This is not "early English." This is Early Modern English.
Old English was spoken from between at least the mid-5th century and the mid-12th century. Middle English was spoken when the Normans came in 1066. Modern English was spoken after the Great Vowel Shift in the mid 16th century. I'm just a dumb American, and even I know that.
My choir. Schola Cantorum, is doing two bay area concerts on 3/12 and 3/13/2011 -- and one of the arrangements is of this song.We also have some wonderful, light music too; folk songs from the British Isles, as well as some great arrangements of American folk music by Dawn Reyen, our assistant director.
We sang this in a medieval class I took a couple of years ago. It's so nice to hear how it's supposed to sound...haha! We didn't have any recording to listen to--just our professor and her guitar, and no great singers among us. It's a beautiful song, though, when it's done right! :)
do you have the sheet music that i can print out? thanks for the vid it rox mah sox and it also helps with trying to figure out how to sing it the site i have to use for my schooling (im homeschooled) has the instrumental version - no words :(
on the inside. The funeral is attended by his faithful hounds, hawks and servants. It shows that the Knight's faith in God remained with him to the end of this life and proves that faith exists even in the worst circumstances.
The song is rather dark when you think about it. It is about the death of a knight. The ravens are seen in early pagan culture as a symbol of death - the equivalent of the cross of Jesus in the Christian religion. The Knight is such a good hunter that even his dogs and hawks trust him. The Doe could be seen as the lover of the Knight. She finds the body and kisses his wounds. The woman then takes to his place of burial and buries him. She is so stricken with grief that she too feels dead
@Gilnar13 Following the crucifixion of Jesus, and in the nascent Christian Church, the cross became indeed very early in Roman times a symbol of victory over death. We have to consider, however, that most who were subjected to this horrible penalty were obvisouly not of the Christian faith.
There are three ravens looking for some breakfast and they see a dead knight under a tree but he's protected by his hawks and hounds so they can't eat him. Then a 'fallow doe' comes along, either literally a pregnant female deer or more likely the knights pregnant wife comes and carries him on her back to the burial mound and buries him and then dies herself before the evening.
The English Renaissance runs a bit late compared to Italy and other parts of Europe, so 1600 need not be Baroque because of its date. Besides it is on the very cusp of the rosy dawn. As for the 13th century, many poetry anthologies have related Three Raven poems that are dated from the Middle Ages. Like Twa Corbies if memory serves...
Gorgeous...I've never heard an English song like this before...absolutely amazing. And Scholl's impecable control...his beautiful melodic interpretation makes this, in my opinion, the greatest English Baroque song ever written.
The Three Ravens is a folk ballad, printed in the song book Melismata compiled by Thomas Ravenscroft and published in 1611. Some believe that it may have been used earlier, but, as for the musical publishment, it is English Baroque, since the Baroque Period started from 1600 to about 1750. The poem itself may be from Medieval or even the Renaissance Periods, but this version is Baroque. But, thank you for your comment and have a nice day =)
Thanks for the info. I need to stop being so obnoxious. Looked up the book I learnt it from. It says "From English Melodies, 13th to 18th century" Vicent Jackson. So I guess i was being a little optimistic.
Oh...you are not obnoxious...it is totally okay. I've done it before, so...it's totally okay. But, I'm glad to be of service. So, thank you for that opportunity. And, have another nice day =)
la voix de Scholl vibre comme une incantation dans ce chant envoutant, "The three ravens" n'a jamais été aussi bien interprétée. Bravo pour cette video, trés reussie comme toujours, la musique baroque a toujours su conter les histoires...
Ich kenne dieses Lied gesungen vom Hilliardensemble und zwar so, wie es die Noten anzeigen. Nicht so perfekt wie Herr Scholl, aber eindringlicher, da merkt man dann eben, dass jene Engländer sind!
It is in Scholl's album called "English Folk Songs and Lute Songs" that he recorded with Andreas Martin playing the lute. Absolutely a must have album!
Possibly the world, not only the US...but looking forward to hear your interpretation of those Marilyn songs. Can you upload them? You have at least one interested listener. Quality is better than Quantity! ;O)
I uploaded one of my recordings but I am afraid the quality of it is not the cat's meow .. I hope you won't be laughing out loud and unsubscribing after listening:)) I should be ashamed of myself for posting this:))
Heart, of course...I am native German and those "Fehler" mistakes happen sometimes, and after 12 years living here...Check out the Klaus Nomi video that is under my favorites. It is very deep and touching. Magnificent, too.
I am checking those videos right now.. By the way, I had a feeling that you are German national. When I checked your channel, I was surprised to see USA for the country:)) Well.. I better take a look at those videos now:)
I do have some of my own recordings but they are from the time I started practicing myself, so they are really unbearable:)) But I am getting ready to record now as you guessed the material mostly from among the arias and songs you see me uploading.
Ah, I used to sing songs that Monroe used to sing. Like "My heart belongs to daddy", "I wanna be loved by you". Such dear songs.. And the fraud is nothing that surprises me, part of the life in the US it seems.. Very sad...
Thank you so much--it touched my hard so deeply, because of all the characters in this song--if you go to my videos about the little "raven" and the dove, and my dogs, it was just so weird how this song matched to my life sitution. But I believe in those things! And I love Andreas Scholl's wonderful voice.
I thank you indeed.. I was waiting for one soul to comment on this one:)) And you are it! I love his interpretations of early music. His singing is so pure and simple yet so moving..
This is not "early English." This is Early Modern English.
Old English was spoken from between at least the mid-5th century and the mid-12th century. Middle English was spoken when the Normans came in 1066. Modern English was spoken after the Great Vowel Shift in the mid 16th century. I'm just a dumb American, and even I know that.
Damn, this guy is good!
allenjmsmith 4 weeks ago
0:46 lol, they missspelled green!!
TobiShinobii 6 months ago
@TobiShinobii There were no spelling rules in 1611; words were spelled in many different ways back then.
evolution031680 2 months ago
Love it ^_^
16Arson 7 months ago
I have heard a version here in Yt with a boy alto, where is it?
It would be cool an interpretation with the boy Connor Burrowes, but I think he made no recordings of that.
Best wishes.
tkbewunderin79 8 months ago
My choir. Schola Cantorum, is doing two bay area concerts on 3/12 and 3/13/2011 -- and one of the arrangements is of this song.We also have some wonderful, light music too; folk songs from the British Isles, as well as some great arrangements of American folk music by Dawn Reyen, our assistant director.
caroltubeyou 11 months ago
Beautiful voice, so pure and clear. And he interprets this sad, sad song so beautifully.
caroltubeyou 11 months ago
This is such a gorgeous song, and Scholl/ lutenist convey it wonderfully! Thankyou Civileso.
locomotifx 1 year ago
I really love this song
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
nice...!
but the notes and the sung tones don't always really match O.o...
nitewulf2hell 1 year ago
We sang this in a medieval class I took a couple of years ago. It's so nice to hear how it's supposed to sound...haha! We didn't have any recording to listen to--just our professor and her guitar, and no great singers among us. It's a beautiful song, though, when it's done right! :)
Procrastimaster 1 year ago
this reminds me of blondie's call me.
happyman 1 year ago
That's interesting, it's the exact opposite stories of "twa corbies" (the two crows)
MrLeomonkey 1 year ago
can you please put the song up for downloading!
youngLaraCroft 1 year ago
Incredibly lovely - thank you for introducing me to this marvellous and deceptively simple-sounding song.
goldieken 1 year ago
I've listened to this many many times... so sad...
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
he is simply amazing. Magical voice. Love the ballad, too. Touches the heart on a quiet night.
God send every gentleman such peace, such sounds and such a music... ;-)
cantecleer 1 year ago 5
crystal clear --- like from outer space ...
TheAaronmoses 1 year ago
I saw a live performance of this the other day and I was sobbing. This song is so beautiful and so tragic.
UnderALilacTree 2 years ago 2
Superb.
newFranzFerencLiszt 2 years ago
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ist eigentlich kein Englischer song
nur wie soviele andere Lieder
von den Engländern umgeschrieben worden.
Die Melodie ist sogar fast die gleiche.
Ich find das irgendwie nervig das die Engländer alles geschichtlich an sich klammern obwohl es von den Schotten stammt, hört auf die Geschichte
zu verdrehen und hört auf die Schotten zu unterdrücken ihr Bastarde
raven1455 2 years ago
do you have the sheet music that i can print out? thanks for the vid it rox mah sox and it also helps with trying to figure out how to sing it the site i have to use for my schooling (im homeschooled) has the instrumental version - no words :(
AquaticaTheHedgehog 2 years ago
Thank you so much for this deeply touching song, sung so very beautifully. And thanks too for score and lyrics.
Josefrainer 2 years ago 13
Quelle voix magnifique !
hanterkant 2 years ago 3
i think this is great!
mageison 2 years ago 4
on the inside. The funeral is attended by his faithful hounds, hawks and servants. It shows that the Knight's faith in God remained with him to the end of this life and proves that faith exists even in the worst circumstances.
january301973 2 years ago 3
The song is rather dark when you think about it. It is about the death of a knight. The ravens are seen in early pagan culture as a symbol of death - the equivalent of the cross of Jesus in the Christian religion. The Knight is such a good hunter that even his dogs and hawks trust him. The Doe could be seen as the lover of the Knight. She finds the body and kisses his wounds. The woman then takes to his place of burial and buries him. She is so stricken with grief that she too feels dead
january301973 2 years ago 3
I agree, but cross isn't just a smybol of death, but mainly a symbol of sacrifice, victory OVER death and salvation.
Gilnar13 2 years ago 9
@Gilnar13 Following the crucifixion of Jesus, and in the nascent Christian Church, the cross became indeed very early in Roman times a symbol of victory over death. We have to consider, however, that most who were subjected to this horrible penalty were obvisouly not of the Christian faith.
bernard1422 1 year ago
If I worked, I could probably sing this.
RomanticCrusader 2 years ago
Can someone tell me the message of the song? xD
English project..
flipster123chris12 2 years ago
There are three ravens looking for some breakfast and they see a dead knight under a tree but he's protected by his hawks and hounds so they can't eat him. Then a 'fallow doe' comes along, either literally a pregnant female deer or more likely the knights pregnant wife comes and carries him on her back to the burial mound and buries him and then dies herself before the evening.
electrofromage 2 years ago 5
If anyone has the guitar music for this could they post it. I would love to have it!!
sidewaysinfinity8 2 years ago
Maravilhoso, simplesmente maravilhoso!!!!!!!
toddydelahov 2 years ago
The English Renaissance runs a bit late compared to Italy and other parts of Europe, so 1600 need not be Baroque because of its date. Besides it is on the very cusp of the rosy dawn. As for the 13th century, many poetry anthologies have related Three Raven poems that are dated from the Middle Ages. Like Twa Corbies if memory serves...
SimianHeretic 2 years ago 2
i cant watch this video
i liked this video :) ul
Emilydawes 3 years ago
I must say, I prefer the Baltimore Consort's version.
evolve749 3 years ago
could u tell me where u found the sheet music please? i want to play it ^__^
kakuoh 3 years ago
Absolutely bone chillingly beautiful, makes me proud to be English. Can anyone recommend more English folk music in this ilk?
electrofromage 3 years ago 3
Have a look at Francis Child's "Child Ballads". Very good ones amongst them. :)
CountessaOfRavenclaw 3 years ago 2
Gorgeous...I've never heard an English song like this before...absolutely amazing. And Scholl's impecable control...his beautiful melodic interpretation makes this, in my opinion, the greatest English Baroque song ever written.
aljazeerkazan 3 years ago 2
Not english Baroque, older 13th century.
meandmymandola 3 years ago 3
The Three Ravens is a folk ballad, printed in the song book Melismata compiled by Thomas Ravenscroft and published in 1611. Some believe that it may have been used earlier, but, as for the musical publishment, it is English Baroque, since the Baroque Period started from 1600 to about 1750. The poem itself may be from Medieval or even the Renaissance Periods, but this version is Baroque. But, thank you for your comment and have a nice day =)
aljazeerkazan 3 years ago
Thanks for the info. I need to stop being so obnoxious. Looked up the book I learnt it from. It says "From English Melodies, 13th to 18th century" Vicent Jackson. So I guess i was being a little optimistic.
Have a good day also
meandmymandola 3 years ago 2
Oh...you are not obnoxious...it is totally okay. I've done it before, so...it's totally okay. But, I'm glad to be of service. So, thank you for that opportunity. And, have another nice day =)
aljazeerkazan 3 years ago
The Three Ravens is probably a varient of the older Border Ballad, the Twa Corbies.
In true Folk Tradition, I tend to sing an amalgamation of the two!
oldun52 3 years ago
la voix de Scholl vibre comme une incantation dans ce chant envoutant, "The three ravens" n'a jamais été aussi bien interprétée. Bravo pour cette video, trés reussie comme toujours, la musique baroque a toujours su conter les histoires...
kabuto290 3 years ago
Ich kenne dieses Lied gesungen vom Hilliardensemble und zwar so, wie es die Noten anzeigen. Nicht so perfekt wie Herr Scholl, aber eindringlicher, da merkt man dann eben, dass jene Engländer sind!
samada3us 3 years ago
Truly beautiful and a hallmark of ages past. Powerful, MOST powerful. Used also in Schama's work.
darkwraith07 3 years ago
Thank you for your work, civileso ! I really like this song. And the manner of Scholl control his voice.
Aeneas95 4 years ago 2
marvellous song with a bit of fairietale
very good choice to use andrea scholl as contre-tenor
for this traditionnal english song.
ztalextz8 4 years ago
Beautiful! Thanks for posting, 5 Stars, no doubt!
I don't suppose anyone knows where I could find a recording of this as MP3 or on CD?
Madpossum 4 years ago 5
It is in Scholl's album called "English Folk Songs and Lute Songs" that he recorded with Andreas Martin playing the lute. Absolutely a must have album!
civileso 4 years ago
It was released under Harmonia Mundi label
civileso 4 years ago
Possibly the world, not only the US...but looking forward to hear your interpretation of those Marilyn songs. Can you upload them? You have at least one interested listener. Quality is better than Quantity! ;O)
MarkBellinghaus 4 years ago
Thank you for the very much needed encouragement! I won't dissapoint you then:)
civileso 4 years ago
I uploaded one of my recordings but I am afraid the quality of it is not the cat's meow .. I hope you won't be laughing out loud and unsubscribing after listening:)) I should be ashamed of myself for posting this:))
civileso 4 years ago
And no, it is not a M Monroe song.. Maybe next time..
civileso 4 years ago
Heart, of course...I am native German and those "Fehler" mistakes happen sometimes, and after 12 years living here...Check out the Klaus Nomi video that is under my favorites. It is very deep and touching. Magnificent, too.
MarkBellinghaus 4 years ago
I am checking those videos right now.. By the way, I had a feeling that you are German national. When I checked your channel, I was surprised to see USA for the country:)) Well.. I better take a look at those videos now:)
civileso 4 years ago
Are there any videos with your own work--meaning singing of course? Very interested to hear.
I was under the impression that you sung some of the songs yourself.
Correct or not?
So what do you think about that nasty Marilyn Monroe fraud? Marilyn was a terriffic singer btw and she took singing lessons her life long...
Night. ;O)
MarkBellinghaus 4 years ago
I do have some of my own recordings but they are from the time I started practicing myself, so they are really unbearable:)) But I am getting ready to record now as you guessed the material mostly from among the arias and songs you see me uploading.
civileso 4 years ago
Ah, I used to sing songs that Monroe used to sing. Like "My heart belongs to daddy", "I wanna be loved by you". Such dear songs.. And the fraud is nothing that surprises me, part of the life in the US it seems.. Very sad...
civileso 4 years ago
Thank you so much--it touched my hard so deeply, because of all the characters in this song--if you go to my videos about the little "raven" and the dove, and my dogs, it was just so weird how this song matched to my life sitution. But I believe in those things! And I love Andreas Scholl's wonderful voice.
I subscibed instantly to your beautiful channel.
Again, Thank you.
MarkBellinghaus 4 years ago
Magnificent!
Thank you so much.
5*****
MarkBellinghaus 4 years ago
I thank you indeed.. I was waiting for one soul to comment on this one:)) And you are it! I love his interpretations of early music. His singing is so pure and simple yet so moving..
civileso 4 years ago