Tenors do not have the same bridges as baritones. If you think you're a baritone and you have a natural bridge as a tenor... you're probably not a baritone. If you're a baritone and you're pushing that passaggio upward, you have a high larynx position. Simple as that.
If you believe you are a baritone and you can negotiate properly to a full high C you're not a baritone. What makes you a baritone? Take Josh Groban. He's a wonderful baritone. He can sing basically the tessitura of a tenor... but does he have access to high C? NO. The reason why it is known as the Tenor High C is because mainly only male tenors can achieve these pitches.
@hefra344 You're probably not a baritone then. I have a friend who is a true tenor and yet he can hit low E. THE REASON WHY TRUE TENORS ARE TRUE TENORS AND BARI'S ARE BARI'S ARE SIMPLY THEIR VOCAL CORDS. There is nothing I can say that can fix that. There is no baritone out there who would be able to sing Andrea Bocelli, or ANY TRUE TENOR out there. They are just two different voices.
@hefra344 Then send me a link of any baritone that can roar and freely achieve a tenor high C. I want to hear a tenor High C from a TRUE BARITONE. If you can show me that then I will forget this idea of "tenor" High C. If Baritones could hit High C as a tenor as you say, then the predominant recordings of people singing it would not be tenors but tenors and baritones.
@piinoieboiie i didnt say a baritone could hit a High C as well as a tenor or that many baritones can do it. but any baritone can hit a high C all u need to do is learn head voice
@piinoieboiie i can but im a really high baritone cause i can belt up to High D or D# my range is D2-G#6 but Chris Cornell from soundgarden is a baritone that can belt a High C. btw i might be a low tenor but i doubt it
@hefra344 My friend can smash low E flat yet he can go up to high D and maybe even higher. He's still naturally a tenor because of his sound. True Baritones with the TRUE BARITONE COLOR JUST DONT HAVE ACCESS TO HIGH C. I bet if I listened to your voice you would not carry the Baritone color. If your voice can carry you up to High D or D# then how are you a baritone? More importantly where is your tessitura?where can you sing comfortably?There is just so much stuff that separate bari's to tenors.
@piinoieboiie I am a tenor but i am a very low tenor trust me i can sing comfortably from E2-G#5 without warmups. my tessitura is around A2-A5 but baritones can bring themselves up to high C it takes proper breath support and a little bit of grit to get the full voice sound but they can do it because david lee roth does and so does axl rose
@hefra344 You just said you were a bari now you say you're a tenor. Just because you say you're a high bari or a low tenor, they are both different voices. See the only reason I believe you think you're a bari is cause you can hit low notes. . It doesn't matter if you are a very low tenor. There's none of that crap. My friend can hit Low E yet sore incredibly high like Michael bolton and he's not even a singer. He's simply a tenor.
@piinoieboiie no my timbre could definitely be that of a baritone im not sure whether i am a baritone or a low tenor all i know is that i can hit a low E and F and go up to a high D or even belt an E when ive warmed up completely
@hefra344 How is he a baritone. I don't hear the murkyness or that thickness in his voice. If you listen you can hear a certain thinness in his voice regardless of whether or not he sings raspy and dark.
@piinoieboiie chris cornell is definitely a baritone there are some baritones with the ability to belt really high. david lee roth could belt up to a C# or D, billy gibbons could belt up to about a C#5 so could elvis. axl rose was also a baritone that could belt up to about a D or D# chris cornell tries to deliver all his performances in the tenor range but if u listen to his cover of whole lotta love in comparison with adam lamberts u can hear the clear difference between a baritone and tenor
@hefra344 the height of Adam Lamberts voice is incomparable to any other tenor. If you were to take his voice and compare it with another tenor, the other tenor would be deemed as a baritone if Adams voice was the standard for a tenor voice so don't compare his voice to other singers. Adams lamberts high voice is not only his range... but the extreme lightness and brightness. How could you compare the extreme lightness in his voice to a voice that is clearly lower than his...
@piinoieboiie i understand what your saying but robert plant is the person that sang the song first and he is a tenor. Listen to adam lambert or even chris keller sing and u can hear that theyre voices carry better in the upper register than chris cornells. Cornell is a baritone that can belt up to a C listen to rusty cage
@piinoieboiie and in opera its not that a baritone can only connect to a A or Bb but they dont put notes above that for baritones generally if a baritone can develop a strong mix then they will be able to belt higher
@hefra344 In opera and in the classical world, the upper register that is above the pasaggio in let's say a tenor...is Roughly E to F#. This and the notes above are the upper register. It is where there are two resonances...Chest and the head voice are together. This is the same relation towards what everyone here considers a MIX...the only difference is the covering and the color that they apply. If you listen to andrea bocelli, would you not say his upper register is not a mix?
@hefra344 Is his freedom and upper register not the same as what everyone here says is the mix? Is his upper register coordination not the same as how brett, Jesse, and Chris Keller go into their "mix"? They are the same. It is undeniable. If some of the greatest opera singers like the late Pavarotti and Andrea, Juan Diego Florez would sing up in the upper register... with some of the GREATEST TECHNIQUES THEY WORLD HAS TO OFFER?then would it not be the same as a mix? The teachings are the same.
@hefra344 So all I'm really trying to say is that both these terms are the same.. Just of what they apply in the sound of the upper register. So... If some of the greatest natural baritones can only comfortably and correctly sing to A or Bb then what would be the difference of a baritone who learns from this method of getting into the higher upper register or what Brett and everyone else terms as the mix being able to go higher? Then every single baritone would learn from this technique.
@piinoieboiie ur not telling me anything that i dont already know i was saying that there arer some lyric baritones that can sing up to a C just like there are some tenors that can belt up to an E or in rare cases an F. Im a baritone i know i was slightly confused before but i am 100% sure know. I can belt up to a D
@piinoieboiie i dont lust for the high C trust me i want to be able to hit the soprano high C the way i can hit tenor high C and it took more work to belt up to a D than a C for me
@hefra344 If you were to take a lyrical baritone, and a tenor, both professional and sing professionally.. (In the Classical World that is)... and vocalize them (no Doubt that these two have incredible technique)... The baritone will connect to High A and maybe Baritone Bb as I like to call it... but since the tenor is a higher voice it will properly transition towards the High B Natural and Tenor High C. Just the way it works.
@hefra344 I just told you. If you can go up and vocalize properly only bari's WILL BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO ONLY THE A AND Bb, BUT TENORS WILL BE ABLE TO CROSS THAT AND GO UP HIGHER. If you can connect to a High D then no doubt you're a tenor. I would like to see a bari go up that high.
He's belting F sharp above middle C. Is that a normal baritone top note? I wonder about the veracity of these courses. I'm a low baritone, and although I wish I was a tenor; sometimes you've gotta accept your limitations. I suspect the singing success course exploit this. I'm never gonna hit tenor C, innit.
Depends what you mean by top note.. I know baritones that get around G (above) High C and beyond. Thats fully connected (not fallseto), But you do have to thin out (more head resonance) as you go higher.. It's impossible to sing G above high C like Pavarotti if your a baritone or a tenor!
The limits of a certain voice is 99 times out of 100 self imposed. All voices are great if developed and dull if not developed. Its not what you've got but how you use it..
umm...well the voice types dont tell u how high ur voice will go but where ur comfortable range is so yes a baritone can go higher than a tenor but not be in their comfortable range. ive seen baritones belt a c6 in mixed voice that was chest dominant.
And 'a baritone' can't 'go higher' than a 'tenor'. Everyone has their own range at any given time. No use generalizing. I can sing higher than untrained altos, so what? That doesn't do crap for generalizations. People: Learn before you talk.
Tenors and Baritones have the same bridges. E-F# 1st bridge. C5 second bridge. What are you calling 'tenor c'? I'm a baritone too. I can hit C5 no problem. Do the exercises. Forget about being a tenor.
XD sounds like he's trying to get her to do sex noises xD
lylacgirl123 1 month ago
This is pretty cool, but i really want to learn to improve my volume.
TeamSeymour 4 months ago
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BigR1221 1 year ago
Tenors do not have the same bridges as baritones. If you think you're a baritone and you have a natural bridge as a tenor... you're probably not a baritone. If you're a baritone and you're pushing that passaggio upward, you have a high larynx position. Simple as that.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
If you believe you are a baritone and you can negotiate properly to a full high C you're not a baritone. What makes you a baritone? Take Josh Groban. He's a wonderful baritone. He can sing basically the tessitura of a tenor... but does he have access to high C? NO. The reason why it is known as the Tenor High C is because mainly only male tenors can achieve these pitches.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie im a bariton and i can hit high C with no effort and i can sing my low G with power
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 You're probably not a baritone then. I have a friend who is a true tenor and yet he can hit low E. THE REASON WHY TRUE TENORS ARE TRUE TENORS AND BARI'S ARE BARI'S ARE SIMPLY THEIR VOCAL CORDS. There is nothing I can say that can fix that. There is no baritone out there who would be able to sing Andrea Bocelli, or ANY TRUE TENOR out there. They are just two different voices.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie i can guarantee you im a baritone. With proper breath support a baritone can hit High C
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 Then send me a link of any baritone that can roar and freely achieve a tenor high C. I want to hear a tenor High C from a TRUE BARITONE. If you can show me that then I will forget this idea of "tenor" High C. If Baritones could hit High C as a tenor as you say, then the predominant recordings of people singing it would not be tenors but tenors and baritones.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie i didnt say a baritone could hit a High C as well as a tenor or that many baritones can do it. but any baritone can hit a high C all u need to do is learn head voice
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 Can you?
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie i can but im a really high baritone cause i can belt up to High D or D# my range is D2-G#6 but Chris Cornell from soundgarden is a baritone that can belt a High C. btw i might be a low tenor but i doubt it
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 My friend can smash low E flat yet he can go up to high D and maybe even higher. He's still naturally a tenor because of his sound. True Baritones with the TRUE BARITONE COLOR JUST DONT HAVE ACCESS TO HIGH C. I bet if I listened to your voice you would not carry the Baritone color. If your voice can carry you up to High D or D# then how are you a baritone? More importantly where is your tessitura?where can you sing comfortably?There is just so much stuff that separate bari's to tenors.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie I am a tenor but i am a very low tenor trust me i can sing comfortably from E2-G#5 without warmups. my tessitura is around A2-A5 but baritones can bring themselves up to high C it takes proper breath support and a little bit of grit to get the full voice sound but they can do it because david lee roth does and so does axl rose
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 You just said you were a bari now you say you're a tenor. Just because you say you're a high bari or a low tenor, they are both different voices. See the only reason I believe you think you're a bari is cause you can hit low notes. . It doesn't matter if you are a very low tenor. There's none of that crap. My friend can hit Low E yet sore incredibly high like Michael bolton and he's not even a singer. He's simply a tenor.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie no my timbre could definitely be that of a baritone im not sure whether i am a baritone or a low tenor all i know is that i can hit a low E and F and go up to a high D or even belt an E when ive warmed up completely
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 Just make a video of you singing.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie i dont have a camera but i know some opera so i understand what ur saying but chris cornell is a baritone that can sing that high
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 How is he a baritone. I don't hear the murkyness or that thickness in his voice. If you listen you can hear a certain thinness in his voice regardless of whether or not he sings raspy and dark.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie chris cornell is definitely a baritone there are some baritones with the ability to belt really high. david lee roth could belt up to a C# or D, billy gibbons could belt up to about a C#5 so could elvis. axl rose was also a baritone that could belt up to about a D or D# chris cornell tries to deliver all his performances in the tenor range but if u listen to his cover of whole lotta love in comparison with adam lamberts u can hear the clear difference between a baritone and tenor
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 the height of Adam Lamberts voice is incomparable to any other tenor. If you were to take his voice and compare it with another tenor, the other tenor would be deemed as a baritone if Adams voice was the standard for a tenor voice so don't compare his voice to other singers. Adams lamberts high voice is not only his range... but the extreme lightness and brightness. How could you compare the extreme lightness in his voice to a voice that is clearly lower than his...
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie i understand what your saying but robert plant is the person that sang the song first and he is a tenor. Listen to adam lambert or even chris keller sing and u can hear that theyre voices carry better in the upper register than chris cornells. Cornell is a baritone that can belt up to a C listen to rusty cage
hefra344 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie if u want to hear a baritone hit a high C listen to il cupo dolore by mike patton and he is a true baritone
hefra344 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie and in opera its not that a baritone can only connect to a A or Bb but they dont put notes above that for baritones generally if a baritone can develop a strong mix then they will be able to belt higher
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 In opera and in the classical world, the upper register that is above the pasaggio in let's say a tenor...is Roughly E to F#. This and the notes above are the upper register. It is where there are two resonances...Chest and the head voice are together. This is the same relation towards what everyone here considers a MIX...the only difference is the covering and the color that they apply. If you listen to andrea bocelli, would you not say his upper register is not a mix?
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@hefra344 Is his freedom and upper register not the same as what everyone here says is the mix? Is his upper register coordination not the same as how brett, Jesse, and Chris Keller go into their "mix"? They are the same. It is undeniable. If some of the greatest opera singers like the late Pavarotti and Andrea, Juan Diego Florez would sing up in the upper register... with some of the GREATEST TECHNIQUES THEY WORLD HAS TO OFFER?then would it not be the same as a mix? The teachings are the same.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@hefra344 So all I'm really trying to say is that both these terms are the same.. Just of what they apply in the sound of the upper register. So... If some of the greatest natural baritones can only comfortably and correctly sing to A or Bb then what would be the difference of a baritone who learns from this method of getting into the higher upper register or what Brett and everyone else terms as the mix being able to go higher? Then every single baritone would learn from this technique.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie ur not telling me anything that i dont already know i was saying that there arer some lyric baritones that can sing up to a C just like there are some tenors that can belt up to an E or in rare cases an F. Im a baritone i know i was slightly confused before but i am 100% sure know. I can belt up to a D
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 Why do I always see some connection with baritones and Tenor High C. Is it something people lust for?
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie i dont lust for the high C trust me i want to be able to hit the soprano high C the way i can hit tenor high C and it took more work to belt up to a D than a C for me
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 If you were to take a lyrical baritone, and a tenor, both professional and sing professionally.. (In the Classical World that is)... and vocalize them (no Doubt that these two have incredible technique)... The baritone will connect to High A and maybe Baritone Bb as I like to call it... but since the tenor is a higher voice it will properly transition towards the High B Natural and Tenor High C. Just the way it works.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
@piinoieboiie i know but i connect above the A and Bb i told you i can belt up to a D
hefra344 1 year ago
@hefra344 I just told you. If you can go up and vocalize properly only bari's WILL BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO ONLY THE A AND Bb, BUT TENORS WILL BE ABLE TO CROSS THAT AND GO UP HIGHER. If you can connect to a High D then no doubt you're a tenor. I would like to see a bari go up that high.
piinoieboiie 1 year ago
Amazing lesson..and she's epic hot...
impactblue573 2 years ago 6
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TheBrownTies 2 years ago
He's belting F sharp above middle C. Is that a normal baritone top note? I wonder about the veracity of these courses. I'm a low baritone, and although I wish I was a tenor; sometimes you've gotta accept your limitations. I suspect the singing success course exploit this. I'm never gonna hit tenor C, innit.
drstirling 2 years ago
Depends what you mean by top note.. I know baritones that get around G (above) High C and beyond. Thats fully connected (not fallseto), But you do have to thin out (more head resonance) as you go higher.. It's impossible to sing G above high C like Pavarotti if your a baritone or a tenor!
The limits of a certain voice is 99 times out of 100 self imposed. All voices are great if developed and dull if not developed. Its not what you've got but how you use it..
cwehden 2 years ago
I ment to say 'It's impossible to sing G above high C like a Pavarotti high C if your a baritone or a tenor!'
cwehden 2 years ago
umm...well the voice types dont tell u how high ur voice will go but where ur comfortable range is so yes a baritone can go higher than a tenor but not be in their comfortable range. ive seen baritones belt a c6 in mixed voice that was chest dominant.
thegodofpop1 2 years ago
I call bullshit. There is no chest at C6. Not for any male.
ReverendNovember 2 years ago
And 'a baritone' can't 'go higher' than a 'tenor'. Everyone has their own range at any given time. No use generalizing. I can sing higher than untrained altos, so what? That doesn't do crap for generalizations. People: Learn before you talk.
ReverendNovember 2 years ago
Tenors and Baritones have the same bridges. E-F# 1st bridge. C5 second bridge. What are you calling 'tenor c'? I'm a baritone too. I can hit C5 no problem. Do the exercises. Forget about being a tenor.
ReverendNovember 2 years ago
@ReverendNovember i agreee!
koda1494 1 year ago
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markmichaelwong 2 years ago 2