the arm - can you explain the thinking behind this? With respect & regards.
In the Jee hin wing chun system, we demonstrate 3 Bon Saos' in Chum Kiu form, Upper, middle and lower gate.
The low bon sao covers the lower gate and it starts from the outer gate (left or right) and finds contact along the path, from the outer gate to the center line.
Basically, it is just a starting point for the lower gate Bon Sao.
If practised leung ting style for 6 years and i can see some similaritys in the way the muscles are used in this form. Now my current Wan Kam Leung style teaches me how to be relaxed and precise on angles and structure. His forms creates a natural and simple feeling to the movements. I dont want to go back to the leung ting style, but im always curious in how other styles interpret there forms. So if you host an open seminar, i would like to be your guest. Kind kungfu regards from holland
I don't understand the motivation for your recomendation "have and open mind", but peace, anyways. Practicing arts is positive whatever your interpretation is I guess.
i agree w/ u , Sifu. Stupid guys always shout stupidly at the things different from wat they have been taught. They dont have enough brain-cells to absorb new things. Im studying TWC from GM Cheung but i can do the forms in Wong Shun Leung's style :D
Veramente proprio Yip Man era amico degli altri gran maestri di foshan che hanno come lui insegnato versioni estremamente differenti. Non esiste un wing chun giusto e uno sbagliato, solo diverse interpretazioni. Ci vuole rispetto.
non voleva essere un'offesa ma se vedi bene la ck fatta dal GM vedrai delle differenze ENORMI il rispetto ci vuole anche per le tradizioni e questa non è la chum kiu del GM Yip Man...poi si, hai ragione non esiste un wing chun giusto ne uno sbagliato visto che sono tutti diversi...ciaoooooooooooooooo
ahh i love this piece of music, remember seeing it on a tai chi video but think it got deleted.. glad to have found it again, great form btw, you see to have the right balance of tecnique/creativity.
Different from the Chum Kui I learned, but okay. Once again the application of the movements is most important. Need to keep the bong sau up higher. Also Chum Kui should be executed in sharp crisp movements. Seems also to be missing some of the shifting and leg movements that chum kui is trying to teach.
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uncleedoo 1 month ago
I think this is one of the best performed chum kiu I have ever seen, I know its different but it is clear precise simple but not easy, just the way a form should be, absoulutly fantasic.
and I am very critical.
uncleedoo 1 month ago
i think she is not enough loosely by doing her form,sorry.
spildaleidodomo 4 months ago
Exelent Work!
superpayaseria 6 months ago
@NullifyThreat lool oh yh i remember you ..your that white pussio that used to get bullied by muslims in school ,awh hehe dont worry about its all you can do ,chat shit on youtube ,its kind of sad so im gonna give you a chance 2 prove yourself ok ,im going to inbox u my number so me n u can rendevouz n u can show me hwmuch u know about wing chun =] PUSSIO
snappadandappa 6 months ago
dis form lukz really nyc bt it wud neva compare 2 ip mans
snappadandappa 6 months ago
I'm very open mined with ving tsun family differences, but this version of chum kiu is bizarre
theonlymuthaX 7 months ago
look in your messages I sent you a video
Daddyo94521 8 months ago
This is similar to the more advanced Wing Chun Systems of the Red Boat era. Not the chopped up version served out today. It's just like your form but better. Chopped off technics placed in your Biu Tze. I've seen nothing but more advanced footwork. Forward stand as well as retreating stance side stance, half steps,T stands,Kicks, Gate concept and 50 50 or nuetral footwork. How can 70/30 or 60/40 weight distribution be called nuetral. Peace
Daddyo94521 8 months ago
@Daddyo94521 : The stances in Chum Kiu form are predominately 50/50. However, there are instances with more weight on the front leg. The leung Bik/Yip Man system also has high kicks and high elbows, with a high guard. Cheers.
sifugarry 8 months ago
@sifugarry Sorry Garry, My comments were meant for the People that believe William and David Chueng made up this footwork and all the other hand technics. I am of Traditional Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun. My Sifu never learned from William or David Chueng. Our forms are quite similar. All of them. Ours is mainland China based with the shoalin temples Yat Chum Dai Si (22nd grandmaster) being the root of Wing Chun. Then the red boat opera troupe with Tan Sau Ng and Hung Gun Biu as our lineage
Daddyo94521 8 months ago
@sifugarry You've seen too much Ip Man: The legend is born
ownage4000 1 month ago
To everyone who made remarks abou this form... I do agree with you. However, you must understand that there are a lot of different variations of the Wing Chun forms. Reason being is that Wing Chun is extremely political and there a lot of people who want to take fame using Yip Man's name and try to change up the forms to prove that their lineage is the best. FYI, I'm not a student under these guys, but I've watched enough Wing Chun clips on youtube to understand the diversity.
ShadowCure 9 months ago
I have seen this performed countless time by Ip Man and various Sifus. It is unlike any interpretation I have ever seen but simply put it is Beautiful! The beginning part is almost as though she is moving backwards, I had to download this :) Can you tell me the inspiration, origins, or sources of the final form we see here? Thank you for posting!!! Nothing like seeing a form started by a woman being performed by a woman...
exactdigital 10 months ago
@exactdigital This form is influenced by Willaim Cheung and David Cheung. The breathing patterns were developed and incorporated by Sifu Garry. Cheers.
sifugarry 10 months ago
@exactdigital, dude there is one video of Ip Man doing Chum kiu and it looked nothing like this. That being said, The leg work of this form is solid and it is interesting how the arms, especially the elbows, leave the center line for moments. Not what I was taught, but you can tell she knows her stuff.
jdwalker13351 6 months ago
this is not the chum kiu form this is the biu tze , and by the way it looks very good very exact , the only thing i miss is a little bit more fluid moves , i mean wing tsun is no karate we don t need that power , i prefer to do the forms relaxed and without power , , fluently ( iam sorry for my english , again i cannot exactly explain what i mean damn ) but very nice demo
GonG108 10 months ago
I agree, very strange Chum Kiu variation.
The reason I say this is because the 3 principals of Wing Chun as put forth by most Sifi's (Gary Lam, Terry Hayden, Sifu Wong, William Cheung, etc) is "Simple, Direct and Efficient" There are no "rounded" movements in true Wing Chun.
gambleyourhealth 10 months ago
fun form to play on ice
dotcombatgames 11 months ago
Wow. Sifu Lina has very swift movements. There's a certain sense of grace to them.
phantomstrider8 11 months ago
this has got to be the weirdest version of chum kiu i've ever seen
no offense
Nhia89 1 year ago 7
@Nhia89 I agree maybe it's the male version of wing chun or she is a quack!
moonfreak421 5 months ago
@moonfreak421 shes a quack
Nhia89 5 months ago
that's the point, most of people while doing that not aware of how can they use or for what and this means that the movements are just dance; without being aware of how they work and without doing them strong. wing chun is most power required martial art unlike lots of trainer or practicioner says.
sghfqwe 1 year ago
What is all the hand twisting in the air stuff? I am curious only and not being critical. I do not understand the purpose for those movements. Thank you!!! Awesome looking form, very intense
1badsteed 1 year ago
Interesting variation seems to have a lot of exaggerated movement, wasting a lot of energy. I won’t say that I think it is rubbish as it might work for you!! However I haven't seen anyone before with such eccentric movement. Arms moving well outside of the gates passed your own body leaving a lot of exposure would be interesting to see how this would fair against a competent Wing Chun practitioner. You must rely a lot on speed to cover the gap??? Please do feel free to comment!? regards Daz
darrenhendry06 1 year ago
well done, thanks for posting this. I cannot believe there are so many negative votes. This is caused by autistic interpretations of Wing Chun. (Some people react like the Rain Man when they see a different method).
dreamcastII 1 year ago
Hi, interesting variation, I have a question? About one third of the form, I see when the lady is taping her biceps when she is doing the alternated Tan Sao, what is the application of this in your variation?
Thanks
alphazygma 1 year ago
@alphazygma Those moves illustrate arm breaks. Cheers.
sifugarry 1 year ago
@sifugarry I see, but could you help me out please? I can't picture how the arm break would work. Would you please explain a little bit more for my understanding? Perhaps an example will help.
alphazygma 1 year ago
@alphazygma: It is a concept, so there can be several ways to perform this technique. From the form, the lead arm will control the elbow area and the rear arm, which slaps the inside of your elbow (while doing the form) would control his wrist area. Then, you can snap his wrist and elbow simultaneously.
sifugarry 1 year ago
@sifugarry I understand, thanks Sifu
alphazygma 1 year ago
@sifugarry lol very good explanation but i doubt that someone who has never done it will understand what to do , lol no prob this was no critic , i apreciate your videos i only had to smile a little bit when ii was reading your explanation
GonG108 10 months ago
@sifugarry by the way isn t it biu tze what she is performing , it looks ike that or do you have other names for the forms in your association ( i am from the former ewto now avci wing tsun but still ewto member only that i have no money to pay my new sifu kernspecht when my real sifu salih went out , so i am in both, by the way salih does not care about money he looks for talents and skills , he is the best teacher i have met until up today )
GonG108 10 months ago
Are you the only one that knows what you're talking about. Man thank you for this comment.
superpayaseria 6 months ago
Its a interesting Chum Kiu Application
MajinGalgod 1 year ago
where are you learning from?
i guess not in Hong Kong, right?
klsuperman 1 year ago
What an awesome place to practice!!!
bl00zjamma 1 year ago
wow, very non-calm movement.. more like Lao-gar id say! only difference theres no horse stance
ultimAvalon 1 year ago
Looks close to what William chueng teaches...And everyone going on and on about what it should and shouldn't look like..Heres a metaphor i stand by when looking at martial arts or any discipline.."No two ant hills are identical"...If it works for the individual its fine for them.
ninjaviperace 1 year ago
This is almost exactly the same as the William Cheung chum kiu form.
YborBorn 1 year ago
it's funny, i was taught to be small and precise in movements as much as possible, and this variation of the form, or at least the way it's portrayed, has fairly big movements. it's interesting the different interpertations of the form some peole get and then teach others
08maplesyrup 1 year ago
Just watched it again and I love your moves. YUM!
If WC can be thought of as sexy, you are the hottest WC girl out here.
Im in love. Cum train with me girl, I want to see more of what you have :o)
phatdriver 1 year ago
That bong will drive the in coming straight into ya own face amongst other things. This is one of the strangest 2nd forms I have ever seen. Having said that, this sexy girl has the BEST STRUCTURE OF MOVES I HAVE EVER SEEN.
Absolutely unbelievable, remarkable.
I wish my arms where half as good as your!
Different but MAX respect!
You are FURKING GOOD girl...
Much love...
phatdriver 1 year ago
Well done!
I move more slowly.
jeetkunedo57 1 year ago
If this is Chum Kiu, why is there no shifting? I'm not trying to be disrespectful or trying to start an argument. But every other lineage of Wing Chun uses the Chum Kiu form to help develop shifting among other things, some on the heels and some on the balls of the feet. This form has neither. Just stepping.
hulkout666 1 year ago
In jee shin wing chun we step toe first. In some of our movements, especially with biu gee and wooden dummy, we use K1 shifting, but we do not step heal first. Cheers.
sifugarry 1 year ago
@sifugarry sorry, did u say that this is Jee Shin's lineage? but I can see that ithis CK form 90% looks like the form of GM William Cheung's Traditional WC, which's been claimed to be privately and uniquely passed down by late GGM Ip Man. So.....wat!!?? I'm extremely confused! @___@
gameofdeath4288 1 year ago
@gameofdeath4288 Shaolin Jee Shin Wing Chun is my system. I have been teaching professionally 24/7, with my wife, since 1995. We have 2 schools in Melbourne. My lineage stems from william cheung, david cheung and fung keun. I have incporporated qigong and hard qigong into my system with my own expression and life experiences. Cheers.
sifugarry 1 year ago
@hulkout666 I agree , but would also say that it's not incorrect just a different
version. Definitely not the best version or performance, I wonder what branch or
lineage it comes from.
JarredD798HungMan1 1 year ago
The original version without the 300 yrs of refinement,all basic elements are present from yip man to Chan wah shun,I can only hope to perfect my footwork to the same as this woman.
SuperWolf36 1 year ago
Interesting, double low kicks and fu jow pai, never seen this version of chum kiu before.
samuski36 1 year ago
I think it is refreshing to see a woman do some kungfu, especially WChun...the guy who criticised her should do so by posting a video in which he tries to do it like she is doing it. Someone who is a littly jumpy in a routine might just aswell become very grounded when something to hit in the arrogant face appears.
zenflowrappings 1 year ago
@nbz1973 A master said to his student "Here is the sacred book of sacred teachings passed down from master to he who will succeed the teachings of mind and body." "Master I have learned everything from you what use is there for a book." "It is just how we do things, just take it." As soon as the student took the book he threw it into the fire." "What are you doing?" shouted the master. "What are you thinking?!" shouted the student.
sloppymantis 1 year ago
wow impressive and very well coordinated fantasic balance
uncleedoo 1 year ago
This is the most interesting version of the chum kiu, that isn't ip man's, that I've ever seen. My favorite is still ip man's, but this seems like a very effective chum kiu.
creechkarl 1 year ago
It just seems like far too extraneous "footwork" involved in this version of the form. Also, I don't get the lifting bong sau idea. It doesn't seem practical and nor does it have any clear application. I'm not sure if the low arm swinging was supposed to be a dai bong, but I would argue the same problems about that part as well. I'm not even sure I saw any actual principles being applied whether it be Yip Man lineage or otherwise.
Masterphan 2 years ago
Different, but good.....
wingchunexpert 2 years ago
although most people are quite skeptical. I have personnally seen an even longer 5 section chum kiu with your 3 very similiar to our Hung fa yi wing chun. The true Wing Chun shows footwork and biu gee technics in all three forms. From observation Yip Man had simplified for the masses and made inferior to central lie attack by createing centerlie only forms and defence. Quite easy by eliminateing true footwork.
daddyo 2 years ago
long live and great health to sifu linda
frostwow 2 years ago
Great job, also with the return on the comments (too many think everything started and ended with Yip Man, not disrespecting that great man). Your style of the second form looks alot like William Cheung (traditional wing chun), just a little more complex with your stepping. Which is good to see since I used to study his style of wing chun. Again, great job on the form, don't know about the 'kia' stylye sounds (lol), but it's great to see differnet styles of wing chun (ving tsun).
taocircle 2 years ago
This is a yip man expression. By the way, there are 7 different wing chun families in sth china. Yip Man had 3 lineages, which he learnt from.
sifugarry 2 years ago
We do things differently but I have to say your execution is much better than average. The only thing I could fault you on is those thumbs hanging out.
rpierini 2 years ago
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what's this shit
mannyballester 2 years ago
that's interesting, but is that jeep sau and rising bong sau effective? the rest looks interesting, i like the downward fingers after the double bridge in the beginning
ProjUltraZ 2 years ago
Techniques performed in forms are conceptual. How the techniques are used in application can vary considerably.
cheers.
sifugarry 2 years ago
In Jee Shin Wing Chun, Bon Sao's concept is to take care of any attack that comes over your lead arm. So, Bon Sao covers the lower gate to the upper gate.
sifugarry 2 years ago
This isn't my style of Chum Kiu but I really dig the solid movements and the strong footwork! Well done :)
DarranHight 2 years ago
Not only is this very well done, it reminds me of the chum kiu form that Grand Master William Cheung taught me (well, everyone) at a seminar many years ago.
Good work.
theScytheofGod 2 years ago
hey this style of wing chun looks cool =D, I myself am under the ip man/ip ching lineage. Good luck to you for the future =)
robo199617 2 years ago
this is a very interesting style of chum kiu...it looks like a combination of biu tze, chum kiu, and some other form of southern crane. excellent kung fu, but i prefer ip man lineage. what is the name if this lineage?
inkedanddaggered 2 years ago
this lineage is from leung bik - yip man. it also some some kulo influence. the breathing is my own expression.
sifugarry 2 years ago
i should have been more specific! i am an Ip Man-Ip Ching-Russ Cichon student in Albany New York. Respect due though.
inkedanddaggered 2 years ago
I have seen some very interesting forms around southern China, all varying, depending on their lineage. We are all one big wing chun family.
cheers.
sifugarry 2 years ago
GM William !
gameofdeath4288 2 years ago
it looks pretty good! straight and strong movements! respect!
patrickjott 2 years ago
It looks typically "Bill Cheung". He invented his own WC style. He claimed to be the last 'closed door' student of Yip Man and that he was taught the 'Real Thing'? It was a fiction! WC is like a "Product" now, similar to the way TaiKwon Do is packaged and sold!!!
nordique59 2 years ago
So you were present when William Cheung lived in Yip Man's house for 3/12 years and you witnessed what Yip Man taught. Hmmmm
sifupr 2 years ago
I didn't have to be present, Tsui Sheung Tin was and he DID live in Ip Man's house, said, "Cheung Cheuk Hing - William Cheung" never lived with Ip Man and trained infreguently and was very young. When I asked Wong Sheung Leung about Bill Cheung, his reply in 1985 to me was, "Ip Man was not into young boys". There's your answer.
nordique59 2 years ago
@sifupr lol sifu pr u were not present either so what gives u the right to say that?
uncleedoo 1 year ago
oh yeah!
egglot12 2 years ago
mah...
contethor 2 years ago
Very nice! People - if you aren't prepared to understanded differences between Wing Chun schools, such as Yip Man>, Wan Kam, Yuen Kay San etc. then just hold yourself from commenting. But I have a question - I am surprised the low bong sao (?) comes from way off the hip - almost behind the back with hardly any bend in the arm - can you explain the thinking behind this? With respect & regards.
Skellyman99 2 years ago
In the Jee hin wing chun system, we demonstrate 3 Bon Saos' in Chum Kiu form, Upper, middle and lower gate.
The low bon sao covers the lower gate and it starts from the outer gate (left or right) and finds contact along the path, from the outer gate to the center line.
Basically, it is just a starting point for the lower gate Bon Sao.
Cheers.
sifugarry 2 years ago
If practised leung ting style for 6 years and i can see some similaritys in the way the muscles are used in this form. Now my current Wan Kam Leung style teaches me how to be relaxed and precise on angles and structure. His forms creates a natural and simple feeling to the movements. I dont want to go back to the leung ting style, but im always curious in how other styles interpret there forms. So if you host an open seminar, i would like to be your guest. Kind kungfu regards from holland
maekelon8 2 years ago
This actually looked very nice to me. Movements were crips & sharp. Question: Was her Lop Sao Grab off the centreline? If yes why?
oemcleod 2 years ago
The lap sao depicted in our chum kiu form covers the central line. It is also used in a cross leg situation.
Thanks for the compliment.
sifugarry 2 years ago
I don't understand this. couldn't even say it's right or wrong :S
imjackswastedlife 3 years ago
what is right and what is wrong in wing chun.
form can be different but that doesnt make it right or wrong
have an open mind
sifugarry 3 years ago
I don't understand the motivation for your recomendation "have and open mind", but peace, anyways. Practicing arts is positive whatever your interpretation is I guess.
imjackswastedlife 3 years ago
i agree w/ u , Sifu. Stupid guys always shout stupidly at the things different from wat they have been taught. They dont have enough brain-cells to absorb new things. Im studying TWC from GM Cheung but i can do the forms in Wong Shun Leung's style :D
gameofdeath4288 2 years ago
This looks a lot like William Cheungs Traditional Wing Chun.
WarriorWingChun 3 years ago
nice
IgnaChi1978 3 years ago
different...but anyway.. at the end of the day its the combat skills that count..forms or taolu's dont matter that much..they re just tools
dpapaioannow 3 years ago
Practitioner with closed minds will always criticise something they dont understand or havent seen before.
Wing Chun Kung Fu stems from 7 different families in China
sifugarry 3 years ago
Se ne vedono proprio di tutti i colori...
kokojo74 3 years ago
ma che ha preso il raffreddore questa?
assosinistro 3 years ago
questa è la tua personalissima chum kiu...
dimostra poca tecnica ma molta fantasia...tanta...tantissima
gimalu73 3 years ago
very different from what i have learned.
looks like a few bju tze moves have been integrated (thrusting fingers is in most branches teh domain of the third form)
however, it looks interesting and she has obviously spent a long time training it.
respect.
zoolkhan 3 years ago
se l'è sognata stanotte sta forma questa....se la potesse vedere il G.M. Yip Man si rivolterebbe nella tomba....che tristezza:(
fab346 3 years ago
Veramente proprio Yip Man era amico degli altri gran maestri di foshan che hanno come lui insegnato versioni estremamente differenti. Non esiste un wing chun giusto e uno sbagliato, solo diverse interpretazioni. Ci vuole rispetto.
darkmaster79 2 years ago
non voleva essere un'offesa ma se vedi bene la ck fatta dal GM vedrai delle differenze ENORMI il rispetto ci vuole anche per le tradizioni e questa non è la chum kiu del GM Yip Man...poi si, hai ragione non esiste un wing chun giusto ne uno sbagliato visto che sono tutti diversi...ciaoooooooooooooooo
fab346 2 years ago
Some of it looked a bit strange, definantly not the Leung system :)
wonder what lineage it is ?
but it did clear up a thing or two about a few punches :)
so thx :)
Thedreamshaperabc 3 years ago
What lineage is this looks very different.
gilt527 3 years ago
TWC from william cheung and david cheung. The breathing is my input.
sifugarry 3 years ago
does david cheung still teach? i havent met him b4 but ive heard he's great and very skilled.
cjawc4 3 years ago
ahh i love this piece of music, remember seeing it on a tai chi video but think it got deleted.. glad to have found it again, great form btw, you see to have the right balance of tecnique/creativity.
gringolazlo 3 years ago
You've train hard...
sadnack 3 years ago
This version of chum kiu is a demo for our students, so it is performed a little slower than normal.
The 3 sections of Chum Kiu perform the Bon Sao techniques at different gates; high, middle and lower gates.
Cheers.
sifugarry 4 years ago
Different from the Chum Kui I learned, but okay. Once again the application of the movements is most important. Need to keep the bong sau up higher. Also Chum Kui should be executed in sharp crisp movements. Seems also to be missing some of the shifting and leg movements that chum kui is trying to teach.
chisauboy 4 years ago