do u know what, believe what u want to believe. it all comes out of the wash. meaning when we die we'll see whose right. if evolution is right then we will see darkness or become ghost when we die. if you believe in creationism, you will go to heaven, and if creationism is right, all evolution belivers will go to hell. go god
People, this "fernieboy100" is a complete retard. Just ignore him, his stupidity knows no limits and his ignorance is as deep as can be. He thinks the sun orbits the Earth... There's nothing you can do. He's just completely, hopelessly retarded.
@xmaneater when you are ready to put your money where your mouth is let me know - i dont think you can debate without panicking and throwing insults - if you think you have a case then state it my friend - you only beleive the earth spins because the science dictatorships taught you that, and you have never been shown anything else - so before you start screaming like a little school girl why don't you come to the plate with a legitamite argument lol
@fernieboy100 And you believe the sun orbits the Earth because "the religion dictatorships taught you that, and you have never been shown anything else". I already told you: the Coriolis effect and Foucault's Pendulum are tangible proofs that the Earth rotates on an axis. I can't believe that in this day and age, with information available everywhere, you still read bronze-age anthologies in a literal way.
@xmaneater Foucaults pendulum only shows the electromagnetic energy that holds the earth in place - the universe is rotating around a stationary earth and that rotating universe is sending electromagnetic energy to the center of the earth - that is why the pendulum always centers itself over and over again - its a centering energy and that pendulum and how it behaves is proof of that. Lightening is caused by arcs when water builds up in the atmosphere -which an air filled insulator
@fernieboy100 I can hardly believe what I'm seeing there... Complete lack of education. None whatsoever. A pendulum has nothing to do with electromagnetism. I just can't... Even when you are throw facts and evidence in the face, you still continue to vomit absolute nonsense. I despise you so much, you have no idea. You are hopeless. Please die. And by the way, you still haven't explained to me how the Coriolis effect is created on a static Earth... I'm anxious to read that...
@xmaneater Have you ever seen one of those little globes that floats in the air - being held by electrostatic energy ? now spray some water near it - there is your lightening. As the sun travels around the earth - some areas of earth are warmer than others - this causes air currents to form - whenever you have both hot and cold air - you can be sure to have movement of air - the hot air goes towards the colder areas and the colder air heads towards the hotter areas - theres the weather system
@fernieboy100 I have nothing more to say to you, poor boy. How can we have a scientific argument when you are so completely scientifically illiterate? It's a shame that you choose to delude yourself with myths of gods, witches and demons in this very century. Information is everywhere. Yet you refuse to seek it. You just ignore it. How can you live with yourself? I sincerely hope you're messing with us here and that you're not serious. Such a shame...
@xmaneater Yes there are myths and legends that are totally false - stories simply made up by men. There are also things that exist but they are invisible to the naked eye - such as an aids virus - a radio signal - oxygen - or wind. We know those things exist because they have evidence - we also know God and Satan are real too based on the evidence we see of them. You can see the spiritual war taking place on a grand scale and we can see what God has created - these things are true - not myths
@xmaneater you are so completely scientifically illiterate? It's a shame that you choose to delude yourself with myths of god.....
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Your delusions that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your claim is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
@SiNgHayStyle Why dont you show us why ? your assertion means nothing - nice try though - but you need to show us why if you can - but guess what ? you can't
I'm a evolutionist and i believe that God doesn't exist BUT hypothetically speaking if he does exist i still believe that i will go to heaven.This is because i have used reason and evidence and more importantly my BRAIN to decipher that God existence is very very slim. "IF" God does exist he will send all us evolutionists to heaven because we "used" what he gave us instead of the ignorant creationists blindly following a book written 3,000 years ago.I know its a odd view but its how i see it.
@MrFluffytoilet You don't know what the bible says - not only that but you don't think creationists use their brain - which is simply not true. Assering creationists are stupid does not make it true.
Not only has evolution been directly observed under laboratory conditions, but so has actual speciation. That's right. Scientists were able to watch a split group of a single organism turn into two separate organisms over time through successive generations. Paired individuals, one from each of the two resulting groups, were no longer able to breed with each other.
Facts always get in the way of a good religious argument. Sorry about that.
@ChipArgyle You are not describing evolution but rather adaptation - this is the thing so many people can/t understand - they can't draw the line between macro - evolution and simple adaptation - the two are not the same thing. For example a st.bernard and a toy poodle are different in many ways but they still remain dogs - just like the bible said - they will produce after their own kind. They change but they also remain dogs the whole time. Sorry but the facts support the bible actually
@fernieboy100 Let me think about this for a second...OK...nope, you're completely "I don't even know the definitions of the words" kind of wrong. Now be a good boy, put down that Bible for a bit, and go read another book. Make it a science book.
That silly book of yours says that God created the Earth before he created light. Earth existed before the sun it orbits did. You understand that, right? And that's just the first mistake of the Bible, less than 200 words into it.
@ChipArgyle Thats not a mistake - thats what happenned. The sun orbits a stationary earth but you want to beleive men instead of Yahweh. It seems you think the creator of the universe does not understand science but I can guarantee he knows a lot more than any human does so this begs the question - who is right ? human beings which are created beings themselves - or the one who created them ? Who do you think is right and who is wrong on these matters ? I guarantee you that he is not wrong
the fact that the earth rotates is proven by the simple fact that if the earth were not spinning the winds would blow from equator to pole, but in the real world they blow at an angle to any given meridian
this effect is caused by the rotation of the earth which pulls the atmosphere around with it
@whitesquirrel7 what happens when a helicopter launchs off the top of a train ? what is observed ? does it keep going the same speed as the train or does it hover above as the train passes beneath it ? this is a good way to check to see if the earth is actually spinning because the exact same forces and laws of physics are at work in both situations - so when a helicopter leaves earth - tell me then why hours later it touches down in the same spot, If you think this through you will see
if their is one thing i hate, is people who say religion is the origin of ethics. if you only do good things because your threatened by a "god", your the real scum of the world. many people say athiest have to ethics because they don't believe in god. i think athiests are people who have morals without being threatened to do so.
@zc630 Being a good citizen is not going to get you into heaven - neither is following your own twisted set of morals - only gods morals are righteous - yours stink lol. Mainly because you allow sins that you enjoy - that is called being self righteous - that is what you are self righteous - deciding what your self deems to be right and wrong.
Not only that fact but as an atheist you think good or evil is subjective - to your own whims and ideas - so since you beleive there is no right or wrong written in stone - you have no right to say what is right or wrong - you cant make any claim to it since you make no stand on it.
@fernieboy100 "you cant make any claim to it since you make no stand on it.">>> You have it completely backwards. You are the one who claims to have no opinion on what is moral. You just stick with "whatever god says goes". You have taken your own voice and experience out of the equation. You are not worth listening to since you have no opinion at all of your own. We, on the other hand, see value in thinking about matters and debating their relevance.
@rrpostalagain You think you know better than God - but heres a wake up call - you don't. Your opinion is nothing more than that - an opinion. You have a one sided biased argument against God and his word - just because YOU say I am not worth listening to does NOT make that true - your assumptions and assertions are never ending - you have nothing solid only empty biased ridiculous claims - you act intelligent but you actually aren't - the fear of God is the beginning of all wisdom -
@ fernieboy100, your the type of useless person who believes the worlds problems is others faults and not your own. grow up, realize your "god" has done nothing "godly" in our time, and see sense.
@zc630 I do beleive the worlds problems are caused by sin - I can't deny that. Think if people did not lie steal kill cheat or covet - it would end a lot of problems for sure. We cannot blame the devil for our bad behaviour. You don't understand the scriptures - if you did you would not act that way and say the things you say.
ok im trying not to troll, but the bible could be three things: 1: the son of god came to earth to convert people to christians, 2: an egotistical guy was born and got lucky off of alot of gulible people, 3: somebody just wrote a fictional story for fun. i am a strong believer in the 3rd.
to HonestMan 395- you are an idiot. I studied religion as an undergrad and biology for my master'sdegree, so you will lose any way you approach this. But just to show you HOW little you know about Christianity,(and I am making a HUGE assumption here that Christian Doctrine is true, just for sake of this argument). You clai m that ANYONE who does evil will be in God's Kingdom.There was only one man without sin-Jesus-we are all sinners, so we ALL commit evil. Yet we can still go to heaven dumbass
@jfoxatlanta If you though I said that anyone who does evil will be in god's kingdom, then you either misinterpreted me, or I did not phrase whatever it was I said clearly enough.
I don't believe anyone will be in god's kingdom, simply because it is just a myth, with no evidence to prove it other than the bible. It is just one of the fanciful stories manufactured from the imagination and superstitions of the ignorant goat herders who wrote the bible, very few of which are real.
@jfoxatlanta By the way, I studied the bible almost as soon as I learned to read. Iwas a dvout christian until I was about 18-19, but I've also studied relevent history from the times of the bible, which Is one of the reasons I am not a christian now.
The christian ETHIC is true, the Christian Doctine is is totall false. Even the bible says so. If you are such a student of the bible, you should know that.
@HonestMan395 where does the bible say that the christian doctrine is off ? and what doctrine are you talking about ? also what "relevent " history are you taking about ? can you show it to us ? so we can see what it is that refuted the bibles accounts ? thanks in advance for providing us with these history records you are speaking of : o
"Random mutations consistently destroy information." P. 15; "Selection cannot rescue the genome." P. 69; "Mutation / selection cannot even create a single gene." P. 123; "All evidence points to human genetic degradation." P.143 - Genetic Entropy & The Mystery of the Genome by Cornell U. Genetics Professor John Sanford. He holds 25 genetic patents and is the inventor of the gene gun. He is truly an expert on the subject of mutations and natural selection. Evolution is a fairy tale for adults.
fernieboy100 is an idiot, and does not deserve his place on Earth. He is a Troll. Don't feed the Troll, please. I tried to reason him, but it seems those kinds of idiots can't deal with reason. Too hard for their retarded brains. DON'T FEED THE TROLL, he'll leave and shut up.
@fernieboy100 There is no debate. There's the truth on one side, and you on the other side, living in an imaginary world, with imaginary friends, completely cut off from reality. It's such a shame. I wonder how you can be so proud to be ignorant.
@SeekingTruth1234 LOL - wow it was so close to the real deal I couldn't even tell ha ha - you sounded just like the classic cookie cutter evolutionist !!!!! you even had the insults in there - I bet the evolutionists thought you were one of them ha ha - anyways peace - i like satire maybe i will start doing that tactic too lol - peace
@SeekingTruth1234 stop lying - evolution is not proven and does not have facts. There are all kinds of problems with evolution but you want to beleive it because you don't want to beleive in God. Evolution is closer to a religion than a science - mutations do not tranfer new info - mutations cause disease and deformations. The " fossil record " has no transitional fossils - there should be millions of them - only extinct animals which are NOT transitional species - they are complete animals !!
@fernieboy100 You are so ignorant. Evolution is a fact, wether you like it or not. If you can't face it, that's not anybody's problem: you are the fool. Nobody "believes" in evolution, we accept it as a fact, as we accept gravity. Do you believe in gravity? Evolution is not a religion, it is a scientific theory, theory here NOT meaning hypothesis. You don't know a shit about genetics, and neither do you about paleontology. I suggest you ignorant fool go and get schooled and stop talking shit.
@xmaneater You are not going to stop me friend - might as well forget that thought. You are acting just like the rest of them - you need to insult others in an attempt to win a debate but trust me it looks real weak when you have to resort to that. If you accept evolution as fact then you probubaly also think the earth spins too. Have you thought about this "fact" ? and why the travels times east and west on the equator are the same ? if the earth spins then this would not be the case. Wake up
@fernieboy100 Are you seriously questioning that fact that the Earth rotates? Seriously? I mean... Seriously? You are not even worth debating, then! This is a complete disgrace, utter non-sense, plain stupidity and ignorance, and a very profound insult to human intelligence and dignity. I can't believe you were the fastest sperm.
@xman Put your money where your mouth is ! Tell me why it takes just as long to fly 100 miles east on the equator as it does to fly 100 miles west. If the earth was spinning at 1000 miles an hour like they claim - then one direction would take way longer and the other way much much less. If you can't explain why the same distance takes the same amount of flight time then you are the ignorant one not me. The earth cannot be spinning but you beleive everything the textbooks tell you - GULLIBLE !
@fernieboy100 Did you ever go to school? Perhaps you lacked oxygen at birth. That would explain your... situation. Once a plane is in the air, it is not constantly accelerated anymore by Earth's rotation. The plane accelerates until it reaches it cruise speed, so wherever it goes, North, South, East, West, it doesn't change anything to its speed. Because friction between the plane's wheels and the ground is no more once it's in the air, Earth cannot accelerate it. Go back to school, please.
@xmanea I guess you don't understand what I am saying - I am saying that the earth is supposed to be spinning underneath the airplane - in one direction at 1000 miles per hour - if this was actually happening then one direction would take way less flight time - and the other direction would take a lot more - it would be like if a plane was flying above a river - if it flew upstream then more gallons of water would pass underneath it than if it was flowing the same direction as the flowing river
don't you think if you flew against the spin of the earth you would cover 100 miles very fast ? Also - When a helicopter hovers above the ground for several hours and then lands again - it lands in the exact same spot - if the earth was spinning then when it landed after hovering it would land in a different spot. if you had a remote control helicopter on the top of a moving train the second it lifted it would hover and the train would pass by underneath it. It\s the same concept dude.
Just calling me stupid ain't gonna cut it - now you have to explain that one - and dont resort to lame insults because you can't explain it - and won't admit that the earth simply cannot be spinning like the textbooks are saying - don't leave your own brain on the shelf and beleive what all these supposedly smart people are saying - use your own brain and think for yourself. If the earth was actually spinning then the things i told you about would not be happenning.
@fernieboy100 A simple way to put it for your simple-mindedness. You're standing in the middle of a bus going 50mph east. It takes you the same amount of time to walk to the front of the bus than to the back of the bus, even though it's going 50mph east. Now, you are the airplane and the bus is the Earth. But you'd know that, if you actually went to school...
@xmaneater You don't get it - standing or walking on the earth is not the same as flying in the atmosphere above it. Thats like saying if you launched a model helicopter off the top of a moving train that it would still be going the same speed as the train - but we know already that it hovers and the train passes beneath it. Again you tell me I never went to school but you are the one that can's see the facts on the matter - I bet you beleive in evolution too - you trust textbooks that change
@fernieboy100 Oh my shit, I can't believe you're that ignorant. If you knew what inertia is, you'd understant what I'm saying. But you are a lost cause, you're too close-minded to understant the beauty of the world you live in. I don't believe in evolution or in textbooks the way you believe in your bible and drink the words of your ignorant priest. I look at the evidence OBJECTIVELY, and I accept or refuse some theories. Evolution is a fact the way gravity is a fact. Live with it and grow up.
@xmaneater inertia has nothing to do with it because once in the air - air resistance affects the helicopter from travelling at the speed of earth. You can keep calling me stupid all you want but you are the one going against all the known laws of physics and gravity - and like i say inertia is not something thta explains your case at all - you are beleiving in falsehood - the bible said that anyone that rejects the truth will instead beleive a lie - and its sooo true. Your spiritually blind
@fernieboy100 You're a troll, an ignorant fool and a very, very stupid and sad man. You are what is wrong with this world. Blind people like you, holding on to their fairytales with their lives, are destroying human progress and intelligence, threatening humanity's survival and insulting everybody who's got a brain and knows how to use it. Shame on you, shame on your bible, and shame on your ignorance. I will stop feeding your troll stomach from now on.
@xman Sounds like you are good and ripe to swallow the anti-christ world government and leader - he will use human progress and new age theology, the masses and you are going to swallow it whole. It's because you don't know what the bible says so you are in the dark on end time prophecy - you will reject the truth and will swallow a lie in its place if you don't wake up. Sin is the root of almost all the worlds problems,you're so deceived you think people that preach the bible are the problem !
@fernieboy100 "However, the airplane has inertia, one interpretation of which means the airplane assumes the earth's frame of reference, moving right along with the earth's surface, and does not gain any advantage from this motion in travel to another point within this same frame of reference."
@fernieboy100 I will be quoting someone here with a little bit more knowledge than me on that matter.
"Since the earth rotates about 1000 mph near the equator and about 700 mph at 45 degrees latitude, from west to east, it may be tempting to think that this affects the relative ease with which the plane may travel in a particular direction." [see next comment for the rest]
@whitesquirrel7 okay since you just claimed this was " proven " 500 years ago I am going to call BS on that one and ask you to show us this " proof" you speak of
There is only one reason why people believe in god, no matter how they try and justify it, by deluding themsleves with spurious, ridiculous excuses, like its a personal relationship, we wouldn't understand. etc.
The real reason is that they are all s**t scarted of dying.
Get used to it. There is nothing after this life. Zero, Ziltch, Oblivion.
Think what it was like before you were born. That's what it will be like after you're dead.
You only have ONE life. Enjoy it. It's greedy to want more.
There is no adequate explanation for the origin of life from dead chemicals. Even the simplest life form is tremendously complex. The fossil record, our only documentation of whether evolution actually occurred in the past, lacks any transitional forms, and all types appear fully-formed when first present. The evidence that "pre-men" (ape-men) existed is dubious at best. So called pre-man fossils turn out to be those of apes, extinct apes, fully man, or historical frauds.
@gabbe7 Once again you are showing your total and absolute ignorance of evolution. you are just regurgitating all the old creationist cliches and deliberate mis-interpretations (lies) that have long since destroyed.
you are so far behind modern research, you are out of sight.
@fernieboy100 You can give me a list of frauds if you like. I don't disagree that there have been some, but they are infinitestimal when compared with the vast amount of genuine provable evidence supporting evolution and guess what. When a fraud has been detected, guess who exposes them? That's right, Scientists.
Unlike Christians who continue to perpetuate falsehoods in the bible, long after they have been proved to be false. Would you like my list of bible falsehoods?
@HonestMan3 Sure how about this - you bring me the out of context - so called false hoods that you do not understand - and i will do my best to explain them - which might not work because deep down you do not want to beleive or be accountable to God - so you will actually try to use intellect as a way to excuse rebellion to God - the chances of you seeing the truth are pretty slim but I will try - then I will show a list of all the evolution frauds -and you can explain why they did it - okay ?
@fernieboy100 Ok. Things that never happened in the bible.
The Exodus, The flood. The huge Kingdom of David. The Nativity, the Miracles of jesus, The crucifixion.
Is that enough to be going on with?
Of course I don't want to believe in god. Not even on the surface, never mind deep down.
Even if he was true, which he isn't, why would any sane person want to follow a psychotic genocidal maniac, who would be tried as a mass murderer if he were human. Cont'd.
ok think what you want but there IS a god! all of the things in the bible has happend and heres a question for you who made the apes? germs well, who made the germ and the galaxy and so on.....and i have had a sister that recently passed away and i know for a fact that she is in heaven! but think what u want u will regret your crazy thought when your time comes!!!
@tyrieluv621273 You are an ignorant, uneducated fool. Pretending you know the truth about everything, pretending you have all the answers... how noble...! And as I can see, you have absolutely no knowledge about evolution, which is rather pathetic. Monkeys, germs? Ridiculous. Go back to school: a proper school, in a proper country.
@HonestMan395 Okay well then be your own God - do whatever you want - justify anything you do - decide for yourself what is right and wrong - and see where it gets you. Since you refuse to listen to the truth - you will get exacly what you deserve- and so will billions and billions of other people that refuse to stop doing wickedness. Nobody that does evil will be in Gods new kingdom - God has told us this over and over again but people want to hold onto their sins - so they reap what they sow
@fernieboy100 You don't get it, do you. I don't want to be my own god. It's you who will not see the that there is no evidence for god other than in the bible, and the bible is just a load of myths and legends with absolutely no verification and corroboration in real historical and archaeological evidence. but there is a mass of evidence to prove that major biblical events never happened. But, I've already told you that, and you never challenged me on it. Possibly because you know it's true.
@fernieboy100 You can show me the list of evolution frauds if you really feel you want to. I probably know them anyway.
But I can tell you now, why they were Perpetrated. Because the people who did them were fallible humans. Just like the ones who wrote the bible and invented all the stories.
God had nothing to do with the writing of the bible. It was written from stories passed down from generation to generation, getting wilder and wilder with each retelling.
I dont understand a person believing in evolution and not a creator because evolution doesnt explain any beginning. Its only an explaination of the workings nature. so why does one have to believe in one or the other?
@gabbe7 Help me God (funny ai?) - how many times do I as a non-believer (in any god) have to explain this: I do not believe in evolution. But I regard it as the best explanation of the working of nature - as you put it. (To believe is a relgious thing.) Further - to explain the beginning - you have to go into beautiful consepts as cosmology, big-bang theory, string-theory etc. Consepts more beautiful than the bible, quran, the book of morons (mormons) - or any other religious book.
@gabbe7 No, Evolution does not explain the beginning of life. It has never claimed to. The start of life is Abiogenesis.
That is a totally different subject which has been explained and is close to being demonstrated. Evolution only claims to explain how life grew after the first primitive cells came into being and it does it perfectly. By your own statement, you demonstrate your complete lack of knowledge of the subject.
@HonestMan395 Science cannot explain what is holding the universe together. Other than dark matter right? something we cant see or feel but it must be there right? And by blind faith you are wrong. The more worldy humans become the less susceptible they are to the idea of the spiritual self. There are phenomena of the human brain that transcend "testable and verifiable" watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc
ambiogenesis has no explination it is just going back in circles just like evolution it is all about how the chemicals or molicules or whatever formed to make life but has no explination of where those things came from. they came from something.. where?
this is funny that you like everyone else that argues evolution ends up insulting the person that is just wanting to have proof of evolution. evolution doesnt explain origins, there is no proof of it occuring in nature. It is a theory.
ps. it is a good idea not to insult the person you are debating, it totally ruins your stance.
@gabbe7 Telling someone they are ignorant of how evolution works, when it's obvious that they do not know is not being rude. That is just stating a fact.
Ignorance is not an insult. If I had said you were stupid, that would have been, but I would never call anyone stupid without knowing them.
Various possible mechanisms behind Abiogenesis are well understood theoretically.
What's now happening, experiments are being constucted to find which of the various theories is correct.
SCIENCE is not an answer it is in searchof one. that is why everything is a theory. there is absolutly no evidence to support evolution only "like" things ie. monkeys and humans. if in fact it was an answer it would explain the origin of anything. take a wooden bookshelf you can trace it back to the seed that the tree came from or even further but you will keep going further and further which science keeps doing untill
"there is absolutly no evidence to support evolution"
Whoever has been telling you this has been lying to you. There is much more evidence for evolution than the mere similarity between organisms. Stop reading creationist websites and delve into the science.
you must make things up "theory" though its logical in our minds we are stuck with someting coming from nothing. basic math here 0 + 0= 0 (real world) evolution 0+0= 40,000,000,000,000. do you see the simplicity of the faled attempt to take a creator out of the picture. if you dont you are a fool.
"actuallly the evolution debate deals with that statement exactly. "
There is evolution debate within science. Yes, scientists debate about the specific mechanisms, but the occurrence of evolution is an observed, accepted fact.
why are people asking for proof of god,how can you proove god in the way you are speaking of,the whole point of god is believing.Thats why he never shows himself.
you really thinkwe came from nothing?
HOW,what the fuck was anything doing anywere in the first place?
Someone below said creation is based on fact. LOOL Please produce the evidence? You will be the first EVER for any god.Just be a good person in spit of your religion. We will all be fine.
Science makes us discover all the law of physics, law of inertia, law of gravity, etc.
The universe & the earth does not came by chance or probability. Scientist now argue coz all evidence points to a product of design. Their factor rate came to that conclusion. If by design, question is why? for what purpose? and by whom?
@Eye2EyeIIIV You are looking at the world through a mirror. You have it all backwards. There has never ever been a single shred of evidence to suggest creation. Not on a scientific basis.
@Eye2EyeIIIV "Evolutionism is based on assumptions & conflicting reports.
Creation is based on facts & evidence & logical interpretations." Eye: Have you studied evolution and fully understand it? If you haven't, it's ok because it is very complex and I dont understand all of it myself. Science does not use speculation, magical thinking or evoking the supernatural It uses a very disciplined set of processes and unrelenting peer-review to take an idea to a fully accepted theory.
@HonestMan395 You are stuck on such trivialities your own faith cannot explain.Once you get past that, and realize we aren't accidents evolved from primordial pools of ooze, then you make an important first step. Next realize the presence of good and evil. Science cannot explain what is holding the universe together. Other than dark matter right? something we cant see or feel but it must be there right? seems science depends on faith more than you realize.humble yourself and seek truth.pm me plz
@gammafreak Morality and ethics are natural evolutionary processes and science does not rely on faith in any way. It relies on testable and verifiable evidence, whereas religion relies totally on blind faith as it has no evidence.
Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops.
Thankyou for the request to PM you, but I only do that when the 500 letter format is inadequate for what has to be said.
You failed to shoot down the last part of my comment,and science is as much a faith as anything else,regardless whether it's evidence based or not.You are casting your lot in the fact that nothing exists unless it falls on your lap or if it can't be explained in so many words.I'm casting mine in the fact I experience knowing my creator on a personal level.Why does water boil? scientifically it can be explained away, but it has deeper meaning.Its boiling because i want tea. Think about it.
@HonestMan395 And by blind faith you are wrong. The more worldy humans become the less susceptible they are to the idea of the spiritual self. There are phenomena of the human brain that transcend "testable and verifiable" watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc
The basic flaw of all evolutionary views is the origin of the information in living beings. It has never been shown that a coding system and semantic information could originate by itself in a material medium, and the information theorems predict that this will never be possible. A purely material origin of life is thus precluded
@HonestMan395 Non-living chemicals cannot become alive on their own. The cell is a factory with many active processes, not a simple blob of “protoplasm” as believed in Darwin’s day. Lightening striking a mud puddle or some “warm little pond” will never produce life. .
This is another view of the core issue of information as the simplest living cell requires a vast amount of information to be present. The “Law of Biogenesis” states that life comes only from prior life. Spontaneous generation has long been shown to be impossible. Numerous efforts to bring life from non-life (including the famous Miller-Urey experiment) have not succeeded.
I have and they ave come to no conclusion on how something comes from nothing. NOTHING CANNOT MAKE SOMETHING, you need something. its common sense. I hope you get some soon.
@gabbe7 Try to reproduce something that has happened over hundreds of millions of years in a smal lab experiment over a few days... Yeah right, we must have been created... NOT.
the bases of the evolutionary argument is that given enough time anything is possible but what this argument is postulating is that "time" itself is eternal (it always was, always is and always will be). Because it has no explination for wher that cell or atom or whatever that began everything came from to believe in evolution you are believing that the matter that is eternal is in essence "God" in the sense that is eternal.
"to believe in evolution you are believing that the matter that is eternal is in essence "God" in the sense that is eternal."
Except that evolution is purely about biology.
The concept of an eternal God isn't universal. That just so happens to be a characteristic of your chosen God. There's no "belief" involved here...there are only conclusions drawn from evidence.
@HonestMan395 The probability of life forming from non-life has been likened to the probability of a tornado going through a junkyard and spontaneously assembling a working 747 airplane. The idea that life may have come from outer space just moves the problem elsewhere
@thesongsforlife1 No, I'm curious, I assume that you were commenting on my request to Eye2EyeIIIV regarding evidence. If that is so, I fail to see what the pyramids have to do with it.
@thesongsforlife1 Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about or you would be able to answer a simple question. If you are suggesting that god made the pyramids, then either you are into spacemen and ufo's or you have not been keeping up with the latest research.
@HonestMan395 I am not going to bother and yes I do keep up with the latest research and I am not trying to argue with you ok you asked for and answer from Eye2EyeIIIV but considering he was not answering your question I decided to do so instead please do not go thinking I am starting on you or anything because people for some reason are like that these days.
@thesongsforlife1 Ok. It's up to you if you don't want to answer, and I thankyou for giving in gracefully and admitting defeat, because it is obvious that you don't have any answers.
How the pyramids were built is now fully understood and it has nothing to do with any gods.
@Eye2EyeIIIV HAHAHA! Evolution is based on evidence that you refuse to acknowledge, facts that you refuse to accept and observations that you refuse to see. Creation is based on a sigle bronze-age book that tries to justify its own existence, a book full of B.S. and horrible stories centered around a horrible character. Science is logic. Faith is irrationnal, illogical and based on authority. If you can't face this, you are closing your eyes on the world you live in.
I know who I follow - Jesus Christ. Who do you follow? What is the mans name that you follow, because you are following the teachings of a person. Who is he.
All people want power, when people belive in god beleve they have power and people how argue think they lose power if god exists people become defensive when you remove power.
All people want power, when people belive in god beleve they have power and people how argue think they lose power if god exists people become defensive when you remove power.
They simply have a psychological yearning for a god. Let them explain why an intelligent creator would create things in such a way, and let them also explain why they worship an evil god.
people think its crazy that God created the earth in seven days because PEOPLE are looking at it from a HUMAN perspective... either u believe the bible or u dont theres no reason to be uncivilized and not accept that some agree and disagree. my friends just think of it this way if the God of the Universe could part the red sea for Moses with the snap of his finger. whether you believe it or not a HUMAN has no idea how easy or difficult it was for God to create the heavens and the earth...
Has anyone thought that maybe evolution is Gods creation. 2 thousand years ago I don't think that people would have understood the things that we know today so the Bible is full of parables that explained Everything what God had made more understandible way. Today people think that it's stupid to think that all exictence was created in 7 days etc.
Maybe it was really made in 7 hundred million years but it was easier to explain to the people back then. Think about it.
Yeah maybe your right. But if you don't believe you aren't really living. And oh yeah. I need to ask this but if Gabriel was the one who informed Mohammed that there's only one god and Gabriel was our Gods angel then does it mean that Islam and Christianity have the same God?
I beg to differ. Why do you need faith in superstition to fullfill your life?
If somone comes up with an outrages idea but offers no evidence for it but expects you to dedicate your life to it without question dosnt that seem like a scam?
Superstition sucks in gullible people from the housands of different religions to horoscopes and alternative medicine.
Irational belief without evidence is a waste of existance and belittles the human mind.
@LordVili im not disputing wether there is a god or not because no one knows and that shows the hypocrisy of religion.
Each different religion claims that their god is the true god and the others as superstition but offer no evidence to support their claims and in most cases fly in the face of modern scientific facts.
Anyone who says that they know without a shadow of a doubt what happens when you die is either a complete liar or a fool.
I hate atheists. Not because they don't believe in God but because they are so depressing. Anyone can throw in argument like "You're just one of those religious maniacs! You are wrong."
Answer what I was searching was that someone with neutral point of view would discuss with me not someone who immediately says that I am too confused or stupid to understand.
do u know what, believe what u want to believe. it all comes out of the wash. meaning when we die we'll see whose right. if evolution is right then we will see darkness or become ghost when we die. if you believe in creationism, you will go to heaven, and if creationism is right, all evolution belivers will go to hell. go god
agentRCR 1 month ago
People, this "fernieboy100" is a complete retard. Just ignore him, his stupidity knows no limits and his ignorance is as deep as can be. He thinks the sun orbits the Earth... There's nothing you can do. He's just completely, hopelessly retarded.
xmaneater 2 months ago
@xmaneater when you are ready to put your money where your mouth is let me know - i dont think you can debate without panicking and throwing insults - if you think you have a case then state it my friend - you only beleive the earth spins because the science dictatorships taught you that, and you have never been shown anything else - so before you start screaming like a little school girl why don't you come to the plate with a legitamite argument lol
fernieboy100 2 months ago
@fernieboy100 And you believe the sun orbits the Earth because "the religion dictatorships taught you that, and you have never been shown anything else". I already told you: the Coriolis effect and Foucault's Pendulum are tangible proofs that the Earth rotates on an axis. I can't believe that in this day and age, with information available everywhere, you still read bronze-age anthologies in a literal way.
xmaneater 2 months ago
@xmaneater Foucaults pendulum only shows the electromagnetic energy that holds the earth in place - the universe is rotating around a stationary earth and that rotating universe is sending electromagnetic energy to the center of the earth - that is why the pendulum always centers itself over and over again - its a centering energy and that pendulum and how it behaves is proof of that. Lightening is caused by arcs when water builds up in the atmosphere -which an air filled insulator
fernieboy100 2 months ago
@fernieboy100 I can hardly believe what I'm seeing there... Complete lack of education. None whatsoever. A pendulum has nothing to do with electromagnetism. I just can't... Even when you are throw facts and evidence in the face, you still continue to vomit absolute nonsense. I despise you so much, you have no idea. You are hopeless. Please die. And by the way, you still haven't explained to me how the Coriolis effect is created on a static Earth... I'm anxious to read that...
xmaneater 2 months ago
@xmaneater Have you ever seen one of those little globes that floats in the air - being held by electrostatic energy ? now spray some water near it - there is your lightening. As the sun travels around the earth - some areas of earth are warmer than others - this causes air currents to form - whenever you have both hot and cold air - you can be sure to have movement of air - the hot air goes towards the colder areas and the colder air heads towards the hotter areas - theres the weather system
fernieboy100 2 months ago
@fernieboy100 I have nothing more to say to you, poor boy. How can we have a scientific argument when you are so completely scientifically illiterate? It's a shame that you choose to delude yourself with myths of gods, witches and demons in this very century. Information is everywhere. Yet you refuse to seek it. You just ignore it. How can you live with yourself? I sincerely hope you're messing with us here and that you're not serious. Such a shame...
xmaneater 2 months ago
@xmaneater Yes there are myths and legends that are totally false - stories simply made up by men. There are also things that exist but they are invisible to the naked eye - such as an aids virus - a radio signal - oxygen - or wind. We know those things exist because they have evidence - we also know God and Satan are real too based on the evidence we see of them. You can see the spiritual war taking place on a grand scale and we can see what God has created - these things are true - not myths
fernieboy100 2 months ago
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@xmaneater you are so completely scientifically illiterate? It's a shame that you choose to delude yourself with myths of god.....
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Your delusions that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your claim is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
1tabligh 1 month ago
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The atheist Delusion!
Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
1tabligh 1 month ago
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What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
1tabligh 1 month ago
@SeekingTruth1234 You're pretty stupid, you know that, don't you?
nancy6ify 3 months ago
Disease was thought to be caused by demons.
MrJohnnyrace 4 months ago
Wow! How hard did they have to look to find this very select group of scientists?
ChipArgyle 4 months ago
Creationism is a joke
SiNgHayStyle 5 months ago
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@SiNgHayStyle Why dont you show us why ? your assertion means nothing - nice try though - but you need to show us why if you can - but guess what ? you can't
fernieboy100 4 months ago
@SiNgHayStyle I dont think the devil is laughing
fernieboy100 2 months ago
I'm a evolutionist and i believe that God doesn't exist BUT hypothetically speaking if he does exist i still believe that i will go to heaven.This is because i have used reason and evidence and more importantly my BRAIN to decipher that God existence is very very slim. "IF" God does exist he will send all us evolutionists to heaven because we "used" what he gave us instead of the ignorant creationists blindly following a book written 3,000 years ago.I know its a odd view but its how i see it.
MrFluffytoilet 5 months ago 2
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@MrFluffytoilet You don't know what the bible says - not only that but you don't think creationists use their brain - which is simply not true. Assering creationists are stupid does not make it true.
fernieboy100 3 months ago
Evolution is not science.
Comets wouldn't even exist if the universe was billions of years old.
There is also a Maker of all of the ordered functions of hydrogen and most of the most common elements working in life forms.
Creation is proven by science because ordered functions do not exist without having a Maker.
There is no evidence of any evolution ever happening. Mutations do not accumulate, they do not work together ot order anything.
watch?v=lEledPONpkQ
JungleJargon 5 months ago
@JungleJargon My apologies for stepping in here...
Not only has evolution been directly observed under laboratory conditions, but so has actual speciation. That's right. Scientists were able to watch a split group of a single organism turn into two separate organisms over time through successive generations. Paired individuals, one from each of the two resulting groups, were no longer able to breed with each other.
Facts always get in the way of a good religious argument. Sorry about that.
ChipArgyle 4 months ago
@ChipArgyle You are not describing evolution but rather adaptation - this is the thing so many people can/t understand - they can't draw the line between macro - evolution and simple adaptation - the two are not the same thing. For example a st.bernard and a toy poodle are different in many ways but they still remain dogs - just like the bible said - they will produce after their own kind. They change but they also remain dogs the whole time. Sorry but the facts support the bible actually
fernieboy100 3 months ago
@fernieboy100 Let me think about this for a second...OK...nope, you're completely "I don't even know the definitions of the words" kind of wrong. Now be a good boy, put down that Bible for a bit, and go read another book. Make it a science book.
That silly book of yours says that God created the Earth before he created light. Earth existed before the sun it orbits did. You understand that, right? And that's just the first mistake of the Bible, less than 200 words into it.
ChipArgyle 3 months ago
@ChipArgyle Thats not a mistake - thats what happenned. The sun orbits a stationary earth but you want to beleive men instead of Yahweh. It seems you think the creator of the universe does not understand science but I can guarantee he knows a lot more than any human does so this begs the question - who is right ? human beings which are created beings themselves - or the one who created them ? Who do you think is right and who is wrong on these matters ? I guarantee you that he is not wrong
fernieboy100 3 months ago
@fernieboy100 Thank goodness you were only joking. I was a little worried about you for a bit.
ChipArgyle 3 months ago
@fernieboy100 I'm just curious. Were you homeschooled ? What kind of education did you get, especially in science ?
Do some people close to you actually hold the same beliefs as you, especially for the rotation of the earth ?
ivanlagrossemoule 2 months ago
@JungleJargon Now I really think you're just messing with people. No one believes something that crazy
MrKGatl 4 months ago
@JungleJargon please watch this
watch?v=G2a-oMNbei4
and take this dumb video down afterwards
cause4reason 4 months ago
Like if you believe in God.
Thankmelater123 5 months ago
it is all a matter of relativity
the fact that the earth rotates is proven by the simple fact that if the earth were not spinning the winds would blow from equator to pole, but in the real world they blow at an angle to any given meridian
this effect is caused by the rotation of the earth which pulls the atmosphere around with it
QED the earth is spinning
whitesquirrel7 6 months ago
@whitesquirrel7 what happens when a helicopter launchs off the top of a train ? what is observed ? does it keep going the same speed as the train or does it hover above as the train passes beneath it ? this is a good way to check to see if the earth is actually spinning because the exact same forces and laws of physics are at work in both situations - so when a helicopter leaves earth - tell me then why hours later it touches down in the same spot, If you think this through you will see
fernieboy100 6 months ago
if their is one thing i hate, is people who say religion is the origin of ethics. if you only do good things because your threatened by a "god", your the real scum of the world. many people say athiest have to ethics because they don't believe in god. i think athiests are people who have morals without being threatened to do so.
zc630 7 months ago 4
@zc630 Being a good citizen is not going to get you into heaven - neither is following your own twisted set of morals - only gods morals are righteous - yours stink lol. Mainly because you allow sins that you enjoy - that is called being self righteous - that is what you are self righteous - deciding what your self deems to be right and wrong.
fernieboy100 6 months ago
Not only that fact but as an atheist you think good or evil is subjective - to your own whims and ideas - so since you beleive there is no right or wrong written in stone - you have no right to say what is right or wrong - you cant make any claim to it since you make no stand on it.
fernieboy100 6 months ago
@fernieboy100 "you cant make any claim to it since you make no stand on it.">>> You have it completely backwards. You are the one who claims to have no opinion on what is moral. You just stick with "whatever god says goes". You have taken your own voice and experience out of the equation. You are not worth listening to since you have no opinion at all of your own. We, on the other hand, see value in thinking about matters and debating their relevance.
rrpostalagain 4 months ago
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@rrpostalagain You think you know better than God - but heres a wake up call - you don't. Your opinion is nothing more than that - an opinion. You have a one sided biased argument against God and his word - just because YOU say I am not worth listening to does NOT make that true - your assumptions and assertions are never ending - you have nothing solid only empty biased ridiculous claims - you act intelligent but you actually aren't - the fear of God is the beginning of all wisdom -
fernieboy100 4 months ago
@ fernieboy100, your the type of useless person who believes the worlds problems is others faults and not your own. grow up, realize your "god" has done nothing "godly" in our time, and see sense.
zc630 7 months ago
@zc630 I do beleive the worlds problems are caused by sin - I can't deny that. Think if people did not lie steal kill cheat or covet - it would end a lot of problems for sure. We cannot blame the devil for our bad behaviour. You don't understand the scriptures - if you did you would not act that way and say the things you say.
fernieboy100 6 months ago
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ok im trying not to troll, but the bible could be three things: 1: the son of god came to earth to convert people to christians, 2: an egotistical guy was born and got lucky off of alot of gulible people, 3: somebody just wrote a fictional story for fun. i am a strong believer in the 3rd.
zc630 7 months ago
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zc630 7 months ago
to HonestMan 395- you are an idiot. I studied religion as an undergrad and biology for my master'sdegree, so you will lose any way you approach this. But just to show you HOW little you know about Christianity,(and I am making a HUGE assumption here that Christian Doctrine is true, just for sake of this argument). You clai m that ANYONE who does evil will be in God's Kingdom.There was only one man without sin-Jesus-we are all sinners, so we ALL commit evil. Yet we can still go to heaven dumbass
jfoxatlanta 9 months ago
@jfoxatlanta If you though I said that anyone who does evil will be in god's kingdom, then you either misinterpreted me, or I did not phrase whatever it was I said clearly enough.
I don't believe anyone will be in god's kingdom, simply because it is just a myth, with no evidence to prove it other than the bible. It is just one of the fanciful stories manufactured from the imagination and superstitions of the ignorant goat herders who wrote the bible, very few of which are real.
HonestMan395 9 months ago
@jfoxatlanta By the way, I studied the bible almost as soon as I learned to read. Iwas a dvout christian until I was about 18-19, but I've also studied relevent history from the times of the bible, which Is one of the reasons I am not a christian now.
The christian ETHIC is true, the Christian Doctine is is totall false. Even the bible says so. If you are such a student of the bible, you should know that.
HonestMan395 8 months ago
@HonestMan395 where does the bible say that the christian doctrine is off ? and what doctrine are you talking about ? also what "relevent " history are you taking about ? can you show it to us ? so we can see what it is that refuted the bibles accounts ? thanks in advance for providing us with these history records you are speaking of : o
fernieboy100 2 months ago
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"Random mutations consistently destroy information." P. 15; "Selection cannot rescue the genome." P. 69; "Mutation / selection cannot even create a single gene." P. 123; "All evidence points to human genetic degradation." P.143 - Genetic Entropy & The Mystery of the Genome by Cornell U. Genetics Professor John Sanford. He holds 25 genetic patents and is the inventor of the gene gun. He is truly an expert on the subject of mutations and natural selection. Evolution is a fairy tale for adults.
achilles197474 9 months ago
fernieboy100 is an idiot, and does not deserve his place on Earth. He is a Troll. Don't feed the Troll, please. I tried to reason him, but it seems those kinds of idiots can't deal with reason. Too hard for their retarded brains. DON'T FEED THE TROLL, he'll leave and shut up.
xmaneater 9 months ago 11
@xmaneater we will see if what you say is truth - we will see if I will shut up and leave lol
fernieboy100 8 months ago
@xmaneater I am still here 3 months later - so where are you ? lol - you told people I would leave and shut up but I guess you were dead wrong lol
fernieboy100 6 months ago
@xmaneater you can't win the debate so you throw stones - or should I say nerf balls
fernieboy100 2 months ago
@fernieboy100 There is no debate. There's the truth on one side, and you on the other side, living in an imaginary world, with imaginary friends, completely cut off from reality. It's such a shame. I wonder how you can be so proud to be ignorant.
xmaneater 2 months ago
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@xmaneater There is no debate because you don't know how lol
fernieboy100 2 months ago
@SeekingTruth1234 LOL - wow it was so close to the real deal I couldn't even tell ha ha - you sounded just like the classic cookie cutter evolutionist !!!!! you even had the insults in there - I bet the evolutionists thought you were one of them ha ha - anyways peace - i like satire maybe i will start doing that tactic too lol - peace
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@SeekingTruth1234 stop lying - evolution is not proven and does not have facts. There are all kinds of problems with evolution but you want to beleive it because you don't want to beleive in God. Evolution is closer to a religion than a science - mutations do not tranfer new info - mutations cause disease and deformations. The " fossil record " has no transitional fossils - there should be millions of them - only extinct animals which are NOT transitional species - they are complete animals !!
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 You are so ignorant. Evolution is a fact, wether you like it or not. If you can't face it, that's not anybody's problem: you are the fool. Nobody "believes" in evolution, we accept it as a fact, as we accept gravity. Do you believe in gravity? Evolution is not a religion, it is a scientific theory, theory here NOT meaning hypothesis. You don't know a shit about genetics, and neither do you about paleontology. I suggest you ignorant fool go and get schooled and stop talking shit.
xmaneater 9 months ago 3
@xmaneater You are not going to stop me friend - might as well forget that thought. You are acting just like the rest of them - you need to insult others in an attempt to win a debate but trust me it looks real weak when you have to resort to that. If you accept evolution as fact then you probubaly also think the earth spins too. Have you thought about this "fact" ? and why the travels times east and west on the equator are the same ? if the earth spins then this would not be the case. Wake up
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 Are you seriously questioning that fact that the Earth rotates? Seriously? I mean... Seriously? You are not even worth debating, then! This is a complete disgrace, utter non-sense, plain stupidity and ignorance, and a very profound insult to human intelligence and dignity. I can't believe you were the fastest sperm.
xmaneater 9 months ago 20
@xman Put your money where your mouth is ! Tell me why it takes just as long to fly 100 miles east on the equator as it does to fly 100 miles west. If the earth was spinning at 1000 miles an hour like they claim - then one direction would take way longer and the other way much much less. If you can't explain why the same distance takes the same amount of flight time then you are the ignorant one not me. The earth cannot be spinning but you beleive everything the textbooks tell you - GULLIBLE !
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 Did you ever go to school? Perhaps you lacked oxygen at birth. That would explain your... situation. Once a plane is in the air, it is not constantly accelerated anymore by Earth's rotation. The plane accelerates until it reaches it cruise speed, so wherever it goes, North, South, East, West, it doesn't change anything to its speed. Because friction between the plane's wheels and the ground is no more once it's in the air, Earth cannot accelerate it. Go back to school, please.
xmaneater 9 months ago 3
@xmanea I guess you don't understand what I am saying - I am saying that the earth is supposed to be spinning underneath the airplane - in one direction at 1000 miles per hour - if this was actually happening then one direction would take way less flight time - and the other direction would take a lot more - it would be like if a plane was flying above a river - if it flew upstream then more gallons of water would pass underneath it than if it was flowing the same direction as the flowing river
fernieboy100 9 months ago
don't you think if you flew against the spin of the earth you would cover 100 miles very fast ? Also - When a helicopter hovers above the ground for several hours and then lands again - it lands in the exact same spot - if the earth was spinning then when it landed after hovering it would land in a different spot. if you had a remote control helicopter on the top of a moving train the second it lifted it would hover and the train would pass by underneath it. It\s the same concept dude.
fernieboy100 9 months ago
Just calling me stupid ain't gonna cut it - now you have to explain that one - and dont resort to lame insults because you can't explain it - and won't admit that the earth simply cannot be spinning like the textbooks are saying - don't leave your own brain on the shelf and beleive what all these supposedly smart people are saying - use your own brain and think for yourself. If the earth was actually spinning then the things i told you about would not be happenning.
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 A simple way to put it for your simple-mindedness. You're standing in the middle of a bus going 50mph east. It takes you the same amount of time to walk to the front of the bus than to the back of the bus, even though it's going 50mph east. Now, you are the airplane and the bus is the Earth. But you'd know that, if you actually went to school...
xmaneater 9 months ago 2
@xmaneater You don't get it - standing or walking on the earth is not the same as flying in the atmosphere above it. Thats like saying if you launched a model helicopter off the top of a moving train that it would still be going the same speed as the train - but we know already that it hovers and the train passes beneath it. Again you tell me I never went to school but you are the one that can's see the facts on the matter - I bet you beleive in evolution too - you trust textbooks that change
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 Oh my shit, I can't believe you're that ignorant. If you knew what inertia is, you'd understant what I'm saying. But you are a lost cause, you're too close-minded to understant the beauty of the world you live in. I don't believe in evolution or in textbooks the way you believe in your bible and drink the words of your ignorant priest. I look at the evidence OBJECTIVELY, and I accept or refuse some theories. Evolution is a fact the way gravity is a fact. Live with it and grow up.
xmaneater 9 months ago
@xmaneater inertia has nothing to do with it because once in the air - air resistance affects the helicopter from travelling at the speed of earth. You can keep calling me stupid all you want but you are the one going against all the known laws of physics and gravity - and like i say inertia is not something thta explains your case at all - you are beleiving in falsehood - the bible said that anyone that rejects the truth will instead beleive a lie - and its sooo true. Your spiritually blind
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 You're a troll, an ignorant fool and a very, very stupid and sad man. You are what is wrong with this world. Blind people like you, holding on to their fairytales with their lives, are destroying human progress and intelligence, threatening humanity's survival and insulting everybody who's got a brain and knows how to use it. Shame on you, shame on your bible, and shame on your ignorance. I will stop feeding your troll stomach from now on.
xmaneater 9 months ago
@xman Sounds like you are good and ripe to swallow the anti-christ world government and leader - he will use human progress and new age theology, the masses and you are going to swallow it whole. It's because you don't know what the bible says so you are in the dark on end time prophecy - you will reject the truth and will swallow a lie in its place if you don't wake up. Sin is the root of almost all the worlds problems,you're so deceived you think people that preach the bible are the problem !
fernieboy100 9 months ago
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@fernieboy100 "However, the airplane has inertia, one interpretation of which means the airplane assumes the earth's frame of reference, moving right along with the earth's surface, and does not gain any advantage from this motion in travel to another point within this same frame of reference."
xmaneater 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 I will be quoting someone here with a little bit more knowledge than me on that matter.
"Since the earth rotates about 1000 mph near the equator and about 700 mph at 45 degrees latitude, from west to east, it may be tempting to think that this affects the relative ease with which the plane may travel in a particular direction." [see next comment for the rest]
xmaneater 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 you really dont believe the earth spins or are you a troll?
hockey3761 3 months ago
@fernieboy100
and why the travels times east and west on the equator are the same ? if the earth spins then this would not be the case.
facepalm
the flaw in your argument is simple
the travel times east and west are not the same
look up 'jet lag'
for the earth not to be spinning it would require that the sun goes around the earth
this has been proven not to be the case some 500 years now
whitesquirrel7 6 months ago
@whitesquirrel7 okay since you just claimed this was " proven " 500 years ago I am going to call BS on that one and ask you to show us this " proof" you speak of
fernieboy100 2 months ago
@fernieboy100
given that none of my comments mention '500 years' in relation to this video
why should I even need to reply
whitesquirrel7 2 months ago
There is only one reason why people believe in god, no matter how they try and justify it, by deluding themsleves with spurious, ridiculous excuses, like its a personal relationship, we wouldn't understand. etc.
The real reason is that they are all s**t scarted of dying.
Get used to it. There is nothing after this life. Zero, Ziltch, Oblivion.
Think what it was like before you were born. That's what it will be like after you're dead.
You only have ONE life. Enjoy it. It's greedy to want more.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
There is no adequate explanation for the origin of life from dead chemicals. Even the simplest life form is tremendously complex. The fossil record, our only documentation of whether evolution actually occurred in the past, lacks any transitional forms, and all types appear fully-formed when first present. The evidence that "pre-men" (ape-men) existed is dubious at best. So called pre-man fossils turn out to be those of apes, extinct apes, fully man, or historical frauds.
gabbe7 10 months ago
@gabbe7 Once again you are showing your total and absolute ignorance of evolution. you are just regurgitating all the old creationist cliches and deliberate mis-interpretations (lies) that have long since destroyed.
you are so far behind modern research, you are out of sight.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@HonestMan395 maybe you would like a list of the various frauds discovered in an attempt to promote evolution ?
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 You can give me a list of frauds if you like. I don't disagree that there have been some, but they are infinitestimal when compared with the vast amount of genuine provable evidence supporting evolution and guess what. When a fraud has been detected, guess who exposes them? That's right, Scientists.
Unlike Christians who continue to perpetuate falsehoods in the bible, long after they have been proved to be false. Would you like my list of bible falsehoods?
HonestMan395 9 months ago
@HonestMan3 Sure how about this - you bring me the out of context - so called false hoods that you do not understand - and i will do my best to explain them - which might not work because deep down you do not want to beleive or be accountable to God - so you will actually try to use intellect as a way to excuse rebellion to God - the chances of you seeing the truth are pretty slim but I will try - then I will show a list of all the evolution frauds -and you can explain why they did it - okay ?
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 Ok. Things that never happened in the bible.
The Exodus, The flood. The huge Kingdom of David. The Nativity, the Miracles of jesus, The crucifixion.
Is that enough to be going on with?
Of course I don't want to believe in god. Not even on the surface, never mind deep down.
Even if he was true, which he isn't, why would any sane person want to follow a psychotic genocidal maniac, who would be tried as a mass murderer if he were human. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 9 months ago
@HonestMan395
ok think what you want but there IS a god! all of the things in the bible has happend and heres a question for you who made the apes? germs well, who made the germ and the galaxy and so on.....and i have had a sister that recently passed away and i know for a fact that she is in heaven! but think what u want u will regret your crazy thought when your time comes!!!
tyrieluv621273 9 months ago
@tyrieluv621273 You are an ignorant, uneducated fool. Pretending you know the truth about everything, pretending you have all the answers... how noble...! And as I can see, you have absolutely no knowledge about evolution, which is rather pathetic. Monkeys, germs? Ridiculous. Go back to school: a proper school, in a proper country.
xmaneater 9 months ago
@HonestMan395 Okay well then be your own God - do whatever you want - justify anything you do - decide for yourself what is right and wrong - and see where it gets you. Since you refuse to listen to the truth - you will get exacly what you deserve- and so will billions and billions of other people that refuse to stop doing wickedness. Nobody that does evil will be in Gods new kingdom - God has told us this over and over again but people want to hold onto their sins - so they reap what they sow
fernieboy100 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 You don't get it, do you. I don't want to be my own god. It's you who will not see the that there is no evidence for god other than in the bible, and the bible is just a load of myths and legends with absolutely no verification and corroboration in real historical and archaeological evidence. but there is a mass of evidence to prove that major biblical events never happened. But, I've already told you that, and you never challenged me on it. Possibly because you know it's true.
HonestMan395 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 You can show me the list of evolution frauds if you really feel you want to. I probably know them anyway.
But I can tell you now, why they were Perpetrated. Because the people who did them were fallible humans. Just like the ones who wrote the bible and invented all the stories.
God had nothing to do with the writing of the bible. It was written from stories passed down from generation to generation, getting wilder and wilder with each retelling.
HonestMan395 9 months ago
@fernieboy100 I would like to see that list. Must be very funny to read...
xmaneater 9 months ago
I dont understand a person believing in evolution and not a creator because evolution doesnt explain any beginning. Its only an explaination of the workings nature. so why does one have to believe in one or the other?
gabbe7 11 months ago
@gabbe7 Help me God (funny ai?) - how many times do I as a non-believer (in any god) have to explain this: I do not believe in evolution. But I regard it as the best explanation of the working of nature - as you put it. (To believe is a relgious thing.) Further - to explain the beginning - you have to go into beautiful consepts as cosmology, big-bang theory, string-theory etc. Consepts more beautiful than the bible, quran, the book of morons (mormons) - or any other religious book.
mjusiqtube 10 months ago
@mjusiqtube
no on is asking you to explain anything. but if you really look into what you believe you'll see that it is impossible
gabbe7 10 months ago
@gabbe7 No, Evolution does not explain the beginning of life. It has never claimed to. The start of life is Abiogenesis.
That is a totally different subject which has been explained and is close to being demonstrated. Evolution only claims to explain how life grew after the first primitive cells came into being and it does it perfectly. By your own statement, you demonstrate your complete lack of knowledge of the subject.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@HonestMan395 again you dodge my last comment . . .
gammafreak 10 months ago
@gammafreak I wasn't aware that i was dodging anything, Precisely which part am i supposed to have dodged. I will happily give you an answer.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
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@HonestMan395 Science cannot explain what is holding the universe together. Other than dark matter right? something we cant see or feel but it must be there right? And by blind faith you are wrong. The more worldy humans become the less susceptible they are to the idea of the spiritual self. There are phenomena of the human brain that transcend "testable and verifiable" watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc
gammafreak 10 months ago
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gammafreak 10 months ago
@HonestMan395
ambiogenesis has no explination it is just going back in circles just like evolution it is all about how the chemicals or molicules or whatever formed to make life but has no explination of where those things came from. they came from something.. where?
gabbe7 10 months ago
@gabbe7 Before you start spouting about evolution, at least take the trouble to learn something about it.
My 10 yr old Granddaughter knows more about it than you.
Your ignorance is embarrassing for an adult.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@HonestMan395
this is funny that you like everyone else that argues evolution ends up insulting the person that is just wanting to have proof of evolution. evolution doesnt explain origins, there is no proof of it occuring in nature. It is a theory.
ps. it is a good idea not to insult the person you are debating, it totally ruins your stance.
gabbe7 10 months ago
@gabbe7 Telling someone they are ignorant of how evolution works, when it's obvious that they do not know is not being rude. That is just stating a fact.
Ignorance is not an insult. If I had said you were stupid, that would have been, but I would never call anyone stupid without knowing them.
Various possible mechanisms behind Abiogenesis are well understood theoretically.
What's now happening, experiments are being constucted to find which of the various theories is correct.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@gabbe7
"evolution doesnt explain origins, "
Bingo!
"there is no proof of it occuring in nature."
No, but there is a massive amount of evidence for it.
"It is a theory."
Yes, a SCIENTIFIC theory. You truly are ignorant about what science really entails. Study some more, read some books, then come back later.
MomoTheBellyDancer 10 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer
SCIENCE is not an answer it is in searchof one. that is why everything is a theory. there is absolutly no evidence to support evolution only "like" things ie. monkeys and humans. if in fact it was an answer it would explain the origin of anything. take a wooden bookshelf you can trace it back to the seed that the tree came from or even further but you will keep going further and further which science keeps doing untill
gabbe7 10 months ago
@gabbe7
"there is absolutly no evidence to support evolution"
Whoever has been telling you this has been lying to you. There is much more evidence for evolution than the mere similarity between organisms. Stop reading creationist websites and delve into the science.
MomoTheBellyDancer 10 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer
you must make things up "theory" though its logical in our minds we are stuck with someting coming from nothing. basic math here 0 + 0= 0 (real world) evolution 0+0= 40,000,000,000,000. do you see the simplicity of the faled attempt to take a creator out of the picture. if you dont you are a fool.
gabbe7 10 months ago
@gabbe7
"someting coming from nothing."
... has nothing to do with evolution, which deals with the development of life AFTER it appears.
"take a creator out of the picture"
There simply is no need for that hypothesis in science.
MomoTheBellyDancer 10 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer
actuallly the evolution debate deals with that statement exactly. or there would be no debate.
gabbe7 10 months ago
@gabbe7
"actuallly the evolution debate deals with that statement exactly. "
There is evolution debate within science. Yes, scientists debate about the specific mechanisms, but the occurrence of evolution is an observed, accepted fact.
MomoTheBellyDancer 10 months ago
why are people asking for proof of god,how can you proove god in the way you are speaking of,the whole point of god is believing.Thats why he never shows himself.
you really thinkwe came from nothing?
HOW,what the fuck was anything doing anywere in the first place?
pinball281 11 months ago
Someone below said creation is based on fact. LOOL Please produce the evidence? You will be the first EVER for any god.Just be a good person in spit of your religion. We will all be fine.
pumpstations 11 months ago
Darwin is fukin retarded
julioloaiza100 1 year ago
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GOD DOES NOT EXIST
MrScooty101 1 year ago
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Disregard religion for a moment...
Science makes us discover all the law of physics, law of inertia, law of gravity, etc.
The universe & the earth does not came by chance or probability. Scientist now argue coz all evidence points to a product of design. Their factor rate came to that conclusion. If by design, question is why? for what purpose? and by whom?
jandysanchez 1 year ago
It is not Evolution vs. Creationism - it should be Creation vs. Evolutionism or Creation vs. Darwinism.
Evolutionism is based on assumptions & conflicting reports.
Creation is based on facts & evidence & logical interpretations.
Eye2EyeIIIV 1 year ago
@Eye2EyeIIIV You are looking at the world through a mirror. You have it all backwards. There has never ever been a single shred of evidence to suggest creation. Not on a scientific basis.
Ematched 1 year ago
@Eye2EyeIIIV "Evolutionism is based on assumptions & conflicting reports.
Creation is based on facts & evidence & logical interpretations." Eye: Have you studied evolution and fully understand it? If you haven't, it's ok because it is very complex and I dont understand all of it myself. Science does not use speculation, magical thinking or evoking the supernatural It uses a very disciplined set of processes and unrelenting peer-review to take an idea to a fully accepted theory.
orangemod 1 year ago
@Eye2EyeIIIV If you have facts & evidence for creation, OTHER than in the bible, I would love to see it.
It is a well established fact that you cannot use something to prove itself.
HonestMan395 11 months ago 8
@HonestMan395 You are stuck on such trivialities your own faith cannot explain.Once you get past that, and realize we aren't accidents evolved from primordial pools of ooze, then you make an important first step. Next realize the presence of good and evil. Science cannot explain what is holding the universe together. Other than dark matter right? something we cant see or feel but it must be there right? seems science depends on faith more than you realize.humble yourself and seek truth.pm me plz
gammafreak 10 months ago
@gammafreak 1st As I don't have any faith, At least of any religious type, I cannot use it to explain anything, trivial or otherwise.
Quote: "Once you get past that, and realize we aren't accidents evolved from primordial pools of ooze,"
Actually, science (not a religion) can explain that, allowing for your flowery language, that is exactly what happened.
watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg
Good & evil, morality & ethics have nothing to do with religion. That's so old an argument it has whiskers Cont'd.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@gammafreak Morality and ethics are natural evolutionary processes and science does not rely on faith in any way. It relies on testable and verifiable evidence, whereas religion relies totally on blind faith as it has no evidence.
Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops.
Thankyou for the request to PM you, but I only do that when the 500 letter format is inadequate for what has to be said.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
You failed to shoot down the last part of my comment,and science is as much a faith as anything else,regardless whether it's evidence based or not.You are casting your lot in the fact that nothing exists unless it falls on your lap or if it can't be explained in so many words.I'm casting mine in the fact I experience knowing my creator on a personal level.Why does water boil? scientifically it can be explained away, but it has deeper meaning.Its boiling because i want tea. Think about it.
gammafreak 10 months ago
@HonestMan395 And by blind faith you are wrong. The more worldy humans become the less susceptible they are to the idea of the spiritual self. There are phenomena of the human brain that transcend "testable and verifiable" watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc
gammafreak 10 months ago
@HonestMan395
The basic flaw of all evolutionary views is the origin of the information in living beings. It has never been shown that a coding system and semantic information could originate by itself in a material medium, and the information theorems predict that this will never be possible. A purely material origin of life is thus precluded
gabbe7 10 months ago
@HonestMan395 Non-living chemicals cannot become alive on their own. The cell is a factory with many active processes, not a simple blob of “protoplasm” as believed in Darwin’s day. Lightening striking a mud puddle or some “warm little pond” will never produce life. .
gabbe7 10 months ago
@HonestMan395
This is another view of the core issue of information as the simplest living cell requires a vast amount of information to be present. The “Law of Biogenesis” states that life comes only from prior life. Spontaneous generation has long been shown to be impossible. Numerous efforts to bring life from non-life (including the famous Miller-Urey experiment) have not succeeded.
gabbe7 10 months ago
@gabbe7 Quote: "Numerous efforts to bring life from non-life (including the famous Miller-Urey experiment) have not succeeded."
Once again, you show your ignorance. Miller-Urey is very old research.
Check out the work going on at Harvard Medical school.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@HonestMan395
I have and they ave come to no conclusion on how something comes from nothing. NOTHING CANNOT MAKE SOMETHING, you need something. its common sense. I hope you get some soon.
gabbe7 10 months ago
@gabbe7 Your ignorant and arrogant reply makes me certain that you that you haven't even looked at their work.
If you had then you would know that it has nothing to do with the start of the universe, or nothing from nothing, as you call it.
Also, if you had, you should be able to tell me to tell me who the scientists are who are doing the work.
They are dealing with organic life from in-organic matter.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@gabbe7 Try to reproduce something that has happened over hundreds of millions of years in a smal lab experiment over a few days... Yeah right, we must have been created... NOT.
xmaneater 9 months ago
@xmaneater
the bases of the evolutionary argument is that given enough time anything is possible but what this argument is postulating is that "time" itself is eternal (it always was, always is and always will be). Because it has no explination for wher that cell or atom or whatever that began everything came from to believe in evolution you are believing that the matter that is eternal is in essence "God" in the sense that is eternal.
gabbe7 9 months ago
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@gabbe7
"to believe in evolution you are believing that the matter that is eternal is in essence "God" in the sense that is eternal."
Except that evolution is purely about biology.
The concept of an eternal God isn't universal. That just so happens to be a characteristic of your chosen God. There's no "belief" involved here...there are only conclusions drawn from evidence.
TheZooCrew 9 months ago
@HonestMan395 The probability of life forming from non-life has been likened to the probability of a tornado going through a junkyard and spontaneously assembling a working 747 airplane. The idea that life may have come from outer space just moves the problem elsewhere
gabbe7 10 months ago
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thesongsforlife1 10 months ago
@thesongsforlife1 The pyramids what?
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@HonestMan395 Never mind... :/
thesongsforlife1 10 months ago
@thesongsforlife1 No, I'm curious, I assume that you were commenting on my request to Eye2EyeIIIV regarding evidence. If that is so, I fail to see what the pyramids have to do with it.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@HonestMan395 Well I'll just tell you that if you study the pyramids PROPERLY you will know what I mean :)
thesongsforlife1 10 months ago
@thesongsforlife1 Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about or you would be able to answer a simple question. If you are suggesting that god made the pyramids, then either you are into spacemen and ufo's or you have not been keeping up with the latest research.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
@HonestMan395 I am not going to bother and yes I do keep up with the latest research and I am not trying to argue with you ok you asked for and answer from Eye2EyeIIIV but considering he was not answering your question I decided to do so instead please do not go thinking I am starting on you or anything because people for some reason are like that these days.
thesongsforlife1 10 months ago
@thesongsforlife1 Ok. It's up to you if you don't want to answer, and I thankyou for giving in gracefully and admitting defeat, because it is obvious that you don't have any answers.
How the pyramids were built is now fully understood and it has nothing to do with any gods.
HonestMan395 10 months ago
« I'll tell you... the pyramids...enough said »
Enough indeed. Be sure to watch out for chemtrails and UFO's now, hear me?
XGralgrathor 10 months ago
@HonestMan395 YES EXACTLY THANK YOU
Smoshisownage 9 months ago
@Smoshisownage Your welcome.
HonestMan395 9 months ago
@Eye2EyeIIIV HAHAHA! Evolution is based on evidence that you refuse to acknowledge, facts that you refuse to accept and observations that you refuse to see. Creation is based on a sigle bronze-age book that tries to justify its own existence, a book full of B.S. and horrible stories centered around a horrible character. Science is logic. Faith is irrationnal, illogical and based on authority. If you can't face this, you are closing your eyes on the world you live in.
xmaneater 9 months ago
if god is real, how come he doesnt intervene when PeoPle really need helP, sayyyy tsunami.........
eli1324 1 year ago
want to be the Greatest Leader, the leader that takes humanity to a new age of peace.
TheGodofWarmars 1 year ago
I know who I follow - Jesus Christ. Who do you follow? What is the mans name that you follow, because you are following the teachings of a person. Who is he.
What you pursue, you worship.
DavidofChrist777 1 year ago
@DavidofChrist777
"I know who I follow - Jesus Christ."
The same Jesus who plagiarized both the philosophies and magic tricks of: Pythagoreas, Dionysius, Buddah, and Confucious (just to name a few)???
"Who do you follow?"
Carl Sagan?
Either him or the God Emperor of Mankind. But I'm pretty sure they are one in the same.
"because you are following the teachings of a person."
And you aren't? Of course you are!
"What you pursue, you worship."
I pursue knowledge, so yes
tskasa1 1 year ago
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All people want power, when people belive in god beleve they have power and people how argue think they lose power if god exists people become defensive when you remove power.
TheGodofWarmars 1 year ago
All people want power, when people belive in god beleve they have power and people how argue think they lose power if god exists people become defensive when you remove power.
TheGodofWarmars 1 year ago
I just read on Yahoo the other day that scientists have discovered the probable cause of life in the universe.......I thought they already did ?
jmallton 1 year ago
@jmallton
the media tends to drag out old discoveries every once in a while.
pyr666 1 year ago
They simply have a psychological yearning for a god. Let them explain why an intelligent creator would create things in such a way, and let them also explain why they worship an evil god.
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dreimdmon 1 year ago
people think its crazy that God created the earth in seven days because PEOPLE are looking at it from a HUMAN perspective... either u believe the bible or u dont theres no reason to be uncivilized and not accept that some agree and disagree. my friends just think of it this way if the God of the Universe could part the red sea for Moses with the snap of his finger. whether you believe it or not a HUMAN has no idea how easy or difficult it was for God to create the heavens and the earth...
rw77789 1 year ago
Is it just me or does the last guy just prove that religion doestn take much effort
MrBadham 2 years ago
And Adam and Eve is simply a parable. It explains evolution easily and understandible.
LordVili 2 years ago
Has anyone thought that maybe evolution is Gods creation. 2 thousand years ago I don't think that people would have understood the things that we know today so the Bible is full of parables that explained Everything what God had made more understandible way. Today people think that it's stupid to think that all exictence was created in 7 days etc.
Maybe it was really made in 7 hundred million years but it was easier to explain to the people back then. Think about it.
LordVili 2 years ago
Yes you can interperet the bible to fit with modern understandings if you realy want to.
But in the end whats the point? There are so many religions with whacked out stories all from primitive people.
Why bother believing it at all?
goingtoeatpizza 1 year ago
Yeah maybe your right. But if you don't believe you aren't really living. And oh yeah. I need to ask this but if Gabriel was the one who informed Mohammed that there's only one god and Gabriel was our Gods angel then does it mean that Islam and Christianity have the same God?
LordVili 1 year ago
I beg to differ. Why do you need faith in superstition to fullfill your life?
If somone comes up with an outrages idea but offers no evidence for it but expects you to dedicate your life to it without question dosnt that seem like a scam?
Superstition sucks in gullible people from the housands of different religions to horoscopes and alternative medicine.
Irational belief without evidence is a waste of existance and belittles the human mind.
goingtoeatpizza 1 year ago
Well I think it will remain as a mystery if the is a God.
LordVili 1 year ago
@LordVili im not disputing wether there is a god or not because no one knows and that shows the hypocrisy of religion.
Each different religion claims that their god is the true god and the others as superstition but offer no evidence to support their claims and in most cases fly in the face of modern scientific facts.
Anyone who says that they know without a shadow of a doubt what happens when you die is either a complete liar or a fool.
Religious superstition is nothing but detramental
goingtoeatpizza 1 year ago
@LordVili Actually they do. But the difference is Jesus.
terisian 1 year ago
@LordVili LOOOL NICE TRY!!
0Justice911 1 year ago
@0Justice911
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LordVili 1 year ago
@LordVili Or maybe... you are just another sheep stuck in one of the millions of religions human kind has created over the course of its existence.
xmaneater 9 months ago
@xmaneater
I hate atheists. Not because they don't believe in God but because they are so depressing. Anyone can throw in argument like "You're just one of those religious maniacs! You are wrong."
Answer what I was searching was that someone with neutral point of view would discuss with me not someone who immediately says that I am too confused or stupid to understand.
LordVili 9 months ago