Facebook has NO incentive to join OpenSocial - developers will automatically build for Facebook regardless because of the popularity and consumer reach. Facebook only loses by joining OpenSocial. Google gains by opening up a proprietary system and figuring out a way to tap into ad revenue. GSB
cuba has no incentive to join usa people will automatically want to live in cube regardless becouse of it popularity and economy. cuba only looses by joining the free world. america gains by opening up a dictatorship and figuring out a way to screw the rest of the world. can you sense the sarcasm buddy
When Google Video failed to get traction & was unable to beat Youtube, they simply bought the latter.
Google would have liked to buy Facebook - but it wasn't for sale and microsoft beat them in the courtship. So, OpenSocial is a "if we can't be the #1 player and if we can't buy it, then we'll make sure nobody owns this" move.
this is really not an intimate environment. I love google, but they're better developers than actors. In my dreams, google masters the art of remote intimacy, outside of the search engine.
Thanks for the video, I'm really excited about open social... But this series of videos (and most of googles videos) is not as carefully planned as google's products.
the speech seems really recited and forced. I'm sorry, its a good speech and what it conveys is good, but its something ive noticed about google speeches, very very re-hearsed and it doesnt seem natural
The voices they put on make me want to NOT use it. Sounds like an infomercial for the supersweeper. Give me facts not some over blown public speaking voice.
No real info in this video, the ilike demo was nice tho.
One interesting thing about all these websites having one common API: it doesn't just make it easier to develop k3wl w1dg3tz. It makes the sites easier to *crawl*, MAKING SEMANTIC SENSE OF IT. Aha, Google, aha. No need to write a custom screen-scraper for each site, in order to extract relationships.
so um, if this is directed at developers, why wouldn't they just publish the docs - OH YEAH< THEY DID -- so why can't I stop watching this? I dunno maybe because it's so booring?
while i'm searching, there's gotta be a better resolution than Crappy Youtube size. it's tough to follow along with any code thrown up in the video. for it looks like throwup.
This is a great start to taking down the walled gardens so many sites have built around themselves. Although Facebook introduced a platform, you still have to develop applications to work within Facebook - a limitation to the whole Open and Distributed concept. I think it would be better if more social applications were introduced like Kickapps, in2community, and Ning, where you can create a social application without needing a development background or capital to do it.
Sounds good to be true, cause there are many social network companies around that cared about only popularity until today. Now this may extend the way we see web. RSS already played a big role in the "Content outside a webpage" movie. Now functionality is also getting out of regular pages.
Techincally, I wish they got a DomQuery parser inside istead of byId() and whatever...
Very interesting and exciting. A new demension of the world/internet. More connecting... more information closer to efficiency in polotics, shopping, hopes, how to ... communication to the power of 10.
I want to adopt Open Social with my web site as fast as possible.
Some of the cleverest minds on the planet... Try doing the meeting indoors on a chilly evening instead of dragging all your electronics, chairs, cameras outside in the cold damp air!! ;o)
very cool actually - not so excited for the widgets really, i find a lot of the smaller ones quite annoying, but excited to see this step in the Web 2.0 development, potential for sharing information, potential value added to users, and accelerated growth of communication when people work together.
I'd hoped this was going to be bigger than facebook. It looks like we'll end up with 15 facebook look a likes, all with the same functionality, just different databases. The demos look awful, the applications are disjointed from the containing sites. It needs APIs for gui tools like tabs & colours. The canvas pages didn't even fit the sites. I'm so far disappointed with how open social is shaping up. Once the novelty of website applications, fun walls & pokes wear-off, this will be obsolete.
in my opinion this is mostly intended for beginers because a real developer would write his code in such a way that he could re-use it evrey time he needs to ... also I think that in such things you must know how to fullfill some needs because the part of programing doesn't look so hard ... judjing by the things the sites that were shown, have ... I on my own am capable of doing such things ... not in a second not in two ... but in a short while
Pitty that "real developer" doesn't have access to the social sites friends database etc without spidering it. You missed what this actually does. Not to mention your "real developer" would need to write a friend spider and port of their software for each social community. About 2000% more work.
true .... the thing is that I was getting bored so I jumped to some parts of the video .... I just watched a litle more of it ... but still .... it's only an interface .... nothing more .... yes there are a lot of api's out there .... but it's not like you have to reprogram the thing for each user .... yes it's easyer with evereything standart from the one who made the thing .... but that does not mean that it is imposible, or hard to do with a team behind you. that's whyI think it's not so hot
How come I get a funny feeling that all this stuff we today call "Social Networking" has been around since "Friend Finders" and other dating sites? mmm...
Corporate RA RA session. The folks in the audience are rolling their eyes right now. Saying.... please Calgon, take me away, make this man shut the hell up!
I have to say the whole concept of a "campfire" setting with the tree stumps, etc, was a reeeaally lame. When do we get to sing kumbaya?!? People at Google seem so desperate to keep coming up with new ideas that they really churn out some grade-A crap. How quickly they seem to be digressing into their rival, Microsoft ;-)
It seems deliberate - google may have published more search engine friendly documentation and google would have to keep recutting video to update the technology.
the stuff is cool. But who is this disgusting chap on behalf of google. I wished i could turn off volume and see subtitles. Looks like he rehearsed this a dozen times before. I managed better voice modulation in my primary school debate events.
the stuff is cool. But who is this disgusting chap on behalf of google. I wished i could turn off volume and see subtitles. Looks like he rehearsed this a dozen times before. I managed better voice modulation in my primary school debate events.
Yeah I laughted my head off at that comment about myspace. I guess when they called their CSS classes whitetext15 and then promptly changed it to 18 blue text :-) That was them making it easy for users to customise :-D
Or when they sued all the companies that help u customise their poor CSS.
Or when they wrote the bloody thing in an amateurs language for people who don't know code.
MySpace is about the worst bit of software ever developed. But oh so lucky.
um... the country music intro, live smoldering fire, tree log stump, and vic's sweater really contribute a lot to this experience... not.
i agree with dydimustk: presenting the info in a non-staged manner will go a lot further towards making me believe you're not just selling me something.
Buddy, you gotta work on your delivery... you seem posed, and fake, and disingenuous. These ideas are far too interesting and powerful to communicated in a way that looks like a PSA during a Hallmark Special.
No, no, no! This isn't at all a facebook killer (unless they decide NOT to implement OpenSocial, of course). This just makes it easier for developers to write apps that run elsewhere. Facebook would still exist as the 'container' which provides the social graph.
Assuming Facebook opens up to OS, it won't kill them, but because OS allows developers to provide good content to (virtually) all social networks at once, end users are less likely to be attracted to Facebook because the same cool apps that Facebook offers are available everywhere else too. So, no, it won't kill Facebook, but it could slow its growth.
But people don't join Facebook for the apps. People join Facebook for the social graph, i.e. because their friends are on there. OpenSocial doesn't change that.
Would be nice to see P3P xml being shared amongst sites to control access for a user. Don't want to see a million prompts as data starts to cross these sites more and more.
Really cool cool cool.
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Open social has been oh so cool!
JustinBieberBabyTv 3 months ago
thanks for this channel
michaelpousti 4 months ago
Can u provide a text based tutorial link to what David Glazer presented, particulary the coding materials? mny thanks
lakc24 8 months ago
"hi5 has text comments"........LMAO.......they r soo obsolete now!
awuahnsiah 9 months ago
i can´t see nothing... its is much embassed
dentimxis 1 year ago
the whole "campfire" theme looks a little too fake, geeks.
meowman9 1 year ago
too bad that we cannot see the acual code
dpatulea 2 years ago
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wat the fuck? r u a homo
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placewar 3 years ago
Facebook has NO incentive to join OpenSocial - developers will automatically build for Facebook regardless because of the popularity and consumer reach. Facebook only loses by joining OpenSocial. Google gains by opening up a proprietary system and figuring out a way to tap into ad revenue. GSB
mshasan 3 years ago
cuba has no incentive to join usa people will automatically want to live in cube regardless becouse of it popularity and economy. cuba only looses by joining the free world. america gains by opening up a dictatorship and figuring out a way to screw the rest of the world. can you sense the sarcasm buddy
paranoidboytoy 3 years ago
Youtube Fulltilt Englisch LIFETIME
Parabolspiegel4 3 years ago
me thinking...
independent from 'social network owners' space is achieved by applications using this API.
next step,
'biggest ads company' offers creators (anyone) % of income from ads viewed in applications.
...times are comming where being a small targeted social network will be an adventage.
sauax 3 years ago
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i was looking for how to be social with people like how to talk to people make a conversation!
DAMNIT GEEKS!
Psykl0pz 4 years ago
"How to Win Friends & Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. Terrible title but good book.
BeastInTheEast 4 years ago
When Google Video failed to get traction & was unable to beat Youtube, they simply bought the latter.
Google would have liked to buy Facebook - but it wasn't for sale and microsoft beat them in the courtship. So, OpenSocial is a "if we can't be the #1 player and if we can't buy it, then we'll make sure nobody owns this" move.
BeastInTheEast 4 years ago 3
Not really. Social networks can be very valuable platforms. If facebook is very popular developers are forced to distribute only through them.
Google has destroyed a monopoly before it happened.
Facebook I hope you open up too.
0Bacchus1 4 years ago
I enjoyed the "I Like Turtles" kid cameo.
buzfortuna 4 years ago
My friends- you are catching a glimpse into a new transition into the future.
Communication will be done through OpenSocial or some standardized format. Google is on top of it.
whogivesajack 4 years ago
XSS galore, anybody?
jackmosley06 4 years ago
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Google will rock.. Any other framework by any of Google's competitors? Otherwise Google is gonna have a monopoly..
rkgroups 4 years ago
This is an open framework. It can't be a monopoly.
0Bacchus1 4 years ago 2
this is really not an intimate environment. I love google, but they're better developers than actors. In my dreams, google masters the art of remote intimacy, outside of the search engine.
Thanks for the video, I'm really excited about open social... But this series of videos (and most of googles videos) is not as carefully planned as google's products.
moncrey 4 years ago
the speech seems really recited and forced. I'm sorry, its a good speech and what it conveys is good, but its something ive noticed about google speeches, very very re-hearsed and it doesnt seem natural
JadedStoicism 4 years ago
why can't I find anywhere to download this video?
TwistedChaz 4 years ago
The voices they put on make me want to NOT use it. Sounds like an infomercial for the supersweeper. Give me facts not some over blown public speaking voice.
No real info in this video, the ilike demo was nice tho.
-Ben
INCYDEMETAL 4 years ago 2
keep it up Google!
DamonACook 4 years ago
What a Marketing Machine!!!!!!!!
md5577 4 years ago
and how come i don't get 50 mins of video on my account?
jbsmith86 4 years ago
One interesting thing about all these websites having one common API: it doesn't just make it easier to develop k3wl w1dg3tz. It makes the sites easier to *crawl*, MAKING SEMANTIC SENSE OF IT. Aha, Google, aha. No need to write a custom screen-scraper for each site, in order to extract relationships.
zapitron 4 years ago 2
so um, if this is directed at developers, why wouldn't they just publish the docs - OH YEAH< THEY DID -- so why can't I stop watching this? I dunno maybe because it's so booring?
supergobblin 4 years ago
hahahahhahaha
awesome
Netuser1 4 years ago
its the indian mr. rogers
johnstance 4 years ago
hahaha, pure comedy!
mshasan 3 years ago 2
we´ll see if this tops facebook... if it doesnt, it could be considered google´s first big failure..at least in my book
iarohi 4 years ago
while i'm searching, there's gotta be a better resolution than Crappy Youtube size. it's tough to follow along with any code thrown up in the video. for it looks like throwup.
jonmmadison 4 years ago
This is a great start to taking down the walled gardens so many sites have built around themselves. Although Facebook introduced a platform, you still have to develop applications to work within Facebook - a limitation to the whole Open and Distributed concept. I think it would be better if more social applications were introduced like Kickapps, in2community, and Ning, where you can create a social application without needing a development background or capital to do it.
in2PM 4 years ago
Incredible, amazing and awe-inspiring! This is the future. Thank you Google.
elpresidio 4 years ago
This is great, i will learn more about in this weekend and think about some good apps for orkut. I already have some ideas...
thanks for the inspiration! (:
fazzadielle 4 years ago
ummm I thought XML was suppose to be this middle layer that everyone would be able to work through...
seandakid 4 years ago
anyone else wack off to his video?
rajeshj 4 years ago
hahahahaha....
Netuser1 4 years ago
facebook 15 billion valuation?? lol PWN3D !!!
rajeshj 4 years ago
Sounds good to be true, cause there are many social network companies around that cared about only popularity until today. Now this may extend the way we see web. RSS already played a big role in the "Content outside a webpage" movie. Now functionality is also getting out of regular pages.
Techincally, I wish they got a DomQuery parser inside istead of byId() and whatever...
burcudogan 4 years ago
Very interesting and exciting. A new demension of the world/internet. More connecting... more information closer to efficiency in polotics, shopping, hopes, how to ... communication to the power of 10.
I want to adopt Open Social with my web site as fast as possible.
ErnieRMC 4 years ago
pq soh o google pode ter um video de uma hr de duracao? tambem dei lucro pra vcs, qro 1hr no meu youtube ;x
entrevistador 4 years ago
Is there a higher resolution video of this?!?! can't see anything of the code!
onlyrey 4 years ago 2
até deu pra intentender mas uma legenda ajudaria
uahsh
leonardops55 4 years ago
eu num preciso ler a legenda hahuauahahua
fbberg 4 years ago
Também queria legenda!!!
danizinhamb 4 years ago
Pt-BR subtitle, please!
Hahaha
geraldosw 4 years ago
Some of the cleverest minds on the planet... Try doing the meeting indoors on a chilly evening instead of dragging all your electronics, chairs, cameras outside in the cold damp air!! ;o)
lotteryjerk 4 years ago 3
great so now all pages will look the same... except, I still have to log on to 5 diff sites to have the same ilike list?
haydenchambers 4 years ago
very cool actually - not so excited for the widgets really, i find a lot of the smaller ones quite annoying, but excited to see this step in the Web 2.0 development, potential for sharing information, potential value added to users, and accelerated growth of communication when people work together.
creality 4 years ago 2
I'd hoped this was going to be bigger than facebook. It looks like we'll end up with 15 facebook look a likes, all with the same functionality, just different databases. The demos look awful, the applications are disjointed from the containing sites. It needs APIs for gui tools like tabs & colours. The canvas pages didn't even fit the sites. I'm so far disappointed with how open social is shaping up. Once the novelty of website applications, fun walls & pokes wear-off, this will be obsolete.
jimmyforrester 4 years ago
in my opinion this is mostly intended for beginers because a real developer would write his code in such a way that he could re-use it evrey time he needs to ... also I think that in such things you must know how to fullfill some needs because the part of programing doesn't look so hard ... judjing by the things the sites that were shown, have ... I on my own am capable of doing such things ... not in a second not in two ... but in a short while
roscin 4 years ago
Pitty that "real developer" doesn't have access to the social sites friends database etc without spidering it. You missed what this actually does. Not to mention your "real developer" would need to write a friend spider and port of their software for each social community. About 2000% more work.
-Ben
INCYDEMETAL 4 years ago
true .... the thing is that I was getting bored so I jumped to some parts of the video .... I just watched a litle more of it ... but still .... it's only an interface .... nothing more .... yes there are a lot of api's out there .... but it's not like you have to reprogram the thing for each user .... yes it's easyer with evereything standart from the one who made the thing .... but that does not mean that it is imposible, or hard to do with a team behind you. that's whyI think it's not so hot
roscin 3 years ago
How come I get a funny feeling that all this stuff we today call "Social Networking" has been around since "Friend Finders" and other dating sites? mmm...
CleanBlackRaiser 4 years ago
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Goddamn PR stunt. Stop this crap, reduce global warming!
Perisona 4 years ago
Corporate RA RA session. The folks in the audience are rolling their eyes right now. Saying.... please Calgon, take me away, make this man shut the hell up!
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phatVision 4 years ago
When I listen to this I feel double talk bile boiling up my throat.
quexalcoatl 4 years ago
this is great 'n all, but will any of this make it easier for me to find p0rn?
powerplants 4 years ago 4
If pornographers use it to build apps for social networks, yes. ;)
mikeabundo 4 years ago
hahahaha awesome comment...
Netuser1 4 years ago
Rip microsoft, all microsoft can come with is shitty visata and the blue screen
prass7 4 years ago
Wow, this sounds so Microsoft-y it's scary.
digx 4 years ago
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This is the gayest thing I've ever seen
Envenom28 4 years ago
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campfire one. well i mean why????
was it so discomforting to do dis in a closed room. I mean how lame you wanna make it :p
Ah its G. Its God. Lol. Otherwise a very nice convcept. Liked it!
crashuniverse 4 years ago
Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!
yuutokun 4 years ago 14
Ballmer shouts it, but Google *does* it. ;)
mikeabundo 4 years ago 7
I have to say the whole concept of a "campfire" setting with the tree stumps, etc, was a reeeaally lame. When do we get to sing kumbaya?!? People at Google seem so desperate to keep coming up with new ideas that they really churn out some grade-A crap. How quickly they seem to be digressing into their rival, Microsoft ;-)
krisoye 4 years ago
Wow, what a warm corporate indoctrination. It makes this philosopher ill watching it.
Tiberius2027 4 years ago
Probably not the best guy to be presenting this...
charlieok 4 years ago
probably not great news for facebook, but everyone else should be happy
BTape 4 years ago 6
hmm why does this clip have a smell of religious meetup?
jugzter 4 years ago 9
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Because Google is God.
mikeabundo 4 years ago
Awesome dialogue here hahahahahaha
Netuser1 4 years ago
the qualit of the video is really bad! I cannot see the code !
kikobiko 4 years ago 4
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Try fullscreen.
mikeabundo 4 years ago
oh dear I guess its RTM time
nzblues 4 years ago
Cool video but the encoding rate makes the source code unreadable. Can you re-encode it so that we can read the example code on the screen?
Best, Brad Neuberg
BradNeuberg 4 years ago 11
really, what is the point if you can't read the code. Where can we download a higher resolution version?
joelklabo 4 years ago 4
It seems deliberate - google may have published more search engine friendly documentation and google would have to keep recutting video to update the technology.
nzblues 4 years ago
Stoked to see the goods on OpenSocial!
(ignoring the props for which I'm guessing someone has taken lots of heat already!)
blakestar 4 years ago 3
MOLTO STRANAMENTE, a Google è permesso caricare filmati di 1 ora, mentre a noi merde di utenti no!
giancy93 4 years ago
57:52?
You was being the download per 3 years all right?
PES1995 4 years ago
WTF?! It's like a cheesy infomercial or timeshare presentation.
newtman42 4 years ago
This is huge! I thought facebook was going to wipe outa few other social networks but I'm thinking differently now.
snapfamily 4 years ago 8
the stuff is cool. But who is this disgusting chap on behalf of google. I wished i could turn off volume and see subtitles. Looks like he rehearsed this a dozen times before. I managed better voice modulation in my primary school debate events.
pramukh123 4 years ago
yes it sucks lol.... its like watching a dead fish having sex
rajeshj 4 years ago
the stuff is cool. But who is this disgusting chap on behalf of google. I wished i could turn off volume and see subtitles. Looks like he rehearsed this a dozen times before. I managed better voice modulation in my primary school debate events.
pramukh123 4 years ago
This is the coolest thing to happen since Friendster introduced social networking.
bendavistv 4 years ago 3
That's the power of Google. While Microsoft throws money at problems ($240M for 1.6% of Facebook), Google throws their brains at problems.
mikeabundo 4 years ago 17
Wow, they did get MySpace? I guess the rumors were legit.
"Myspace has always been about being open."
I don't know Aber I've never really viewed you guys as a pillar of extensibility.
qicboy 4 years ago 3
Yeah I laughted my head off at that comment about myspace. I guess when they called their CSS classes whitetext15 and then promptly changed it to 18 blue text :-) That was them making it easy for users to customise :-D
Or when they sued all the companies that help u customise their poor CSS.
Or when they wrote the bloody thing in an amateurs language for people who don't know code.
MySpace is about the worst bit of software ever developed. But oh so lucky.
-Ben
INCYDEMETAL 4 years ago
um... the country music intro, live smoldering fire, tree log stump, and vic's sweater really contribute a lot to this experience... not.
i agree with dydimustk: presenting the info in a non-staged manner will go a lot further towards making me believe you're not just selling me something.
let the code speak for itself.
500hats 4 years ago 6
Great stuff but that guy sounds like a politician, I can hardly stand to hear him speak .
wmerydith 4 years ago 13
Buddy, you gotta work on your delivery... you seem posed, and fake, and disingenuous. These ideas are far too interesting and powerful to communicated in a way that looks like a PSA during a Hallmark Special.
dydimustk 4 years ago 11
Transitions aside, this is very exciting!
dydimustk 4 years ago
Great stuff!! I'm starting today to incorporate this into my social website.
lazygirlsinfo 4 years ago
great development :)
dexonicmans 4 years ago
No, no, no! This isn't at all a facebook killer (unless they decide NOT to implement OpenSocial, of course). This just makes it easier for developers to write apps that run elsewhere. Facebook would still exist as the 'container' which provides the social graph.
cle0medes 4 years ago
Assuming Facebook opens up to OS, it won't kill them, but because OS allows developers to provide good content to (virtually) all social networks at once, end users are less likely to be attracted to Facebook because the same cool apps that Facebook offers are available everywhere else too. So, no, it won't kill Facebook, but it could slow its growth.
willfjohnston 4 years ago
But people don't join Facebook for the apps. People join Facebook for the social graph, i.e. because their friends are on there. OpenSocial doesn't change that.
cle0medes 4 years ago
microsoft doesnt have a chance by buying facebook!
Stevemasta3000 4 years ago
Seriously, it's 1969 all over again folks. This is huge.
bariswheel 4 years ago 4
Would be nice to see P3P xml being shared amongst sites to control access for a user. Don't want to see a million prompts as data starts to cross these sites more and more.
weblivz 4 years ago
The Open Social website went live a few hours ago. I watched this video there. Pretty cool stuff!
KennyWrites 4 years ago
:-)
mosesofmason2 4 years ago
good :D
lawebdelmaestro 4 years ago
This will change the internet!
melonkernel 4 years ago 2
Open Social is going to consume Search. No need to look up answers when you're connected to the answers via the Social Graph.
zeroinfluencer 4 years ago 3
zeroinfluencer, you are right. Do you have a blog? Are you a developer?
dalex7777 4 years ago
A developer of sorts...
Blog is at zeroinfluence[dot]wordpress[dot]com
zeroinfluencer 4 years ago
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stop spamming asshole !
rajeshj 4 years ago
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A developer of sorts..
zeroinfluence [dot] wordpress [dot] com
zeroinfluencer 4 years ago
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A developer of sorts..
zeroinfluence [dot] wordpress [dot] com
zeroinfluencer 4 years ago
grrrr. how to reply to a reply on youtube? Sorry about the multiple posts.
zeroinfluencer 4 years ago
I am looking forward to all the great things that will come from OpenSocial!
mikerips 4 years ago 2
this is pretty interesting stuff!
tiggerbear3 4 years ago
AWESOME. OpenSocial kills Facebook!
zackwolk 4 years ago
I never knew google had so many fun events! =]
scottwatt47 4 years ago