But it gets worse.. Information reported on the organization's most recent Form 990 has Paul Crouch’s & Janice Crouch’s at total over a million each... No Tax Benny Hinn paid... over 2 million a yr.
Eugenics has nothing to do with national socialism.
Eugenics are a theory to counter the issue of us human having reached a level where we no longer have any natural predators and are multiplying in a way that is not healthy for our species or the planet. It can't be good for mankind, when the dumbest breed like roaches and the intelligent can barely afford 1 child because they have to pay welfare for the rest.
all u people who are talking about the preacher in a mean way needs to shut the fuck up may the preacher forgive him and the lord wonder if the attacker forgave him
"evolution leads to the idea that there is no GOD " What ever happened to thou shalt not lie?. . . Because you sir just did. . . The majority of people who accept evolution also believe in god.
You clearly have no idea what evolution is if you think it's a world view. . . It's just as much of a world view as gravity.
How pathetic you also try to invoke godwins law. . . Well if evolution had anything to do with hitler then why were darwins works BANNED in nazi germany?
Hitler and the Nazis were fanatic christians. I know, because I'm German and my Grandfather was in the Wehrmacht. They had to swear on the bible and in some units Atheists were not allowed.
Replace the word evolution with eugenics and you would be correct. Ethnic cleansing has been going on well before the discovery of evolution. His desire of the "final solution" was not based on evolution, again evolution is a scientific theory, there is nothing in the theory of evolution about mass extermination. It was born out of hatred of Jews nothing more. You attempt to stain evolution as a theory. Do you have evidence that Hitler read origin of species and thought hmm lets kill Jews?
@shandorejunk Hitler was an asshole who hated Jews. The theory of evolution had nothing to do with it. Even if Hitler agreed with the Theory of evolution it has notthing to do with it. Hitlers Catholic upbringing doesn't call into quetion all catholics. You might argue that Christianity with all its anti Jewish mentality helped contribute but again thats also immoral dispersion. There was a cultural hatred of jews in Europe Hitler was antisemetic. Thats what lead to the holocaust. Hatred
Read a book. Hitler killed those Christians who opposed him. Many so called Christians remained silent. Bonhoeffer and other true Christians opposed him and were killed for it.
That is a lie commonly said as truth. Hitler was a devout evolutionist and a disciple of Nietzche, an avowed atheist and existentialist. In the Holocaust, Hitler killed 6 million Jews but also 2 million Christians.
@doright48 devout evolutionist is a contradiction in terms. Evolution is not a religion however much morons like you want it to be. The Hitler arguement is a shit one, whichever group uses it. Hitler was a nasty man, he was also a Vegetarian. Damn those naughty vegetarians!
"devout" is not a religious term. It is used both as a adjective and adverb. It means "very devoted" , and in this case it is used to describe his wholehearted belief in an evolutionary world view. The whole extermination of the "weaker" Jewish race was for "the final solution" of how to rid the world of what he saw as a corrupt blood line. If can't see the relevance of his evolutionist beliefs and his actions you are blind.
@doright48 You know what, this is a corrupt aguement. You talking about eugenics the idea of a "perfect man" not the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution is a scientific theory, it doesn't call for mass extermination. Do some reading stupid person. Fuck I can't believe people like you exist, morally corrupt and dishonest. Hitler was an evolutionist therefore evolution is BAD, how much more retarded an opinion can you get! Creotard!
Shandorejunk, do you know anything other than cussing and insults? I have a BA in Political Science, a Juris Doctorate in Law from a well respected University, a Masters Degree in Religion from a world known Theological Seminary, 35 years as a attorney in state and Federal court, including 14 as an elected criminal prosecutor. Do believe people like I exist. We lock up fools like you and let you clean our pools. Remember, the original question was did Hitler think he was doing "God's work".
@doright48 WTF! I was having a crack at your dispersion connecting Hitler and Evolution, which I think is a corrupt argument, and as an atorney I'm sure you would agree, and you threaten to lock me up? Hitler was doing Hitlers work. It shouldn't be used as an argument against or for religion. Lock me up for what exactly, dismissing your argument for what it is. If you really are a lawyer make a valid argument next time. Hitlers Eugenics "aryian race" opinions aren't evolutionist ideas.
Listen very closely. My original post was a response to one who said "Hitler thought he was doing God's work". My response was that is a common lie, that Hitler was not a Christian, but an evolutionist and existentialist. I am not saying every person who is a believer in evolution is a Hitler, but that Hitler was greatly influenced by evolutionist thought, not religion. His desire for the "final solution" of the "inferior Jews" and the purification of the "master race' was based on evolution.
@doright48 Eugenics or the idea of creating a pure race is not a new idea. It has been occuring for hundreds of years. The Egyptians used to deliberately couple slaves of "perferred traits". You potray evolution as an ideology that leads to thinking such as eugenics, buts its not a religion or ideology, its a scientific explanation of empirical evidence nothing more. I doubt that evolution influenced him to kill jews don't you see you're making that same ill founded argument that you oppose.
Nope. My statement is Hitler was not motivated by a delusion that he "was doing God's will" as someone stated in a post that started all this. Nothing more. His view of mankind as the end result of an evolutionary process led him to view some races as inferior, others superior. He believed that Jews were "subhuman" and that the German's were the superior human race that had a destiny to rule all mankind. This is an undisputed fact of history.. Read a quality book and see it is true. Good by.
I agree with absolutely everything you say. I just don't agree unfounded LINK between between the theory of evolution and Hitler, its a dishonest one. Just like someone saying that because Hitler was brought up a Christian and believed he was doing Gods will killing Jews implies Christianity influenced Hitler to become a mass murderer, both are dishonest arguments. You are a complete hypocrite.
If you can't understand what I am saying by this time, I can't help you. As to me being a "complete hypocrite", that is a foolish statement considering you know nothing about me. I'm going to bed man. There will be no uther response to your posts. Your willfully blind and it is a waste of my time. Good night and good luck!
swordsman3000, don't be like that. i'm sorry you've been offended by christianity but you really have to trust me on this one.. it's real. God is real, ok? look around. the more you learn the more it will make sense. no other "god" has such love and power at the same time. He's desperate for you.
@procrastin8r89 reallym well I've been praying to The speggheti monster for awhile and nothing has happened, maybe your imaginary sky pirate is the answer I've been looking for. praise the lord your simplistic statement a 3 year old could make has converted me (NOT) just replace God with santa and I've made my point.
Children are the only people that speak the truth anymore. And replacing God with Santa, I understand what you're saying, but that's just it--you're not taking the Creator of the Universe seriously. I don't get answers to the things I ask God all the time, but He is God. Doesn't he do enough by answering, giving his word, by giving us eternal life?
@procrastin8r89 No your right, I'm not taking an invisible man in the sky seriously. Theres no evidence for God and there never will be. I don't hear voices in my head, do you? If you do here god answering i suggest you see a head doctor seriously.
If you want to find a real church, look for a remnant church, which teaches suffering, love to one another.Not on those prosperity teacher who teaches money, if you are in Christ you will become rich in love, and carrying your own cross.
God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die
but will have eternal life.God sent his Son into the world, not to? condemn the world, but to save
the worldThose who believe in him won't be condemned. But those who don't believe are already
condemned because they don't believe in God's only son.This is why people are condemned: The light came into the world. Yet people loved the dark rather than the light because their actions were evil
Huh. That's pretty stupid to punch someone. Sure, I would understand if the preacher was preaching something horrible like racism or homophobia... but forgiveness? WTF MATE
this was set up by the preacher and his ministeryslook at the black guy clear a way for the man and the preacher tries to move the lady in front of him by touching her hand look
I don`t get you. First you say you are NOT an atheist, then you say the preacher is selling a myth. What do you actually believe? Do you think that Our Lord Jesus Christ is a myth? The bible says God is NOT mocked, whatsoever man sows...he will reap. Why have you hardend your heart towards God...he loves you man. I am thankful for what Jesus Christ did for me at the cross and in the ressurection. I will thank God everyday until I draw my last breath. Jesus Christ is NO MYTH.
God is everywhere, is everything. Everything is God. There's no need to collect money or have taxes reduced for adding a storyline to something so simple as that.
Act 14:15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
Let me make this easy for you You're going to throw bible quotes at me proclaiming 'Truth"...You can't help yourself...You just gotta "Spread the Gospel" I'm going to repsond with common sense logic You're going to repsond with more bible quotes More logic More bible quotes Logic Quotes Logic..... I'm sure you get the point....You have NOTHING I want to hear This includes all the typical x-tian threats of fire-n-brimstone...and fake compassion for my "Poor Lost Soul" Go away
To the person who was "tickled": I think this tells everyone reading your very sad comment what kind of parents raised you. Clearly you were raised by shitty parents. Assaulting people is WRONG. Please don`t bring kids into the world.
LOL...all talk and no action for how many years now?? STFU up go think about what you would do to me if you werent such a pathetic loser who never amounted to anything and then craft a witty but dark and threating response. :)
I'm an atheist and that almost made me cry. Seriously, it was depressing to see an old man get punched for no reason. And mjames430, you're full of shit.
Perhaps the attacker used to be an alter boy who's now got some priest/preacher issues. Would like to have seen an interview with the attacker to see what made him so crazy. Nice punch, crappy reporting.
CLEARLY IF ANYONE HAD AN EYE FOR EVIL YOU WILL CLEARLY SEE THAT THIS MAN IS POSSESSED.HE HAS DEAMONS IN HIM AND THEY COULDN'T STAND UP AGAINST THE POWERFULNESS OF THE LORD AT THAT ALTER.When deamons get mad they do anything 2 cause an interruption and they will take over a person without their consent.Its a very sad thing.I've seen it right before my eyes numerous times.They begin to speak in a very deep voice and a different language and become supernaturally strong.Its scary but you have2 pray
to all the atheistic and skeptics, what reesebabyg is saiying is absolutely true. demons do exist and can definetly take over a person totally.(think of ghost rider.)the one thing that i would difer is that a person does not get taken over unless he actually invites the demon into him
Eh? Paranoia ALERT. The religious world seems to be a very scary one, xD But, you live your meaningful lives, with hell and burning and demons, im too occupied with everyday things.
I am a professional rugby player and I am commited christian and my church is full of rugby players. If this dude did this in my church. We will definately teach him a lesson that he will never forget for the rest of his wonderful life.(just use your imagination)
id like to say something people who hear jesus say oooo stop that offends me so much! yet when you athiests say ujusesu is gay and a fag and stuff no one can do anything this country was put into religion now look at it not as many people belive jesus here like 1 every infinite yet we have an extremely high crime rate american tv such as family guy is themain tv show why we cant believe in religion cause they dont believe in it and they just wont shut up with their jesus jokes
Fuck you bitch... What has Atheism done for the country... nothing,so you can shut the fuck up!!! I am not a church going person, but i do believe in God.... I'm not gonna talk shit, but I'm gonna be laughing my head off when you're burning in hell!!!
Hey dude, I just got your reply, and not sorry to say, I didn't write that, one of my sons freinds did, and I am church going, and glad you believe. that punch wasn't right.
wow...i love how there are those who defend christianity like you do with such a mouth to shit in and your comment on "laughing your head off while someone is burning in hell" shows how "ungodly" you actually are. peace and harmony :)
Well, it can be. It involves putting your ego aside. And turning the other cheek and loving your neighbour or enemy are pretty tough guide-lines to follow for most people. Far easier to pay lip service to than to bring it into practice when you get in a situation, I grant you that.
I don't think it's right for any of us to come to conclusions without looking at all the facts about the incident. The video gives no motive or reason for the hit. To conclude that he's molester or a total fake is wrong and illogical. Find the real facts, then make up your mind. (The guy probably did have a good reason though...or he could have been "demon" possessed...which IS possible but unlikely. lol)
Actually, this is my pastor, and this man has a past history of seeing how many preachers he can punch. He did the same thing to Rochard Roberts several years before. Pastor visited this man in jail later and refused to press charges and forgave him. If you knew Pastor Billy Joe you would know that to term this as a set up would be a laughable thing.
I go to VCC. After that happened their were stitches on his face for a few weeks. Why would he stage that, it doesn't make sense. Oh yeah & one more thing in the early 90's his house burned down & he was homeless for months so I guess he staged that too right?? You people need to worry about your own selves & your own beliefs.
LOL this is biased bullshit for ONE simple fact that the audio is POORLY edited by adding a COCONUT-clonk and a fake scream that CLEARLY does NOT belong in there. (also note the fox news logo). THUS NOTHING YOU SEE THERE even closely represents the real event!
what the fuck are you talking about??? "coconut clonk"? where the fuck did you hear that? and that scream you hear is someone in the audience of the show on fox reacting. if you paid attention you closed minded liberal, you would notice that the show is in front of a live audience and they are just showing the clip for them. gotta love these stupid ass liberals, so hell bent on finding "bias" they imagine shit, meanwhile cnn runs programs called "broken america" critiquing george bush. idiot.
Is it me, or do Atheists preach more than Christians? Calm down, people. There's no need to insult other people's religion. By doing that, you're only setting a bad example to whatever religious affiliation (or lack of affiliation) you're aligned with.
Anyways, it looks like something a griefer would do on an online video game.
Dare to degrade this DISCUSSION or commenting down to preaching.
Also atheism is NOT about a lack of affiliation. Not being part of "in a god believing" organisations/associations does not exclude organisations/associations in general.
I agree in one point, that the swearing above is unconstructive (even though I dont give a shit for constructive swearing, for not believing in swearing)
a slap in the face in bible times was ment as a insult,to turn the other cheek was ment to say that we should not let others provoke us into rage.not ment to say that we should not defend ourselfs or the state we live in.jesus had to defend himself on a number of occasions,the isrealite as a nation also had to defend themselves.
Interesting. Didn't know about the self defense yet. Thanks for the information.
But Iraq never was a question of self defense. And the government also went into rage about 9/11 and punished people that had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Freedom of speech. Have you heard of this one before? You have the right to believe in jesus and I have the right not to. And if you are not able to accept that then perhaps it is best YOU leave the us.
God is about peace and love? Have you ever read the Bible? All God does is blow shit up and kill people for disobeying him. If you believe they had it coming, that's hatred and violence right there.
Most Christians haven't really read the Bible all the way through, though. Very few Christians came to God through their own study and research, most were born into Christian families, just as most racist people were simply raised that way.
it's not about reading it through.its about reading, understanding, and applying it to your daily life. God is love, but He is also fire-consuming, as it says in the bible. but you have to look at what the people did for God to take action on certain things: and whatever God did, he did for a reason, or he permitted things to happen for such reasons. I don't neccesarily think "they had it coming", but for every action there is a consequence.
fucking christians, beleive evryting there told, there just scared dat when they die, they aint goin no where, all dis bulshit bout ur "soul" getting taken 2 heaven and hell bulshit, get real i mean whats da point in worshipping a god hu aint there
It looks like a fake punch though... I think they staged it just like they stage the fukking fainting bullshit. Fuck America. Fuck the lies. I've been destroyed by this sick religion. These fucks don't even know the god they believe in.
Fuckin Fuck yeah. Fuckin fucks! Fuck I was all like fucking agreeing with your fucking shit! Fuck! But I couldn't fucking see through the fucking fuckshit to get to the fucking point.
In other words, teen angst is best spent on something that CAN make a difference. ....Just sayin....no hard feelings d00d. ;)
I found out later from another program that he was released from a mental institution before coming to that church, so you don't have to be angry about something to punch someone in the face when you have mental problems.
Hmm how funny,a homeless man who I will bet no one saw before or since this incident who "punches" the preacher who convienently had a sermon on this very topic, along with well placed cameras and to top it off with a cherry on top someone sent this into the news (I wonder who?) which I guess means you can forgive someone but.. be sure to make a spectacle out of them on national tv!
Ladies and Gentlement behold the gullibility of americans!
88 is my birthyear, nothing to do with Nazi's. God is about love and thats it. Media will always attack Christians, despite the honest values that are created for Christianity. I know there are people who claim to be Christians who are not perfect, and the world is quick to tell them. But we're not perfect, just forgiven. Thats all. Jesus is the only way guys, the only one
A real christian doesn't need to wear it on his sleeve. Humility?
Absorbing a pre-made identity can be helpful when you're 18, but the real world has complicated problems that often do not fit into the boxes christianity has equipped you with.
That's ashame that all these people are ridiculing this man when he got punched in the face by a man. Ya'all ought to be ashamed of yourselves! Is this what this world has come to? So I guess that was afke blood coming out of his eye, too. Ridiculous!
I was there, thats Victory Christian Center in Tulsa Oklahoma.Pastor Daugherty later forgave that homeless man who punched him, LIKE A REAL CHRISTIAN DOES.
some people just need a high five, in the face,with a chair.
maestro4110 2 months ago
He sholud be punched with a baseball bat.
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Under a mask, Jim Jones with out the kool aid.
But it gets worse.. Information reported on the organization's most recent Form 990 has Paul Crouch’s & Janice Crouch’s at total over a million each... No Tax Benny Hinn paid... over 2 million a yr.
onstageagain 1 year ago
COMPLETELY FAKE. He was punched on the right side yet blood shows up on the left. False Christian preacher.
whydidJesussaveme 1 year ago 3
@whydidJesussaveme apart from that fact the video is very convincing
netandful 1 year ago
@whydidJesussaveme hahahahahahahahaha your an idiot
ConspiracyClown 1 year ago
@candiceevans1
Eugenics has nothing to do with national socialism.
Eugenics are a theory to counter the issue of us human having reached a level where we no longer have any natural predators and are multiplying in a way that is not healthy for our species or the planet. It can't be good for mankind, when the dumbest breed like roaches and the intelligent can barely afford 1 child because they have to pay welfare for the rest.
Kuner1 1 year ago
all u people who are talking about the preacher in a mean way needs to shut the fuck up may the preacher forgive him and the lord wonder if the attacker forgave him
siaty1 1 year ago
what a sad, weak ass punch. At the very least actually really get his ass good and put him on the ground.
JohnS0045 1 year ago
Would be interesting to know what the precher said or whether he screwed the man's son.
I'm just sayin'.
EPR89 1 year ago
@candiceevans1
Yeah, and you get pestered by little green goblins who hide in your closet and only come out when you sleep.
ml497 1 year ago
19000000000 that guys a atheist
thatguy4717 1 year ago
@candiceevans1
"evolution leads to the idea that there is no GOD " What ever happened to thou shalt not lie?. . . Because you sir just did. . . The majority of people who accept evolution also believe in god.
You clearly have no idea what evolution is if you think it's a world view. . . It's just as much of a world view as gravity.
How pathetic you also try to invoke godwins law. . . Well if evolution had anything to do with hitler then why were darwins works BANNED in nazi germany?
manhunt48 1 year ago 3
@manhunt48
Hitler and the Nazis were fanatic christians. I know, because I'm German and my Grandfather was in the Wehrmacht. They had to swear on the bible and in some units Atheists were not allowed.
Kuner1 1 year ago
This guy just fufilled my dreams. Except instead of a fist it was a baseball bat, but still good enough
UrbaDerpal 1 year ago
@UrbaDerpal You're sick.
pottershand 1 year ago
What a genious PR stunt!
Winter077 1 year ago
probably deserved it.
RoyalRamirez 1 year ago
that was a set-up! so he can pretend to be a forgiving me.
Muslimprincess79 1 year ago
Replace the word evolution with eugenics and you would be correct. Ethnic cleansing has been going on well before the discovery of evolution. His desire of the "final solution" was not based on evolution, again evolution is a scientific theory, there is nothing in the theory of evolution about mass extermination. It was born out of hatred of Jews nothing more. You attempt to stain evolution as a theory. Do you have evidence that Hitler read origin of species and thought hmm lets kill Jews?
shandorejunk 2 years ago
@shandorejunk Hitler was an asshole who hated Jews. The theory of evolution had nothing to do with it. Even if Hitler agreed with the Theory of evolution it has notthing to do with it. Hitlers Catholic upbringing doesn't call into quetion all catholics. You might argue that Christianity with all its anti Jewish mentality helped contribute but again thats also immoral dispersion. There was a cultural hatred of jews in Europe Hitler was antisemetic. Thats what lead to the holocaust. Hatred
shandorejunk 2 years ago
i bet that was staged
..these preachers will do anything to prove a point
cowboydan0 2 years ago
Read a book. Hitler killed those Christians who opposed him. Many so called Christians remained silent. Bonhoeffer and other true Christians opposed him and were killed for it.
doright48 2 years ago
Hitler thought he was doing Gods work, too
foxtrck2 2 years ago
That is a lie commonly said as truth. Hitler was a devout evolutionist and a disciple of Nietzche, an avowed atheist and existentialist. In the Holocaust, Hitler killed 6 million Jews but also 2 million Christians.
doright48 2 years ago
he only killed that many christians because just about everyone in europe then was a christian, he never set out to specifically kill them
yngvaibucketrucci 2 years ago
@doright48 devout evolutionist is a contradiction in terms. Evolution is not a religion however much morons like you want it to be. The Hitler arguement is a shit one, whichever group uses it. Hitler was a nasty man, he was also a Vegetarian. Damn those naughty vegetarians!
shandorejunk 2 years ago
"devout" is not a religious term. It is used both as a adjective and adverb. It means "very devoted" , and in this case it is used to describe his wholehearted belief in an evolutionary world view. The whole extermination of the "weaker" Jewish race was for "the final solution" of how to rid the world of what he saw as a corrupt blood line. If can't see the relevance of his evolutionist beliefs and his actions you are blind.
doright48 2 years ago
@doright48 You know what, this is a corrupt aguement. You talking about eugenics the idea of a "perfect man" not the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution is a scientific theory, it doesn't call for mass extermination. Do some reading stupid person. Fuck I can't believe people like you exist, morally corrupt and dishonest. Hitler was an evolutionist therefore evolution is BAD, how much more retarded an opinion can you get! Creotard!
shandorejunk 2 years ago
Shandorejunk, do you know anything other than cussing and insults? I have a BA in Political Science, a Juris Doctorate in Law from a well respected University, a Masters Degree in Religion from a world known Theological Seminary, 35 years as a attorney in state and Federal court, including 14 as an elected criminal prosecutor. Do believe people like I exist. We lock up fools like you and let you clean our pools. Remember, the original question was did Hitler think he was doing "God's work".
doright48 2 years ago
@doright48 WTF! I was having a crack at your dispersion connecting Hitler and Evolution, which I think is a corrupt argument, and as an atorney I'm sure you would agree, and you threaten to lock me up? Hitler was doing Hitlers work. It shouldn't be used as an argument against or for religion. Lock me up for what exactly, dismissing your argument for what it is. If you really are a lawyer make a valid argument next time. Hitlers Eugenics "aryian race" opinions aren't evolutionist ideas.
shandorejunk 2 years ago
Listen very closely. My original post was a response to one who said "Hitler thought he was doing God's work". My response was that is a common lie, that Hitler was not a Christian, but an evolutionist and existentialist. I am not saying every person who is a believer in evolution is a Hitler, but that Hitler was greatly influenced by evolutionist thought, not religion. His desire for the "final solution" of the "inferior Jews" and the purification of the "master race' was based on evolution.
doright48 2 years ago
@doright48 Eugenics or the idea of creating a pure race is not a new idea. It has been occuring for hundreds of years. The Egyptians used to deliberately couple slaves of "perferred traits". You potray evolution as an ideology that leads to thinking such as eugenics, buts its not a religion or ideology, its a scientific explanation of empirical evidence nothing more. I doubt that evolution influenced him to kill jews don't you see you're making that same ill founded argument that you oppose.
shandorejunk 2 years ago
Nope. My statement is Hitler was not motivated by a delusion that he "was doing God's will" as someone stated in a post that started all this. Nothing more. His view of mankind as the end result of an evolutionary process led him to view some races as inferior, others superior. He believed that Jews were "subhuman" and that the German's were the superior human race that had a destiny to rule all mankind. This is an undisputed fact of history.. Read a quality book and see it is true. Good by.
doright48 2 years ago
I agree with absolutely everything you say. I just don't agree unfounded LINK between between the theory of evolution and Hitler, its a dishonest one. Just like someone saying that because Hitler was brought up a Christian and believed he was doing Gods will killing Jews implies Christianity influenced Hitler to become a mass murderer, both are dishonest arguments. You are a complete hypocrite.
shandorejunk 2 years ago
If you can't understand what I am saying by this time, I can't help you. As to me being a "complete hypocrite", that is a foolish statement considering you know nothing about me. I'm going to bed man. There will be no uther response to your posts. Your willfully blind and it is a waste of my time. Good night and good luck!
doright48 2 years ago
swordsman3000, don't be like that. i'm sorry you've been offended by christianity but you really have to trust me on this one.. it's real. God is real, ok? look around. the more you learn the more it will make sense. no other "god" has such love and power at the same time. He's desperate for you.
procrastin8r89 2 years ago
Please, go to science class.
LawrenceRooney 2 years ago
lmao @ u
foxtrck2 2 years ago
god isn't real sorry
yngvaibucketrucci 2 years ago
@procrastin8r89 reallym well I've been praying to The speggheti monster for awhile and nothing has happened, maybe your imaginary sky pirate is the answer I've been looking for. praise the lord your simplistic statement a 3 year old could make has converted me (NOT) just replace God with santa and I've made my point.
shandorejunk 2 years ago
Children are the only people that speak the truth anymore. And replacing God with Santa, I understand what you're saying, but that's just it--you're not taking the Creator of the Universe seriously. I don't get answers to the things I ask God all the time, but He is God. Doesn't he do enough by answering, giving his word, by giving us eternal life?
procrastin8r89 2 years ago
@procrastin8r89 No your right, I'm not taking an invisible man in the sky seriously. Theres no evidence for God and there never will be. I don't hear voices in my head, do you? If you do here god answering i suggest you see a head doctor seriously.
shandorejunk 2 years ago
You're funny. Since when does a belief require evidence? lol
procrastin8r89 2 years ago
If you want to find a real church, look for a remnant church, which teaches suffering, love to one another.Not on those prosperity teacher who teaches money, if you are in Christ you will become rich in love, and carrying your own cross.
crynme 2 years ago
I'm as blank as a Fart! That makes no sense!
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God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die
but will have eternal life.God sent his Son into the world, not to? condemn the world, but to save
the worldThose who believe in him won't be condemned. But those who don't believe are already
condemned because they don't believe in God's only son.This is why people are condemned: The light came into the world. Yet people loved the dark rather than the light because their actions were evil
valu777 2 years ago
dude this guy is at a mental hospital and my mom talk to him about it iguess he thout he was cool after
XxXreedemerXxX 2 years ago
Huh. That's pretty stupid to punch someone. Sure, I would understand if the preacher was preaching something horrible like racism or homophobia... but forgiveness? WTF MATE
fireemblem1992 2 years ago
this was set up by the preacher and his ministeryslook at the black guy clear a way for the man and the preacher tries to move the lady in front of him by touching her hand look
Eddrownedadogg 3 years ago
To Pimpsoldier.
I don`t get you. First you say you are NOT an atheist, then you say the preacher is selling a myth. What do you actually believe? Do you think that Our Lord Jesus Christ is a myth? The bible says God is NOT mocked, whatsoever man sows...he will reap. Why have you hardend your heart towards God...he loves you man. I am thankful for what Jesus Christ did for me at the cross and in the ressurection. I will thank God everyday until I draw my last breath. Jesus Christ is NO MYTH.
weretheguys 3 years ago
God is everywhere, is everything. Everything is God. There's no need to collect money or have taxes reduced for adding a storyline to something so simple as that.
midinerd 2 years ago
0:05
midinerd 2 years ago
National burn your Bible day December 25th 2012
interested976 3 years ago
21st you mean.
zodiackilla 3 years ago
why would u burn a bible
thats a desired death wish r u begg-ing to die
guerrerro472 2 years ago
I burnned my bible 3 years ago...The 2nd best day of my life...The birth of my son #1
I'm still alive, well, and better than ever
Free of that non-sensical, tyranical horse-shit
swordsman3000 2 years ago
Act 14:15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
valu777 2 years ago
swordsman3000 2 years ago
GOD BLESS U!!!
m1o1n1k1 2 years ago
lmao. hail to the antichrist superstar
WishingXBelowXDreams 3 years ago
sorry people, you can thumb me down if you want but i have to say this..PWNED
Mudboy202 3 years ago 12
To the person who was "tickled": I think this tells everyone reading your very sad comment what kind of parents raised you. Clearly you were raised by shitty parents. Assaulting people is WRONG. Please don`t bring kids into the world.
weretheguys 3 years ago
no but he makes his money by selling myth
pimpsoldier0 3 years ago
Haha, just look at the puncher's face when he throws that punch! You can see him utter something like "HAVETHATYABASTARD!". That really tickled me.
warrenlaidler 3 years ago
This man was demon possessed! Satan used him to get at God's people. It obvious here!
rudiger517 3 years ago
Maybe he realised that it was this Priest who raped him when he was a child,..
jobibi 3 years ago
Go Man ! Kill Him ! Ha ha ha ha ha
mokogintaz 3 years ago
Seeing all the comments, it makes me chuckle when atheists claim religious people are the violent ones.
zwalkr 3 years ago
seeing ur comment, it doesnt surprise me why ur weak brain so easily believes in space man. im not atheist but i promote doubt.
pimpsoldier0 3 years ago
Ummm...what? Space?
zwalkr 3 years ago
this guy just did what i've wanted to do since the age of 10. except my plan had more blood.
Calebmoyer 3 years ago 3
LOL...all talk and no action for how many years now?? STFU up go think about what you would do to me if you werent such a pathetic loser who never amounted to anything and then craft a witty but dark and threating response. :)
Survivalist2theEnd 3 years ago
I would love to see a video of a preacher getting totally fucked up... anyone got a link?
foxtrck2 3 years ago
Good job.
itsbizbuz 3 years ago
Pity he didn't connect too well.
stevebritgimp 3 years ago
More people should start punching preachers; it's the least they deserve for spreading B.S. lies.
pjm5057 3 years ago
Wow, kudos to the preacher!
1joker88 3 years ago 7
To mjames430
You're wrong ! He's got lotterey $5000 !
mokogintaz 3 years ago
maybe the guy was tryin to knock a demon out of him
meak911 3 years ago
LMAO
damoo 3 years ago
HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
jonklow96 3 years ago
that guy that punched him is my mother every second Friday.
camjerlams 3 years ago
That was soooo FREAKING HILARIOUS!
doobiesmoke15 3 years ago
that man was the devil, u can see it
certifiedma8701 3 years ago 2
I'm an atheist and that almost made me cry. Seriously, it was depressing to see an old man get punched for no reason. And mjames430, you're full of shit.
TheDeathSage 3 years ago
the guy who punched him died in a car accident later that day
mjames430 4 years ago
oh really damn y did he hit him
lilhoodstar91 3 years ago
Perhaps the attacker used to be an alter boy who's now got some priest/preacher issues. Would like to have seen an interview with the attacker to see what made him so crazy. Nice punch, crappy reporting.
adminbud 4 years ago
did anyone else notice that he was bleeding from the oppisite eye. he got punched in the right but was bleeding from the left
Alregard 4 years ago
The devil is a LIE....
hesaves777 4 years ago
i dont get it..what did he do in order to get punched like that?
abenjam2 4 years ago 3
Christian fucker got it GOOD, hahahhaha
NewWaveNinja 4 years ago
We all have to forgive each other - turn the other cheek. After all, christ decended lower than us all to save us all - are we greater than him?
Bens39 4 years ago
CLEARLY IF ANYONE HAD AN EYE FOR EVIL YOU WILL CLEARLY SEE THAT THIS MAN IS POSSESSED.HE HAS DEAMONS IN HIM AND THEY COULDN'T STAND UP AGAINST THE POWERFULNESS OF THE LORD AT THAT ALTER.When deamons get mad they do anything 2 cause an interruption and they will take over a person without their consent.Its a very sad thing.I've seen it right before my eyes numerous times.They begin to speak in a very deep voice and a different language and become supernaturally strong.Its scary but you have2 pray
reesebabyg 4 years ago
to all the atheistic and skeptics, what reesebabyg is saiying is absolutely true. demons do exist and can definetly take over a person totally.(think of ghost rider.)the one thing that i would difer is that a person does not get taken over unless he actually invites the demon into him
dwxyz 4 years ago
Eh? Paranoia ALERT. The religious world seems to be a very scary one, xD But, you live your meaningful lives, with hell and burning and demons, im too occupied with everyday things.
dinnj 4 years ago
It wasnt always that way, 50 years ago we all would have had plenty of time to think about things its just recently that everyone is so busy..
WolverineInk 4 years ago
Truth is spoken here. Amen.
Bens39 4 years ago
thank you brother!
dwxyz 4 years ago
Apparently your religious visions are scenes from The Exorcist.
stuthedew0 4 years ago
I am a professional rugby player and I am commited christian and my church is full of rugby players. If this dude did this in my church. We will definately teach him a lesson that he will never forget for the rest of his wonderful life.(just use your imagination)
nimztukana 4 years ago
internet tough guy
skyfire1 4 years ago
well the guy said shit an he got what came too him i guess
thedarkklown 4 years ago
id like to say something people who hear jesus say oooo stop that offends me so much! yet when you athiests say ujusesu is gay and a fag and stuff no one can do anything this country was put into religion now look at it not as many people belive jesus here like 1 every infinite yet we have an extremely high crime rate american tv such as family guy is themain tv show why we cant believe in religion cause they dont believe in it and they just wont shut up with their jesus jokes
billbill1211 4 years ago
Most people think of Ned Flander types as Christians but it is far from it in alot of cases.The TV does not speak for me.
WolverineInk 4 years ago
and god said take the punch like a little bitch
crazyman2323 4 years ago
I beleive that the preacher has set this up. For whatever reason. That's what I beleive and God gave me talent in this area.
MegaGodFan 4 years ago
dude that was pretty funny, he had it coming for being religious in the first place
r007david 4 years ago
Fuck you bitch... What has Atheism done for the country... nothing,so you can shut the fuck up!!! I am not a church going person, but i do believe in God.... I'm not gonna talk shit, but I'm gonna be laughing my head off when you're burning in hell!!!
Homescid 4 years ago
Hey dude, I just got your reply, and not sorry to say, I didn't write that, one of my sons freinds did, and I am church going, and glad you believe. that punch wasn't right.
r007david 4 years ago
Sure wasn't right!!!
Homescid 4 years ago
wow...i love how there are those who defend christianity like you do with such a mouth to shit in and your comment on "laughing your head off while someone is burning in hell" shows how "ungodly" you actually are. peace and harmony :)
ilindah 4 years ago
That's the bible in action, right there. The pastor's reaction, also considering what karenandsal had to say about him, was simply admirable.
Yanni75 4 years ago
conformity never is
TheFairchild 4 years ago
Well, it can be. It involves putting your ego aside. And turning the other cheek and loving your neighbour or enemy are pretty tough guide-lines to follow for most people. Far easier to pay lip service to than to bring it into practice when you get in a situation, I grant you that.
Yanni75 4 years ago
It was the hand of God!
davis10 4 years ago
my preachin days would be over because i would knock the fuck out of him
r00tb33r 5 years ago
I don't think it's right for any of us to come to conclusions without looking at all the facts about the incident. The video gives no motive or reason for the hit. To conclude that he's molester or a total fake is wrong and illogical. Find the real facts, then make up your mind. (The guy probably did have a good reason though...or he could have been "demon" possessed...which IS possible but unlikely. lol)
CursedMonk87 5 years ago
youch that punch was like a barfight punch you see in da movies or a batman punch
ANDROIDTURKEY 5 years ago
Help us God!
dexzion 5 years ago
The sermon was about forgiveness? Setup anyone?
j00ztube 5 years ago
Actually, this is my pastor, and this man has a past history of seeing how many preachers he can punch. He did the same thing to Rochard Roberts several years before. Pastor visited this man in jail later and refused to press charges and forgave him. If you knew Pastor Billy Joe you would know that to term this as a set up would be a laughable thing.
karenandsal 5 years ago
That preacher should stop diddling little boys.
DystopianFuture2day 5 years ago
The preacher probably molested him, don't you think?
fryingfish 5 years ago
that happened here in Tulsa? wow!
jesterondirt 5 years ago
Religion does not save you..Jesus does!
PensacolaBeach 5 years ago
I go to VCC. After that happened their were stitches on his face for a few weeks. Why would he stage that, it doesn't make sense. Oh yeah & one more thing in the early 90's his house burned down & he was homeless for months so I guess he staged that too right?? You people need to worry about your own selves & your own beliefs.
ashieyang02 5 years ago
Stitches usually come out in about ten days...maybe they were fake too? A little two for one action.
toddhines 5 years ago
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
stupid preacher
damoo 5 years ago
You must be under 10 years old.
cyrildgo 5 years ago
'under 10 years old'
ahahahahaha
stupid cyrildgo
damoo 5 years ago
... you're an idiot, one punch and it didnt have contact, that most definitely isnt a legit 'event'
o but i was healed now i can hear.
saintfilledsin 5 years ago
Note the eye of horus, all seeing eye and the "In god we trust" addition on it.
olllj 5 years ago
LOL this is biased bullshit for ONE simple fact that the audio is POORLY edited by adding a COCONUT-clonk and a fake scream that CLEARLY does NOT belong in there. (also note the fox news logo). THUS NOTHING YOU SEE THERE even closely represents the real event!
olllj 5 years ago
Are you on drugs?
cyrildgo 5 years ago
what the fuck are you talking about??? "coconut clonk"? where the fuck did you hear that? and that scream you hear is someone in the audience of the show on fox reacting. if you paid attention you closed minded liberal, you would notice that the show is in front of a live audience and they are just showing the clip for them. gotta love these stupid ass liberals, so hell bent on finding "bias" they imagine shit, meanwhile cnn runs programs called "broken america" critiquing george bush. idiot.
johnnyboy1908 5 years ago
Is it me, or do Atheists preach more than Christians? Calm down, people. There's no need to insult other people's religion. By doing that, you're only setting a bad example to whatever religious affiliation (or lack of affiliation) you're aligned with.
Anyways, it looks like something a griefer would do on an online video game.
Zaners 5 years ago
Dare to degrade this DISCUSSION or commenting down to preaching.
Also atheism is NOT about a lack of affiliation. Not being part of "in a god believing" organisations/associations does not exclude organisations/associations in general.
I agree in one point, that the swearing above is unconstructive (even though I dont give a shit for constructive swearing, for not believing in swearing)
olllj 5 years ago
How am I degrading this discussion?
Zaners 5 years ago
Why didn't the preacher hit him back?
Impersario 5 years ago
To turn the other cheek is unpatriotic.
Jesus. Wrong on defense. Wrong for america.
wittyvegan 5 years ago
Funniest thing Bill Maher ever said.
Off to eat a baby seal now. Cheers!
chudgoo 5 years ago
a slap in the face in bible times was ment as a insult,to turn the other cheek was ment to say that we should not let others provoke us into rage.not ment to say that we should not defend ourselfs or the state we live in.jesus had to defend himself on a number of occasions,the isrealite as a nation also had to defend themselves.
ianvassell 5 years ago
Interesting. Didn't know about the self defense yet. Thanks for the information.
But Iraq never was a question of self defense. And the government also went into rage about 9/11 and punished people that had absolutely nothing to do with it.
wittyvegan 5 years ago
dude shut up. seriously. just stop talking and go eat some tofu you bastard. ur wrong for america so go to canada and shut the hell up.
Jesus. Died for you, but you're too narrow minded and proud to accept salvation.
johnnyboy1908 5 years ago
Freedom of speech. Have you heard of this one before? You have the right to believe in jesus and I have the right not to. And if you are not able to accept that then perhaps it is best YOU leave the us.
wittyvegan 5 years ago
it was cool that the preacher walked away and then finished the sermon
nightofthelepus 5 years ago
Preachers have huge lie-spouting mouths, I'm surprised that guy missed it.
His aims way off. Square in the nose would have been much better. Then it would have been game over for Jesus guy.
apemanblues 5 years ago
God is about peace and love? Have you ever read the Bible? All God does is blow shit up and kill people for disobeying him. If you believe they had it coming, that's hatred and violence right there.
Most Christians haven't really read the Bible all the way through, though. Very few Christians came to God through their own study and research, most were born into Christian families, just as most racist people were simply raised that way.
GilbertSmith 5 years ago
it's not about reading it through.its about reading, understanding, and applying it to your daily life. God is love, but He is also fire-consuming, as it says in the bible. but you have to look at what the people did for God to take action on certain things: and whatever God did, he did for a reason, or he permitted things to happen for such reasons. I don't neccesarily think "they had it coming", but for every action there is a consequence.
2Blest2Bstrest 5 years ago
Lol so like most ppl you just take whatever parts of the bible that fits ur life and forget about the rest uh? Never tried free thinking? no?
rognure 5 years ago
Hahaha!
It would have been even funnier if he smacked him with a bible.
stratocasterz 5 years ago
fucking christians, beleive evryting there told, there just scared dat when they die, they aint goin no where, all dis bulshit bout ur "soul" getting taken 2 heaven and hell bulshit, get real i mean whats da point in worshipping a god hu aint there
jakboi 5 years ago
It looks like a fake punch though... I think they staged it just like they stage the fukking fainting bullshit. Fuck America. Fuck the lies. I've been destroyed by this sick religion. These fucks don't even know the god they believe in.
csillie 5 years ago
Fuckin Fuck yeah. Fuckin fucks! Fuck I was all like fucking agreeing with your fucking shit! Fuck! But I couldn't fucking see through the fucking fuckshit to get to the fucking point.
In other words, teen angst is best spent on something that CAN make a difference. ....Just sayin....no hard feelings d00d. ;)
chudgoo 5 years ago
HAIL!
csillie 5 years ago
hahahaha
POW!
take it like a preacher! LOL!!!!
realtube 5 years ago
Lol, good punch! take it preacher! :-D
bovinepoo 5 years ago
I saw this on a show lastnight. They did not say WHY the man did this. He does look very angry.
Blueracer 5 years ago
I found out later from another program that he was released from a mental institution before coming to that church, so you don't have to be angry about something to punch someone in the face when you have mental problems.
musiq4dasoul82 5 years ago
Hmm how funny,a homeless man who I will bet no one saw before or since this incident who "punches" the preacher who convienently had a sermon on this very topic, along with well placed cameras and to top it off with a cherry on top someone sent this into the news (I wonder who?) which I guess means you can forgive someone but.. be sure to make a spectacle out of them on national tv!
Ladies and Gentlement behold the gullibility of americans!
P.S. Nice PR move
polishcosmogirl 5 years ago
not everything is a conspiracy or whatever your aiming at.
2Blest2Bstrest 5 years ago
88 is my birthyear, nothing to do with Nazi's. God is about love and thats it. Media will always attack Christians, despite the honest values that are created for Christianity. I know there are people who claim to be Christians who are not perfect, and the world is quick to tell them. But we're not perfect, just forgiven. Thats all. Jesus is the only way guys, the only one
marine4Christ88 5 years ago
A real christian doesn't need to wear it on his sleeve. Humility?
Absorbing a pre-made identity can be helpful when you're 18, but the real world has complicated problems that often do not fit into the boxes christianity has equipped you with.
chudgoo 5 years ago
That's ashame that all these people are ridiculing this man when he got punched in the face by a man. Ya'all ought to be ashamed of yourselves! Is this what this world has come to? So I guess that was afke blood coming out of his eye, too. Ridiculous!
musiq4dasoul82 5 years ago
Yes, yes it was.
Given the tendency of people to call everything 'FAKE!' I wonder why *this* particular video brings out such overwhelming defensiveness.
chudgoo 5 years ago
I was there, thats Victory Christian Center in Tulsa Oklahoma.Pastor Daugherty later forgave that homeless man who punched him, LIKE A REAL CHRISTIAN DOES.
Justmatt1 5 years ago
actually it happened at Oral Roberts University. He is the pastor of Victory Christian Center but according to his book it happened at Oral Roberts.
toddgsapp 5 years ago
Its basically the same church, until theirs is built, they have church in the Mabee center on the ORU campus till then.
Justmatt1 5 years ago
I was there! And it did'nt actually happen there. It was at that Bill Hybel Church in Willowbrook. No I'm just joking.
nitwitbit 5 years ago
I think I could find it in my heart of hearts to forgive a stuntm