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  • @Vierzbanator It seems as though religion is dying out in Australia and Europe but America feels as though they need to preserve it for some reason. Don't worry religion won't rule the USA forever but it might not happen in your lifetime. In the mean time stay strong and isolate yourself from people with religious views and talk to atheists even if it's only through the Internet. You don't want to be a follower of anybody! even an atheist. what's important is forming your own opinions.

  • @Vierzbanator I feel ya here in Australia I go to a catholic high school but if you ask the majority of teens how they feel about god most think it's bs. Problem is that when people refer to America they refer to it as gods country " One nation under god" " god bless America" etc thefor atheists can be seen as unpatriotic.

  • God deserves to die.

  • (from the United States of America) HELP US, OUR NATION IS FALLING APART! Religon has taken over everything! Everyone has seemed to have forgotten the first admendment! Religon has taken over! First the schools, then the hospitals, then the government itself!

    I cant tell you how much of our tax dollars are put into the brainwashing facilities also known as churches.

    Help America eroupean atheists, we need your help. Atheists are just simply too much of a minority here.

  • OK, first off before we even start on technology, lets focus on the fact that the theory of evolution fails to provide physical evidence of the evolutionary process!

    where are the fossils between A and Z ? all that we seem to find is a and z but nothing in between. so there is no proof of "evolution" and yet the not so intellectual individual adheres to such illusions! is it because everyone who does is afraid? i find it rather amusing that people who have no intellect on such matter even try

  • @1AD76 I used to post a lot of transitional fossils when people asked this question. Now I don't have to, now I just tell people to go to talkorigins(dot)com for a list of a couple hundred transitions. Also check out Aronra's Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism of youtube. The 9th one should work for your question.

  • "As soon as you make something idiot-proof, somebody builds a better idiot."

    I heard that & Portal 2 INSTANTLY sprung to mind XD

  • Once a scientist has created biological life in a laboratory from non-living matter and can give a reasonable explanation as to how the same event could have happened in nature, the gods will be on the ropes.

  • An interesting point at 6:21 "everything is just rules." Al Kwarzami destroyed the science/logical investigation advantage Islamic culture enjoyed by claiming that the rules we think exist are not permanent, but are only apparently so. Allah, if It wanted, could negate gravity, the nature of light, the composition of atoms....

    Within a century, Islam went from the forefront of math/science to a dead stop because it adopted Al Kwarzami's philosophy wholesale. What a waste.

  • @TheAtheistExperience According to my Biology textbook, scientists define life as: composed of cells, different levels of organization, using energy, responds to the environment, grows, reproduces, and adapts to the environment. These are the seven characteristics of life. Science approved of course :)

  • "As soon as you make something idiot proof, someone will build a better idiot."

    LOL.

    who knows who said that (who Matt was quoting)?

  • Could there be an evil god?

  • I lol'd at 4:00

  • And here's another one: "death of god by fulton sheen" on you tube. Then ask yourselves if you have the modern brains or ancient theories. Pls. Note! its best to understand is you watch all 3 vids and if u are smart enough to comprehend sheen.

  • Why US and other atheist change? And are becoming more religious than europe? Simple. Because they are smarter! You tube this: "Glory of Science by fulton sheen"

  • When I see the fast decline of religion in many countries for example in Europe already, I know one day the religious will be in a minority in the rest of the world. It depends largely on how well other countries can organize things like education, secular government etc.

  • Science is advancing exponentially these days. I can see that in 5 or 10 years psychologists will officially declare that belief in the abrahamic faiths as a form of insanity. Any believers left will be monked up in some cave somewhere. It will be called the talking monkey cave, or if they take a vow of silence it will be called the mute monkey cave.

  • Its ironic how the US was founded as the first secular country ever, and nowadays the US is ridiculously religious compared to say nothern europe where I'm from. If you live here it's more of an embarrasment to admit you believe in a god..

  • @Minkki82 Okay I'm moving to Northern Europe then

  • I liked the double horns 0:12.

  • Omg, im from norway, I cant believe that some of us still suck that bad in english, but it doesnt matter, he got his point through.

  • @TheAtheistExperience The problem with what people like whataboutbob53 say is that they don't get that there was no creator behind life. Therefore, there's no "burden" to "replicate" evolution and abiogenesis. In fact, by genetically manipulating DNA and RNA, we are already using our consciousness to surpass in specialization what just "happened" throughout millions of years. Asking to "create life from non-life" is like asking NASA to create a second sun. One day, I'm sure, we will create life.

  • i believe under the right circumstances it is possible for religion to become obsolete.

  • Asking will science kill god, is like asking will mathematics kill Harry Potter. Its not really a question.

  • @matthewlane Absolutely right its not a scientific question.

  • It really is getting harder to trick kids these days about religion. They simply arent as dumb anymore. In the pre-internet days, most people were content with whatever they were told. There were limited ways to educate yourself, so you didnt question things as much. But now, if kids question something, they can reach into their pocket and access most of mans knowledge on their phone. Then form their own opinion. Telling a kid something these days is followed by 100 "WHY"s until you give up lol.

  • @TheAtheistExperience Scientists are studying the plausability of abiogenesis (viable theory of how life began). They have met with some success and the study is ongoing.

    My question to any theist posing this question "Let me know when a scientist learns how to create life from non-life." is as follows:

    If a scientist does end up creating life from non-life in a laboratory (I'm willing to place bets on science here) will you accept defeat or just come up with a new question?

  • @AkrayBothorda Ah, 'moving the goal post'. In that case, you'll need a few extra eons for them to figure it out and even then I can't guarantee they'll admit defeat. Y_Y

  • You can't kill something that doesn't exist, so I'm assuming it's symbolic, like 'killing a pedestrian in GTA', in which case the answer is 'yes'.

  • First theists tried to brainwash people into believing in a story book version of 'god' who answers prayers and passes judgment.

    When that became ridiculous in light of advancing science, they switched the 'god' to a more scientific-sounding esoteric concept, complete with science lingo, in order to sound dignified and legitimate.

    When scientific understanding advances even more the next step will inevitably be the total abandonment of 'god' altogether. Patience, my friends.

  • @whataboutbob53 Wouldn't matter, you'd just move the goalposts ... again!

  • @TheAtheistExperience Mr. Data is not a form of life because he does not replicate himself.

  • @scruethedemiurge

    - "Mr. Data is not a form of life because he does not replicate himself."

    That is just because he has never been on a Data.

  • @TheAtheistExperience Good one!

  • @scruethedemiurge Actually, in the episode "The Offspring", Data does exactly that..

  • @MrMZaccone I've never seen that one. Sounds interesting.

  • @scruethedemiurge What about mules? are they not living life forms for they can not reproduce?

  • @kingkong8974 Yeah, but mules are composed of self replicating cells.

  • @scruethedemiurge What about viruses?

  • @kingkong8974 The criterium for life as defined in biology are these. An outter membrane, metabolism and a means of replication. Viruses have neither the membrane nor metabolism. All they do is copy themselves.

    Also, life proper is not to be confused with sentience. Mr. Data was a sentient being. That's undeniable. He was self aware and he even had an emotion chip. But he did not replicate. Nor was the material of his body self replicating like organic cells. He was sentient non life.

  • @scruethedemiurge I never brought star trek into my question.

  • @kingkong8974 Yeah, I mentioned it anyway.

  • @scruethedemiurge This is wrong, Data made a robot chick in one episode, later it died or something.

  • I would argue that viruses are alive, because they, when in a host, display all the hallmarks of life. And the major selling point for me is the fact that they are subject to the same natural biological laws - such as evolution - that all other life is.

  • Two rednecks thinking they are intelligent. Matt's a quarter way there but the other guy is a complete clown. Why call these clowns looking for answers, they are redneck fools.

  • Can't kill something that doesn't exist.

  • @kennegun

    Rather, you can't kill a deeply cherished belief that one can't ever technically disprove. And you can rest assured that believers will always carefully define "god" in such a way so that he is beyond any empirical analysis, no matter how advanced our knowledge of the universe becomes.

  • Putting religion aside for a moment, why the heck is astrology still around? It's not even a religion, but it's still quoted and newspapers for "fluff" pieces still talk to astrologists and numerologists and give them the time of day.

    Why?

    They're almost worse then religious people, because they're even easier to debunk. I just simply don't understand why it's still around.

  • @bersaba

    Because astrology is fun. Superstitions are also fun (I take it you've never gone fishing). It's the idiots who take the stuff seriously (and the con artists who make money off them) who ruin it.

  • @TheAtheistExperience i hope im around when they start building sentient machines, just so i can say to everyone "huh you see, conciousness isnt supernatural magic hokus pokus"

    it will prove all that is needed to produce conciousness is physical systems

  • 3:15 - matt is lookin' at god haha

  • Al-Quran has 1400 years ago and Muslim Scientists has been declared "He (God) makes you (human), in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness".

    Al Quran sura Az Zumar;6

    ".....He (God) makes you, in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness. . . ."

    Have the Bible and scientists states "He (God ) makes you (human), in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness"?

  • I think we should kill retards for god, everyone makes mistakes even god so we should help god fix his mistakes by killing those retards. Save a lot of money for people and not those things.

  • Ah, the horrible Norwegian accent (I'm Norwegian aswell; not trying to offend anyone) ^_^

  • @Jostedalsosten It's sexy, dontcha know, ya sure ya betcha. It's different than the Scandinavian-American accent of my youth, but still brings me back. ;)

  • Nothing and no one can create itself. So either god has always been and created the universe, or the universe has always been, I go with the latter, since I have no evidence of God.

  • @47saeed I'm not religious but the universe hasn't always been. It has been shown that the universe is expanding from a single point so all matter must have at one point been at that point so the universe must have had a beginning.

  • @666or999 The Big Bang theory does not say it was the beginning of everything; it was the beginning of the only things that we can definitely measure, some physicist think we can never know what was before the singularity, some physicist think we may be able to find out. There are many scientific explanations for the cause of the Big Bang. String theory, Big Bang being born out of black holes etc.

  • @TheAtheistExperience news, the first synthethic cells have been made. you can find them on youtube and google. just search sythethic cell. the first life form have been made with compleatly non-living mather.

  • @gooddarkjedi

    Dude is that a reliable source? I'll look into that. Thanks. 

  • Science will not kill God. Science proves that God exists.

  • @PheremoneJ not really. God will probably always remain as an unprovable paradox that defies logic and reason.

  • @supersmash43 AND THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE. amen to that!@

  • @PheremoneJ

    *FACEPALM!

  • @SupaShang Don't laugh or think i'm a dork, but FACEPALM is good right?

  • is there any atheist who can prove god does not exist??

  • @123footballers lol we can't prove that something doesn't exist. ok can you prove that unicorns don't exist? i mean if you show some evidence of god, and show me what he/she can do then i'lll believe that he exists, until then i have no good reason to think the he exist.

  • @Atheist603 God is a cool concept, but it doesn't hold to the scrutiny of logic and reason.

  • @Atheist603 we know concept of god through people who claimed as prophets,,

    now when a person says his a prophet,,you can only start believing him when he starts proving things to you,,

    people believed moses when he started miracles,,

    people started believing jesus when he done miracles,,

    DO YOU THINK THOSE PROPHETS WERE NOT REAL PROPHETS??

    and what about there miracles...

  • @Atheist603 we know concept of god through people who claimed as prophets,,

    now when a person says his a prophet,,you can only start believing him when he starts proving things to you,,

    people believed moses when he started miracles,,

    people started believing jesus when he done miracles,,

    DO YOU THINK THOSE PROPHETS WERE NOT REAL PROPHETS??

    and what about there miracles

  • @123footballers Is there ANYONE who can prove ANY god exists ?

    If You claim with absolute certitude that a god exists, Then the burden of Proof is on You to Provide Verifiable Factual Proof NOT scripture to support Your absolute belief !

  • @123footballers

    Is there any A-unicornist or A-goblinist that can prove unicorns and goblins don't exist? Atheism is not about proving anything. It is the lack of belief in a God because of the lack of evidence to support one/him/her/it. It is a pointless title that nobody should need to use, sadly it is all we have to differentiate from those that do hold the belief in a God with NO evidence to support it.

  • @SupaShang exactly because the VAST majority of American adults are probably A-Unicornist or A-goblinists and those probably include mostly Christians and other theists.

  • @supersmash43

    If so, then why are people asking atheists to disprove a God that they don't believe in? It is an oxymoron if you really think about it. Atheists acknowledge the CONCEPT of a God, yet reject the EXISTENCE of God due to the lack of evidence. I don't understand why more people don't understand this mentality. Warning analogy ahead! Conceptualising a blue hedgehog that jumps and collects rings does not make it tangible matter.

  • @SupaShang atheists don't need to disprove God. Theists need to prove the God which most of them are so certain exists. And yes Sonic the Hedgehog is not tangible either because it is at best an action figure but usually is just a bunch of pixels on the screen.

  • @supersmash43

    Exactly. "Asonicist" is a title that nobody would want. Just like the way atheists would rather not have to call themselves an atheist. I'm an atheist, but it is a label I could do without. Sadly, it's the only thing we have to firmly state that because there is no evidence for a God - that is why we don't believe one exists. Creationists get angry because the onus is on them to prove something they cannot. But everyone knows that anyway. :)

  • @123footballers Is there any Christian, Jew, Hindu that can prove that God exists?

  • There will always be religion until it is no longer a viable business. Until conartists no longer make money from their cons, conartistry will continue.

  • science is only discoverying,,,imagine the one who put everything there,,

  • @123footballers Please present evidence that everything was put here by a "someone"??

    By your statement alone you are jumping to a conclusion.

  • @jmdnarri have you seen a lecture on youtube under the title IS THE QURAN GODS WORD ZAKIR,,

    in that lecture he gives scientific proves to atheists that god exists,,

    if you believe in science then watch it.

  • @123footballers

    Sorry, but I have seen enough clips of this "Dr." Zakir to know he is full of crap. I am not going to sit through 4 hours of religous retoric to fish out what you think is "proof" of God.

    If you would be so kind as to give me the highlights of what you think is relevant to proving God, I would be happy to discuss it with you.

  • God of the gaps will eventually push the religious towards Deism rather than Christianity or Islam or any other religion. I think it's possible that Deism will become the future majority religion, because it merely posits a creative force outside of what we can examine, and this allows to persist without scrutiny.

  • @astroadventure LOL Deism was pretty much my stand, untill a monolog by Matt made me realize I was an Atheist who hadn't come out yet.

  • They talk about science and progress reaching a point at which religion and superstition is an embarrassment and a "hobby" and taken seriously by very few people, but progress can always be undone. A third world war, a good sized astroid stirke, a world catastrophe of some sort...progress could be set back in a number of ways and fear and trama and loss of knowledge could result in increased religiousity on a world scale. It can happen.

  • Maybe, but would the monotheisms, the truly harmful ones, ever reappear? I doubt it. Especially given that any progress after a 'reset' would likely be faster than before, since not all the knowledge would be destroyed. Doing that would require humans' extinction.

  • If your not bound by the universe that means your beyond it but you can't go beyond the universe so he is bounded by the universe which to sum it up load of shit his a fairy tale

  • @whataboutbob53 do some research on "abiogenesis"

  • @fataldesain:thank you

  • Yea and some one let me know when you see god creating humans or any kind of life. record it and put it on youtube..

  • @whataboutbob53 They did a little way ago.

    Remember the 'artificial cell' news?

  • The internal inconsistencies and unlikely supernatural claims of any holy text are in no way related to the God question. The God question is an inquiry into the ultimate nature of reality. If there was a calculating intellect behind existence. These questions can be divorced from religious thinking.

  • @whataboutbob53 (Cont.)

    The problem with "life" is that there is a gray area between non-life and life, just like there is a gray area between life and death. People can be more dead than alive. Dieing usually doesn't happen in a split second, so there is not one moment when life suddenly changes into non-life, and likewise life as we know it didn't suddenly pop into existence out of 100% dead material. At least, not unless a god magically blew some "life force" into a non-living clay figure...

  • @TheAtheistExperience In response to life popping up, that's only really an issue if we think that time is finite and not infinite or looped in some fashion. Time is an obscure concept still though, one of those people could debate until they died and get nowhere.

  • @TheAtheistExperience i agree there is a grey area between non life and life. but there is no grey area between life and death, its just really hard to pin point the exact moment. but you cant exist in a state of being alive and being dead at the same time like schroediner's cat.

  • LMAO: How well you made it idiot proof, there will be always someone that makes a better idiot. LOL

  • i'd love to see all these people's faces after they die and meet god. Surprise SURPRISE

  • (continued) why cant this pre-big bang object be conscious? It had all of the elements in the universe and literally infinite amount of time to evolve, so why cant this have evolved some type of consciousness over time? This would explain all the "luck" we had to become what we are today. If you really understand how the big bang and evolution works, think about this for a while and please let me know how I am mistaken.

  • What about people that believe in science and god? Einstein, one of the greatest scientists of all time believed in a god just not the one described in the bible. I myself think it is not reasonable that everything including the big bang happened all by accident. I think there must be some type of consciousness or force that drove the big bang and evolution. Think about what it must have been before the big bang. It is theorized that all elements were mixed together in to one point. whay cant...

  • if religion is removed, people will still believe.

  • Wow! Cool, I enjoyed this.

  • Awesome! This is the 1st video I've seen of you guys, and I loved it! Awesome Job! Thumbs UP!

  • Religion will die eventually, Athiest theory hasn't been around long enought to take hold like religion did, but piece by piece, lie by lie, Gods will fade away, like zeus and thor, and Sheogorath

  • @Alexc3217 Unless there is a fanatical Athiest Purge... which might be fun... anyone want to fire the first bullet?

    Kidding of course... Mwa ha ha ha!

  • @Alexc3217 I Agree and hope it does happen

  • u guys are fucken smart...i try to tell people the same shit....this is my first time seeing your video and i have said just about everything you guys are saying....

  • Funny how something that has evolved to ultimately become inherent to the human condition( i.e. religions and beliefs in gods) can't be quantified by atheist reason.

    matt struggles to make the connection that our brains have evolved to a level of comprehending abstract thought and imagination. You can in fact learn from just imagining.

    matt is just offering an opinion of a non existent Utopia that is a myth...lol irony

  • Yes,man wants to become like God,and in control of the forces of nature,and a master of the universe.Science alone will save us from our sins and make humanity's salvation possible....without God and Christ,the way,the truth and the life will have to sought elsewhere.Good luck.

  • Is belief in God really for the confused? That implies that those scientists who do believe in God are also confused as well.If science has killed God,then why are do people still believe Him? Surely,as science has triumphed over God and now stands over the corpse,there is nothing to stop godless humans from ultimately becoming,through SCIENCE,(the beacon of absolute truth) what he doesn't now currently believe-GOD!

  • Has God known the formula: E=Mc^2 ? If God has known the formula why HE / SHE /IT didn't write it in His Bible? # In my opinion Religion studied the world inside and Physics studied the world outside The Physics explains Logically what Nature and Religion are Religion gives the Practical path to reach the Ultimate Nature of Reality ==========. Israel Socratus
  • @bogmire777 How so?

  • If not god some other irrational thing will replace their thoughts.

  • The majority of people at my school are atheists/agnostic (I'm pretty lucky to live here). The younger generations are more atheist, so most likely their kids will be even more atheist, and so on and so on. But it will take a long time, I think, for atheism to become the majority, which I believe someday it will. There will always be a few loonies though, no matter what.

  • Flat earthers deny evidence and fabricate stories of a global conspiracy, and that is what Christians are beginning to do. I think that trend will just continue in the future.

  • @HimmiJoe

    True

  • HEY! I didnt know the Swedish chef from the Muppet Show was an atheist!

  • Science only proves the existence of God, not destroy it.

  • Science tells us that big things come from small things, not the other way around.  If there is a god, he must have been created through a scientific process. The statement "before there was god, there was nothing" is scientifically proven to be false. Keep in mind that many religious people, specifically in the mormon community, completely agree with the statement i just made.

  • And to you "life" is believing that some sky pixie made everything 6000yrs ago? And show some proof of the "supernatural power". No, dont just say "ive seen it!!" That isnt proof.

  • And to you... you simply believe what scientists want you to believe no matter how much they lie to you.... just like evolutionist. What have science ever create that its not already there in existence?

  • Science isn't as much about creating as it is about discovering and understanding. But if you want creating, think of plastic. Made by man.

  • Mason..

    Like you know what life is?

    Instead thinking of a god theory that excist for so long and has alot of diffrent theorys

    and only saying god did it

    Science trying to find out.

    And not making a dot saying god did itand without proof only words My life is a selfish waste?

    power of ego? and lil gods who will fail

    Dang the only selfish guy who's here is you, You can't even accept another being who he/she is.

    Why do you think were just haters?

    We just live or way how we are

  • Im an atheist and im having a pretty good time, i work strongly with my community and share much love with my friends and family.

    Just remember, if there is a god, he likely loves me much more than you because i do good things just because its right, and you likely only do them out of fear. Hell, i probably have more of a chance at heaven than you do.

  • Ahahahaha...

  • Albert Einstein "WAS NOT A THEIST" but don't take my word for it-you do the research!!! Did Einstein believe in a supreme being that DID NOT interact with man kind? That's debatable!! Again(for the third time for slow theists), he DID NOT believe in an interactive God!!

  • Einstine was a pantheist. Look up the Spinozas god quote

  • And Einstien said and I quote, "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

  • pandapalace11 , stop spreading lies but rather research the man first!

  • Spinoza and Einstine were Pantheists. And by that, i mean they both used the word "god" as a metaphor for the mysteries of the universe. I myself, am an atheist

  • Ok, got your point! Did you ever get mine? I didn't gear it toward you but did you bother to read my first comments before you commented?

  • Actually yes, yes i did. I understood, but i just wanted to interject that he was a PANtheist

  • He stated that he was not a pantheist! Was he by the definition one? Could be, but quite frankly I don't care!

  • I just think it's dumb to use preoccupied terms for things like "god" for things that. It's as stupid as the name of the Church of Satan... which doesn't have much to do with what most people know as "satan."

  • God is outside of rules, time, space, universe, logic, & common sense.

  • common sense killed god a long time ago.

  • @fataldesain Good one

  • @Siddy500 thank you

  • i man and his god squad were walking down the sidewalk holding bibles wearing cross t shirts or something like that. he started to say something to me about god and i began to laugh at him. he got really mad.

  • nice one

  • It's ok to slap sheep

  • Where I live science and intellectuals, has killed God in a political sense. If you say in public that your faith directly affects your political motions and voting, you would be torn apart by media and opinion. We would call that none democratic. Obviously there are believers in politics, but those people keep it PRIVATE. I think we have succeeded in that sense. I'm afraid that in none progressive countries such as America or Brazil it will take a lot of time. But we'll all get there!

  • Yeah, in America you pretty much HAVE to be a christian to be elected(especially for the Republican party), it's really stupid :-(

  • Dang that sucks...

    Men it's realy screwed up

    That so much ppl can't accept the way how another live.. you don't believe in god? Be happy and be proud who you are if you can rely on yourself you have youre own faith in youre hands

  • don: "I'd like to kill God"

    matt: "I'm working on it"

    indeed you are, matt..

  • Why do you want to kill a god who supposedly doesn't exist? Take your best shot. You'll keep missing the target.

  • @PortVienna80

    God exists in the mind of confused folk. And these confused folk empower their imaginary god by acting as his agents. Helping them not be confused diminishes the power of their imaginary god.

    Hence the idea of killing god.

    God doesn't exist, but the idea of god is alive.

    Kill it whenever you are presented with the opportunity.

    The idea of god is the worst aspect of the human condition wrapped up in sanctimonious humbug.

    It's a vile idea. Good riddance when it's gone.

  • @Oceanus57 funny how well your idea worked the first time when it was realized in Russia by Stalin, only he had the secret police to kick your teeth in if you didn't agree.

    Also funny that it didn't work.

    Is it logical that your idea is not very good?....

  • Okay... There's a fundamentally flawed logic here among many comments.

    No, science can't answer it all with 100% certainty, but religion doesn't even TRY. What god is, essentially, is just a relabeled unknown.

    That's why religion is so viciously effected at breeding ignorance. Instead of encouraging making the unknown known, they encourage keeping the unknown unknown but just calling the unknown "god dun it".

  • *effective

  • I didn't see him neither do I have proof for that he was here, except a book that was man made. Perhaps I should write a book about fairies and claim that as a proof for fairies existence. Even if he was here, what proof is there that he was divine or had divine connections to God? None, none none. I have no rational and credible reason to believe there is a God, thus I'm an idiot? An idiot to me is someone who believes in something without credible and rational proof. Look at yourself.

  • lolz i thought he nailed his son to a cross not his donkey. ah well, ya live and learn