every tier 1 unit can assume any role at any time on a given notice. that being said, sts focus mainly on mission's that being given to them by jsoc and they train extensively for the mission at hand. They are the best of the best in the air force and the air force have some of the toughest mother fuckers in the arm forces..cheers
What exactly does the 24th special tactics squadron do? I've read their a Tier One unit but there not on the list on the USSOCOM or AFSOCOM official site. Are they CCTs? PJs?
no matter who it is seals have the hardest training in the world not the sas the sas training is long but if you sit aroung playing games for year because it's longer than seals dosn't make you better
@Sargeras77 well their maybe some super secret group of in India that no one knows about that is the most bad ass the ones you never hear about are the ones you should fear.
@fierwall5 Friends, This is proof Osama was killed a long time ago. The Jesuit Illuminati Globalist only decided to stage this false-flag death for their own nefarious purposes in order to bring the whole world in subjection to the Papacy. The Jesuits have been in the 2nd phase of this global preparation for the final inquisition since October 2009. It all started after the conclusion of the Vatican 2 Council in 1965. The ecumenical movement was part of this plan.
not really.... former seals have washed out of PJ indoc
SEALS just get the most publicity. Its kinda like comparing apples to oranges in "who has the hardest training" each carear field's training is tailerd to their mission profile.
my cousin was in the army desite what people might say i have the upmost respect for our soldiers they do things they might not agree with but they get the job done
every special operator is trained the exact same way... they just have different mission roles... but all can kill, all can fight, its just their specialties are different. SEALs are experts in water, Deltas are experts in counter terrorism, CCT's are experts in close air support, RecMarines are experts in recon, Berets are experts in geurilla warfare. dumbasses
honestly, if you haven't been in every spec ops, do a shitload of reading before you argue which is best. and when you do you'll understand that ST6, Delta and 24thSTS are all separate parts of the same puzzle. They're all just as badass as the next.
it's different objectives, you can't really compare em. which is why each branch gets to throw their best into JSOC, not 1 all encompassing team
ps.s. if you're hoping to be in AFSOC...the PAST test blows, and you may have to retake it (trust me)
My brother is in the Air Force, 612th Global Mobility Squadron. My cousin in the US Army, 2nd Infantry Division, my father is in the US Air Force, Biochemical weapons expert, my grand father was in WW2, Korea, Vietnam, 65th Infantry, US Army. My other cousin US Air Force, 12th Tactical Fighter Squadron. Me, i'm going to be in the US Army, 11 Bravo Infantry, 75th Ranger Regiment.
You know what's funny is the fact that you idiots don't know what you are talking about by comparing different special operations teams. CCT's clear airfields and call in air support. PJ's go behiind enemy lines to get downed pilots. Does that mean they are better than SEAL's at what they do? NO! SEAL's specialize in direct action and special reconnaissance. CCT's and PJ's will NEVER be better than SEAL's at these missions. None of you guys can even make it through their pipleline...
@motoxdood I don't know where you've been getting your information, but I bet it's from the same place as everyone else. ONLINE. As for me, I've actually been to BUD/s and I can tell you right now that the washout rate is the same as. How do I know this??? Talking to the instructors there. You guys still want to compare special operators, then you should graduate a pipeline and actually SERVE with these guys, other than surfing the net and comparing them to what you know through outdated info
@wushugungfu Alright first just take a second to chill. haha i respect all of them, theyre all bad ass. And as for what i was saying ,over the whole two years of training for para-rescue the wash out rate is higher then those of the training to become a SEAL. Don't be calling me out i am going to serve in the military, give me a break. and trust me i dont sit on my ass all day and argue. haha just saying, so take it easy man. Just throwing out some facts.
@motoxdood LOL, its funny you guys are fighting on whos better or what not. I have seen all three special forces units. I was in the navy and saw marine recon do practices out in the sea. Just be glad they are on our side!!!!
SAS was once one of the leading special force units in the world as it was the first one. Nevevertheless, I think the US units such as the Air Force Special Ops- Special Tactics Squadron is on a similar level.
seriously SF is SF no matter what branch. All SF training is HARD and all SF are BAD*SS. Different branch's SF are all catered to different jobs. SEAL's to amphibious assault, PJ's to downed pilots and so on. No reason to fight amongst ourselves.
you all are so dumb and dont know what your talking about. if you were in the military you would know that PJ's are the top elite. 20 yrs USAF ive been there and i know
@roryshane02 No you don't. Military experts around the world have said Seal training is the toughest... Coming from a Marine, I'm in a higher position to talk. Oh, and don't call me 'dumb', I got a 33 on my ACT, so if you want to disrespect the elite then you need to get checked into a pool of leaches.
@ssDaNss And I'm guessing these "experts" has never been enlisted into the military? Like the experts you see on the Military Channel? Oh yeah, I got a 44, what's the big deal?
idk why it is such a big deal between branches. i have respect for all. my oldest brother was army my 2nd oldest bro is active marines and other bro is active navy. i look at it as a job and experience so there is no reason to fight we are all on the same side :)
@TEGFR I know you are right i have respect for all branches cuz my cousin is an active recon marine, my dads a retired air force, and im about to go in the air force.
@mistergrin Yes it does, they post bulletins recruit for (A.C.E formerly CAG and 1st SFOD-D) and Delta is ranked the highest special forces unit in the US military, then DEVRU, then the 24th.
omg ppl your missing the point ,its not about looking good no one cares about the units pride at war they fallow comands and evry unit has a diffrent gole . thats why ppl want to go for exsmple to unit "X" and not unit "Y".
A very good highlight from a recruitment film that has inspired hundreds, if not thousands. If some of you folks even knew what what on, not reported, you would sleep better tonight.
I do agree to bring all troops home from the Mid East, let he x-box combat nerds take out each and every target, use C-5s and poison the entire farmland. And cut off all aid to those that do not comply with US interests, whatever they may be.
Weird... a SOF video filled with idiotic comments from high schoolers and other jackasses comparing AFSOC to SEALs or Army SF. You guys are ridiculous. Seriously. Get your head out of your ass and get your ass out of your mom's basement.
If all the SOF groups did the same thing, we wouldn't have as many as we do. There would just be one group. But since they all do different things, YOU CAN'T COMPARE THEM. Apples and oranges.
Ye you guys got the right idea. SEALS specialize in naval warfare and underwater demolition, basically Navy type stuff. These guys are the branch of the airforce that needs to be a top notch rescue team for pilots, because aircraft and helos do (although rarely) have to set down or get taken down.. if you don't get to the survivors asap with a special force than they'll be dead, as usually they don't land anywhere close to friendlies, usually in enemy territory.
I think the Air Force made SF because they saw that the Army and Navy made Green Berets and SEALs. They are just attached to ODA and SEAL teams like CCT. Respect for these guys, but any SEAL team, or SF/D/A could do the job they do.
@USMartyrMachine119 Incorrect. Pararescue has been part of AF since 1947. They were not publically discussed until several years ago by design. They are the only SF unit specifically tasked with saving lives instead of other tactical objectives. They operate independently as well as tasked with other SF units depending on mission criteria.
CCT is not better than SEALs or vise versa. Anyone who says one is better is just big dick for that branch. Fact of the matter is SEALs go threw one of the worlds toughest trainings this has been provin. CCT must also go threw a similar training cause everything a SEAL does the CCT guy must perform right at his level since the CCT guy is right there with the SEALs. Same thing with Army SF the CCT guy must be able to perform as good as the SF guys. All Units r great at what they do.
@bronco590 first off, keep in mind most PJs are in RQS, and generally only the more experienced ones get into an STS. STS is largely CCT, with a sprinkling of PJs and SOWT, if you will. RQS does personel recovery, its their bread and butter. they pick up downed pilots, lost service members, and special ops in bad situations like firefights. STS integrates with SEALs, SF, Rangers, and MARSOC. again, its mainly for the capabilities CCTs bring, but PJs are there for their trauma and SERE expertise.
@bronco590 a bit confusing, and I still don't truly understand why PJs are in STS, but they are not to be confused as medics. reading None Braver, a book about PJs in Afghanistan, will help clear up alot of confusion though.
everyone thinks SEALs are the best but they really don't think about the other spec ops divisions.for example pararescue has the highest drop out rate because of their insane training...
@MonsterMotoxx Yup, and depending on what kind of things you wanna do in the military you better score high on it. Like if you wanted to be a Marine Scout Sniper, you need to get at least a 100. Now that doesn't you get all questions right, they grading is weird google it bro
These guys are good stuff yes dont compare them to SEAL cause its not fair SEAL were designed to be the hardest guys for a REASON. Air force does a lot of damn good things to help our spec ops.
Na, SERE's are strictly teachers, if they do go into combat it would mean things went way south and all hecks broke lose, otherwise there more valuable inside the wire so to speak.
so...can officers become AF specops and/or pararescuers? If so, I would like to do this. I originally wanted to be in AFOSI but I saw this and now im in awe.
the special forces within the air force consist of combat controllers, pararescuemen, and combat weathermen. STS's (special tactics squadron's) have these guys in them. As for officer i don't know about combat controllers or weathermen but i do know that CRO's (Combat Rescue Officers) are the officers of pararescuemen. If you are serious about this stuff you should go to specialtactics(dot com) and you will find what you need there. Hope that helped.
@MrDevildog666 Buddy. All you got to do is talk with an Air Force Recruiter. I'm going for AF PJs this May after completing the ASVAB, AF Basic Training (AFBT), and all I got to do is my PAST (Physical Assesment Test). I'll warn you now. You must be so physically fit that you are up to any physical challenge. And you must swim damn good. Along with having NO fear of heights WHATSOEVER. Then your good.
when in may? i leave the 4th- im going cct, and just to add on to what ur saying (which is totally correct) you also have to be totally motivatted no matter what happens, because training and indoc WILL hurt, no matter how in shape u are
@Paymon5 you have to want it badly enough. people who try out for special military school are all in good shape and determine. schools job is to break you down to the point where it comes down to your determination level. so if you are trying out for ranger, pj, or any other special military school. you better really want it.
@Paymon5 . About having NO fear of heights whatsoever; I know a PJ who made it through and is terrified of heights. My other friend who made it through the Indoc selection course, had no previous swimming experience. They were both in insanely good shape though, dont get me wrong. If you want it bad enough, you can over come fears just like they did. SOURCE: enlisted USAF comptroller, PJ hopeful
PJs won the 2009 SOCCOM competition thingy for Direct Action. over Seals and such whos focus is largely on DA. i got this info from a MARSOC Marine. they won for logistics and support.
hey dude,, whats ur fuckin life,,, if u had any balls u would say who the hell u are,,, or just realize what the hell these dudes who "dont have a life" do for ur dumbass everyday. show some fucking respect u piece of shit
STS guys have have several roles among them pararescue and combat air control and flyin..they are usually attached to a SEAL team, Army SF squad, DELTA, or DEVGRU detachment...notable too is the fact that all parts of SOCOM work together for alot of missions..eg. SEALS will infil a village while Rangers provide security..AF STS is only a part of the Special Operations Community..great group of guys that im proud to say my dad was part of..
Actually its "ACC" (Air Combat Control) which is a major AF command. What you are meaning to say is CCT (Combat Controller), which is an AF Spec Ops job. Our Spec Ops jobs (AFSC) are CCT, TAC-P, PJ, and Combat Weather.
No, an ABM is a flyer on aircraft such as AWACS. He/she sits in front of a monitor and helps direct supportive fighters into hostile areas. CCT (not ACC) is someone who jumps out of aircraft such as C130 or CV22, into hostile territory and directs close air support when needed.
Its similar in the sense that they both direct CAS missions. The biggest difference is that the CCT is on the ground in the fight. He then calls the group of ABMs in the local AOR (area of responsibility), who then calls directs the nearest weapons equipped fighter that can support the mission without breaking crew duty day and other issues flyers deal with. Once on scene the CCT cuts ties with the ABM and is in contact with the fighter aircraft's.
cause that's all they know. they played SOCOM and watched a movie or nat geo and think SEAL's are the toughest guys in the world without knowing the intentions of a SEAL's training or how they are intended to be used.
@iKieeeX It's very hard to know who is the best spec. forces in the world. Many country's SF-units is secret so u can't really say that the SAS is the best. Because u can't tell if the ones that are secret is better or less better.
dont navy seals travel in a group of four?, i seen on a tv show about the navy seals and the guns they use and there kill/death ratio, and im not talking about call of duty, they get 200/1 in a battle
SEALs can go from a assult team of 18 all he way down to a 2 man team all depends on the mission. All Spec Ops have a high kill/Death ratio. All our Spec Ops are very good. But yea SEALs have a high kill ratio look at marcuss latrell and his team, from the book Lone Survivor(A true Story) His 4 man sniper team took on close to 150-200 taliban and killed close to 100 of the taliban soldiers. United States Spec Ops r just good like that.
Also in Somalia in '93 est. 2000 kill/ 19 dead. enemy soldiers est. 3000 vs. 160joint force of Rangers, Delta, DEVGRU, and PJs. First class ass woopin hooah!
Their training and numbers are the reason for this. Imagine if you had the best weapons and training what you could do. On top of that, imaging only 4 guys against a large group of enemy soldiers. Its alot easier to shoot a shotgun into a cloud of birds, but for one of the birds to take a shit on u, its alot harder.
When I tell People Im Joining the Air Force there allways like oh well at least you wont be in combat and be killed......Im allways Like uhmm Wrong..There are these thinngs Called Battle Field AirMen .....there Airmen in combat roles just as hard core and eite like the SEALS and Marines and Army ......these guys really dont get enough credit
@cemcguire you do realize that AF PJ's come in to pull SEALs out when the shit hits the fan we are all here helping each other everyone can go to the same tech schools and they graduate which means they are all Bad asses not to mention PJ's and SEALs train with each other all the time
And he'd also be right to say the only reason anyone (including you) knows who the SEALs are, is because they took down Osama bin Laden and received massive media attention they didn't even want.
JSOC, SOCOM, MAGTF, doesn't matter, all elite. We all have a job, simple as that. People trying to make certain sub-components of the Armed Forces sound better, will probably never be in the Armed Forces.
Its about what YOU want to do. Not how you want to look.
@hotjonmw90 Not only this, SEAL Commander AND Delta commander have both said Special Operations Warfare would NOT be possible without Combat Control/Pararescue.
@cemcguire ahaha lol do you even know what you're talking about lol seals are pretty tough sure, but PJ's lol need i sum up the training they have, because in total it's about 2 years long...and in plus of that they are trained in every type of warfare plus are qualified EMT-P, also the are the only guys who have the balls to go get someone out when its extremely dangerous or maybe even considered suicide...who are we trying to make look good now ?
@imbarisaxy loool yeah way true :) ^^ i love it how everyone bashes the " chairforce " even though they have some of the best trained and maybe THE best operators in all of DoD lol
@FreeRideAddikt Seal training is a total of 30 months. Seals are also trained in "every type of warfare" and take basic emt training however their mission is more on the side of d.a raids, hostage rescues, deep recon, etc so of course pj's are better in the area of keeping someone alive because that is a pj's mission. Seals have been called to rescue people behind enemy lines however so both groups are very flexible. Im not here to argue but have your facts straight before you try to
@Teamdowork1 yeah but then again we are comparing apples to oranges... anyway you are right i checked my info a while ago and yes i do have my facts straight don't worry just missed out one detail lol thx though for the info
An officer can be part of the AF Special Operations. There are three AF Special Ops Officers: Special Tactics Officers, Combat Rescue Officers, and Special Operations Weatherman Offices (not sure if it is still open). Can do it from the USAFA, ROTC, OTS, and active duty officer career switch (must get released from current AFPC manager). If you go the Air Force Special Operations website and look under recruiting there is more information - with application and training requirements.
Uumm. I'm going to say this. I'm not special ops or anything but my pops was a special ops load master and those guys haul around the people you're all talking about. I think you guys forget (many do) that there is a CIA group called SAD. Look them up. They recruit from DELTA and DEVGRU. And then there is the group that doesn't exist Grey Fox....these guys are the elite of the elite. Don't anyone know much about'em. Hell even if you wiki or google'em, there still ain't much..
I guess what I'm really trying to say is...every spec ops group is good at something....ask the green berets, DELTA, SEALs, and DEVGRU who they want calling in airstrikes and almost all of'em will say, "CCT or TACP". All I'm saying is there ain't no one better spec ops team in the world. That's why they're special...they specialize in something....HOOYAH AIR FORCE!!!!
Look, everyone is good but in a different way. SEALs go through rigorous training, probably the toughest in the world. That doesn't mean they are the most elite in the world, if thats what word we are using. They are very qualified at 'what they do.' So are the USMC and SAS, and the Air Force Special Ops.
btw, the most elite elite unit out there is new zealand SAS, look them up, they are an immediate response team made up of professional spec ops soldiers who dedicate their lives to serivce and to the new zeland SAS, they are on call 24/7 no rest.
Their service goes before all, and i bet you, ask anyone that they are the best. Second to none, and nothing but the best.
Sure bud, but "elite" dont count for shit if you dont go on real world missions. Rescuing Brit SAS doing real missions doesnt make you better. Immediate response dont mean shit either. US Rangers, JSOC, 82nd Airborne Div. and Marine MEUs are all immediate responce also. Now a days the SpecOps standards are becoming standardized. Same weapons and tactics, similar doctrine and employment. The unit dont mean shit. The individual is elite. A squad of 101st soldiers could beat SAS if better motvated.
hate to burst you bubble but if delta force is an 'ultra-elite anit-terrorism' force then why are they not in Iraq?... or are they? we've send a few SAS guys in to clear up the mess every now and then....
Delta has a global mission. They have only about 200 shooters. the most that could be sent to Iraq at once must be about 50. Do you see how they might need help? And if the SAS came and cleared our mess for us, then SHIT!!! WE CAN ALL GO HOME NOW!!!!! ABOUT TIME YAY!!! THANK YOU SAS!
well i'd like to think that too, but unfortanatally our leaders are not exactly smart. their just selfish and abuse their power. which is why we're staying till the deed is done.
on every military spec ops video i watch, there is always a debate on which is best. heres an answer for you. You don't know, you aren't a part of any of them, you have no idea what happens just the summary the service branch says on its website. So please stfu and just honor what these brave men are doing for our country and don't worry bout whose tougher or more badass. Because you aren't one and will probably never be.
@p00ned131, SEALs are used for FID all the time. As for CT, i'll admit Delta has an edge on that, but only due to the fact that that is ALL delta does. if by DA you mean direct attack, that is only because of their numbers. One thousand SEALs vs one thousand marines, i can tell you without even meeting the men who's gunna win that one
Yea, but they arent the best. SF are definitley the masters of it. How do you know what that unit does? Are you a part of them? If not I'd keep my mouth shut on shit that I dont have a first hand knowledge of. Have fun with your airsoft buddies this weekend.
Also if it was 1000v1000 head on in a battlefield, I'd bet on the marines simply because theyre trained for battlefield fights whereas SEALs are trained for small unit tactics. I can tell you without even meeting the man youre retarded.
Well it requires some effort to actually be accepted. You have to complete the PAST test and a Class III Flight Physical. But the real test is the actual training. Are you joining the Air Force soon?
ppd8472 is exactly right. There is a wealth of information out there, and you'll be able to find out the physical standards and what not. Stew Smith's books are a great resource for getting in Special Ops shape. Most of his books focus on Navy SEALs, but he does have a book devoted entirely to PJ/CCT.
Remember, the only thing that can stop you is yourself.
OK all of the Special Operation Units are BADASS!! No one out of the military can compare them, why? Because they dont publicly announce their missions. They all have a unique part in the military. I personally am considereding which branch to choose for special forces. I have not joined the military and am not comparing the Best of the Best
oh yeah and anyone bad mouthing the air force just remember that air force Pararescue training is the toughest training in the whole military. i mean harder than any SEALS or green beret training. more people have died in pararescue training than any other special forces training.
I have a friend that went through the first 8 weeks of indoc before pulling a hernia, and he said the water training was heavier than SEALs. As for the training overall...not so much. Remember, PJ/CCT have Hell Night, while SEALs have Hell Week. Also Green Beret's friggin starve your ass.
Without knowing much about them though, Im very curious to the new Marine Special Ops. Those guys have to be sick.
acually it goes rangers, green berets, TACP,seals, forest recon, combat control and delta from worst to best from a casualty prospective but each has different missions and joint opps
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they are probly the most effective army based special operations. i will grant you that. but the nazvy seals are better. the seals spend up to three years of training. the training is designed to refine the skills of those soldiers. hell week you do not get much food and or sleep during those seven days so overall the seals are better. all other spec ops. groups see water as an obstacle. seals see it as another enviroment to breeze right through. thats just my opion. i dont doubt the delta force
At woking with USAF equipment and aircraft to rescue personnel and equipment? Definitely! Tell them to HALO into Algeria and find where they are hiding nuclear materials using the latest satelite recon imagery, or to ship out to the Phillipines and train and recruit locals to hunt and kill a terrorist cell leader believed to be attacking the US embasy from the their jungle base, and then maybe PJ's will have a tough time.
there is no way that YOU could say who the best is. have you ever been a part of any of them? this entire paragraph is totally devoid of facts. in hell week, BUD/S trainees receive plenty of food and water. they are fed about 5 or so times a day to make sure they can recover from the beat down that they are receiving. also, the seals spend a long time training, but so does everyone else.
From what I have read, Delta Force recruits are drawn mainly from the Special Forces, Rangers, and 82nd Airborne, however, they can come from anywhere in the army.
exactly, that you know of. Your ignorance is showing. WTF do you mean by elite? Who are they competing against? They have a specific job that hardly anyone else has/wants/could stand. If thats the case then I know some Elite ass garbage men! Every saturday without fail!
I want to join the air force.
ImClaytoniThink 1 month ago
every tier 1 unit can assume any role at any time on a given notice. that being said, sts focus mainly on mission's that being given to them by jsoc and they train extensively for the mission at hand. They are the best of the best in the air force and the air force have some of the toughest mother fuckers in the arm forces..cheers
stolly27 3 months ago
What other Special Ops careers are there in the USAF besides Pararescue and Combat Control?
coolyo366 3 months ago
@coolyo366 Special Operations Weather Team, and possible soon to be TACP.
TheScarswell1 2 months ago
What exactly does the 24th special tactics squadron do? I've read their a Tier One unit but there not on the list on the USSOCOM or AFSOCOM official site. Are they CCTs? PJs?
TheDevenrocks 3 months ago
@TheDevenrocks Just like delta isn't on the official list of USASOC or USSOCOM? I think you know the answer now.
TheSammyreynolds 3 weeks ago
no matter who it is seals have the hardest training in the world not the sas the sas training is long but if you sit aroung playing games for year because it's longer than seals dosn't make you better
Sargeras77 5 months ago
@Sargeras77 well their maybe some super secret group of in India that no one knows about that is the most bad ass the ones you never hear about are the ones you should fear.
fierwall5 4 months ago
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@fierwall5 Friends, This is proof Osama was killed a long time ago. The Jesuit Illuminati Globalist only decided to stage this false-flag death for their own nefarious purposes in order to bring the whole world in subjection to the Papacy. The Jesuits have been in the 2nd phase of this global preparation for the final inquisition since October 2009. It all started after the conclusion of the Vatican 2 Council in 1965. The ecumenical movement was part of this plan.
bornbythesea 4 months ago
@Sargeras77
not really.... former seals have washed out of PJ indoc
SEALS just get the most publicity. Its kinda like comparing apples to oranges in "who has the hardest training" each carear field's training is tailerd to their mission profile.
faust51k 3 months ago
hey how do you download a video from like airforce.com or dvids.com
and hooyah cct
divecommando 5 months ago
my cousin was in the army desite what people might say i have the upmost respect for our soldiers they do things they might not agree with but they get the job done
ThePoonraker 6 months ago
every special operator is trained the exact same way... they just have different mission roles... but all can kill, all can fight, its just their specialties are different. SEALs are experts in water, Deltas are experts in counter terrorism, CCT's are experts in close air support, RecMarines are experts in recon, Berets are experts in geurilla warfare. dumbasses
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piratephil2 6 months ago
honestly, if you haven't been in every spec ops, do a shitload of reading before you argue which is best. and when you do you'll understand that ST6, Delta and 24thSTS are all separate parts of the same puzzle. They're all just as badass as the next.
it's different objectives, you can't really compare em. which is why each branch gets to throw their best into JSOC, not 1 all encompassing team
ps.s. if you're hoping to be in AFSOC...the PAST test blows, and you may have to retake it (trust me)
Nocon6 6 months ago
What's going on at 0:34.....kind of looks like a flood.
beansemo 8 months ago
Thumbs up your dick is bigger than my inside-out vagina.
ToadsMGodes 8 months ago
Pararescue and Combat Control is some crazy shit.
ImOnOne2 9 months ago 3
these guys (24th Special Tactics Squadron), are tier one operaters with delta and DEVGRU (seal team 6, not your average seal!) right?
Eirik36 9 months ago
As a current CONE (almost done), ya'll that argue on who is "the best" are fucking retards.
ign1te9 9 months ago
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LoLBlTCH 9 months ago
You know what's funny is the fact that you idiots don't know what you are talking about by comparing different special operations teams. CCT's clear airfields and call in air support. PJ's go behiind enemy lines to get downed pilots. Does that mean they are better than SEAL's at what they do? NO! SEAL's specialize in direct action and special reconnaissance. CCT's and PJ's will NEVER be better than SEAL's at these missions. None of you guys can even make it through their pipleline...
wushugungfu 9 months ago
@wushugungfu Pararescue has a much greater wash out rate than SEALs
motoxdood 9 months ago
@motoxdood I don't know where you've been getting your information, but I bet it's from the same place as everyone else. ONLINE. As for me, I've actually been to BUD/s and I can tell you right now that the washout rate is the same as. How do I know this??? Talking to the instructors there. You guys still want to compare special operators, then you should graduate a pipeline and actually SERVE with these guys, other than surfing the net and comparing them to what you know through outdated info
wushugungfu 9 months ago
@wushugungfu Alright first just take a second to chill. haha i respect all of them, theyre all bad ass. And as for what i was saying ,over the whole two years of training for para-rescue the wash out rate is higher then those of the training to become a SEAL. Don't be calling me out i am going to serve in the military, give me a break. and trust me i dont sit on my ass all day and argue. haha just saying, so take it easy man. Just throwing out some facts.
motoxdood 9 months ago
@motoxdood LOL, its funny you guys are fighting on whos better or what not. I have seen all three special forces units. I was in the navy and saw marine recon do practices out in the sea. Just be glad they are on our side!!!!
runhorun 9 months ago
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Good Vid...... also watch my new complete 3 parts vid on the multicam Eagle Industries ciras land.....thx for watching ...Sniper.V From Quebec.
richardvinc 10 months ago
SAS was once one of the leading special force units in the world as it was the first one. Nevevertheless, I think the US units such as the Air Force Special Ops- Special Tactics Squadron is on a similar level.
Moonbasebrothers 1 year ago
seriously SF is SF no matter what branch. All SF training is HARD and all SF are BAD*SS. Different branch's SF are all catered to different jobs. SEAL's to amphibious assault, PJ's to downed pilots and so on. No reason to fight amongst ourselves.
pearsonnathan69 1 year ago
Why are comments about these beautiful videos always littered with pointless discussions about who has the longest d$ck?
Different corps, different missions but same bravery and honor.
Anyone who serve,,you deserve respect.
hassaine 1 year ago 39
@hassaine I was in the navy and thinking to join the airforce as an officer.
runhorun 9 months ago
@hassaine my dick is bigger then yours cunt >: O
jiminycricket555 8 months ago
@hassaine
because competition is what makes them better
but yes some people do get carried away
RayWilliamJohansen 6 months ago
you all are so dumb and dont know what your talking about. if you were in the military you would know that PJ's are the top elite. 20 yrs USAF ive been there and i know
roryshane02 1 year ago
@roryshane02 No you don't. Military experts around the world have said Seal training is the toughest... Coming from a Marine, I'm in a higher position to talk. Oh, and don't call me 'dumb', I got a 33 on my ACT, so if you want to disrespect the elite then you need to get checked into a pool of leaches.
ssDaNss 1 year ago
@ssDaNss And I'm guessing these "experts" has never been enlisted into the military? Like the experts you see on the Military Channel? Oh yeah, I got a 44, what's the big deal?
mistergrin 8 months ago
isnt USAF PJ the same thing as special ops? prove me wrong if it is :D lol
snipingace34 1 year ago
SEALS isnt the highest drop rate. af Para does
EricCris10sen 1 year ago
its the same fucking argument on every god damn page, everyone just STFU... go to the pararescue website.
BBKWrithe 1 year ago
idk why it is such a big deal between branches. i have respect for all. my oldest brother was army my 2nd oldest bro is active marines and other bro is active navy. i look at it as a job and experience so there is no reason to fight we are all on the same side :)
TEGFR 1 year ago
@TEGFR I know you are right i have respect for all branches cuz my cousin is an active recon marine, my dads a retired air force, and im about to go in the air force.
gmodzeez 1 year ago
CCT is where its at!
puckhog00 1 year ago
These guys can call in more heat than anyone-pure devastation
howardb42006 1 year ago
these guy are nothing delta where it's at
UNKNOWN90087 1 year ago
@UNKNOWN90087 How can you say,"delta where it's at" while the United States Army does not even confirm its existence?
mistergrin 8 months ago
@mistergrin Yes it does, they post bulletins recruit for (A.C.E formerly CAG and 1st SFOD-D) and Delta is ranked the highest special forces unit in the US military, then DEVRU, then the 24th.
USAForLife2057 6 months ago
i know these guys arent anything delta the shit
UNKNOWN90087 1 year ago
omg ppl your missing the point ,its not about looking good no one cares about the units pride at war they fallow comands and evry unit has a diffrent gole . thats why ppl want to go for exsmple to unit "X" and not unit "Y".
8LocKDowN8 1 year ago
@8LocKDowN8 Learn to spell.
larlar752000 1 year ago
@larlar752000 Fuck off , here how is this spelling for you, im dislective you dick wad
8LocKDowN8 1 year ago
A very good highlight from a recruitment film that has inspired hundreds, if not thousands. If some of you folks even knew what what on, not reported, you would sleep better tonight.
I do agree to bring all troops home from the Mid East, let he x-box combat nerds take out each and every target, use C-5s and poison the entire farmland. And cut off all aid to those that do not comply with US interests, whatever they may be.
Joseph F
USAF, 06, Ret.
B52sguy 1 year ago
Solid Video
INYAFACE003 1 year ago
Weird... a SOF video filled with idiotic comments from high schoolers and other jackasses comparing AFSOC to SEALs or Army SF. You guys are ridiculous. Seriously. Get your head out of your ass and get your ass out of your mom's basement.
If all the SOF groups did the same thing, we wouldn't have as many as we do. There would just be one group. But since they all do different things, YOU CAN'T COMPARE THEM. Apples and oranges.
bluescarlet11 1 year ago 6
@bluescarlet11 Common, not all highschooler's think that way
ExcellenceUSAF 1 year ago
Ye you guys got the right idea. SEALS specialize in naval warfare and underwater demolition, basically Navy type stuff. These guys are the branch of the airforce that needs to be a top notch rescue team for pilots, because aircraft and helos do (although rarely) have to set down or get taken down.. if you don't get to the survivors asap with a special force than they'll be dead, as usually they don't land anywhere close to friendlies, usually in enemy territory.
BlackOps78321 1 year ago 3
incredible
writefromwithin 1 year ago
I think the Air Force made SF because they saw that the Army and Navy made Green Berets and SEALs. They are just attached to ODA and SEAL teams like CCT. Respect for these guys, but any SEAL team, or SF/D/A could do the job they do.
USMartyrMachine119 1 year ago
@USMartyrMachine119 Incorrect. Pararescue has been part of AF since 1947. They were not publically discussed until several years ago by design. They are the only SF unit specifically tasked with saving lives instead of other tactical objectives. They operate independently as well as tasked with other SF units depending on mission criteria.
shtnstr 1 year ago
@USMartyrMachine119
SEALs are not trained paramedics. Wow... You look stupid now.
drothefuture 1 year ago
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CCT is not better than SEALs or vise versa. Anyone who says one is better is just big dick for that branch. Fact of the matter is SEALs go threw one of the worlds toughest trainings this has been provin. CCT must also go threw a similar training cause everything a SEAL does the CCT guy must perform right at his level since the CCT guy is right there with the SEALs. Same thing with Army SF the CCT guy must be able to perform as good as the SF guys. All Units r great at what they do.
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ragenhurt 1 year ago
Whats the difference btwn STS (Special Tactics Squadron) and RQS (Rescue Squadron) for PJs???
bronco590 1 year ago
@bronco590 first off, keep in mind most PJs are in RQS, and generally only the more experienced ones get into an STS. STS is largely CCT, with a sprinkling of PJs and SOWT, if you will. RQS does personel recovery, its their bread and butter. they pick up downed pilots, lost service members, and special ops in bad situations like firefights. STS integrates with SEALs, SF, Rangers, and MARSOC. again, its mainly for the capabilities CCTs bring, but PJs are there for their trauma and SERE expertise.
marleynrs8 1 year ago
@bronco590 a bit confusing, and I still don't truly understand why PJs are in STS, but they are not to be confused as medics. reading None Braver, a book about PJs in Afghanistan, will help clear up alot of confusion though.
marleynrs8 1 year ago
amaerican spec ops are shit!! SAS will always be the greatest!
trekagerrecc 1 year ago
the air force pj is better than a seal they do everything plus more
zack7891 1 year ago
everyone thinks SEALs are the best but they really don't think about the other spec ops divisions.for example pararescue has the highest drop out rate because of their insane training...
Disturbedfan29 1 year ago
pararescue has the highiest drop out rate....
texasdu 1 year ago
i really want to do this and i was wonerin, does the ASAVB ttest for ALL military branches specialties or just the army.
MonsterMotoxx 1 year ago
@MonsterMotoxx Yup, and depending on what kind of things you wanna do in the military you better score high on it. Like if you wanted to be a Marine Scout Sniper, you need to get at least a 100. Now that doesn't you get all questions right, they grading is weird google it bro
FliesinMyDreds 1 year ago
These guys are good stuff yes dont compare them to SEAL cause its not fair SEAL were designed to be the hardest guys for a REASON. Air force does a lot of damn good things to help our spec ops.
applecri5p 1 year ago
not too mention everyone does their part, some more than others
BracedPoleCat 1 year ago
Gotta love the Air Force. I wonder if they put SERE's along with them?
AFriendlyFilipino 1 year ago
Na, SERE's are strictly teachers, if they do go into combat it would mean things went way south and all hecks broke lose, otherwise there more valuable inside the wire so to speak.
wolfzz5 1 year ago
so...can officers become AF specops and/or pararescuers? If so, I would like to do this. I originally wanted to be in AFOSI but I saw this and now im in awe.
MrDevildog666 1 year ago
the special forces within the air force consist of combat controllers, pararescuemen, and combat weathermen. STS's (special tactics squadron's) have these guys in them. As for officer i don't know about combat controllers or weathermen but i do know that CRO's (Combat Rescue Officers) are the officers of pararescuemen. If you are serious about this stuff you should go to specialtactics(dot com) and you will find what you need there. Hope that helped.
ownage1894 1 year ago
@MrDevildog666 Buddy. All you got to do is talk with an Air Force Recruiter. I'm going for AF PJs this May after completing the ASVAB, AF Basic Training (AFBT), and all I got to do is my PAST (Physical Assesment Test). I'll warn you now. You must be so physically fit that you are up to any physical challenge. And you must swim damn good. Along with having NO fear of heights WHATSOEVER. Then your good.
Paymon5 1 year ago
@Paymon5
when in may? i leave the 4th- im going cct, and just to add on to what ur saying (which is totally correct) you also have to be totally motivatted no matter what happens, because training and indoc WILL hurt, no matter how in shape u are
faust51k 1 year ago
@Paymon5 you have to want it badly enough. people who try out for special military school are all in good shape and determine. schools job is to break you down to the point where it comes down to your determination level. so if you are trying out for ranger, pj, or any other special military school. you better really want it.
liqshot808 1 year ago
@Paymon5 . About having NO fear of heights whatsoever; I know a PJ who made it through and is terrified of heights. My other friend who made it through the Indoc selection course, had no previous swimming experience. They were both in insanely good shape though, dont get me wrong. If you want it bad enough, you can over come fears just like they did. SOURCE: enlisted USAF comptroller, PJ hopeful
tjosaastaylor 1 year ago
god, i can't wait. im trying to be a pj. it is going to be the shit.!
Nardin6 2 years ago
me too
GENERALZAPATA 2 years ago
PJs won the 2009 SOCCOM competition thingy for Direct Action. over Seals and such whos focus is largely on DA. i got this info from a MARSOC Marine. they won for logistics and support.
marleynrs8 2 years ago
all of u get a life!
ab81wyy 2 years ago
hey dude,, whats ur fuckin life,,, if u had any balls u would say who the hell u are,,, or just realize what the hell these dudes who "dont have a life" do for ur dumbass everyday. show some fucking respect u piece of shit
jedz4u 2 years ago
ha ha if you care that much who i am to write all that back then u dnt have a life.
ab81wyy 2 years ago
@ab81wyy ur right , i have no life, just figure it out,,, people shouldnt talk shit about the military
jedz4u 2 years ago 2
sure wouldn't want to piss off a guy who has a B 52 on speed dial haha
Drumster18 2 years ago
STS guys have have several roles among them pararescue and combat air control and flyin..they are usually attached to a SEAL team, Army SF squad, DELTA, or DEVGRU detachment...notable too is the fact that all parts of SOCOM work together for alot of missions..eg. SEALS will infil a village while Rangers provide security..AF STS is only a part of the Special Operations Community..great group of guys that im proud to say my dad was part of..
Drumster18 2 years ago
@Drumster18
Actually its "ACC" (Air Combat Control) which is a major AF command. What you are meaning to say is CCT (Combat Controller), which is an AF Spec Ops job. Our Spec Ops jobs (AFSC) are CCT, TAC-P, PJ, and Combat Weather.
BuckeyePride85 2 years ago
is an ABM similar to a ACC?
maglight117 2 years ago
@maglight117
No, an ABM is a flyer on aircraft such as AWACS. He/she sits in front of a monitor and helps direct supportive fighters into hostile areas. CCT (not ACC) is someone who jumps out of aircraft such as C130 or CV22, into hostile territory and directs close air support when needed.
BuckeyePride85 2 years ago
oh i read on the site that a ABM is an air battle manger i though it would be similar
maglight117 2 years ago
@maglight117
Its similar in the sense that they both direct CAS missions. The biggest difference is that the CCT is on the ground in the fight. He then calls the group of ABMs in the local AOR (area of responsibility), who then calls directs the nearest weapons equipped fighter that can support the mission without breaking crew duty day and other issues flyers deal with. Once on scene the CCT cuts ties with the ABM and is in contact with the fighter aircraft's.
BuckeyePride85 2 years ago
thanks for clearing this up
maglight117 2 years ago
Why does every CCT or Special forces video have someone talking about SEALs?
Hop6236 2 years ago
Because everyone knows of the SEALs training and teams. Not everyone knows of what the AF does. In many ways its the same.
USDoD14 2 years ago
cause that's all they know. they played SOCOM and watched a movie or nat geo and think SEAL's are the toughest guys in the world without knowing the intentions of a SEAL's training or how they are intended to be used.
skyski80 2 years ago 26
@skyski80 sorry but im not going against any country or force they all do us proud! but SAS(Secret air service) are the very best.
iKieeeX 1 year ago
@iKieeeX I think you mean Special Air Service
1985chewy 11 months ago
@iKieeeX It's very hard to know who is the best spec. forces in the world. Many country's SF-units is secret so u can't really say that the SAS is the best. Because u can't tell if the ones that are secret is better or less better.
fanofmetallica94 11 months ago
dont navy seals travel in a group of four?, i seen on a tv show about the navy seals and the guns they use and there kill/death ratio, and im not talking about call of duty, they get 200/1 in a battle
Tylerunderfire 2 years ago
SEALs can go from a assult team of 18 all he way down to a 2 man team all depends on the mission. All Spec Ops have a high kill/Death ratio. All our Spec Ops are very good. But yea SEALs have a high kill ratio look at marcuss latrell and his team, from the book Lone Survivor(A true Story) His 4 man sniper team took on close to 150-200 taliban and killed close to 100 of the taliban soldiers. United States Spec Ops r just good like that.
ragenhurt 2 years ago
Also in Somalia in '93 est. 2000 kill/ 19 dead. enemy soldiers est. 3000 vs. 160joint force of Rangers, Delta, DEVGRU, and PJs. First class ass woopin hooah!
skyski80 2 years ago
Their was also CCT and MAIKO guys involved in that as well.
ragenhurt 2 years ago
Marcuss wasn a true american and served us all well
mustardhomie 1 year ago
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ragenhurt 2 years ago
What does this have to do with the Navy Seals, let alone the Navy?
AirsoftJunkie 2 years ago 2
I'm pretty sure the STS have a higher kill/death ratio. They command heavier firepower.
xfistsclenchedx 2 years ago
Their training and numbers are the reason for this. Imagine if you had the best weapons and training what you could do. On top of that, imaging only 4 guys against a large group of enemy soldiers. Its alot easier to shoot a shotgun into a cloud of birds, but for one of the birds to take a shit on u, its alot harder.
USDoD14 2 years ago
Grey Fox, AKA USAISA.
BravoKiloMike 2 years ago
Hahaha here is a good one. "Pararescue. Because even SEALs, Green Berets, and Recon Marines need to call 911."
whtfire98 2 years ago 2
When I tell People Im Joining the Air Force there allways like oh well at least you wont be in combat and be killed......Im allways Like uhmm Wrong..There are these thinngs Called Battle Field AirMen .....there Airmen in combat roles just as hard core and eite like the SEALS and Marines and Army ......these guys really dont get enough credit
landser914 2 years ago 3
your quite right....they don't.....but please dont try and compare these guys to SEALs ...we're trying to make them look GOOd...remember?
cemcguire 2 years ago 8
Haha
landser914 2 years ago
@cemcguire you do realize that AF PJ's come in to pull SEALs out when the shit hits the fan we are all here helping each other everyone can go to the same tech schools and they graduate which means they are all Bad asses not to mention PJ's and SEALs train with each other all the time
hotjonmw90 1 year ago 7
@hotjonmw90 He right. the 24th STS, Delta squad, and SEAL team 6 (the guys who took down bin laden) of all part of JSOC
never4ever179 6 months ago
@never4ever179
And he'd also be right to say the only reason anyone (including you) knows who the SEALs are, is because they took down Osama bin Laden and received massive media attention they didn't even want.
JSOC, SOCOM, MAGTF, doesn't matter, all elite. We all have a job, simple as that. People trying to make certain sub-components of the Armed Forces sound better, will probably never be in the Armed Forces.
Its about what YOU want to do. Not how you want to look.
jarid3001 6 months ago
@hotjonmw90 dont the CCT train with them too
hordem16 5 months ago
@hotjonmw90 Not only this, SEAL Commander AND Delta commander have both said Special Operations Warfare would NOT be possible without Combat Control/Pararescue.
jarid3001 3 months ago
@cemcguire
Yea that seal better be ready to say sorry then thanks when hes stuck somewhere in a field and the pj's need to save him
wheniwantwhereiwant 1 year ago
@cemcguire What do you know?
sgtcojonez 1 year ago
@cemcguire ahaha lol do you even know what you're talking about lol seals are pretty tough sure, but PJ's lol need i sum up the training they have, because in total it's about 2 years long...and in plus of that they are trained in every type of warfare plus are qualified EMT-P, also the are the only guys who have the balls to go get someone out when its extremely dangerous or maybe even considered suicide...who are we trying to make look good now ?
FreeRideAddikt 1 year ago
@FreeRideAddikt i think he means dont try to compare these guys to seals because pj's kick their asses
imbarisaxy 1 year ago
@imbarisaxy loool yeah way true :) ^^ i love it how everyone bashes the " chairforce " even though they have some of the best trained and maybe THE best operators in all of DoD lol
FreeRideAddikt 1 year ago
@FreeRideAddikt Seal training is a total of 30 months. Seals are also trained in "every type of warfare" and take basic emt training however their mission is more on the side of d.a raids, hostage rescues, deep recon, etc so of course pj's are better in the area of keeping someone alive because that is a pj's mission. Seals have been called to rescue people behind enemy lines however so both groups are very flexible. Im not here to argue but have your facts straight before you try to
Teamdowork1 6 months ago
@Teamdowork1 yeah but then again we are comparing apples to oranges... anyway you are right i checked my info a while ago and yes i do have my facts straight don't worry just missed out one detail lol thx though for the info
FreeRideAddikt 6 months ago
An officer can be part of the AF Special Operations. There are three AF Special Ops Officers: Special Tactics Officers, Combat Rescue Officers, and Special Operations Weatherman Offices (not sure if it is still open). Can do it from the USAFA, ROTC, OTS, and active duty officer career switch (must get released from current AFPC manager). If you go the Air Force Special Operations website and look under recruiting there is more information - with application and training requirements.
Nate70 2 years ago
um just wondering, can you be in the airforce spec ops as a officer?
NorthHuffman 2 years ago
from what airforce members have told me enlisted does pararescue and officers do combat control(same training tho)
tc38555 2 years ago
duh...
chilaxin09 2 years ago
something like a CRO, thats it though
jraessearj 2 years ago
that is if your thinking about PJ's tc38555 is right about most officers being CCT
jraessearj 2 years ago
Did you say grey fox dude lay of the metal gear solid they dont exsist becase they dont grow the fuck up do some research or somting
Mannyjbf 2 years ago
Uumm. I'm going to say this. I'm not special ops or anything but my pops was a special ops load master and those guys haul around the people you're all talking about. I think you guys forget (many do) that there is a CIA group called SAD. Look them up. They recruit from DELTA and DEVGRU. And then there is the group that doesn't exist Grey Fox....these guys are the elite of the elite. Don't anyone know much about'em. Hell even if you wiki or google'em, there still ain't much..
jcg1984 2 years ago
I guess what I'm really trying to say is...every spec ops group is good at something....ask the green berets, DELTA, SEALs, and DEVGRU who they want calling in airstrikes and almost all of'em will say, "CCT or TACP". All I'm saying is there ain't no one better spec ops team in the world. That's why they're special...they specialize in something....HOOYAH AIR FORCE!!!!
jcg1984 2 years ago
Look, everyone is good but in a different way. SEALs go through rigorous training, probably the toughest in the world. That doesn't mean they are the most elite in the world, if thats what word we are using. They are very qualified at 'what they do.' So are the USMC and SAS, and the Air Force Special Ops.
hgood27 2 years ago
The video is awsome. But the song is a piece of shit. Sorry
bamafan434 2 years ago 2
btw, the most elite elite unit out there is new zealand SAS, look them up, they are an immediate response team made up of professional spec ops soldiers who dedicate their lives to serivce and to the new zeland SAS, they are on call 24/7 no rest.
Their service goes before all, and i bet you, ask anyone that they are the best. Second to none, and nothing but the best.
gta43089 2 years ago
Sure bud, but "elite" dont count for shit if you dont go on real world missions. Rescuing Brit SAS doing real missions doesnt make you better. Immediate response dont mean shit either. US Rangers, JSOC, 82nd Airborne Div. and Marine MEUs are all immediate responce also. Now a days the SpecOps standards are becoming standardized. Same weapons and tactics, similar doctrine and employment. The unit dont mean shit. The individual is elite. A squad of 101st soldiers could beat SAS if better motvated.
MonstersSeeMeToo 2 years ago
hate to burst you bubble but if delta force is an 'ultra-elite anit-terrorism' force then why are they not in Iraq?... or are they? we've send a few SAS guys in to clear up the mess every now and then....
skedtm 2 years ago
Delta Force has played a major role in Iraq. For instance, they helped track and ultimately find al-Zarqawi.
cblev07 2 years ago
Delta has a global mission. They have only about 200 shooters. the most that could be sent to Iraq at once must be about 50. Do you see how they might need help? And if the SAS came and cleared our mess for us, then SHIT!!! WE CAN ALL GO HOME NOW!!!!! ABOUT TIME YAY!!! THANK YOU SAS!
MonstersSeeMeToo 2 years ago
well i'd like to think that too, but unfortanatally our leaders are not exactly smart. their just selfish and abuse their power. which is why we're staying till the deed is done.
skedtm 2 years ago
Hahahahaha! Well said
Attackgoat2 1 year ago
on every military spec ops video i watch, there is always a debate on which is best. heres an answer for you. You don't know, you aren't a part of any of them, you have no idea what happens just the summary the service branch says on its website. So please stfu and just honor what these brave men are doing for our country and don't worry bout whose tougher or more badass. Because you aren't one and will probably never be.
p00ned131 2 years ago 9
on the contrary, SEALs are best. and I WILL be one. thank you
cemcguire 2 years ago
best at VBSS and maritime missions. Not so much with FID, CT, DA. Ignorant
p00ned131 2 years ago
@p00ned131, SEALs are used for FID all the time. As for CT, i'll admit Delta has an edge on that, but only due to the fact that that is ALL delta does. if by DA you mean direct attack, that is only because of their numbers. One thousand SEALs vs one thousand marines, i can tell you without even meeting the men who's gunna win that one
cemcguire 2 years ago
Yea, but they arent the best. SF are definitley the masters of it. How do you know what that unit does? Are you a part of them? If not I'd keep my mouth shut on shit that I dont have a first hand knowledge of. Have fun with your airsoft buddies this weekend.
Also if it was 1000v1000 head on in a battlefield, I'd bet on the marines simply because theyre trained for battlefield fights whereas SEALs are trained for small unit tactics. I can tell you without even meeting the man youre retarded.
p00ned131 2 years ago
not with that attitude.
Demo9237 2 years ago
pj's are for the fact they are the people the SEALs call when there in trouble and cct's work with SEALs
tank9142 2 years ago
p00ned, kudos on your reply. it was spot on. thanks
colors1387 1 year ago
how hard is it to be accepted to be a combat control associate
redwingsboy94 2 years ago
Well it requires some effort to actually be accepted. You have to complete the PAST test and a Class III Flight Physical. But the real test is the actual training. Are you joining the Air Force soon?
ppd8472 2 years ago
when i graduate college
redwingsboy94 2 years ago
ppd8472 is exactly right. There is a wealth of information out there, and you'll be able to find out the physical standards and what not. Stew Smith's books are a great resource for getting in Special Ops shape. Most of his books focus on Navy SEALs, but he does have a book devoted entirely to PJ/CCT.
Remember, the only thing that can stop you is yourself.
xlledx 2 years ago
OK all of the Special Operation Units are BADASS!! No one out of the military can compare them, why? Because they dont publicly announce their missions. They all have a unique part in the military. I personally am considereding which branch to choose for special forces. I have not joined the military and am not comparing the Best of the Best
R04DRUNN3R2 2 years ago
oh yeah and anyone bad mouthing the air force just remember that air force Pararescue training is the toughest training in the whole military. i mean harder than any SEALS or green beret training. more people have died in pararescue training than any other special forces training.
treecake9 2 years ago 3
I have a friend that went through the first 8 weeks of indoc before pulling a hernia, and he said the water training was heavier than SEALs. As for the training overall...not so much. Remember, PJ/CCT have Hell Night, while SEALs have Hell Week. Also Green Beret's friggin starve your ass.
Without knowing much about them though, Im very curious to the new Marine Special Ops. Those guys have to be sick.
xlledx 2 years ago
wow did you wright FOREST RECON, ha it's FORCE RECON. there basically the marine version of Army Rangers
treecake9 2 years ago
acually it goes rangers, green berets, TACP,seals, forest recon, combat control and delta from worst to best from a casualty prospective but each has different missions and joint opps
killuquick99 2 years ago
i think that it goes. army rangers,delta force, green berets, these guys and then finaly u.s. navy seals. from worst to last.
MCD361 2 years ago
MCD361- Delta Force are an ultra-elite anti-terrorism force drawn from Green Berets. They are probably the most elite unit that I know of.
xlledx 2 years ago
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they are probly the most effective army based special operations. i will grant you that. but the nazvy seals are better. the seals spend up to three years of training. the training is designed to refine the skills of those soldiers. hell week you do not get much food and or sleep during those seven days so overall the seals are better. all other spec ops. groups see water as an obstacle. seals see it as another enviroment to breeze right through. thats just my opion. i dont doubt the delta force
MCD361 2 years ago
Air Force PJ's are the highest trained and most badass in the military.
100PercentOJ 2 years ago 5
At woking with USAF equipment and aircraft to rescue personnel and equipment? Definitely! Tell them to HALO into Algeria and find where they are hiding nuclear materials using the latest satelite recon imagery, or to ship out to the Phillipines and train and recruit locals to hunt and kill a terrorist cell leader believed to be attacking the US embasy from the their jungle base, and then maybe PJ's will have a tough time.
MonstersSeeMeToo 2 years ago
there is no way that YOU could say who the best is. have you ever been a part of any of them? this entire paragraph is totally devoid of facts. in hell week, BUD/S trainees receive plenty of food and water. they are fed about 5 or so times a day to make sure they can recover from the beat down that they are receiving. also, the seals spend a long time training, but so does everyone else.
cblev07 2 years ago
No thats Bud\S in general. Hell Week has food deprivation and sleep.
MonstersSeeMeToo 2 years ago
Wrong. BUD/S has only sleep deprivation, not food. They eat a lot of food to help avoid injuries and such from being overworked.
cblev07 2 years ago
Excuse me, i mean Hell Week has sleep deprivation, not food. At no point do they starve the trainees like in Ranger School
cblev07 2 years ago
From what I have read, Delta Force recruits are drawn mainly from the Special Forces, Rangers, and 82nd Airborne, however, they can come from anywhere in the army.
cblev07 2 years ago
exactly, that you know of. Your ignorance is showing. WTF do you mean by elite? Who are they competing against? They have a specific job that hardly anyone else has/wants/could stand. If thats the case then I know some Elite ass garbage men! Every saturday without fail!
MonstersSeeMeToo 2 years ago
then u dont know much.
colors1387 1 year ago