Hey cleargreen: when I delete one of your comments from the list, all of the user names that came from the same computer get deleted as well. Youtube was smart by adding that feature. Saves me alot of time. An aweful lot of time.
...But how do you help those who have witnessed and suffered his sorcerer knoeledge? Especially if someone tries to point out his deciet, it will always fall under: there is no such thing as dreaming or stalking or beckoning power, which are actual arts still taught today. But did carlos know a nagual, fuck no! Did he make up his story, Absolutely! Is this incrediably hard to say this to poeple? How masterful he is. How masterful he is. Meanwhile people continue to suffer.
It's funny that the only people who really fell for Castenadas con were white American women. Damn, you could sell anything to these broads, as long as its packaged with some the words magic, "actualization" and all that other marketing stuff.
or very careful and masterful. I would love to soley reveal his inconsistancies but the predator was down right correct on power's ability to be beckoned. But he certainly knew what he was doing when he revealed what he did and in the manner in which he did. Its not obvious that he is a liar. He sold himself as a guide. Impecable and celebate and he was niether. He suffered disease, never ceased to have sex. Organised a massive following at a compound with rules.
I agree: power can be summoned. That fact can be seen at every level of human history. But for what cause and by whom, is always an interesting question to delve into.
One reason people followed him is because, like so many other con artists (because, lets admit, he was an artist), he led people to believe his knowledge came from the source, and he did it by the use of a source the anthropological model was perfect for his deceit.
Jones was a CIA mind control agent. He was paid by the us Black Ops division to experiment with control of peoples thinking. The majority of his "followers" were "released" to him from mental institutions.
MOST of the people I have met in my life are "fools" & prefer it that way.
To each thier own but if i was going to start a suicide cult I wouldn't get caught. These cults were just sloppy. imagine the cults out there that no one knows about. I critisize there inability to hide there true aims. But if someone wants to kill them self who am I to stop them. Its just not me
everyone claims that Castaneda was a cult leader, if you want to get technical everything that has followers willing to do for what they believe in are a cult
the problem with castaneda is the people who is atracted by his books. They're are the stupid kind of persons who believe that every piramid around the world were (undoubtedly) made by aliens. But the first 4 books are awesome! just read them!!
everything else is a lie, possibly created by cleargreen in order to make more money.
what a joke i must see!they are all alive also castaneda old trick to disapear are only to fools.they use our primitive thinking to have life were they can practise the desired training.any p0hoto of dead castaneda any of those woman and dont began that they find bones and immediatly know!what a joke!that this is wowman named partin!they know before whom to compare DNA test!go home!i am not an idiot!but all the staff castaneda teaches are in 80%unnatural things.only 20 is more or less normal.
otherthanfiction is a crazed phyco maniac monster sicko yuky smelling bad very bad dumbdumb hurts peoples feelings fibber jerk i cant stand you i hate you please stop making me hate you kind of a bad person
"At the heart of Castaneda's movement was a group of intensely devoted women, all of whom were or had been his lovers. They were known as the witches, and two of them,vanished the day after Castaneda's death,A few weeks later, Patricia Partin, Castaneda's adopted daughter as well as his lover, also disappeared. In February 2006, a skeleton found in Death Valley, Calif., was identified through DNA analysis as Partin's."-From a Salon article on Carlos Castanada "The Godfather of the New Age".
Hey cleargreen: when I delete one of your comments from the list, all of the user names that came from the same computer get deleted as well. Youtube was smart by adding that feature. Saves me alot of time. An aweful lot of time.
otherthanfiction 1 year ago
...But how do you help those who have witnessed and suffered his sorcerer knoeledge? Especially if someone tries to point out his deciet, it will always fall under: there is no such thing as dreaming or stalking or beckoning power, which are actual arts still taught today. But did carlos know a nagual, fuck no! Did he make up his story, Absolutely! Is this incrediably hard to say this to poeple? How masterful he is. How masterful he is. Meanwhile people continue to suffer.
otherthanfiction 3 years ago
It's funny that the only people who really fell for Castenadas con were white American women. Damn, you could sell anything to these broads, as long as its packaged with some the words magic, "actualization" and all that other marketing stuff.
Shamanism and magic are real, Castanada was not.
IzzyIsou 3 years ago
or very careful and masterful. I would love to soley reveal his inconsistancies but the predator was down right correct on power's ability to be beckoned. But he certainly knew what he was doing when he revealed what he did and in the manner in which he did. Its not obvious that he is a liar. He sold himself as a guide. Impecable and celebate and he was niether. He suffered disease, never ceased to have sex. Organised a massive following at a compound with rules.
otherthanfiction 3 years ago
I agree: power can be summoned. That fact can be seen at every level of human history. But for what cause and by whom, is always an interesting question to delve into.
One reason people followed him is because, like so many other con artists (because, lets admit, he was an artist), he led people to believe his knowledge came from the source, and he did it by the use of a source the anthropological model was perfect for his deceit.
IzzyIsou 3 years ago
If the cult organizers die with the rest,it is a "true" cult.
If the cult organizers stand to inherit the wealth of the followers who die willingly or otherwise,it is an ultimate "Con" cult.
CommanderUTube 3 years ago 3
Jones was a CIA mind control agent. He was paid by the us Black Ops division to experiment with control of peoples thinking. The majority of his "followers" were "released" to him from mental institutions.
MOST of the people I have met in my life are "fools" & prefer it that way.
t4705mb6 3 years ago 6
I've noticed a connection between people who don't know how to criticize a serious feat in anthropological literature and extremely ignorant fools.
peterhndz 3 years ago 6
To each thier own but if i was going to start a suicide cult I wouldn't get caught. These cults were just sloppy. imagine the cults out there that no one knows about. I critisize there inability to hide there true aims. But if someone wants to kill them self who am I to stop them. Its just not me
otherthanfiction 3 years ago
very nicely said! I agree!
Torchbearer666 3 years ago
sounds like a problem
otherthanfiction 3 years ago
i didn't know florinda was dead.
GnomieBear 3 years ago
everyone claims that Castaneda was a cult leader, if you want to get technical everything that has followers willing to do for what they believe in are a cult
seifer109 3 years ago 2
900 people didnt all willingly drink lethal kool aid, a great many lesser devout were forced and otherwise killed. A tragedy nonetheless
deckmasterd 3 years ago
Yeah Jim Jones was a CIA Agent. Part of Mk ultra to prepare black people for The influx of heroine and corporate marketing..Ha That's funny
Mystery207 3 years ago 4
the problem with castaneda is the people who is atracted by his books. They're are the stupid kind of persons who believe that every piramid around the world were (undoubtedly) made by aliens. But the first 4 books are awesome! just read them!!
everything else is a lie, possibly created by cleargreen in order to make more money.
29alpedo 3 years ago
You really don't know what you're talking about.
solgoode1 3 years ago 49
that´s true!!
Zerrbernie 3 years ago
what a joke i must see!they are all alive also castaneda old trick to disapear are only to fools.they use our primitive thinking to have life were they can practise the desired training.any p0hoto of dead castaneda any of those woman and dont began that they find bones and immediatly know!what a joke!that this is wowman named partin!they know before whom to compare DNA test!go home!i am not an idiot!but all the staff castaneda teaches are in 80%unnatural things.only 20 is more or less normal.
supralee 4 years ago 4
carlos had little or nothing to do with their deaths... he died of cancer while they willingly took their own lives
rainmaker11 4 years ago
otherthanfiction is a crazed phyco maniac monster sicko yuky smelling bad very bad dumbdumb hurts peoples feelings fibber jerk i cant stand you i hate you please stop making me hate you kind of a bad person
keep you mouth shut
claritygreen 4 years ago
shut up already, ive read this same comment like three times already,ur an idiot!at least learn how to spell moron.ur not funny either
MadCircle01 4 years ago
"At the heart of Castaneda's movement was a group of intensely devoted women, all of whom were or had been his lovers. They were known as the witches, and two of them,vanished the day after Castaneda's death,A few weeks later, Patricia Partin, Castaneda's adopted daughter as well as his lover, also disappeared. In February 2006, a skeleton found in Death Valley, Calif., was identified through DNA analysis as Partin's."-From a Salon article on Carlos Castanada "The Godfather of the New Age".
snarltiggs 4 years ago 3
I see dead people...
darksilence357 4 years ago
i wonder what's the "not-doing" of a suicide cult...
zionplay 4 years ago 18
hahaha
peyotero22 3 years ago 3
they found nuri alexander's skeleton in death valley 3 years after she blew her brains out
power106bigboy 4 years ago