my fathers hydrogen fuel cell

[zakattakattakk]

That's I'll frum englund

[dennishubert]

So untill someone can run their engine off the hho that there producing with only the electric from their alternator (no batteries) powering their hho production an no external fuel sources Then I won't buy it

[dennishubert]

Ok first off. You need way more energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen than you will ever get in return from burning the hydrogen a oxygen. I havnt tested any of these devices myself.  But perhaps a small increase in mpg could be seen because the additional o2 helps a poorly tuned engine with some clogged ass air filter to actually breathe. All the electricity to split the water comes from your alternator. But it's not free. It takes about 5 hp to spin up that alternator. So untill

[dunn98632]

Only problem with this is I am still inputing from my fuel pump and carberator being a gas engine and not diesel :the same amount of fuel cunsumption hence probley using the same amount of fuel as before. what we need to do is completely convert the car to hydrogen in order to acutally make a real deal here and you know what it is completly possible .

[toyu17]

umm dumb question, what car part do you acyually connet it to?????

[MrRuzo214]

how many liters per minute of hho gas do people recommend me to inject into a V8 6.2 liter engine ?

[sentientagent]

NAAAAAHHHHH STOP USING THESE THINGS AND BUY MY OIL!

next thing you know i'm gonna have to sell my 747 and fly first class on a public airline.

[ozkargringo]

una pregunta:

tienes que usar gas  ademas del hidrogeno o solo funciona con hidrogeno???

[routerboxie]

@ozkargringo solamente neccesito suficiente hidrogeno, pero esto es el pregunto... Si puede producir sufficiente hidrogeno.

[VAP0RELETRIC0]

What's up?

I'm from Brasil.

Cool! your cells.

Have a look at my generator that I posted in my channel a lot hydrogen production.

project Vapor elétrico

[gcoder72]

It has nothing to do with the ECU air/fuel mix ratio with the mass air flow sensor. It basicly creates a better burn thus needing less throttle. 87 octane verses 94 octane, wich one do you think burns better? now take the GOOD+HHO=More power=less fuel consumption. I use 12 amps and i loose about 1/2 mile per gallon but I gain 7 miles per gallon. Back to the ECU naysayers, your right. The engine still uses the same amount of fuel for a given throtle position. only thing is you dont need as much.

[uraldneprvw]

I believe that people who fit HHO generators achieve the increase in mg simply by driving better. Once the idea of saving fuel has entered the person's mind then the driving style alters, regular checking of tyre pressures, clean air filter, braking less by looking ahead at the traffic, less rapid acceleration etc. All these things will increase the mpg. Also how scientifically is the data collected? No-one likes the idea of wasting time + money+ so will believe despite all contrary information.

[uraldneprvw]

Multiply engine size by, say, 2000 rpm (pretty average engine speed) + work out how much air is sucked into the engine per second. Then work out HHO produced per second + work out the % of HHO to air intake. It's very small. I ran 11000 miles in 9 months with 3 HHO generators. There was no difference in mpg! If it really worked, the tickover would increase. HHO is explosive but 0.03% in the air intake is not gonna make any difference. I doubt your claims of 2 litres a minute. Can u prove it?

[cris23dumi]

ppl we are humans damn it how can u forget that youtube its not made for south africa or romania ?

[ShaneVanV]

Hydrogen on demand works. I have 5 units from IHS and the worst report that I am getting off of my truck is 22% fuel savings. I hope that someone will come up with a system for cars soon that will totally stop the use of gas. I have the 5 units on transport trucks, running every day and have had no hydrogen system breakdowns at all. There was no reprogramming of the computer to make the system work. Good job on the video. HOpe you save a ton on fuel.

[porscheghcje]

The Oil companies are trying their best to stop free energy ideas from spreading to common ppl.

We need to put an end to this corruption ,start generating your own electricity.

Look for the LT MAGNET MOTOR in youtube video search. Join the Revolution!!

[urbex2007]

They don't do what people claim. Unless you adjust the ECU to inject less diesel it will still use the same amount - I dont see anything about reprogramming the ECU or any connection to it. Put too much in and the diesel will not ignite. It's funny people claiming to know so much know very little about how a basic engine works. It's like fuel additives, they don't give any extra MPG. Shell advertise one now and it is no different. If YOU want to believe something that's OK, just don't lie to us

[oooblyahba]

To the nay sayers, understand where the "exra" energy comes from, i.c. engines usually convert about 20% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy. adding hho greatly increases the gasolines combustion efficiency, allowing the i.c.e. to convert about 30% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy.....hmmm that would be an increase of approx 50 percent in mpg, Do your research with that in mind.....

[urbex2007]

@oooblyahba WRONG! This kit does not monitor combustion efficiency and does not tell the ECU to reduce the amount of diesel being injected in to each cylinder. The only way to save fuel is to inject LESS DIESEL. The ECU doesn't know about hydrogen so keeps injecting the same amount of diesel which means *NO SAVING*. The load on the alternator slows the car down, so MORE FUEL is being used anyway. Don't be fooled by people who lie to sell kits, think for yourself and learn about engines.

[moviejacker]

This system is an additive to the existing fuel. I agree that you need to produce enough to make it worth your while. However , I disagree that is takes less power

to produce what it actually power output. 20+ amps/hour to produce 2 litres minute.

20amperes x 60 min = 1200amp in hour (1.2kAh) . 120 litres/h. extra electricity generation required such as a larger alternator and some other souces ie solar cell small wind turbines over the radiator. Convert a radiator fan to make12v dc. :-X

[penetrus]

Dont be funny. That small cell you can put in you ass.

[wangouthangout]

It's not running of the hydrogen it's mixing it with the fuel to increase efficiency of combustion. It's basically getting more out of the fuel that's already there. Or that's the idea. It's a different idea altogether. Yeah Knineu02 sounds like a bit of a tard alright.

[urbex2007]

@wangouthangout The same amount of fuel is being injected whether or not someone puts hydrogen in the air intake. So the same amount of fuel means the same economy. The only way to have greater economy is to tell the ECU to inject fuel in proportion to gas, so less fuel would be used. This would make the engine run rough. Not one person has considered this basic fact, that is why the kits on sale are a complete con. People selling them lie to get a sale from gullible people like you.

[Arcady89c]

Let's try again...

I think whether it works or not is fairly obvious. You're taking the extra power from the alternator and using it to break water into hydrogen and oxygen which will burn and decrease gasoline consumption. In comparing this to Stan Meyers device, I think he was doing something else with the power, though I don't know what. But he did have some sort of control box and I wouldn't be surprised to learn he was manipulating the wave patterns to get better results.

[Arcady89c]

I played around with electrolysis myself and I found that the material I was using (stainless steel rods) would corrode quite rapidly. When that happens it gets really hot and takes a lot more power to operate. The reason of course is that the corrosion adds resistance. I can't really tell if that's happening here or not though. To fix that problem though you will need to find a conductor that does not corrode such as carbon rods or precious metals.

In either case, nice work and good luck!

[urbex2007]

@Arcady89c WRONG, nothing is telling the ECU to inject less fuel, so economy remains the same whether you put gas or additives in. Understand that most basic fact and you will soon understand why kits like this do absolutely nothing of benefit.

The SAME amount of fuel is being used, not less as nothing is telling the engine to use less. Why can't people understand that? Is it really that difficult to understand how an engine and ECU works? People selling kits WILL lie to sell them to fools!

[shambles9]

Hydrogen fuel cells CONSUME hydrogen and creates electricity.

What you have here is the opposite, it consumes electricity and PRODUCES hydrogen. It's the exact opposite.

[knineu02]

If this actually worked, why not just build a generator that runs on the gas to create the electricity needed to create the gas. I mean, If you get more energy out of it then it uses, it would work. BUT since that violates laws of physics, it does nothing for you at all. This system DOES NOT WORK people, do not waste your time on it.

Someone suggested solar powered electrolyzer, that has merit, just not on a car. The extra weight would just be using up the added fuel.

[hydrodaf]

Ok, some people think it does not work, for me the design i used it worked, it does has problems with overheating on the cell/generator (what ever you want to call it), mainly if its left on for more than 20 miles in hot weather, but the figures i got are correct.

i would say try it and see for yourself, but dont condem them on the sayso of others who have not tested them, dont let others do your thinking for you, if you have not tested one to prove they dont work you have no right to condem.

[knineu02]

In order for this thing to improve your mileage, it would have to produce more energy than it uses. That cannot happen with this device. If it could, you should just build a generator to power your house. You also assume that some of us have not seen or tested these. I have. THEY FAIL. You cannot get more energy then you use. The electricity used to create the gas is a drain on your engine. Your alternator does not produce "extra" power.

[dineshautomech]

me too working on this as my engineering project may u help me in giving the power input and the electrode used

[urbex2007]

@hydrodaf to save diesel and use less, you would need to tell the ECU to inject less or lower the fuel pressure - how did your unit do this? If you say it doesn't and you didn't then it's all in your head.

You're probably the easily led gullible type who doesn't even know how a basic engine functions!

It's almost as bad as boy racers confusing noise with power when all it shows is restriction. You can con most people due to their lack of knowledge, that's why people make money out of you...

[knineu02]

It will put a load on the engine and this doesn't even take into account the FACT that energy conversion causes a decrease in the energy.

[hydrodaf]

Yes its a drain on the alternator, it gets quite hot. What they do is make a small amount of hydrogen that goes into the air intake, thats enough to enhance the burn efficiency of the diesel/air mix in the combustion chamber.

To get the fuel saving you need at least 1.8 litres per minute of gas from the generator, coffee jar designs on the net produce very little, we tested one of those and got no extra mpg, but on my own design producing 2 litres per min it worked.

[hydrodaf]

I am an electric/mechanical engineer, my father is 40 years in the oil industry (ex BP and Philips Petroleum chief super intendant, the top guy at oil refinerys), we are not idiots, ours works, some dont as they dont make enough gas.

Im afraid thats the last reply anyone will get on the subject; believe me or not it makes no difference to me, I AM getting the savings I claim!

To those who want to have a go I say try it and make up your own mind.

[knineu02]

Do you have any evidence that it works other than "I AM getting the savings I claim!"? Get some real lab results from real scientists and I might become persuaded. Until then, I don't see it producing the savings that you are claiming.

[MacsCanfly]

knineu02 your a fucking idiot

[knineu02]

@MacsCanfly See here folks! When you have no substantive response, you jump into comments like "your a fucking idiot." Well at least I know how to spell "you're" the correct way when used in this context. These alternator--to HHO generator--to air intake systems--have been thoroughly debunked. The concept has been around for hundreds of years and if it was remotely possible for this to do the things these morons claim, then they would already be in cars. Your comments, MacsCanfly, confirm this.

[enwelz]

@knineu02 I agree with you, except "hundreds of years" might be a little bit of an exageration

[urbex2007]

@MacsCanfly I think you're the idiot from not understanding how an engine works and how the ECU controls the fuel being used - not a coffee jar producing bubbles of hydrogen. You show me one person that has used the ECU to inject fuel in proportion to the amount of gas being injected and one car that adjusts fuelling in proportion. I'll wait forever! Same amount of fuel = same economy. Now go and look at how engines and ECUs work. People selling kits WILL LIE to get a sale from gullible people

[hydrodaf]

@urbex2007 MY CAR HAS NO ECU!!!

The diesel injector pump on my car is mechanical!

Adding hydrogen/oxygen from the gas generator to the air/diesel mix makes the diesel burn more efficiently, because fuel burns better it gives more power from the same amount of diesel you don’t need as much throttle hence the fuel saving. I'm not trying to sell anything, I've spent a lot of time playing with my this and it works, if it did not I’d just tell others not to waste their time, but mine works.

[urbex2007]

@knineu02 I agree it doesn't work, but a whole new sales industry has sprouted from this - so people claiming it works will soon want to sell kits! Very dishonest of them. Not one person has told the ECU to use less diesel, injecting hydrogen will decrease oxygen going in and upset the ECU so it will inject MORE diesel. That in turn gives an exhaust gas fault. People only lie about it working so they don't look stupid and so they can sell products. It DOES NOT WORK and we all know it!!!

[GateMessenger]

@knineu02 How much energy does it take to turn oil into gasoline? More than the energy required to turn water into hydrogen. Then why does it not work?

[juki0h]

@knineu02 and your probably the one that says we never been to the moon. lol. if we can go to the moon, surely we can build a hydrogen fuel cell

[billyboy385]

@knineu02 i've heard of cars running only off of hydrogen like this, the question is.. why dont you see it everyday or at all?

[6tortured6soul6]

@knineu02 How much do you think a solar panel weighs? Its actually less than you spare tire. You can do a weight reduction to compensate for the extra weight.

[xBloodXGusherx]

Loool. "And that's all from england" Love that line.

[AnimePlanet7]

Hydrogen can indeed run a car...but these devices can't give you cold hard numbers! How much gas do they save? How much mileage do they add to your car? People who sell these can't give you hard numbers! And if they do...ask for proof. (there is none) If these things are sooo incredible why can't you run your entire car off of them...and elimnate gas completely? Oh, I forgot...you can't run your car on lies and a bogus device! Brown's gas...LOL! That's oxidized metal in the water dummy! Wake UP

[americanstylefreak]

sounds like a four cylinder diesel.

[hydrohobbyist]

thats an electrolyser, not a FUEL CELL

[stephenswickedcool]

The question is, what does this do to the engine.

[Darkfoster22]

Stainless steel has Chromium (VI) compounds

and Your HHO generator pulls Chromium off the steel.So you have Chromium (VI)in the water and you get oxidation state from the + electrodes.Thats call (Hexavalent chromium) That can kill you... Wach out

[drew999999999]

Hmm... interesting... So you could theoretically gain another 45 or 46 mpg just by unbelting your alternator... that's awesome man! BMW was only able to milk 4% out of it with intelligent alternator control and that included regenerative braking!! You should go work for them, cause what you've hooked up is like 100 times better than the crap they have developed!

[drew99999999]

You have to remember that there is a net loss of energy from the conversion water->HHO. There will also be a significant loss during the combustion to convert back to water. From my research, the aggregate reaction is only approximately 30% efficient, which means you LOSE 70% of whatever energy you put into an HHO generator.

[hydrodaf]

hi,

i am still gaining 9.6 mpg with it on so keeps me happy! LOL.

[drew999999999]

Why doesn't your battery go dead?

[hydrodaf]

thats a strange thing to ask??? the cell uses 25 amps, the alternator produces up to 70 amps, it keeps the battery charged no problem.

[Dragonstud]

run it from a solor charger?...or direct from a pannel

[Dragonstud]

any updates on this ????im thinking of making afew of these and start the big convert to free fuels heheh

[hydrodaf]

hi, check out the results on video no 3.

multi plate design seems to be the best.

[drew999999999]

Ohhh right... the alternator... doesn't that use gas to put that big a load on it??

[captncaveman81]

thought Britainia rules the waves..... maybe now they will be ruling the way to make fuel cells..

[investigate187]

Can't wait to see the diesel results! I have one on a 94 Ford Explorer and have gained 20% average MPG increase but it is using 1 quart water to a tank of gas. See my vids.

[subsonicnat]

Sounds as though we have a truth or bust chap. Well done lad, Cannot wait for your next video, go on burn the 200 miles up, lets see if we are all wasteing our time or is it rally worth building :PS been at it for months, Struggling to build a PWM, but I will get there.

Love the smell of BURNING Components.lol. Still Waiting my friend: UK Man..

[madbillt66]

Flashback arrestor?bubbler?what have you done about eefi & O2 sensors?

Cheers ,good luck have a look at "water van"from UK

[wonderwayner]

Check out how to get around it IF your de-cat your pipe. I think you add some sort of spacer to where the 2 senser/sniffer goes and it makes it think it needs less fuel, cus It will. The hho will make it think it needs more petrol due to the extra O2 going thru the ex-manafold. Wayne