Had that fight in the mgm never happend with baby lane......pac wud still be alive...suge wudda not gone to jail and deathrow wudnt have fell....pac wuda started makveli records....suge wuda started deathrow east... And i feel badboy records wuda been wiped off the map!!
Like I said before. His movie money was going to his family. Most his music money was going to legal fees. Anything left over was either spent or invested back into music videos & studio hiring. The deal was bad but he still got paid. 75 million sales as of 2007...his estate is cleaning up 16 years after his death. If he was paid only $1 per sale his estate would have around $75 million. he would have MUCH more if his movie production company & record lable were operating.
...suge lost all his power, fear n respect these days that fight at the mgm sep 7 1996 fucked up everything pac got killed deathrows biggest star then its ceo suge goes to prision for 5 years then all the row artists left ... Its a dam shame deathrow fell off like it did but deathrows problem was "keeping it gangsta " which in turn cost it, its place in hiphop......
Suge needs to sit down and chill out man dis aint the early-mid 90s no more puffy put a hit out on suge n pac but was kickstarted by baby lane gettin beatin up by deathrow niggazs suge gets a bloods gangmember to take care ov biggie eye for an eye fuk man puffy and suge are pretty much the reason to blame for biggie n pacs demise fuck thm both thats wat i say ..... Both shady fuckers me personallly think they fuked up hiphop worst things for it......
@koolio11 Yeah u right but Pac was a marked man before the incident with Orlando. Keefe D was hired by Puff. Keefe was in the cadilac, he couldnt get a clear shot so he gave the gun to Orlando in the back seat. It was coincidence that Orlando happened to pull the trigger. Pac was meant to get shot that night regardless of the Orlando beating. Yeah both Puff & Suge fuked it up. I have to be honest though, no disrepect to Big but im glad badboy lost their #1 artist.
Right. suge got KO'd by a random barber, shot at kanye's bet award after party in L.A,& the fool was breaking into homes in L.A about 2 years ago. suge was a feared man 1991-1997, but nowadays suge is just a walking joke,still got a bitter taste in his mouth on how bad boy slowly took death row's spot. the nigga talking shit in this video over shit that happened 20 years ago,that's how u know he feels shitty,& any1 w/ a brain-cell knows diddy can get suge taken out anytime he wants.
@unbornak47 Hey dumb kid!!! Suge "talkin shit over shit happened 20 yrs ago"???? U do understand that Puffy got Pac killed right??? So shut the fuck up when Suge says there is still business to take care of. Ur dumb ignorance is getting fucking annoying. U want Suge to just forget that Puff got Pac killed???? Ur just a little kid bro. Who cant handle the fact that Big & badboy suck. I havnt heard a peep out of badboy for like 10 years so if they are still alive only geeks know about it.
(DIDDY DIRTY MONEY COMING HOME DECEMBER 14, 2010 MAY 17, 2011 INTERSCOPE DIGITAL 2.00X MULTI PLATINUM SINGLE GROUP) suge or pac haven't seen a Multi-Platinum Plaque in Years. probably don't remember how a platinum plaque looks,since death row's accessibles got auctioned off. i'm not the 1 hating in a video what suge is clearly doing. diddy didn't owe pac $15mil did he. 1996 "can't nobody" #1 record in the U.S,"get money" 1xplatinum,"hardcore" 2xplatinum bad boy silently ran
@unbornak47 Suge paid $1.5 mil bail for Pac. That was not free. That came out of Pacs royalties. Pac sold like 6 million records & his commission was like 1% plus bonuses. If Suge owed Pac anything it was not much at all. At the time when Pac was alive he would have made like $7 million. He owed $1.5m to Suge for bail. Pac didnt want anything in his name for legal reasons so in Suges name he bought a house, a Rolls, a Jaguar & other stuff. He had to pay for the music videos he was making.
LOL,bitch nigga suge paid pac's bail for a 3 lp contract."all eyez on me" counted as 2,"7 day theory" counted as the 3rd & Last Official LP. the shit had nothing to do w/ royalties face facts,suge fucked pac outta $15mil,pac Fulfilled his Contract Obligations,& still died broke. in suge's name,meaning it's uge's cars/cribs,pac died w/ less than $100,000 in his account. was a sucker for real,had the sales,but went to the grave Broke.b.i.g died Paid homeboy.& as a CEO.
@unbornak47 lol I got a question for ur dumb ass, why u always repeat what I say?? Did I not say 3 albums (AEOM x 2 & Makaveli)???? Oh thats right coz ur a dumb fuck!! Dude read the notes of the contract I wrote & work it out. Pac was getting paid. He would have got like $5-$6 mil. Where ur dumb ass get $15 mill from? Pac sold like 6-7 million lp's when he was alive at deathrow. He only got paid for AEOM.
@unbornak47 So what if things were in Suges name?? Ur dumb ass dont know what asset protection is. NOBODY who is smart holds anything in their own name, if they do then they are STUPID. If its not in ur name then nobody can sue u for it. Pac definately did not want anything in his own name. I guess ur still a young mafuka...When u get older u will understand shit like Asset Protection, Income Protection, Wealth Creation, Tax Minimisation & Estate Planning.
@unbornak47 I dont think u see the point. Pac was livin it up. He was ballin. Who cares what he had in his bank account when he died? The guy was living large before he died. He had more than enough money to play with dude. Also Suge didnt give him ALL of his pay at one time. Suge was like Pacs credit card, whenever he wanted his money he would see Suge. So Pac was paid...he just died before he was able to charge more on his credit card (Suge). Afeni collected the rest anyway. Ur funny dude.
@unbornak47 he had to pay for studio time. He had to pay for having a Deathrow Lawyer, he paid thousands in rent for hotels & appartments. Bro he was paid most of it. Suge would give him $5k here $5k there. The ONLY time there was a problem with pay was after he died & his mother Sued Suge. Pacs contract was only for 3 albums (AEOM x 2 & Makaveli) which he completed but DR was still making money off Pac. Pac was paid most of his $ at the time. Its only rumors that he wasnt paid.
@unbornak47 Pac was getting paid what he expected. He knew the contract when he signed it. Unfortunately it was a bad deal but he wasnt going to stay in jail so he agreed. His estate is killing it now. Its not like Pac was making millions & millions.
...Tupac would be paid an advance of no less than $1 million, or $1 million for every million copies of the prior album which was sold, and he would be paid a royalty of 18% of sales, plus a bonus of l% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. Tupac said at the time he signed the contract “I know I’m selling my soul.” But he couldn’t stand another few years in prison".
"They worked out a contract in which Tupac would receive an advance of $1 million for the first album, in addition to $125,000 for a car, a $120,000 expense allowance for one year, a $250,000 legal fund to be spent as Tupac desired. Tupac would be paid a royalty of 18 points for sales of the first album, plus a bonus of 1% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. For the second and third,..
@unbornak47 Ur still lookin for some bullshit excuses lol...u got nothing. Pac was living it up in his last year & his mother ended up getting paid anyway so it worked out as it was supposed to. U bullshit about music & proved Pac DESTROYED Big, the u talk about movies & I proved Pac DESTROYED Big now u talking about money? Pac was DESTROYING Big too. Give up bro, u got nothing....just like Big....BABY BABY!!!
@unbornak47 Shit didn't happen over 20 years ago. You're going by what that TMZ guy said aren't u? lol. I'm sure Suge still is bitter on everything that happened, but that's on him. BTW,That's true that only geeks like yourself know if badboy is still making records. Last time I heard from them was on that making the band shiit. Bucky still releasing stuff though pussface? Nevermind, I don't give a fuuuuck
bad boy still knows how 2xplatinum looks,while suge haven't seen it since he 1990's. if ur dumbass actually believe suge can get diddy touched,then ur a moron. diddy stays in L.A,so if dude wants diddy touched shouldn't be hard to do,seen as how diddy lives in suge's territory. but instead of getting diddy touched, dudes getting his head KO'd off by random barbers in L.A. whatever cash dude does have is the cash he never paid snoop,pac,& dre. go blow suge personally fag.
& that random barber Still got suge looking like a bitch,after he Knocked suges fucking jaw off. cry all u want homeboy,suge haven't seen platinum since 1996. Never heard/seen videos of diddy getting deebo'd.suge is a fucking joke.nigga just mad b/c after 15-16 years after their biggest artists passing,diddy is the cat still on top. if a random barber is chin checking suge,then it wouldn't bee too hard for diddy to erase this Broke Clown.diddy has money,power,& respect. suge
is a washed-up has been.that gets his chin checked,waking up on the street regular barbers/9-5 working nigga's. how many times this fool got his ass handed to him? At least twice. diddy launched bad boy in 1994,suge launched death row in 1991.& who's the cat still seeing 2XPlatinum.& worth over $450mil. Suge & Death Row Lost.step outta 1996.there Dead.stick a fork in them,they're dead & Never going platinum again,let alone Gold. Death Row & Suge= Broke Washed Up Has Beens
Face it bro...Everything Pac touches is MINIMUM PLATINUM. 75 million worldwide!!!!!!!!!! 1 million AEOM in 2 days!!!!! Fatboy sells 2 million in his whole career ahahahahahaha. Nothing u can say is going to change the fact that Big is ALWAYS going to be in Pacs shadow. Ask somebody "who is Big?" & the answer will be "the fat dude that Tupac destroyed on Hit em Up & phukd his wife". "Who is 2pac?"..."hes the worlds greatest rapper with thuglife on his belly!" hahahahahahaha
Yawn. i'm done arguring w/ u homeboy. u steady saying how pac sold all these singles,when RIAA.com only got 5 pac singles. b.i.g sold 10mil in singles Alone. pac's more of a star than b.i.g,then why b.i.g sell 2.5mil in the digital era in 2006, while pac sold Barely 400,000. & then to make matters Worse for pac,b.i.g got singles that Came Out in 1995,getting re-Certified. u truly are a Joke. u can't find pac's singles b/c they didn't sell or chart,while b.i.g sold 2.5mil 06.
b.i.g's 1st lp is one of the Greatest Albums in hip-hop,& it's a Classic. sold 4mil/4xplatinum w/ 1 feature. how'd "2pacalypse now" do according to fans/critical acclaim/commercial success? been out 20 years,still stuck at 500,000,& is a critically/commercially Flop. b.i.g's 1st & 2nd lp is on Rolling Stones 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time List. pac has Not 1 on that Exact Same List,outta 30 lp's. wasn't no1 thinking of pac til getting shot/jail.dude ain't sell til 95,1st lp in 1991.
@unbornak47 Everyone has there own favourites & 4 me 2pac number 1 & always will be 4 billions of us...big was a great lyricist but as far as music that i can feel biggie aint got it..U also 4 gettin that 2 pac played a huge part in biggies success & the fat fuck turned his back on him...no fuckin loyalty G...I like that REAL shit not no punk ass shit like Biggie...Just my opinion.
& ur telling me his why? when ur ranked G.O.A.T Status off 2 lp's,ur opinion holds no credibility. billions of people love pac? then why isn't his sales at 100mil yet. both b.i.g & pac are Global Icons,& whatever u think or feel about the nigga,he's been solidified. did pac's Entire Career off his debut/1st lp. when any of those 30 lp's pac has reaches Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time,then put pac ahead of b.i.g.pac has not 1 lp on that list. while b.i.g 1st & 2nd lp's are.
& ur telling me his why? when ur ranked G.O.A.T Status off 2 lp's,ur opinion holds no credibility. billions of people love pac? then why isn't his sales at 100mil yet. both b.i.g & pac are Global Icons,& whatever u think or feel about the nigga,he's been solidified. did pac's Entire Career off his debut/1st lp. when any of those 30 lp's pac has reaches Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time,then put pac ahead of b.i.g.pac has not 1 lp on that list. while b.i.g 1st & 2nd lp's are.
ohh shit I forgot to count like another 10-20 singles.Pour out a lil liquor, Cradle to he grave, 2 of Neva had a friend like me/Amerikas Most wanted feating snoop. lol 2 of the hottest rappers did not go atleast 500k?? AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHGAHAHAHAHAHA
Compare Dear Mama to Changes lol....changes is making Dear Mama look how Pac is making Fatboy look. Ur a clown dude. If Dear Mama is platinum then Changes is atleast double Platinum. U think "1 day at a time" featuring feminem didnt sell at least 500k?
aaahhhhahahahahahaha....u think Changes, unconditional love, Wonder if heaven got a ghetto did not sell at least 500k????? Do u know anything about Pac? Seriously? U ask any new gay ass fan to name a song & the 1st thing they say is "changes" lol. Changes has probably outsold all of Pacs other singles. U seriously are stupid. U think Thugs Mansion featuring Nas did not sell at least 500k??? Stop smoking crack & go back to school dude.
Oh shit!!! Go to 2pac.com & search "2Pac Collectors Estate Exclusive Platinum Plaque". Read the writing on the plaque. It says "Presented to Tupac Shakur to commemorate world wide combined sales of MORE THAN 75 MILLION" hahahahahahahahahahahaha last I heard he had 105 million but I'll wait till thats confirmed. 75 million worldwide....Fatboy is chump change. The Director of BOYZ IN DA HOOD who also directed Poetic Justice is negotiating on the Pac Biopic project....ooooweee!!!
Pac Singles; Keep ur Head Up=Gold(500k) I get Around=Gold(500k) How u Want it/Cali love/HitemUp=2 x platinum (2mill) Do 4 Luv=Gold(500k) Dear Mama=Platinum(1 mill) Brendas Got a Baby=? If my Homie Calls=? Trapped=? Holla if ya hear me=? Papas Song=? So Many Tears? Temptations=? 2ofAmerikasMostWanted=? All About U=? I aint Mad at cha=? Toss it Up=? 2 Live & Die in LA=? HailMary=? Made N****z=? Wonder If Heaven..=? Changes=? Unconditional Love=? UTEOT=? Letter 2 My Unborn=?
ours ago Thugz Mansion=? Still Ballin=? Runnin=? 1 day at a Time=? Thugs Get Lonely=? Ghetto Gosspel=? Untouchable=? Pacs Life=? realityIZanILLUSION 2 hours ago
Nov 13 2001 to Nov 30 2005 sold 500,000......500k in 4 years??? Must be a flop lol ur such a dumb ass. So judging by u MJ is a flop too haha whatever.
Wait till they do a recount & update all the sales figures. Pac will have diamond after diamond. AEOM 9 million 14 years ago!!! If it hit 5 mill in just over 1 month u can guarantee its atleast double diamond. lol if it sold 1 million in 2 days in 1998 (2 years after his death) what u think it would be now??? Still 9 million? Sorry bro im done with u. Say what u like, u talk shit out ur ass.
1 million in 2 days!!!!!!!!!!!!! His birthday was june 16..see the point??? His fans love him & bought his album on his birthday.Fatboy dont get no love like that!!!! hahahahahaha.Pac wins hands down.Sorry kid but fatboy is nothing but bubblegum change.Just coz ur dumb ass cant find the figure on RIAA does not mean its not there.Give me ur email & i'll send u screen shots if u want.lol then it will be crystal clear that not only are those figures real, but ur also a dumb ass for not finding them
whatever dude,u already exposed yourself. u already listed the singles w/ = signs,instead of Actual Certification Numbers. pac already lost,dude didn't even sell 500,000 off a lp that's been out 6 years in 2006,b.i.g sold 2.5mil that same year.off singles & lp's. eventually if u can't find the numbers either b/c u put up = signs,that's letting every1 Know u Never found them to begin w/. 2.5mil from b.i.g in 2006,375,000 from pac in 2006,that's 8X more than pac 8x3=24..LOL
@unbornak47 hold up bro....whats this "u put up = signs,that's letting every1 Know.." nonsense. What the hell are u talking about now??? damn ur brain must be fried. "=" means "equals"...what are u saing bro??? what does "=" have to do with anything????? lol i cant stop laughin bro...what do u mean? Infact, how old r u? are u "speacial"??? coz if u are then i will understand & stop being mean. lololololol what the hell are u talking about??? what does "=" have to do with anything? hahahahahahaha
nigga don't even try it. those 20 pac singles u put w/ = signs,instead of the Numbered Certification. LOL @ try & clown me over shit u typed that can't be proven,don't make me pull the entire comment u posted w/ 20 of pac's singles w/ = signs. signs of how u lost,ur bringing MJ into the discussion,when MJ has nothing to do w/ hip-hop @ all.b.i.g & pac was hip-hop,MJ was pop,hence his alter ego "King Of Pop. bitch nigga ur a joke. don't make me pull ur comment w/ the = signs.
@unbornak47 there u go bro I put it myself. What the hell do u mean???? So I cant put an "=" sign? I think what ur dumb ass is trying to say is "you put '?' sign instead of the certification number"...?? is that what u mean bro?? ...."=?" means "equals-NOT APPLICABLE" There was no file, so after the equals sign I put "?".Do u get it? If there is no number on RIAA im not going to make 1 up so I put "?". 2 of Pacs albums & 27 singles are not on there.So we dont know what they sold...understand?
man are u dumb,no file means it didn't sell shit. RIAA.com only put lp's & singles on there site that sold 500,000 or higher,Not lp's & singles that sold 375,000-400,000. gotta sell the Lowest Numbers,which is 500,000 which neither did those 1mil singles u listed or "pac's life". a damn shame b.i.g sold 2.5mil in 2006,while pac sold..LOL 375,000,when those singles & lp's sell 500,000 then RIAA.com will have it on file. if the shit haven't sold @ least 500,000 it's Dismissed.
@unbornak47 Changes Places 1st on US rap charts, 1st Dutch charts, 2nd in German charts, 2nd in Switzerland charts, 3rd in UK charts, 3rd in New Zealand charts, 3rd in Sweden charts & ur dumb ass thinks it didnt sell at least 500k????? hahahahahahahahaha im starting to think ur only playing with me. Bro r u fucking with me???? u r arent u??? u make me laugh dude. Changes did 10 x better than Dear Mama on the charts.Dear Mama = 1st US, 31 Dutch, 81 German, 43 Switz, 27 UK, 4 NZ & 37 AUS lol haha
Pac Singles; Do 4 Luv=Gold(500k) Dear Mama=Platinum(1 mill) Brendas Got a Baby=? If my Homie Calls=? Trapped=? Holla if ya hear me=? Papas Song=? So Many Tears? Temptations=? 2ofAmerikasMostWanted=? All About U=? I aint Mad at cha=? Toss it Up=? 2 Live & Die in LA=? HailMary=? Made N****z=? Wonder If Heaven..=? Changes=? Unconditional Love=? UTEOT=? Letter 2 My Unborn=?
realityIZanILLUSION 2 hours ago
ur whole list besides 5 singles is flawed,none of those others Exist.
Yawn. my point is "nasty girl" Sold More Than "Pac's Life. pac's last lp isn't gold,meaning it couldn't even sell 500,000."nasty girl" sold 500,000,that's my Point. "big poppa" sold 500,000, a 10 Year Old Record,"pac's life" didn't.That's my Point. & here comes the deathblow,"duets" sold 1mil, while pac's life" sold 375,000-400,000. That's my Point. in 2006,b.i.g sold 2.5mil,while pac sold 375,000-400,000..Total in 2006.That's my Point.2.5mil> 400,000.LOL,fucking loser..lol
Pac = 4.5 million (not including 27 singles) Hmmm...wonder how many more platinums???
Albums;
Big = 17 Million
Pac = 36.5 Million (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
Pac made Big END OF STORY!!!! Pac is a LEGEND, Pac has an untouchable LEGACY. Big hasnt even accomplished 1% of what Pac has accomplished. lolololol Im done dude.
Stay in school....or go back to school....AND NEVA LEAVE
ur homie said so himself..."ur nobody till somebody kills u". Big was a nobody till he got shot, and whatever he was before that was from the beef & drama with Pac. Pac made Big END OF STORY
the name of the record alone is a shot @ pac. wasn't that record released after pac died,& recorded while b.i.g was alive,dude ur a moron. pac was a nobody for years.like RIAA.com shows,it took "2pacalypse now" 4 years to sell 500,000,took pac's 2nd lp the Highly Controversial Titled "strictly 4 my niggaz" 1995 to go platinum,which was released Early 1995,but somehow that lp sold 1mil,once pac got locked.so in conclusion,pac wasn't a gold seller,he was a Barely Gold Seller..
w/ 4 years to sell 500,000. those are Pathetic Sales. lol @ "nasty girl", a single outselling an Entire LP,w/ a Gold Certification."big poppa" is how old? & went gold again in 2006,the same year "pac's life" dropped,so in conclusion b.i.g sold 1mil in singles 2005-2006,1.5mil w/ "duets",while pac sold LOL @ 400,000. b.i.g sold 25.5mil Total U.S Alone off 6-7 lp's,while pac got 5 100 minute long Double-Disc lp's getting double certifications.still LOL @ "pac's life" U.S Sales
@unbornak47 gold again??? hell u talkin about????? Its not AGAIN u idiot...it just stayed gold when it was recertified, meaning it didnt sell jack shit. As time goes by they check & update the figures. The only figure that u should be looking at is the latest certification date U MORON!!!! The latest cert date shows how many sales have been made from the release date up to that point. Damn I really am talking to a fool. Stay in school homie!!!
here is it when it went Platinum 1995 (NOTORIOUS B.I.G. BIG POPPA/WARNING DECEMBER 30, 1994 MAY 23, 1995 BAD BOY/ARISTA STANDARD PLATINUM SINGLE SOLO) here it is Again re-released & Certified Gold 10 years after it's Original Release (NOTORIOUS B.I.G. BIG POPPA MARCH 08, 2005 DECEMBER 18, 2006 BAD BOY MASTERTONE GOLD SINGLE SOLO) according to RIAA.com here's another b.i.g single selling 500,000 in 2006 (NOTORIOUS B.I.G. NASTY GIRL OCTOBER 26, 2005 AUGUST 31, 2006 BAD BOY
(NOTORIOUS B.I.G. NASTY GIRL OCTOBER 26, 2005 AUGUST 31, 2006 BAD BOY MASTERTONE GOLD SINGLE SOLO). whta's wrong son,getting mad b/c pac haven't had a Gold Single since the mid 1990's. haha,LOL. it shows clear as day Certified in 2006,the same year "duets" sold 1mil (NOTORIOUS B.I.G. DUETS: THE FINAL CHAPTER DECEMBER 20, 2005 FEBRUARY 03, 2006 BAD BOY STANDARD PLATINUM ALBUM SOLO) platinum in 6 weeks. LOL. Quit Embarrassing pac's singles & lp numbers b/c RIAA cant find them.
...Since I know how ur no logic brain works. If u want to talk shit & say Big sold 17 Mill of 4 albums, then I can say Pac sold 26 mill off 4 albums.
Big = 17 mill sales from 4 albums
Pac = 26 million sales from 4 albums.
Those may even be more if RIAA has not included double certification which I dont think it has. If it did, AEOM would be almost 2 x Diamond & LAD would 2 x Diamond. So either way Pac shit on F.A.T by alot...or by even HELL OF ALOT depending if RIAA has not counted double
Im not even sure that RIAA has calculated double certification coz Pac SOLD 5 million actual albums 1 month after release. RIAA shows 5xplat 1 month after release too so I dont think its included double...if it was is should say AEOM was Diamond in 1 month. if thats the case, double all of Pacs double albums & double Bigs double albums.
Pac = 4.5 million (not including 27 singles) Hmmm...wonder how many more platinums???
Albums;
Big = 14 Million
Pac = 36.5 Million (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
Im done with ur no logic ass. Pac MURDERS big in sales. Makes him look like chump change. Look at the figures. Hands down not even close. Those are ONLY US too...internationally Pac will be hiting diamonds like a mine.
ONLY reason big made those sales anyway is coz of the beef & drama with Pac
Pac Singles; Keep ur Head Up=Gold(500k) I get Around=Gold(500k) How u Want it/Cali love/HitemUp=2 x platinum (2mill) Do 4 Luv=Gold(500k) Dear Mama=Platinum(1 mill) Brendas Got a Baby=? If my Homie Calls=? Trapped=? Holla if ya hear me=? Papas Song=? So Many Tears? Temptations=? 2ofAmerikasMostWanted=? All About U=? I aint Mad at cha=? Toss it Up=? 2 Live & Die in LA=? HailMary=? Made N****z=? Wonder If Heaven..=? Changes=? Unconditional Love=? UTEOT=? Letter 2 My Unborn=?
but yet search RIAA.com,& can't find Any of those singles. ur a funny nigga,all this shit ur typing is nowhere on the Actual Site. only thing that looks like chump change is "pac's life" that didn't go gold (500,000) vs "duets" that's 1mil sold,w/ a Gold Single,meaning not only does the lp selling 1mil makes pac's lp look bad,but then b.i.g has a single that Sold More. u Know Nothing about logic or common sense,b.i.g sold 10mil+ in singles,40mil+ off lp's,all coming from...
@unbornak47 Its ALL there bro. I got everything from RIAA.com. Anybody who reads this can easily look it up & see for themselves. The ONLY things not in RIAA.com are the 2 Tupac albums & 27 Singles. For Pac u got to search 3 different things (2 PAC, Makaveli, 2 PAC & THE OUTLAWZ). Everything I mention are there. just face the facts bro BIG IS CHUMP CHANGE hahahahahahahaha
Yawn. i don't go by just random shit. i searched all those singles,& None of them are on RIAA.com searchable database. lil advice. just b/c dude released a lotta singles don't mean they sold,especially if they didn't even make it to the billboard hot 100 chart. LOL @ b.i.g selling 10mil+ off singles,& Proof "nasty girl" outselling an Entire pac's life" lp,which isn't a flop,but a Disaster.damn,375,000-400,000 U.S Sales. a damn shame,u already proved they didn't sell shit..
when u put = signs,instead of there Numbered Certification. i searched all those singles on RIAA.com,found neither 1 of them,didn't find pac's 15 other lp's on RIAA.com,or didn't find the lp Filled w/ Features "pac's life". pac's done,no more lp's are being released,the biopic's director ditched the film,to work on eminems boxing film. shows how much u cats try & compete w/ b.i.g,Known Fact,no1 was thinking of a pac biopic til "notorious" blew up.
@unbornak47 Please stop talking coz ur making urself look stupid.Bro I know ur not this stupid,just stop diggin urself a hole.All the figures are there EXACTLY as I wrote them.Pacs Life isnt even there so we dont know the sales figures IDIOT.Changes is Pacs most famous single...& ur dumb ass thinks if its not in RIAA it didnt sell? Changes would have outsold all of Pacs other singles hands down. I wonder If heaven got a ghetto would have outsold all of Pacs other singles. Bro PLEASE stop talking
Yawn,ur making pac look real Bad claiming all these numbers,but not showing. RIAA.com was ur proof,but then when u can't find everything u listed on RIAA,then RIAA.com is inaccurate? FOH dude,ur a walking contradiction. "pac's life" couldn't even sell the Lowest Certification which is Gold,500,000.looks like the last years of releases b.i. vs pac 2005-2006 b.i.g won,pac,1991 All Over Again.b.i.g had 2 500,000 Sold Singles,& a 1Mil Selling LP,pac didn't according to RIAA 2006
ur trusted pal RIAA.com.word of advice,Not All Double-Disc LP's gets Double Certifications,only the 2/2 lp's that has a time length of over 100 minutes. so know what u speak on,b/c all those lp's ran past 100 minutes,then got double certifications idiot. all those singles u listed w/ only = signs,but no numbers are proving those singles sold 0,"pac's life",got Out Sold by "nasty girl", a fucking single.pac's done. what's p w/ that long past "shakurspear" lp 2006-2008 due out
Albums. Big = 14 million Pac = 42.5 Million ( Not including Thuglife & Pacs Life) Most of Pacs singles cant be found so I wont even include those. Big Singles. Mo $ Mo prob = Platinum (1 mill) Hypnotize= Platinum (1 mill) Big Poppa=Gold (500k) 1 More Change=Platinum(1 mill) Big P/Warning=Platinum(1 mill) Nasty Girl=Gold(500k) Sky's Limit=Gold(500k)
@unbornak47 Nah bro u got it twisted, the only thing embarassing is Bigs fat belly. Didnt u hear??? Big was a cross eyed down syndrome crack baby? He ONLY sold 2 million albums his whole career...THATS EMBARASSING. 80% of his fan base is NY. Pacs is 40% US 60% international...THATS EMBARASSING.
didn't u say hit em up,& changes is platinum. well i searched the shit outta RIAA.com,neither 1 of those singles are on RIAA searchable database. LOL, get the fuck outta here w/ those wikipedia numbers. u know what makes pac look really bad vs b.i.g? how warning,which is a Street Single Sell 1mil,it's on RIAA.com for Proof,while pac took years to sell.wheres changes & hit em up? nowhere to be found. b4 getting shot pac was a Average Gold Selling Rapper. Never seen a Platinum
Plaque til 1995,debuted 1991. RIAA.com has it clear as day,that dude didn't see a platinum single or platinum lp til 1995. so go on keep dodging. u talking hits,nigga pac was Never seeing b.i.g in the hits catalog,b.i.g got 9 Platinum Singles,while pac only has 3.pac got 30 lp's floating around worldwide,& sold 70mil+.b.i.g got 7 lp's & is @ 40+,that's Embarrassing pac alone @ how a fat,obese,cock-eyed nigga came in the game sold 6mil in 1 year,sold 25mil worldwide more in
death,compared to a cat that was around had lp's in stores as early as 1991.pac couldn't go platinum to save his life. the cats lucky to be part of death row,death row was already a Power House off dre & snoop's lp's alone. "ready to die 4x-5x,life after death, 10x-11x, born again 2x-3x, duets 1.5x,conspiracy 500,000+,no way out 7xplatinum. u do the math,pac wasn't competition. u have no clue on what ur speaking on,u don't work @ RIAA,so fuck outta here w/ ur calculations..
@unbornak47 Hit em Up is on the Bside to How Do U Want it....do u understand what that means???? its on the same disc u dumb fuck hahahahahaha 2x platinum in 2 months.
uh lets see,which Actually sold."greatest hits 4.6-4.9mil,until the end of time 1.5mil,r u still down,2mil,better days 1mil. get those fake sales outta here dude. that's why pac has all those Double-Certifications,but no Double Sale. so all those double-disc lp's,minus "aeom" Actually sold half those Certifications.
@unbornak47 LAD double certified too idiot...its double album. See what I mean? u got zero logic. Listen bro, do urself a favor & go back to school. If ur in school then study harder & stop listening to rap & hip hop. I dont know how old u are but ur logic is like a 12 year old. If u are actually 12 then im just wasting my time talking to ur no logic ass.
& go on w/ how "aeom" sold so much in 8 weeks,but still haven't showed dude on not 1 page of the guiness book of world records for fastest selling album. ur a pac stan so of course ur gonna dimiss b.i.g's "only" 2mil sold debut,but that 2mil debut had b.i.g number 1 on all Billboard Charts far as rap,r&b,& pop as Top-Seller. when pac's lp finish as top-seller? that's right,never seen it off 5 lp's..a damn shame. in the end b.i.g's a Global Icon,& gets Equal Respect as pac.
Oh shit I just check AEOM. 5 x platinum in ONE MONTH, not 2 hahahahaha.
Everything Pac dropped hit minimum platinum....and thats ancient figures. They only calculated Pacs sales for a few months then stopped. The only thing that is updated is Greatest Hits 2011. Everything else is only a small fraction of what the REAL numbers are. lol Pacs sales make F.A.T look like bubblegum change
@unbornak47 Bro stop posting figures & asking for sales numbers coz ur figures u post are wack. 2ndly the ONLY argument u got is Pacs 1st 3 albums. THUGLIFE is not even registered in RIAA so there are NO certification data, so nobody knows how much that sold. Seeing that Pac is known as "the Thuglife guy" with a huge "Thuglife" tattooed across his stomach im sure it would be atleast platinum. Its marketing common sense.
@unbornak47 The only weak Pac albums was 2paclypse & the remixed Pacs Life....thats it. Everything else went minimum plat. U got no argument dude. U just keep going round in circles talking bullshit numbers & I keep putting the REAL numbers from RIAA. face it, Pac outsold Big in every way...I dont give a fuck about 2paclypse & Pacs life lol. His 1st album sucked coz 1stly he was supressed, 2ndly he was 19, 3rdly his style was immature. The more mature he got the better his music got.
@unbornak47 Even though Pac raped Bigs FAT ass in sales...at the end of the day sales dont mean jack. Beiber, Soulja Boy, Lil Wayne, 50, etc...all sell more than Pac & Big & they SUCK. So sales dont mean shit. What matters is LEGACY.....something that Big dont got. Pacs LEGACY is untouchable. Pac reached a wider audience than Big did. Sorry bro face the facts Pac is a LEGEND, Big is......FAT!
all in all,when it's said & done,& when u pac stans are done guzzling pac,b.i.g gets as much respect,is a global icon in hip-hop,has his lyrics sampled more than any1,matter of fact look up jamie foxx's record "living better now" & hear who's famous line is the hook,search monica's "anything" record,which is a Remake of "who shot ya" w/ ross flowing the same as b.i.g,look up "everything to me remix" which all sampled b.i.g's lyrics. & those records was released 2010-2011..
gets ranked G.O.A.T As much as pac,sold 50% of pac's total sales w/ less than 50% of material as pac. why do ur sorry ass keep bringing up "hit em up"? 2 Facts why it's Irrelevant.
1."hit em up" is Not even on "aeom",so therefore it can't be a B-side single,if it's Not on the actual lp.
2.RIAA.com doesn't have "hit em up or changes",Nowhere on it's site. LOL @ the lies u make up for pac.quit swallowing pac,it's Not There.meaning it didn't sell shit like "pac's life"..LOL
U must be a 12 or 13 year old little kid, u dont understand a damn thing do u. Pac dissed F.A.T on his own beat. That the POINT u fool!!! Proves u dont know what u talking about. HitemUp was on the Bside of "How Do u Want it" it sold 2 MILLION IN 2 MONTHS. Dissin somebody on their own beat is gangsta...thats why 50 does it, Feminem does it & others do it. Th beat from hit em is "get money" & those lyrics from another. Shows how dumb u are bro....Pac killed Bigs career with his own beat hahahaha
Yo bring back the 90s and let the east coast west coast war star. Respect Suge Knight, He was a feared man in the 90s, lots of people feared him. Peace
Pac will be remembered as the GOAT for 100's of years. Big will be nothing, zero, nada, zip, zilch. To some people Pac is even a god bro. U have no clue how much more relevent Pac is than Big. 2 million in his whole career??? hahahahahahahahahaha bow wow sold more than that!!! hahahahahahahaha
pac's not remembered off 1 lp,now is he? the 4 year flop ran to death row to sell.b.i.g's the only MC that's getting ranked G.O.A.T w/ 2 lp's to his name in hip-hop..Period.don't pac got 30 lp's & his death to be ranked G.O.A.T vs a cat w/ 2 lp's.didn't b.i.g's 1st 2 lp sell 30mil worldwide,while pac's 1st 2 lp's barely sold 3mil worldwide.wasn't pac suckking N.Y dry,by naming himself N.Y,while b.i.g is the King of N.Y.wasn't b.i.g's only lp's Classic,pac's..Weed-plates..LOL
@unbornak47 I just ralised Im talkin 2 a kid with no logic. Ur silly little brain keeps mentioning Pacs 1st few albums when I already told u he was being supressed. Do u understand what that means??? He was getting no air time, His records were being pulled of the shelves,his shows were being cancled,the vice president said his music should be banned,record companies did not want to work with him coz he was too political & controversal.I guess an immature ignorant brain just does not understand.
@unbornak47 I guess ur little brain just does not understand these things. After feminem destroyed L2TG people lost faith in the next album which was Pacs Life. Plus, use ur brain a little bit, it doesnt take a genius to know that the only people who buy Pac albums now are new fans. The OG fans already have his unreleased bootlegs. Pacs bootlegs were leaked in 97-98 & even though people were downloading them like crazy his records still sold like hot cakes. Imagine if there was no bootlegs...
@unbornak47 ...if there were no bootlegs then Pacs sales will easily be double. If milllions of people had not downloaded all his unreleased work they would have bought the cd's....does that make sense to ur ignorant little brain? Even with the bootlegs his records sold. lol are u 12 years old? do u have any common sense? Like I said even I didnt buy Pacs Life....shit I havnt bought a Pac album since Makaveli....& im one of his biggest fans since 95.
Yawn. excuse,after excuse. so why did "2pacalypse now" barely sell 500,000? why did "pac's life" sell 400,000, while 'duets the final chapter" sold 1.2-1.5mil+ in the U.S,when both lp's came out the same time-frame. lol pac's a Flop,wasn't selling til he got locked up,that was pac's breakthrough,1991-1995 dude was seeing no platinum plaques @ All. hold ya breath for that "shakrspear" lp that supposed to had dropped 2007-2006,2012 still haven't dropped.
@unbornak47 If there were no bootlegs then everything from AEOM to Pacs Life would be diamond. Greatest hits is diamond & that album sucks...People dont buy albums these days dude coz everybody already downloaded all of Pacs work. Nobody wants bullshit remixes, we prefer the og's the way he made it. So talking about the sales of Pacs Life just shows how ignorant u are. Imagine how many Pac fans there are like me who have not bought an album since Makaveli....imagine what his sales would be...
@unbornak47 if we didnt have the bootlegs or file sharing. lol All Pacs albums would be going Diamond. Another reason why Pacs earlier work didnt sell much is his style was old school. If u listen to 2paclypse, S4MN, TGLFE, MATW,AEOM,Makaveli u will see that his style is different in every single album. I didnt like his old school style. I only like MATW onwards. There are a handful of songs I like but i prefer his new style. Like the other dude said, Pac was adapting & changing. he perfected it
@unbornak47 So ur arguments of Pacs life & Pacs earlier albums have NO relevence. Ohh & u keep mentioning singles bro, I have not once said nothing about a Pac single bu since u keep bringing up Bigs single then how about this...RTD went plat in 2 years..How do u want it/Cali love single went 2 x plat in 2 months.Pacs 1 single fucked Bigs whole album so please dont mention singles.The only Pac work that did not do so well is 2paclypse, Thuglife & Pacs life.Everything else went at least platinum
whatever dude.pac has 2 multi-platinum singles,& 1 platinum single. a total of 3 platinum singles.get that shit outta here."big poppa 1mil,1 more chance 1mil,warning 1mil,flava in ya ear remix 1mil,get money,1mil,hypnotize 1mil,mo money 1mil,been around the world 1mil,all about the benjamins 2mil. so that's 9 platinum singles,to pac's Dre Produced 2x singles. 3 platinum singles from pac,while 9 from b.i.g.it's obvious who could move units,& who couldn't & it damn sure wasn't
pac.how's those total 21 year "2pacalypse now" numbers looking compared to "ready to die"? oh,forgot,it haven't even sold 50% of "rtd" in 1991,1995,or today in 2012. how's "strictly 4 my niggaz" looking vs "life after death"? oh forgot,took 2 years to sell 1mil in the U.S,while b.i.g 2nd lp sold 10mil in 3 years in the U.S.face facts lil nigga,b.i.g seen it all,done it all off 2 lp's.his 1st lp is a Remembered Debut Classic LP.b.i.g got more platinum single."life after death
matches the status of pac's entire original & posthumous material seperately. go support ur boy "pac's flop",it's Embarrassing that lp been out almost 10 years,still haven't went gold.(NOTORIOUS B.I.G. BIG POPPA MARCH 08, 2005 DECEMBER 18, 2006 BAD BOY MASTERTONE GOLD SINGLE SOLO) even the single "big poppa" just got certified again."juicy" even sold more than "pac's life & 2pn"..Combined.pac's threw.those other 15 lp's sold 25,000-50,000...Globally.LOL
@unbornak47 Dude most of these sales figures from RIAA are old. They stopped certifying many of Pacs albums the very same year he released them. So obviously those figures would atleast 2 or 3 times more. AEOM was last counted in 1998 9xplat...lol 1998???? Pac was not as big back then as he is now. AEOM should be atleast 2 x diamond. If all his certification is updated then it will expose how little Big is compared to Pac. MATW last counted 2 x plat in 95. BDays counted 2xplat 2003.
@unbornak47 lol Cali love/How do u want was only cd that had Hit em Up as a B side.The next album to contain HitemUp was Greatest Hits in 1998.The single went 2xplat in 2 months in 96 then they stopped counting.So from 96 to 98 that 1 single would easily be 4,5 maybe 6 x plat.If in 2 months it got 2xplat & it contained the greatest diss track in history then what? u think it would just sit at 2 x plat?? Pacs figures are old & he still destroying Big.If it was updated it would be ZERO competition
@unbornak47 Then there are the international figures. Everybody around the world wants to be like Pac. Pac has more fans than Big does hands down. Sorry bro but Big is nothing compared to Pac. Big main support is locally in NY. Pac is international. Like I said, his legacy is huge. That says it all. Big got no legacy...he will be gone & forgotten while in 100 years people will be studying Pacs poetry, philosophy, lyrics, movies etc. Pac killed Big in every way. Sorry u cant except it.
if any1 gonna be forgotten it's pac. ask any1 the name of b.i.g's 1st lp,they Know it. ask any1 the name of pac's 1st lp,that been out 21 years,they'd say "strictly 4 my nigga or 1 his death row releases. a damn shame how dudes ranked G.O.A.T,but no1 realizes his 1st lp made no noise,besides the sound it made when it flopped. b.i.g debut lp haven't even been out 20 years yet,& fans know the name of it,& what it did,& made b.i.g who he is.pac's 1st lp is named after him..
him. w/ his name as the title,& a classic film,& people still don't know the name of it. pac doesn't have much many more fans than b.i.g b/c while alive,b.i.g was more successful. whether it was 2mil,so what,now it's 4mil & sold then pac's 1st 3 lp's then & now.pac has more fans? dudes last lp haven't even sold 500,000 worldwide or U.S yet,while b.i.g's last lp is Platinum.it surpassed pac's flop",i mean life in 1 week.just like "ready to die" did vs "2pn & sfmn"...Combined.
sorry u can't except that b.i.g's 1st lp is a Classic.every1 knows the name. u nigga's bring pac's later work vs b.i.g's 1st lp,b/c u know it's an embarrassment.b.i.g's already solidified.been Diamond since 2011,biopic been out years,been grossed $65-$70mil,while pac's biopic is getting ditched for a boxing film starring eminem.go on keep comparing 1st lp vs 4th lp,by doing that,ur Proving how Pathetic pac's 1991-1995 resume was.not even 20 years yet,b.i.g's debut lp is in..
history. let me give Facts on a lotta MC's most respected lp's,that's there 1st lp's "amerikkka's most wanted,1x,straight outta compton,2x,chronic,4x,doggystyle,4x-5x,reasonable doubt,1x,slim shady lp,4x-5x,ill-matic,1x,36 chambers,1x,ob4cl,1x,tical,1x,eazy duz it,2x. there u have it,just released eazy-z,jay-z,cube,nas,raekwon,eminem,method man,snoop,dre,n.w.a,& b.i.g's debut/1st lp's as being there most Respected work,& sold 1mil in the U.S.wheres "2pacalypse".Not Classic.
Damn you really dont use logic to your arguments. I understand u have something against Pac which is really sad to see. U seem to know and recognise Biggie's talents but u cant understand Pac's. BTW u cant measure a classic album by its sales. 50 cent's debut album sold a shitload. More than Cuban Links and Illmatic. But it doesnt mean that 50 is a great rapper. What does it even matter if Tupac didnt do well Biggie in the mainstream market?
b.i.g didn't use negativity like pac did,did he.for some reason u fools can't read the title of the video,instead u break ur back defending these clown pac & suge. that's why dre & snoop left,they made death row look bad & what pac do once dre left? started dissing him. diss the cat who produced ur 1st #1 hit on billboard hot 100 chart. i could care less about dudes later work,u fools rank him the G.O.A.T,w/ a trash 1st lp,then when u can't compare 1st vs 1st,it's 1st vs 4th. FOH dude
Im not protecting Suge at all. Im only replying to u bcoz u talk nonsense and I should stop bcoz u have no respect for the culture. A lot of MCs have indeed used negativity in their music. Its becoz its part of life and especially within the societies they grew up in. BIG capitalised on a Mafioso image just as Nas, Jay, Rae and a whole bunch of rappers have. But they dont live that life. It doesnt even matter what an artist's first LP is like as long as the music keeps getting better
tht's not logic @ all as u try & make it seem.it's not even common sense. a damn shame u got other respected MC's east/west/south who dropped classics off there 1st lp's,but the so-called G.O.A.T took 3 lp's to drop a classic. far as 50's concerned,no he's not a better MC than nas or rae..but he's a Better Businessman than nas,pac,& rae in 1.50 & pac are both average far as lyrical ability.but a Facts show,the rap-game is a Business.pac didn't realize that did he?
@unbornak47 Oh u still talking???? Sorry bro I didnt read a damn word. I forgot who we were talking about...Pac &.....uh???.....who was the other dude???? Dont know, some fat dude I guess. All I got to say is....Pacs single went 2 x Platinum in 2 months, His album went 5 x platinum in 2 months. And who was that fat dude??? what was his name??? Notorious F.A.T or something??? His whole career he sold jack shit. Sorry bro im done with ur no logic ignorant thinking. BABY BABY!!!!
b.i.g has 9 platinum singles,all dude need is 1 more platinum single,then his singles wiould match the status of "life after death" 1xplatinum. how was pac on his 4th ,no 5th lp,& only have 3 platinum singles.how much dudes 1st & 2nd lp sell again? 3mil worldwide. how much "pac's flop" sell 400,000,while "duets" been platinum for 7 years.ur opinion means Nothing,b/c RIAA.com got b.i.g selling 6mil in 1995,months after he debuted.what page is "aeom" on the book of world..
records. keep choking on pac's nut hair. ur not a fan,ur a stan.simple as that.too bad pac relied on drama/controversy to sell.was in the rap-game 4 years,Never seen a platinum lp/single plaque til he got shot,& sentenced to jail. keep on dismissing "2flopalypse now & strictly 4 my niggaz",b/c they didn't sell or wasn't classics,compared to b.i.g's 1st & 2nd 14mil lp's. when ur gonna post pac's "aeom" page from the guiness book of world records? that's right,Can't find them.
Like Nas said there is no "best". U should respect that and u shouldnt disrespect him based on nonsense about record sales or his first LP. Good music is universal and ur missing out buddy. Pac isnt lyrical? Haha. Ignorance is bliss. Theres many aspects to MCing. Pac is mentioned as one of the greatest by many artists including Nas, Jay, Face and Em. The mentality of this culture being simply a business is one of the reasons this music is dying. Shame on u
& Barely Gold.LOL.when ur 2nd lp sells 10mil in the U.S,that's nowhere near "local".only MC to have they're 2nd lp go Diamond (10mil sold in the U.S) is eminem.legacy been made since 1995,when b.i.g brought east-coast back to relevance.while pac had 3 lp's,Flat Broke in the booty-house,& suge is @ source awards hating b/c death row was on it's last legs.2 lp's in G.O.A.T Discussions..nuff said on b.i.g's behalf.1st & 2nd lp's 30mil worldwide.support pac's flop,still 400,000
Hey bud. I know u respect Pac a lot but Biggie will also be remembered as long as hip hop stays alive. There is no universal 'best' or 'greatest'. Pac as an overall artist might be regarded as the greatest the hip-hop culture has ever seen but in terms of lyricism ppl will have their own favourite. But that shit dude (unbornak47?) is talking about is ridiculous. Haha. Pce
As soon as the media reports that Puff ordered Pac & Suge's murder lets see how long he lives. U are aware that Puff ordered the hit right? U are aware that Pac is dead coz of Puffy? Pac was killing Badboys money...puff was losing money. He was being extorted (obviously paying interest on his loans to BMF), Pac was killing the company's rep too. Puff ordered the hit on Suge & Pac coz he was scared of going broke. Pac was a "Badboy Killa" lol. They killed him coz they couldnt handle the pressure
Pac put his mark in the world & created history. Big put his mark in the world too....by falling on his BIG FAT ass & breaking the concrete. hahahahahahaha
Who the fuck was Big compared to Pac??? Big was just a local rapper. Pac on a level that Big could not even dream of ever seeing.Big didnt even know that such a level even existed hahahahahahaha.Like I said bro,Big was nowhere near Pac musically,physically,ethically, morally,lyrically,popularily,intelligently,tallently or spiritualy.Im done with u.u one of those who dont want 2 accept that Big was a nobody till he died.lol Even his dumb fat ass said it himself..."ur nobody till somebody kills u"
Bigs LAD would have sold less than R2D. Big lost many fans due to Pac. Pac exposed him as the bitch he is, lol playing King of NY lol. Big was just a puppet for BMF. Pac attacked BMF's cashflow lol He exposed Puffy for the bitch he is getting robbed by HJ.Puffy slit his wrists coz he couldnt handle the pressure Pac was putting on him.2 million in his whole career???? hahahahahaha 5 million 2 months.We can keep going round in circles dude but its not going to change the fact that Big was a nobody
If Pac & Big didnt die, Pac "may" have gone to jail. There is not enough proof. U can only see half his body & its not enough evidence to say it was him who threw the punch. Watch the vegas fight video & u will see that any good lawyer would have got Pac out of it easy. But lets please u & say he went to jail. He would have still sold records, he would have released even more music & movies. New Pac songs?? Damn that would be hot. he would have completed the DR east who would hav killed Badboy
In 100 years people will know who Pac is....nobody will remember Big. There are courses & lectures on Pac lol. He is part of history now. He is a big part of black history. Pac is a legend. Pac is most probably the reason why the US even has a black president. Pac is the reason why police brutality is less now than in the 90's. Pac is the reason why so many blacks are now on mainstream. He opened doors that werent open. After he died every movie company & music company wanted the next 2pac
Eminem, 50 Cent, Ja Rule clearly wanted to have the same status. love, respect & success as Pac. They even made remakes of his songs, Pain, Hail Mary, HitemUp. They made remixes with him lol. Every rapper wants to be Pac & many gangbangers even want to be Pac even though Pac was no G. Pac was an actor, poet, activist, politician, prophet, writer, panther,philanthrophist.Pac changed the world.He is the MAIN reason why the world even knows who the illuminati is (regardless if they are real or not)
Heres a bit from Pacs wiki. Listen to what people say about him. Shakur is held in high esteem by other MCs – in the book How to Rap, Bishop Lamont notes that Shakur “mastered every element, every aspect” of rapping & Fredro Starr of Onyx says Shakur, "was a master of the flow.", "Every rapper who grew up in the Nineties owes something to Tupac," wrote 50 Cent. "He didn't sound like anyone who came before him." About.com for their part named Shakur the most influential rapper ever hahahaha
Dont u know that there are million of 2pac alive theorists who think that Pac himself is going to show lol those die hard fans alone will break records. hahahaha People have been waiting for this since before that gay ass Notorious. Pac has been immortalised in a Statue, Universities offer different classes on his life, poetry & music. In 2002 he was the 10th highest earning DEAD celeb at $15million, there are countless documentaries on him. Pac influenced & made a huge impact on the earth
word of advice,that $15mil was pac's unpaid royalties he never received when interscope was fucking him outta those "me against the world" royalties.how pac gotta 2x lp in stores,but sitting in jail waiting for b.i.g & diddy to bail him out.same goes for those "all eyez on me" royalties worth $15mil.1 teacher thats a pac fan studies him,@ 1 school,pac's mother Paid for those statues w/ his Unpaid Royalties. far as musics concerned,name another MC thaat sold 2mil in 9 months
& gets labeled G.O.A.T.it's 4mil sold now.now add "2pn,s4mn,& thug life,matw" ,pac had to drop 4 lp's to sell 4mil,& all those certifications came 1995-1996,when the lp's dropped 1991-1995,& got the nerve to clown a lp that's half from going diamond,& sold excess 6mil w/ the singles.how's pac's life numbers looking after 6 years? 400,000.LOL,not even Gold,while duets is well past 1mil in the U.S.matter of fact,how much those other 15 pac lp's sell 25,000-50,000 worldwide.LOL
Reason why those directors back out is coz there is way too much pressure to perform. If they fuck up then they going to have millions & millions of mad Pac fans. Their careers will be over. They too scared to take on the project. Plus, its not easy to find a character to play Pac. Notorious was easy, just get any fat dude to play the role. If u think the demand is not there then u are 1 dumb mothafuka. The 2pac biopic will break records.
Scarface can have a political party dude...anybody can pay someone to run. Thats what Pac was going to do. He was going to have somebody run & tell his fans, snoop fans, MC Hammer fans that "hey that dude represents us, vote for him". He would have taken over. Even while in jail hed be runing the party. Grow some brains. Pac didnt need Suge anymore he was probably leavin DR anyway. The 2pac biopic is going to be big & whoever takes the project will be making a smart business move.
hahahaha The vice President knew who 2pac was bro, the FBI knew who Pac was since birth, the Panthers know who Pac was, the Public knew who Pac was. He made Juice & Poetic Justice. He was famous even without music hahahaha. Like I said if Pac started with Badboy or DR he would have killed it. Do u honestly think people want to hear the same old commercial bullshit? or do they want to hear someone speaking up for their rights & freedom? lol The whole world is behind Pac...Big was just local
2 million albums in his whole career??? hahahahahahahahaha Me against the world did double that, AEOM did 5 mill in 2 months. Argument over. I dont even remember who we talkin bout now...Pac & some fat dude hahahahahahaha
Pac got killed om some street shit.. that's that
BIGTONESTREETLIFE 8 hours ago
wot a prick got 2 of the best rappers killed
HOW IS HE STILL LIVING
soapierlicence9 1 week ago 2
@soapierlicence9 cause im in jail
eazydvzit 4 days ago
Had that fight in the mgm never happend with baby lane......pac wud still be alive...suge wudda not gone to jail and deathrow wudnt have fell....pac wuda started makveli records....suge wuda started deathrow east... And i feel badboy records wuda been wiped off the map!!
koolio11 2 weeks ago
suge is evil
RickyMcDonagh1 2 weeks ago
What? As long as you can fight a little, didn't you got knocked the fuck out suge?
fabolousihone4s 2 weeks ago
i wont rest until sean diddy combs gets murdured
somepass1 2 weeks ago
DIDNT HE GET KNOCKED OUT???
Lososway718 3 weeks ago
Like I said before. His movie money was going to his family. Most his music money was going to legal fees. Anything left over was either spent or invested back into music videos & studio hiring. The deal was bad but he still got paid. 75 million sales as of 2007...his estate is cleaning up 16 years after his death. If he was paid only $1 per sale his estate would have around $75 million. he would have MUCH more if his movie production company & record lable were operating.
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
...suge lost all his power, fear n respect these days that fight at the mgm sep 7 1996 fucked up everything pac got killed deathrows biggest star then its ceo suge goes to prision for 5 years then all the row artists left ... Its a dam shame deathrow fell off like it did but deathrows problem was "keeping it gangsta " which in turn cost it, its place in hiphop......
koolio11 3 weeks ago
Suge needs to sit down and chill out man dis aint the early-mid 90s no more puffy put a hit out on suge n pac but was kickstarted by baby lane gettin beatin up by deathrow niggazs suge gets a bloods gangmember to take care ov biggie eye for an eye fuk man puffy and suge are pretty much the reason to blame for biggie n pacs demise fuck thm both thats wat i say ..... Both shady fuckers me personallly think they fuked up hiphop worst things for it......
koolio11 3 weeks ago
@koolio11 Yeah u right but Pac was a marked man before the incident with Orlando. Keefe D was hired by Puff. Keefe was in the cadilac, he couldnt get a clear shot so he gave the gun to Orlando in the back seat. It was coincidence that Orlando happened to pull the trigger. Pac was meant to get shot that night regardless of the Orlando beating. Yeah both Puff & Suge fuked it up. I have to be honest though, no disrepect to Big but im glad badboy lost their #1 artist.
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
Well we all know Suge can't fight that stupid motherfucker gets knocked out every other week.
tracybuddha 4 weeks ago
Right. suge got KO'd by a random barber, shot at kanye's bet award after party in L.A,& the fool was breaking into homes in L.A about 2 years ago. suge was a feared man 1991-1997, but nowadays suge is just a walking joke,still got a bitter taste in his mouth on how bad boy slowly took death row's spot. the nigga talking shit in this video over shit that happened 20 years ago,that's how u know he feels shitty,& any1 w/ a brain-cell knows diddy can get suge taken out anytime he wants.
unbornak47 4 weeks ago
@unbornak47 Hey dumb kid!!! Suge "talkin shit over shit happened 20 yrs ago"???? U do understand that Puffy got Pac killed right??? So shut the fuck up when Suge says there is still business to take care of. Ur dumb ignorance is getting fucking annoying. U want Suge to just forget that Puff got Pac killed???? Ur just a little kid bro. Who cant handle the fact that Big & badboy suck. I havnt heard a peep out of badboy for like 10 years so if they are still alive only geeks know about it.
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
(DIDDY DIRTY MONEY COMING HOME DECEMBER 14, 2010 MAY 17, 2011 INTERSCOPE DIGITAL 2.00X MULTI PLATINUM SINGLE GROUP) suge or pac haven't seen a Multi-Platinum Plaque in Years. probably don't remember how a platinum plaque looks,since death row's accessibles got auctioned off. i'm not the 1 hating in a video what suge is clearly doing. diddy didn't owe pac $15mil did he. 1996 "can't nobody" #1 record in the U.S,"get money" 1xplatinum,"hardcore" 2xplatinum bad boy silently ran
unbornak47 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 Suge paid $1.5 mil bail for Pac. That was not free. That came out of Pacs royalties. Pac sold like 6 million records & his commission was like 1% plus bonuses. If Suge owed Pac anything it was not much at all. At the time when Pac was alive he would have made like $7 million. He owed $1.5m to Suge for bail. Pac didnt want anything in his name for legal reasons so in Suges name he bought a house, a Rolls, a Jaguar & other stuff. He had to pay for the music videos he was making.
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
LOL,bitch nigga suge paid pac's bail for a 3 lp contract."all eyez on me" counted as 2,"7 day theory" counted as the 3rd & Last Official LP. the shit had nothing to do w/ royalties face facts,suge fucked pac outta $15mil,pac Fulfilled his Contract Obligations,& still died broke. in suge's name,meaning it's uge's cars/cribs,pac died w/ less than $100,000 in his account. was a sucker for real,had the sales,but went to the grave Broke.b.i.g died Paid homeboy.& as a CEO.
unbornak47 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 lol I got a question for ur dumb ass, why u always repeat what I say?? Did I not say 3 albums (AEOM x 2 & Makaveli)???? Oh thats right coz ur a dumb fuck!! Dude read the notes of the contract I wrote & work it out. Pac was getting paid. He would have got like $5-$6 mil. Where ur dumb ass get $15 mill from? Pac sold like 6-7 million lp's when he was alive at deathrow. He only got paid for AEOM.
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 So what if things were in Suges name?? Ur dumb ass dont know what asset protection is. NOBODY who is smart holds anything in their own name, if they do then they are STUPID. If its not in ur name then nobody can sue u for it. Pac definately did not want anything in his own name. I guess ur still a young mafuka...When u get older u will understand shit like Asset Protection, Income Protection, Wealth Creation, Tax Minimisation & Estate Planning.
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 I dont think u see the point. Pac was livin it up. He was ballin. Who cares what he had in his bank account when he died? The guy was living large before he died. He had more than enough money to play with dude. Also Suge didnt give him ALL of his pay at one time. Suge was like Pacs credit card, whenever he wanted his money he would see Suge. So Pac was paid...he just died before he was able to charge more on his credit card (Suge). Afeni collected the rest anyway. Ur funny dude.
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 he had to pay for studio time. He had to pay for having a Deathrow Lawyer, he paid thousands in rent for hotels & appartments. Bro he was paid most of it. Suge would give him $5k here $5k there. The ONLY time there was a problem with pay was after he died & his mother Sued Suge. Pacs contract was only for 3 albums (AEOM x 2 & Makaveli) which he completed but DR was still making money off Pac. Pac was paid most of his $ at the time. Its only rumors that he wasnt paid.
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 Pac was getting paid what he expected. He knew the contract when he signed it. Unfortunately it was a bad deal but he wasnt going to stay in jail so he agreed. His estate is killing it now. Its not like Pac was making millions & millions.
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
@realityIZanILLUSION
...Tupac would be paid an advance of no less than $1 million, or $1 million for every million copies of the prior album which was sold, and he would be paid a royalty of 18% of sales, plus a bonus of l% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. Tupac said at the time he signed the contract “I know I’m selling my soul.” But he couldn’t stand another few years in prison".
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 heres the info on his contract;
"They worked out a contract in which Tupac would receive an advance of $1 million for the first album, in addition to $125,000 for a car, a $120,000 expense allowance for one year, a $250,000 legal fund to be spent as Tupac desired. Tupac would be paid a royalty of 18 points for sales of the first album, plus a bonus of 1% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. For the second and third,..
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 Ur still lookin for some bullshit excuses lol...u got nothing. Pac was living it up in his last year & his mother ended up getting paid anyway so it worked out as it was supposed to. U bullshit about music & proved Pac DESTROYED Big, the u talk about movies & I proved Pac DESTROYED Big now u talking about money? Pac was DESTROYING Big too. Give up bro, u got nothing....just like Big....BABY BABY!!!
realityIZanILLUSION 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 Shit didn't happen over 20 years ago. You're going by what that TMZ guy said aren't u? lol. I'm sure Suge still is bitter on everything that happened, but that's on him. BTW,That's true that only geeks like yourself know if badboy is still making records. Last time I heard from them was on that making the band shiit. Bucky still releasing stuff though pussface? Nevermind, I don't give a fuuuuck
jasonputang 3 weeks ago
bad boy still knows how 2xplatinum looks,while suge haven't seen it since he 1990's. if ur dumbass actually believe suge can get diddy touched,then ur a moron. diddy stays in L.A,so if dude wants diddy touched shouldn't be hard to do,seen as how diddy lives in suge's territory. but instead of getting diddy touched, dudes getting his head KO'd off by random barbers in L.A. whatever cash dude does have is the cash he never paid snoop,pac,& dre. go blow suge personally fag.
unbornak47 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 bad boy still knows how deez nutz look. Jennifer Lopez even treated Puffy like a bitch because thats what he is.
JenkemYahooJiggaboo 3 weeks ago
& that random barber Still got suge looking like a bitch,after he Knocked suges fucking jaw off. cry all u want homeboy,suge haven't seen platinum since 1996. Never heard/seen videos of diddy getting deebo'd.suge is a fucking joke.nigga just mad b/c after 15-16 years after their biggest artists passing,diddy is the cat still on top. if a random barber is chin checking suge,then it wouldn't bee too hard for diddy to erase this Broke Clown.diddy has money,power,& respect. suge
unbornak47 3 weeks ago
is a washed-up has been.that gets his chin checked,waking up on the street regular barbers/9-5 working nigga's. how many times this fool got his ass handed to him? At least twice. diddy launched bad boy in 1994,suge launched death row in 1991.& who's the cat still seeing 2XPlatinum.& worth over $450mil. Suge & Death Row Lost.step outta 1996.there Dead.stick a fork in them,they're dead & Never going platinum again,let alone Gold. Death Row & Suge= Broke Washed Up Has Beens
unbornak47 3 weeks ago
BABY BABY!!!!
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Face it bro...Everything Pac touches is MINIMUM PLATINUM. 75 million worldwide!!!!!!!!!! 1 million AEOM in 2 days!!!!! Fatboy sells 2 million in his whole career ahahahahahaha. Nothing u can say is going to change the fact that Big is ALWAYS going to be in Pacs shadow. Ask somebody "who is Big?" & the answer will be "the fat dude that Tupac destroyed on Hit em Up & phukd his wife". "Who is 2pac?"..."hes the worlds greatest rapper with thuglife on his belly!" hahahahahahaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Yawn. i'm done arguring w/ u homeboy. u steady saying how pac sold all these singles,when RIAA.com only got 5 pac singles. b.i.g sold 10mil in singles Alone. pac's more of a star than b.i.g,then why b.i.g sell 2.5mil in the digital era in 2006, while pac sold Barely 400,000. & then to make matters Worse for pac,b.i.g got singles that Came Out in 1995,getting re-Certified. u truly are a Joke. u can't find pac's singles b/c they didn't sell or chart,while b.i.g sold 2.5mil 06.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 dont matter the nigger big was always under 2pac & will always be...if u dont like it then eat a dick
IYC0370 3 weeks ago
b.i.g's 1st lp is one of the Greatest Albums in hip-hop,& it's a Classic. sold 4mil/4xplatinum w/ 1 feature. how'd "2pacalypse now" do according to fans/critical acclaim/commercial success? been out 20 years,still stuck at 500,000,& is a critically/commercially Flop. b.i.g's 1st & 2nd lp is on Rolling Stones 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time List. pac has Not 1 on that Exact Same List,outta 30 lp's. wasn't no1 thinking of pac til getting shot/jail.dude ain't sell til 95,1st lp in 1991.
unbornak47 3 weeks ago
@unbornak47 Everyone has there own favourites & 4 me 2pac number 1 & always will be 4 billions of us...big was a great lyricist but as far as music that i can feel biggie aint got it..U also 4 gettin that 2 pac played a huge part in biggies success & the fat fuck turned his back on him...no fuckin loyalty G...I like that REAL shit not no punk ass shit like Biggie...Just my opinion.
Peace out B
IYC0370 3 weeks ago
& ur telling me his why? when ur ranked G.O.A.T Status off 2 lp's,ur opinion holds no credibility. billions of people love pac? then why isn't his sales at 100mil yet. both b.i.g & pac are Global Icons,& whatever u think or feel about the nigga,he's been solidified. did pac's Entire Career off his debut/1st lp. when any of those 30 lp's pac has reaches Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time,then put pac ahead of b.i.g.pac has not 1 lp on that list. while b.i.g 1st & 2nd lp's are.
unbornak47 3 weeks ago
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& ur telling me his why? when ur ranked G.O.A.T Status off 2 lp's,ur opinion holds no credibility. billions of people love pac? then why isn't his sales at 100mil yet. both b.i.g & pac are Global Icons,& whatever u think or feel about the nigga,he's been solidified. did pac's Entire Career off his debut/1st lp. when any of those 30 lp's pac has reaches Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time,then put pac ahead of b.i.g.pac has not 1 lp on that list. while b.i.g 1st & 2nd lp's are.
unbornak47 3 weeks ago
Ur dumb ass thinks Pac & Fatboy RUNNIN did not sell more than 500k???? ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
ohh shit I forgot to count like another 10-20 singles.Pour out a lil liquor, Cradle to he grave, 2 of Neva had a friend like me/Amerikas Most wanted feating snoop. lol 2 of the hottest rappers did not go atleast 500k?? AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHGAHAHAHAHAHA
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Compare Dear Mama to Changes lol....changes is making Dear Mama look how Pac is making Fatboy look. Ur a clown dude. If Dear Mama is platinum then Changes is atleast double Platinum. U think "1 day at a time" featuring feminem didnt sell at least 500k?
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
aaahhhhahahahahahaha....u think Changes, unconditional love, Wonder if heaven got a ghetto did not sell at least 500k????? Do u know anything about Pac? Seriously? U ask any new gay ass fan to name a song & the 1st thing they say is "changes" lol. Changes has probably outsold all of Pacs other singles. U seriously are stupid. U think Thugs Mansion featuring Nas did not sell at least 500k??? Stop smoking crack & go back to school dude.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
I cant believe there are actually people who think Fatboy comes even close to Pac, that shit is funny.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
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Oh shit!!! Go to 2pac.com & search "2Pac Collectors Estate Exclusive Platinum Plaque". Read the writing on the plaque. It says "Presented to Tupac Shakur to commemorate world wide combined sales of MORE THAN 75 MILLION" hahahahahahahahahahahaha last I heard he had 105 million but I'll wait till thats confirmed. 75 million worldwide....Fatboy is chump change. The Director of BOYZ IN DA HOOD who also directed Poetic Justice is negotiating on the Pac Biopic project....ooooweee!!!
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Pac Singles; Keep ur Head Up=Gold(500k) I get Around=Gold(500k) How u Want it/Cali love/HitemUp=2 x platinum (2mill) Do 4 Luv=Gold(500k) Dear Mama=Platinum(1 mill) Brendas Got a Baby=? If my Homie Calls=? Trapped=? Holla if ya hear me=? Papas Song=? So Many Tears? Temptations=? 2ofAmerikasMostWanted=? All About U=? I aint Mad at cha=? Toss it Up=? 2 Live & Die in LA=? HailMary=? Made N****z=? Wonder If Heaven..=? Changes=? Unconditional Love=? UTEOT=? Letter 2 My Unborn=?
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
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unbornak47 1 month ago
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Big = 17 mill sales from 4 albums
Pac = 26 million sales from 4 albums.
Singles;
Big = 6 million
Pac = 4.5 million (not including 27 singles) Hmmm...wonder how many more platinums???
Albums;
Big = 17 Million
Pac = 36.5 Million (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
Pac made Big END OF STORY!!!! Pac is a LEGEND, Pac has an untouchable LEGACY. Big hasnt even accomplished 1% of what Pac has accomplished
Pac sold 1 MILLION AEOM albums in 2 DAYS!!!!!!! 2 YEARS AFTER HIS DEATH hahaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
BABY BABY!!!!!
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
ohh
Michael Jackson Greatest Hits Vol 1
Nov 13 2001 to Nov 30 2005 sold 500,000......500k in 4 years??? Must be a flop lol ur such a dumb ass. So judging by u MJ is a flop too haha whatever.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Wait till they do a recount & update all the sales figures. Pac will have diamond after diamond. AEOM 9 million 14 years ago!!! If it hit 5 mill in just over 1 month u can guarantee its atleast double diamond. lol if it sold 1 million in 2 days in 1998 (2 years after his death) what u think it would be now??? Still 9 million? Sorry bro im done with u. Say what u like, u talk shit out ur ass.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
1 million in 2 days!!!!!!!!!!!!! His birthday was june 16..see the point??? His fans love him & bought his album on his birthday.Fatboy dont get no love like that!!!! hahahahahaha.Pac wins hands down.Sorry kid but fatboy is nothing but bubblegum change.Just coz ur dumb ass cant find the figure on RIAA does not mean its not there.Give me ur email & i'll send u screen shots if u want.lol then it will be crystal clear that not only are those figures real, but ur also a dumb ass for not finding them
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
whatever dude,u already exposed yourself. u already listed the singles w/ = signs,instead of Actual Certification Numbers. pac already lost,dude didn't even sell 500,000 off a lp that's been out 6 years in 2006,b.i.g sold 2.5mil that same year.off singles & lp's. eventually if u can't find the numbers either b/c u put up = signs,that's letting every1 Know u Never found them to begin w/. 2.5mil from b.i.g in 2006,375,000 from pac in 2006,that's 8X more than pac 8x3=24..LOL
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 hold up bro....whats this "u put up = signs,that's letting every1 Know.." nonsense. What the hell are u talking about now??? damn ur brain must be fried. "=" means "equals"...what are u saing bro??? what does "=" have to do with anything????? lol i cant stop laughin bro...what do u mean? Infact, how old r u? are u "speacial"??? coz if u are then i will understand & stop being mean. lololololol what the hell are u talking about??? what does "=" have to do with anything? hahahahahahaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
nigga don't even try it. those 20 pac singles u put w/ = signs,instead of the Numbered Certification. LOL @ try & clown me over shit u typed that can't be proven,don't make me pull the entire comment u posted w/ 20 of pac's singles w/ = signs. signs of how u lost,ur bringing MJ into the discussion,when MJ has nothing to do w/ hip-hop @ all.b.i.g & pac was hip-hop,MJ was pop,hence his alter ego "King Of Pop. bitch nigga ur a joke. don't make me pull ur comment w/ the = signs.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 there u go bro I put it myself. What the hell do u mean???? So I cant put an "=" sign? I think what ur dumb ass is trying to say is "you put '?' sign instead of the certification number"...?? is that what u mean bro?? ...."=?" means "equals-NOT APPLICABLE" There was no file, so after the equals sign I put "?".Do u get it? If there is no number on RIAA im not going to make 1 up so I put "?". 2 of Pacs albums & 27 singles are not on there.So we dont know what they sold...understand?
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
man are u dumb,no file means it didn't sell shit. RIAA.com only put lp's & singles on there site that sold 500,000 or higher,Not lp's & singles that sold 375,000-400,000. gotta sell the Lowest Numbers,which is 500,000 which neither did those 1mil singles u listed or "pac's life". a damn shame b.i.g sold 2.5mil in 2006,while pac sold..LOL 375,000,when those singles & lp's sell 500,000 then RIAA.com will have it on file. if the shit haven't sold @ least 500,000 it's Dismissed.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Changes Places 1st on US rap charts, 1st Dutch charts, 2nd in German charts, 2nd in Switzerland charts, 3rd in UK charts, 3rd in New Zealand charts, 3rd in Sweden charts & ur dumb ass thinks it didnt sell at least 500k????? hahahahahahahahaha im starting to think ur only playing with me. Bro r u fucking with me???? u r arent u??? u make me laugh dude. Changes did 10 x better than Dear Mama on the charts.Dear Mama = 1st US, 31 Dutch, 81 German, 43 Switz, 27 UK, 4 NZ & 37 AUS lol haha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
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Pac Singles; Do 4 Luv=Gold(500k) Dear Mama=Platinum(1 mill) Brendas Got a Baby=? If my Homie Calls=? Trapped=? Holla if ya hear me=? Papas Song=? So Many Tears? Temptations=? 2ofAmerikasMostWanted=? All About U=? I aint Mad at cha=? Toss it Up=? 2 Live & Die in LA=? HailMary=? Made N****z=? Wonder If Heaven..=? Changes=? Unconditional Love=? UTEOT=? Letter 2 My Unborn=?
realityIZanILLUSION 2 hours ago
ur whole list besides 5 singles is flawed,none of those others Exist.
unbornak47 1 month ago
Pacs AEOM
Feb 13 1996 to April 25 1996 = 5 million
April 26 1996 to Sep 19 1996 = 1 million
Sep 20 1996 to Dec 9 1996 = 1 million
Dec 10 1996 to Jun 16 1998= 1 million
June 17 1998 to Jun 18 1998= 1 million (thats 1 million in 2 days!!!!! almost 2 years after his death).
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
LMFAO u dont know how to count shit!!!! Let me explain to ur dumb ass. I'll use LAD as an example.
March 25 1997 to Aug 01 1997 LAD sold =6 Million.
Aug 2 1997 to Jan 7 1998 LAD sold = 1 million.
Jan 8 1998 to Nov 6 1998 LAD sold = 1 Million.
Nov 6 1998 to Dec 9 1999 LAD sold = 1 million.
Dec 10 1998 to Jan 6 2000 LAD sold = 1 million
Thats total 10 million at the last count on Jan 6 2000.
Ohh & nasty girl went Gold in just under 1 year...it has only sold 500k in total. Whats ur point?
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Yawn. my point is "nasty girl" Sold More Than "Pac's Life. pac's last lp isn't gold,meaning it couldn't even sell 500,000."nasty girl" sold 500,000,that's my Point. "big poppa" sold 500,000, a 10 Year Old Record,"pac's life" didn't.That's my Point. & here comes the deathblow,"duets" sold 1mil, while pac's life" sold 375,000-400,000. That's my Point. in 2006,b.i.g sold 2.5mil,while pac sold 375,000-400,000..Total in 2006.That's my Point.2.5mil> 400,000.LOL,fucking loser..lol
unbornak47 1 month ago
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Big = 17 mill sales from 4 albums
Pac = 26 million sales from 4 albums.
Singles;
Big = 6 million
Pac = 4.5 million (not including 27 singles) Hmmm...wonder how many more platinums???
Albums;
Big = 17 Million
Pac = 36.5 Million (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
Pac made Big END OF STORY!!!! Pac is a LEGEND, Pac has an untouchable LEGACY. Big hasnt even accomplished 1% of what Pac has accomplished.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
BABY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
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Big = 17 mill sales from 4 albums
Pac = 26 million sales from 4 albums.
Singles;
Big = 6 million
Pac = 4.5 million (not including 27 singles) Hmmm...wonder how many more platinums???
Albums;
Big = 17 Million
Pac = 36.5 Million (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
Pac made Big END OF STORY!!!! Pac is a LEGEND, Pac has an untouchable LEGACY. Big hasnt even accomplished 1% of what Pac has accomplished. lolololol Im done dude.
Stay in school....or go back to school....AND NEVA LEAVE
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
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Singles;
Big = 6 million
Pac = 4.5 million (not including 27 singles) Hmmm...wonder how many more platinums???
Albums;
Big = 17 Million
Pac = 36.5 Million (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
BABY BABY!!!!!!!!!! How many times does ur dumb ass need to see it?????
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
BABY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
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Singles;
Big = 6 million
Pac = 4.5 million (not including 27 singles) Hmmm...wonder how many more platinums???
Albums;
Big = 17 Million
Pac = 36.5 Million (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Since I know how ur no logic brain works. If u want to talk shit & say Big sold 17 Mill of 4 albums, then I can say Pac sold 26 mill off 4 albums.
Big = 17 mill sales from 4 albums
Pac = 26 million sales from 4 albums.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Singles;
Big = 6 million
Pac = 4.5 million (not including 27 singles) Hmmm...wonder how many more platinums???
Albums;
Big = 17 Million
Pac = 36.5 Million (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Incase u dont know...Read "Murder Rap" or watch the interview with Anton Batey & the detective.
Puff got Pac killed.
Suge got Big killed.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
ur homie said so himself..."ur nobody till somebody kills u". Big was a nobody till he got shot, and whatever he was before that was from the beef & drama with Pac. Pac made Big END OF STORY
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
the name of the record alone is a shot @ pac. wasn't that record released after pac died,& recorded while b.i.g was alive,dude ur a moron. pac was a nobody for years.like RIAA.com shows,it took "2pacalypse now" 4 years to sell 500,000,took pac's 2nd lp the Highly Controversial Titled "strictly 4 my niggaz" 1995 to go platinum,which was released Early 1995,but somehow that lp sold 1mil,once pac got locked.so in conclusion,pac wasn't a gold seller,he was a Barely Gold Seller..
unbornak47 1 month ago
w/ 4 years to sell 500,000. those are Pathetic Sales. lol @ "nasty girl", a single outselling an Entire LP,w/ a Gold Certification."big poppa" is how old? & went gold again in 2006,the same year "pac's life" dropped,so in conclusion b.i.g sold 1mil in singles 2005-2006,1.5mil w/ "duets",while pac sold LOL @ 400,000. b.i.g sold 25.5mil Total U.S Alone off 6-7 lp's,while pac got 5 100 minute long Double-Disc lp's getting double certifications.still LOL @ "pac's life" U.S Sales
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 gold again??? hell u talkin about????? Its not AGAIN u idiot...it just stayed gold when it was recertified, meaning it didnt sell jack shit. As time goes by they check & update the figures. The only figure that u should be looking at is the latest certification date U MORON!!!! The latest cert date shows how many sales have been made from the release date up to that point. Damn I really am talking to a fool. Stay in school homie!!!
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
here is it when it went Platinum 1995 (NOTORIOUS B.I.G. BIG POPPA/WARNING DECEMBER 30, 1994 MAY 23, 1995 BAD BOY/ARISTA STANDARD PLATINUM SINGLE SOLO) here it is Again re-released & Certified Gold 10 years after it's Original Release (NOTORIOUS B.I.G. BIG POPPA MARCH 08, 2005 DECEMBER 18, 2006 BAD BOY MASTERTONE GOLD SINGLE SOLO) according to RIAA.com here's another b.i.g single selling 500,000 in 2006 (NOTORIOUS B.I.G. NASTY GIRL OCTOBER 26, 2005 AUGUST 31, 2006 BAD BOY
unbornak47 1 month ago
(NOTORIOUS B.I.G. NASTY GIRL OCTOBER 26, 2005 AUGUST 31, 2006 BAD BOY MASTERTONE GOLD SINGLE SOLO). whta's wrong son,getting mad b/c pac haven't had a Gold Single since the mid 1990's. haha,LOL. it shows clear as day Certified in 2006,the same year "duets" sold 1mil (NOTORIOUS B.I.G. DUETS: THE FINAL CHAPTER DECEMBER 20, 2005 FEBRUARY 03, 2006 BAD BOY STANDARD PLATINUM ALBUM SOLO) platinum in 6 weeks. LOL. Quit Embarrassing pac's singles & lp numbers b/c RIAA cant find them.
unbornak47 1 month ago
...Since I know how ur no logic brain works. If u want to talk shit & say Big sold 17 Mill of 4 albums, then I can say Pac sold 26 mill off 4 albums.
Big = 17 mill sales from 4 albums
Pac = 26 million sales from 4 albums.
Those may even be more if RIAA has not included double certification which I dont think it has. If it did, AEOM would be almost 2 x Diamond & LAD would 2 x Diamond. So either way Pac shit on F.A.T by alot...or by even HELL OF ALOT depending if RIAA has not counted double
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
ohh shit
Duets=Platinum
Born Again=2xPlatinum
So...
Albums;
Big= 17 Million
Pac= 36.5 (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
Im not even sure that RIAA has calculated double certification coz Pac SOLD 5 million actual albums 1 month after release. RIAA shows 5xplat 1 month after release too so I dont think its included double...if it was is should say AEOM was Diamond in 1 month. if thats the case, double all of Pacs double albums & double Bigs double albums.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Singles;
Big = 6 million
Pac = 4.5 million (not including 27 singles) Hmmm...wonder how many more platinums???
Albums;
Big = 14 Million
Pac = 36.5 Million (not including Thuglife & Pacs Life)
Im done with ur no logic ass. Pac MURDERS big in sales. Makes him look like chump change. Look at the figures. Hands down not even close. Those are ONLY US too...internationally Pac will be hiting diamonds like a mine.
ONLY reason big made those sales anyway is coz of the beef & drama with Pac
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Thugz Mansion=?
Still Ballin=?
Runnin=?
1 day at a Time=?
Thugs Get Lonely=?
Ghetto Gosspel=?
Untouchable=?
Pacs Life=?
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
but yet search RIAA.com,& can't find Any of those singles. ur a funny nigga,all this shit ur typing is nowhere on the Actual Site. only thing that looks like chump change is "pac's life" that didn't go gold (500,000) vs "duets" that's 1mil sold,w/ a Gold Single,meaning not only does the lp selling 1mil makes pac's lp look bad,but then b.i.g has a single that Sold More. u Know Nothing about logic or common sense,b.i.g sold 10mil+ in singles,40mil+ off lp's,all coming from...
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Its ALL there bro. I got everything from RIAA.com. Anybody who reads this can easily look it up & see for themselves. The ONLY things not in RIAA.com are the 2 Tupac albums & 27 Singles. For Pac u got to search 3 different things (2 PAC, Makaveli, 2 PAC & THE OUTLAWZ). Everything I mention are there. just face the facts bro BIG IS CHUMP CHANGE hahahahahahahaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Yawn. i don't go by just random shit. i searched all those singles,& None of them are on RIAA.com searchable database. lil advice. just b/c dude released a lotta singles don't mean they sold,especially if they didn't even make it to the billboard hot 100 chart. LOL @ b.i.g selling 10mil+ off singles,& Proof "nasty girl" outselling an Entire pac's life" lp,which isn't a flop,but a Disaster.damn,375,000-400,000 U.S Sales. a damn shame,u already proved they didn't sell shit..
unbornak47 1 month ago
when u put = signs,instead of there Numbered Certification. i searched all those singles on RIAA.com,found neither 1 of them,didn't find pac's 15 other lp's on RIAA.com,or didn't find the lp Filled w/ Features "pac's life". pac's done,no more lp's are being released,the biopic's director ditched the film,to work on eminems boxing film. shows how much u cats try & compete w/ b.i.g,Known Fact,no1 was thinking of a pac biopic til "notorious" blew up.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Please stop talking coz ur making urself look stupid.Bro I know ur not this stupid,just stop diggin urself a hole.All the figures are there EXACTLY as I wrote them.Pacs Life isnt even there so we dont know the sales figures IDIOT.Changes is Pacs most famous single...& ur dumb ass thinks if its not in RIAA it didnt sell? Changes would have outsold all of Pacs other singles hands down. I wonder If heaven got a ghetto would have outsold all of Pacs other singles. Bro PLEASE stop talking
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Yawn,ur making pac look real Bad claiming all these numbers,but not showing. RIAA.com was ur proof,but then when u can't find everything u listed on RIAA,then RIAA.com is inaccurate? FOH dude,ur a walking contradiction. "pac's life" couldn't even sell the Lowest Certification which is Gold,500,000.looks like the last years of releases b.i. vs pac 2005-2006 b.i.g won,pac,1991 All Over Again.b.i.g had 2 500,000 Sold Singles,& a 1Mil Selling LP,pac didn't according to RIAA 2006
unbornak47 1 month ago
ur trusted pal RIAA.com.word of advice,Not All Double-Disc LP's gets Double Certifications,only the 2/2 lp's that has a time length of over 100 minutes. so know what u speak on,b/c all those lp's ran past 100 minutes,then got double certifications idiot. all those singles u listed w/ only = signs,but no numbers are proving those singles sold 0,"pac's life",got Out Sold by "nasty girl", a fucking single.pac's done. what's p w/ that long past "shakurspear" lp 2006-2008 due out
unbornak47 1 month ago
Juicy=Gold(500k)
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Biggie Biggie Biggie cant u see,
that ur career was just not meant to be....BABY BABY!!
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
quick question. how much pac's 1st 2 lp's sell? how many platinum singles dude has w/ 30 lp's? LOL.pac's life numbers are Embarassing.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Nah bro u got it twisted, the only thing embarassing is Bigs fat belly. Didnt u hear??? Big was a cross eyed down syndrome crack baby? He ONLY sold 2 million albums his whole career...THATS EMBARASSING. 80% of his fan base is NY. Pacs is 40% US 60% international...THATS EMBARASSING.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Bro where do u get ur figures from???
Singles;
Dear Mama - Platinum in 1995.Has not been updated yet.
Cali love/How u want it/ HitemUP -1996 2 x Plat in 2 months. Not updated yet.
Do 4 Luv - 1998 Gold less than 30 days. Not updated yet.
Keep ur head up- 1993 Gold in 2 months. Not updated yet.
I get around- 1993 Gold in 5 months. Not updated yet.
Use ur head bro.Look at those numbers AND the last time they were calculated.
They stopped counting the a few months after release
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
didn't u say hit em up,& changes is platinum. well i searched the shit outta RIAA.com,neither 1 of those singles are on RIAA searchable database. LOL, get the fuck outta here w/ those wikipedia numbers. u know what makes pac look really bad vs b.i.g? how warning,which is a Street Single Sell 1mil,it's on RIAA.com for Proof,while pac took years to sell.wheres changes & hit em up? nowhere to be found. b4 getting shot pac was a Average Gold Selling Rapper. Never seen a Platinum
unbornak47 1 month ago
Plaque til 1995,debuted 1991. RIAA.com has it clear as day,that dude didn't see a platinum single or platinum lp til 1995. so go on keep dodging. u talking hits,nigga pac was Never seeing b.i.g in the hits catalog,b.i.g got 9 Platinum Singles,while pac only has 3.pac got 30 lp's floating around worldwide,& sold 70mil+.b.i.g got 7 lp's & is @ 40+,that's Embarrassing pac alone @ how a fat,obese,cock-eyed nigga came in the game sold 6mil in 1 year,sold 25mil worldwide more in
unbornak47 1 month ago
death,compared to a cat that was around had lp's in stores as early as 1991.pac couldn't go platinum to save his life. the cats lucky to be part of death row,death row was already a Power House off dre & snoop's lp's alone. "ready to die 4x-5x,life after death, 10x-11x, born again 2x-3x, duets 1.5x,conspiracy 500,000+,no way out 7xplatinum. u do the math,pac wasn't competition. u have no clue on what ur speaking on,u don't work @ RIAA,so fuck outta here w/ ur calculations..
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Hit em Up is on the Bside to How Do U Want it....do u understand what that means???? its on the same disc u dumb fuck hahahahahaha 2x platinum in 2 months.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
uh lets see,which Actually sold."greatest hits 4.6-4.9mil,until the end of time 1.5mil,r u still down,2mil,better days 1mil. get those fake sales outta here dude. that's why pac has all those Double-Certifications,but no Double Sale. so all those double-disc lp's,minus "aeom" Actually sold half those Certifications.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 LAD double certified too idiot...its double album. See what I mean? u got zero logic. Listen bro, do urself a favor & go back to school. If ur in school then study harder & stop listening to rap & hip hop. I dont know how old u are but ur logic is like a 12 year old. If u are actually 12 then im just wasting my time talking to ur no logic ass.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Still I Rise= Platinum
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
& go on w/ how "aeom" sold so much in 8 weeks,but still haven't showed dude on not 1 page of the guiness book of world records for fastest selling album. ur a pac stan so of course ur gonna dimiss b.i.g's "only" 2mil sold debut,but that 2mil debut had b.i.g number 1 on all Billboard Charts far as rap,r&b,& pop as Top-Seller. when pac's lp finish as top-seller? that's right,never seen it off 5 lp's..a damn shame. in the end b.i.g's a Global Icon,& gets Equal Respect as pac.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Changes- Platinum.
Oh shit I just check AEOM. 5 x platinum in ONE MONTH, not 2 hahahahaha.
Everything Pac dropped hit minimum platinum....and thats ancient figures. They only calculated Pacs sales for a few months then stopped. The only thing that is updated is Greatest Hits 2011. Everything else is only a small fraction of what the REAL numbers are. lol Pacs sales make F.A.T look like bubblegum change
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Bro stop posting figures & asking for sales numbers coz ur figures u post are wack. 2ndly the ONLY argument u got is Pacs 1st 3 albums. THUGLIFE is not even registered in RIAA so there are NO certification data, so nobody knows how much that sold. Seeing that Pac is known as "the Thuglife guy" with a huge "Thuglife" tattooed across his stomach im sure it would be atleast platinum. Its marketing common sense.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 The only weak Pac albums was 2paclypse & the remixed Pacs Life....thats it. Everything else went minimum plat. U got no argument dude. U just keep going round in circles talking bullshit numbers & I keep putting the REAL numbers from RIAA. face it, Pac outsold Big in every way...I dont give a fuck about 2paclypse & Pacs life lol. His 1st album sucked coz 1stly he was supressed, 2ndly he was 19, 3rdly his style was immature. The more mature he got the better his music got.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Even though Pac raped Bigs FAT ass in sales...at the end of the day sales dont mean jack. Beiber, Soulja Boy, Lil Wayne, 50, etc...all sell more than Pac & Big & they SUCK. So sales dont mean shit. What matters is LEGACY.....something that Big dont got. Pacs LEGACY is untouchable. Pac reached a wider audience than Big did. Sorry bro face the facts Pac is a LEGEND, Big is......FAT!
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
all in all,when it's said & done,& when u pac stans are done guzzling pac,b.i.g gets as much respect,is a global icon in hip-hop,has his lyrics sampled more than any1,matter of fact look up jamie foxx's record "living better now" & hear who's famous line is the hook,search monica's "anything" record,which is a Remake of "who shot ya" w/ ross flowing the same as b.i.g,look up "everything to me remix" which all sampled b.i.g's lyrics. & those records was released 2010-2011..
unbornak47 1 month ago
gets ranked G.O.A.T As much as pac,sold 50% of pac's total sales w/ less than 50% of material as pac. why do ur sorry ass keep bringing up "hit em up"? 2 Facts why it's Irrelevant.
1."hit em up" is Not even on "aeom",so therefore it can't be a B-side single,if it's Not on the actual lp.
2.RIAA.com doesn't have "hit em up or changes",Nowhere on it's site. LOL @ the lies u make up for pac.quit swallowing pac,it's Not There.meaning it didn't sell shit like "pac's life"..LOL
unbornak47 1 month ago
U must be a 12 or 13 year old little kid, u dont understand a damn thing do u. Pac dissed F.A.T on his own beat. That the POINT u fool!!! Proves u dont know what u talking about. HitemUp was on the Bside of "How Do u Want it" it sold 2 MILLION IN 2 MONTHS. Dissin somebody on their own beat is gangsta...thats why 50 does it, Feminem does it & others do it. Th beat from hit em is "get money" & those lyrics from another. Shows how dumb u are bro....Pac killed Bigs career with his own beat hahahaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Yo bring back the 90s and let the east coast west coast war star. Respect Suge Knight, He was a feared man in the 90s, lots of people feared him. Peace
Flaco1941 1 month ago
Pac will be remembered as the GOAT for 100's of years. Big will be nothing, zero, nada, zip, zilch. To some people Pac is even a god bro. U have no clue how much more relevent Pac is than Big. 2 million in his whole career??? hahahahahahahahahaha bow wow sold more than that!!! hahahahahahahaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
pac's not remembered off 1 lp,now is he? the 4 year flop ran to death row to sell.b.i.g's the only MC that's getting ranked G.O.A.T w/ 2 lp's to his name in hip-hop..Period.don't pac got 30 lp's & his death to be ranked G.O.A.T vs a cat w/ 2 lp's.didn't b.i.g's 1st 2 lp sell 30mil worldwide,while pac's 1st 2 lp's barely sold 3mil worldwide.wasn't pac suckking N.Y dry,by naming himself N.Y,while b.i.g is the King of N.Y.wasn't b.i.g's only lp's Classic,pac's..Weed-plates..LOL
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 I just ralised Im talkin 2 a kid with no logic. Ur silly little brain keeps mentioning Pacs 1st few albums when I already told u he was being supressed. Do u understand what that means??? He was getting no air time, His records were being pulled of the shelves,his shows were being cancled,the vice president said his music should be banned,record companies did not want to work with him coz he was too political & controversal.I guess an immature ignorant brain just does not understand.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 I guess ur little brain just does not understand these things. After feminem destroyed L2TG people lost faith in the next album which was Pacs Life. Plus, use ur brain a little bit, it doesnt take a genius to know that the only people who buy Pac albums now are new fans. The OG fans already have his unreleased bootlegs. Pacs bootlegs were leaked in 97-98 & even though people were downloading them like crazy his records still sold like hot cakes. Imagine if there was no bootlegs...
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 ...if there were no bootlegs then Pacs sales will easily be double. If milllions of people had not downloaded all his unreleased work they would have bought the cd's....does that make sense to ur ignorant little brain? Even with the bootlegs his records sold. lol are u 12 years old? do u have any common sense? Like I said even I didnt buy Pacs Life....shit I havnt bought a Pac album since Makaveli....& im one of his biggest fans since 95.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Yawn. excuse,after excuse. so why did "2pacalypse now" barely sell 500,000? why did "pac's life" sell 400,000, while 'duets the final chapter" sold 1.2-1.5mil+ in the U.S,when both lp's came out the same time-frame. lol pac's a Flop,wasn't selling til he got locked up,that was pac's breakthrough,1991-1995 dude was seeing no platinum plaques @ All. hold ya breath for that "shakrspear" lp that supposed to had dropped 2007-2006,2012 still haven't dropped.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 If there were no bootlegs then everything from AEOM to Pacs Life would be diamond. Greatest hits is diamond & that album sucks...People dont buy albums these days dude coz everybody already downloaded all of Pacs work. Nobody wants bullshit remixes, we prefer the og's the way he made it. So talking about the sales of Pacs Life just shows how ignorant u are. Imagine how many Pac fans there are like me who have not bought an album since Makaveli....imagine what his sales would be...
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 if we didnt have the bootlegs or file sharing. lol All Pacs albums would be going Diamond. Another reason why Pacs earlier work didnt sell much is his style was old school. If u listen to 2paclypse, S4MN, TGLFE, MATW,AEOM,Makaveli u will see that his style is different in every single album. I didnt like his old school style. I only like MATW onwards. There are a handful of songs I like but i prefer his new style. Like the other dude said, Pac was adapting & changing. he perfected it
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 So ur arguments of Pacs life & Pacs earlier albums have NO relevence. Ohh & u keep mentioning singles bro, I have not once said nothing about a Pac single bu since u keep bringing up Bigs single then how about this...RTD went plat in 2 years..How do u want it/Cali love single went 2 x plat in 2 months.Pacs 1 single fucked Bigs whole album so please dont mention singles.The only Pac work that did not do so well is 2paclypse, Thuglife & Pacs life.Everything else went at least platinum
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
whatever dude.pac has 2 multi-platinum singles,& 1 platinum single. a total of 3 platinum singles.get that shit outta here."big poppa 1mil,1 more chance 1mil,warning 1mil,flava in ya ear remix 1mil,get money,1mil,hypnotize 1mil,mo money 1mil,been around the world 1mil,all about the benjamins 2mil. so that's 9 platinum singles,to pac's Dre Produced 2x singles. 3 platinum singles from pac,while 9 from b.i.g.it's obvious who could move units,& who couldn't & it damn sure wasn't
unbornak47 1 month ago
pac.how's those total 21 year "2pacalypse now" numbers looking compared to "ready to die"? oh,forgot,it haven't even sold 50% of "rtd" in 1991,1995,or today in 2012. how's "strictly 4 my niggaz" looking vs "life after death"? oh forgot,took 2 years to sell 1mil in the U.S,while b.i.g 2nd lp sold 10mil in 3 years in the U.S.face facts lil nigga,b.i.g seen it all,done it all off 2 lp's.his 1st lp is a Remembered Debut Classic LP.b.i.g got more platinum single."life after death
unbornak47 1 month ago
matches the status of pac's entire original & posthumous material seperately. go support ur boy "pac's flop",it's Embarrassing that lp been out almost 10 years,still haven't went gold.(NOTORIOUS B.I.G. BIG POPPA MARCH 08, 2005 DECEMBER 18, 2006 BAD BOY MASTERTONE GOLD SINGLE SOLO) even the single "big poppa" just got certified again."juicy" even sold more than "pac's life & 2pn"..Combined.pac's threw.those other 15 lp's sold 25,000-50,000...Globally.LOL
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Dude most of these sales figures from RIAA are old. They stopped certifying many of Pacs albums the very same year he released them. So obviously those figures would atleast 2 or 3 times more. AEOM was last counted in 1998 9xplat...lol 1998???? Pac was not as big back then as he is now. AEOM should be atleast 2 x diamond. If all his certification is updated then it will expose how little Big is compared to Pac. MATW last counted 2 x plat in 95. BDays counted 2xplat 2003.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 lol Cali love/How do u want was only cd that had Hit em Up as a B side.The next album to contain HitemUp was Greatest Hits in 1998.The single went 2xplat in 2 months in 96 then they stopped counting.So from 96 to 98 that 1 single would easily be 4,5 maybe 6 x plat.If in 2 months it got 2xplat & it contained the greatest diss track in history then what? u think it would just sit at 2 x plat?? Pacs figures are old & he still destroying Big.If it was updated it would be ZERO competition
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Then there are the international figures. Everybody around the world wants to be like Pac. Pac has more fans than Big does hands down. Sorry bro but Big is nothing compared to Pac. Big main support is locally in NY. Pac is international. Like I said, his legacy is huge. That says it all. Big got no legacy...he will be gone & forgotten while in 100 years people will be studying Pacs poetry, philosophy, lyrics, movies etc. Pac killed Big in every way. Sorry u cant except it.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
if any1 gonna be forgotten it's pac. ask any1 the name of b.i.g's 1st lp,they Know it. ask any1 the name of pac's 1st lp,that been out 21 years,they'd say "strictly 4 my nigga or 1 his death row releases. a damn shame how dudes ranked G.O.A.T,but no1 realizes his 1st lp made no noise,besides the sound it made when it flopped. b.i.g debut lp haven't even been out 20 years yet,& fans know the name of it,& what it did,& made b.i.g who he is.pac's 1st lp is named after him..
unbornak47 1 month ago
him. w/ his name as the title,& a classic film,& people still don't know the name of it. pac doesn't have much many more fans than b.i.g b/c while alive,b.i.g was more successful. whether it was 2mil,so what,now it's 4mil & sold then pac's 1st 3 lp's then & now.pac has more fans? dudes last lp haven't even sold 500,000 worldwide or U.S yet,while b.i.g's last lp is Platinum.it surpassed pac's flop",i mean life in 1 week.just like "ready to die" did vs "2pn & sfmn"...Combined.
unbornak47 1 month ago
sorry u can't except that b.i.g's 1st lp is a Classic.every1 knows the name. u nigga's bring pac's later work vs b.i.g's 1st lp,b/c u know it's an embarrassment.b.i.g's already solidified.been Diamond since 2011,biopic been out years,been grossed $65-$70mil,while pac's biopic is getting ditched for a boxing film starring eminem.go on keep comparing 1st lp vs 4th lp,by doing that,ur Proving how Pathetic pac's 1991-1995 resume was.not even 20 years yet,b.i.g's debut lp is in..
unbornak47 1 month ago
history. let me give Facts on a lotta MC's most respected lp's,that's there 1st lp's "amerikkka's most wanted,1x,straight outta compton,2x,chronic,4x,doggystyle,4x-5x,reasonable doubt,1x,slim shady lp,4x-5x,ill-matic,1x,36 chambers,1x,ob4cl,1x,tical,1x,eazy duz it,2x. there u have it,just released eazy-z,jay-z,cube,nas,raekwon,eminem,method man,snoop,dre,n.w.a,& b.i.g's debut/1st lp's as being there most Respected work,& sold 1mil in the U.S.wheres "2pacalypse".Not Classic.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47
Damn you really dont use logic to your arguments. I understand u have something against Pac which is really sad to see. U seem to know and recognise Biggie's talents but u cant understand Pac's. BTW u cant measure a classic album by its sales. 50 cent's debut album sold a shitload. More than Cuban Links and Illmatic. But it doesnt mean that 50 is a great rapper. What does it even matter if Tupac didnt do well Biggie in the mainstream market?
dowwwww5 1 month ago
b.i.g didn't use negativity like pac did,did he.for some reason u fools can't read the title of the video,instead u break ur back defending these clown pac & suge. that's why dre & snoop left,they made death row look bad & what pac do once dre left? started dissing him. diss the cat who produced ur 1st #1 hit on billboard hot 100 chart. i could care less about dudes later work,u fools rank him the G.O.A.T,w/ a trash 1st lp,then when u can't compare 1st vs 1st,it's 1st vs 4th. FOH dude
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47
Im not protecting Suge at all. Im only replying to u bcoz u talk nonsense and I should stop bcoz u have no respect for the culture. A lot of MCs have indeed used negativity in their music. Its becoz its part of life and especially within the societies they grew up in. BIG capitalised on a Mafioso image just as Nas, Jay, Rae and a whole bunch of rappers have. But they dont live that life. It doesnt even matter what an artist's first LP is like as long as the music keeps getting better
dowwwww5 1 month ago
tht's not logic @ all as u try & make it seem.it's not even common sense. a damn shame u got other respected MC's east/west/south who dropped classics off there 1st lp's,but the so-called G.O.A.T took 3 lp's to drop a classic. far as 50's concerned,no he's not a better MC than nas or rae..but he's a Better Businessman than nas,pac,& rae in 1.50 & pac are both average far as lyrical ability.but a Facts show,the rap-game is a Business.pac didn't realize that did he?
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47 Oh u still talking???? Sorry bro I didnt read a damn word. I forgot who we were talking about...Pac &.....uh???.....who was the other dude???? Dont know, some fat dude I guess. All I got to say is....Pacs single went 2 x Platinum in 2 months, His album went 5 x platinum in 2 months. And who was that fat dude??? what was his name??? Notorious F.A.T or something??? His whole career he sold jack shit. Sorry bro im done with ur no logic ignorant thinking. BABY BABY!!!!
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
b.i.g has 9 platinum singles,all dude need is 1 more platinum single,then his singles wiould match the status of "life after death" 1xplatinum. how was pac on his 4th ,no 5th lp,& only have 3 platinum singles.how much dudes 1st & 2nd lp sell again? 3mil worldwide. how much "pac's flop" sell 400,000,while "duets" been platinum for 7 years.ur opinion means Nothing,b/c RIAA.com got b.i.g selling 6mil in 1995,months after he debuted.what page is "aeom" on the book of world..
unbornak47 1 month ago
records. keep choking on pac's nut hair. ur not a fan,ur a stan.simple as that.too bad pac relied on drama/controversy to sell.was in the rap-game 4 years,Never seen a platinum lp/single plaque til he got shot,& sentenced to jail. keep on dismissing "2flopalypse now & strictly 4 my niggaz",b/c they didn't sell or wasn't classics,compared to b.i.g's 1st & 2nd 14mil lp's. when ur gonna post pac's "aeom" page from the guiness book of world records? that's right,Can't find them.
unbornak47 1 month ago
@unbornak47
Like Nas said there is no "best". U should respect that and u shouldnt disrespect him based on nonsense about record sales or his first LP. Good music is universal and ur missing out buddy. Pac isnt lyrical? Haha. Ignorance is bliss. Theres many aspects to MCing. Pac is mentioned as one of the greatest by many artists including Nas, Jay, Face and Em. The mentality of this culture being simply a business is one of the reasons this music is dying. Shame on u
dowwwww5 1 month ago
& Barely Gold.LOL.when ur 2nd lp sells 10mil in the U.S,that's nowhere near "local".only MC to have they're 2nd lp go Diamond (10mil sold in the U.S) is eminem.legacy been made since 1995,when b.i.g brought east-coast back to relevance.while pac had 3 lp's,Flat Broke in the booty-house,& suge is @ source awards hating b/c death row was on it's last legs.2 lp's in G.O.A.T Discussions..nuff said on b.i.g's behalf.1st & 2nd lp's 30mil worldwide.support pac's flop,still 400,000
unbornak47 1 month ago
@realityIZanILLUSION
Hey bud. I know u respect Pac a lot but Biggie will also be remembered as long as hip hop stays alive. There is no universal 'best' or 'greatest'. Pac as an overall artist might be regarded as the greatest the hip-hop culture has ever seen but in terms of lyricism ppl will have their own favourite. But that shit dude (unbornak47?) is talking about is ridiculous. Haha. Pce
dowwwww5 1 month ago
As soon as the media reports that Puff ordered Pac & Suge's murder lets see how long he lives. U are aware that Puff ordered the hit right? U are aware that Pac is dead coz of Puffy? Pac was killing Badboys money...puff was losing money. He was being extorted (obviously paying interest on his loans to BMF), Pac was killing the company's rep too. Puff ordered the hit on Suge & Pac coz he was scared of going broke. Pac was a "Badboy Killa" lol. They killed him coz they couldnt handle the pressure
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Pac put his mark in the world & created history. Big put his mark in the world too....by falling on his BIG FAT ass & breaking the concrete. hahahahahahaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Who the fuck was Big compared to Pac??? Big was just a local rapper. Pac on a level that Big could not even dream of ever seeing.Big didnt even know that such a level even existed hahahahahahaha.Like I said bro,Big was nowhere near Pac musically,physically,ethically, morally,lyrically,popularily,intelligently,tallently or spiritualy.Im done with u.u one of those who dont want 2 accept that Big was a nobody till he died.lol Even his dumb fat ass said it himself..."ur nobody till somebody kills u"
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Bigs LAD would have sold less than R2D. Big lost many fans due to Pac. Pac exposed him as the bitch he is, lol playing King of NY lol. Big was just a puppet for BMF. Pac attacked BMF's cashflow lol He exposed Puffy for the bitch he is getting robbed by HJ.Puffy slit his wrists coz he couldnt handle the pressure Pac was putting on him.2 million in his whole career???? hahahahahaha 5 million 2 months.We can keep going round in circles dude but its not going to change the fact that Big was a nobody
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
If Pac & Big didnt die, Pac "may" have gone to jail. There is not enough proof. U can only see half his body & its not enough evidence to say it was him who threw the punch. Watch the vegas fight video & u will see that any good lawyer would have got Pac out of it easy. But lets please u & say he went to jail. He would have still sold records, he would have released even more music & movies. New Pac songs?? Damn that would be hot. he would have completed the DR east who would hav killed Badboy
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
In 100 years people will know who Pac is....nobody will remember Big. There are courses & lectures on Pac lol. He is part of history now. He is a big part of black history. Pac is a legend. Pac is most probably the reason why the US even has a black president. Pac is the reason why police brutality is less now than in the 90's. Pac is the reason why so many blacks are now on mainstream. He opened doors that werent open. After he died every movie company & music company wanted the next 2pac
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Eminem, 50 Cent, Ja Rule clearly wanted to have the same status. love, respect & success as Pac. They even made remakes of his songs, Pain, Hail Mary, HitemUp. They made remixes with him lol. Every rapper wants to be Pac & many gangbangers even want to be Pac even though Pac was no G. Pac was an actor, poet, activist, politician, prophet, writer, panther,philanthrophist.Pac changed the world.He is the MAIN reason why the world even knows who the illuminati is (regardless if they are real or not)
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Heres a bit from Pacs wiki. Listen to what people say about him. Shakur is held in high esteem by other MCs – in the book How to Rap, Bishop Lamont notes that Shakur “mastered every element, every aspect” of rapping & Fredro Starr of Onyx says Shakur, "was a master of the flow.", "Every rapper who grew up in the Nineties owes something to Tupac," wrote 50 Cent. "He didn't sound like anyone who came before him." About.com for their part named Shakur the most influential rapper ever hahahaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Dont u know that there are million of 2pac alive theorists who think that Pac himself is going to show lol those die hard fans alone will break records. hahahaha People have been waiting for this since before that gay ass Notorious. Pac has been immortalised in a Statue, Universities offer different classes on his life, poetry & music. In 2002 he was the 10th highest earning DEAD celeb at $15million, there are countless documentaries on him. Pac influenced & made a huge impact on the earth
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
word of advice,that $15mil was pac's unpaid royalties he never received when interscope was fucking him outta those "me against the world" royalties.how pac gotta 2x lp in stores,but sitting in jail waiting for b.i.g & diddy to bail him out.same goes for those "all eyez on me" royalties worth $15mil.1 teacher thats a pac fan studies him,@ 1 school,pac's mother Paid for those statues w/ his Unpaid Royalties. far as musics concerned,name another MC thaat sold 2mil in 9 months
unbornak47 1 month ago
& gets labeled G.O.A.T.it's 4mil sold now.now add "2pn,s4mn,& thug life,matw" ,pac had to drop 4 lp's to sell 4mil,& all those certifications came 1995-1996,when the lp's dropped 1991-1995,& got the nerve to clown a lp that's half from going diamond,& sold excess 6mil w/ the singles.how's pac's life numbers looking after 6 years? 400,000.LOL,not even Gold,while duets is well past 1mil in the U.S.matter of fact,how much those other 15 pac lp's sell 25,000-50,000 worldwide.LOL
unbornak47 1 month ago
Reason why those directors back out is coz there is way too much pressure to perform. If they fuck up then they going to have millions & millions of mad Pac fans. Their careers will be over. They too scared to take on the project. Plus, its not easy to find a character to play Pac. Notorious was easy, just get any fat dude to play the role. If u think the demand is not there then u are 1 dumb mothafuka. The 2pac biopic will break records.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Scarface can have a political party dude...anybody can pay someone to run. Thats what Pac was going to do. He was going to have somebody run & tell his fans, snoop fans, MC Hammer fans that "hey that dude represents us, vote for him". He would have taken over. Even while in jail hed be runing the party. Grow some brains. Pac didnt need Suge anymore he was probably leavin DR anyway. The 2pac biopic is going to be big & whoever takes the project will be making a smart business move.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
hahahaha The vice President knew who 2pac was bro, the FBI knew who Pac was since birth, the Panthers know who Pac was, the Public knew who Pac was. He made Juice & Poetic Justice. He was famous even without music hahahaha. Like I said if Pac started with Badboy or DR he would have killed it. Do u honestly think people want to hear the same old commercial bullshit? or do they want to hear someone speaking up for their rights & freedom? lol The whole world is behind Pac...Big was just local
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
2 million albums in his whole career??? hahahahahahahahaha Me against the world did double that, AEOM did 5 mill in 2 months. Argument over. I dont even remember who we talkin bout now...Pac & some fat dude hahahahahahaha
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago