Christianity vs Mithraism

[MichaelBMercier]

What's with the sinister, forboding, threatening music? It's just history.

[Cootabux]

U can try to defend it all you want but when u study the Ugarutuc Texts, you'll have met your match. The UTs have allowed us to take a much deeper look into the OT. What we find is how the Hebrews were actually Canaanites. When they left to form on their own, they took the gods of the Canaanite Pantheon with them. This explains why all the clues that Judaism was polytheistic B4 the priests rewrote the Torah to appear to have been monotheistic. And they lied about it. Today we have the evidence!

[borntrippin]

Christianity is full of pagan ideas, and much of its scriptural usage is very against the true Jesus/Yeshua of scripture. The heart of many christians is good, the information they have is wrong! Christianity really is an Anti Christ religion, but does not know it!

[Rauydian]

When you peel the religion of Christianity, the Jesus (pbuh) is lot different then mithraic alternative created by Paul and his followers.

[madamemuslim]

bless you for defending Jesus from Christ haters .

[Cootabux]

madamemuslim

I got news for you. I don't hate anything or anyone, but I just did 5 yrs research into Judaism and find that it was fraudulent, big time! Read the post I made before this one about the Ugaritic Texts. It's a thousand yrs older than the Hebrew writings.It tells the history of polytheistic Judaism and how they rewrote the Torah to appear monotheistic. They were bad at fraud tho, and it shows.

I know why u people try to portray us as haters, but it's a lie and that makes u all liars!!

[thybigballs]

Why would the Church feel the need to adopt other religions sacred days as a tool to compete? If Jesus was true it would need no help, right? After all, we are talking about the creator of the entire universe. Trickery would not be required by an omipotent being at all. As far as other similar attributes of Jesus and other gods, even the church fathers had much to say about this. Usually, it was the devil come prior to copy Jesus and deceive or it was Jesus simply practicing for the main event.

[FallofDarkness55]

I still think Mithraism was still an influence for Christianity. Paul probably selected the summer of 3-4 BC for Jesus's birth to make the birth of Jesus more compelling than the other 'virgin births'.

[AryanMede]

Get your facts straight; he was not born in 2000 BC, no1 knows when he was born. He was probably born even before that. And it was not in Persia that he was born, it was in Media. Around lake Matiene, or lake Urmieh.

[DannyTheSeeker]

SEE THE TRUTH !!! SEEK THE TRUTH !!!

[Swidhelm]

All you accomplished in this video was to show how religions influence one another, and borrow from other sources. Christianity did a lot of that up until very recently. And considering the contradictions in both old and new testament, pointing out contradictions in another religion doesn't really help your case.

[N1kkyta]

bad video, you believe the ancients prophecies hahaha you believe jesus was real hahaha this have nosense men, I think paul was mithraist

[Nowitzki25]

jesusneverexisteddotcom

[robrockrob]

Mithra is not a Persian God, Mithra is Armenian god, integrated to Avesta only in 4th century B.C. You can find in old Avesta the mentions of Zoroaster about Mithra and Anahit as "daevas" (false God), and his mentioning the Armenian Origin of these gods.

[fuckturks2223]

@robrockrob mithra is a iranian god

please give me some texts and sources

mithraism is a iranian religion

nothing about ARMENIANS!

[dar205]

This is a straw man argument. I have never heard that Christianity grew out of Mithraism. Only that it adopted pre-existent practices from the cult of Mithras (& other pagan beliefs).

This is only a problem for those who want to believe that the bible is inerrant and that the doctrines of the church are derived from the bible.

[avocadopunk]

The Bible is filled with incomplete Myths and loop holes. It's about as real as any other religion. Faith is faith and bless anyone who has any faith that keeps them from doing harm to others and others property.

[SeraphDigital]

@ Yang Pile please understand this is not confusing The Council of Nicea, Christmas, The Chi Rho, The change of worship from Sat to Sun, the combination of church and state and the begining of the holy wars were all constitued by one man and he was not christian he was a worshiper of many pagan gods esspeccially mithra if you research it then you will see that Constantine was an antichrist who changed chritianity to what it is today.

[Slaangor]

Imagine the mithras cult and the christians meeting and saying: "Hang on, you too!? Wow what a MASSIVE coincidence."

[Paahau]

Thank you for taking the time on this. The Persian Mirtha is not the same as the Mirtha cult in Rome. The Mirtha cult in Rome didn't appear until the last part of the 1st century. It left behind no writings and is listed as a 'mystery religion'. They also use Horus in this same way, born Dec. 25th, of a virgin, crucified..all a lie that falls apart on any investigation. Again thanks for your efforts in debunking thisjunk. Interesting to note but it is usually muslims posting this anti Christ vid

[SeraphDigital]

@Paahau Again research the Chi Rho you will find that Mithra the Unconquered sungod links you back to Horus because they are the same Demon devil incarnate celebrated and twisted to taint chritianity "For lack of knowledge my people will perish"

[DreamsofMajesty]

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[DaTruth2024]

Most people should also look up Judsism, Christianity and Islam's links to Zoroasterism. Actually Mithraism is linbked to Zoroasterism as well.

[DaTruth2024]

@retromama1

"I cannot listen to another preacher again w/out wanting to throw up."

YOU TOO!

Seriously though I was watching sunday morning church on TV (My grandmother always puts it on). Anyways a total uneasy feeling came over me. It felt like "brainwashing". He was just stating the same things over and over and screaming it louder and louder each time. Not only it was it linked to historic inaccurates but a rip-off. Even my mother felt uneasy watching it. She felt the same way too.

[jsmetalcore]

@paradiselostful i mean 500 years oldier

[jsmetalcore]

@paradiselostful you do know perisan mythology is 50 years oldier than judaism so the jews stole from persian mythology and look up the persian god, monotheism and pagainsm is more connectiec then u think because your god is in fact a polythesitic god

[jsmetalcore]

@paradiselostful paganism is oldier than monotheism judaism stole persian mythology beliefs so a single god cannot exist

[kobi4u]

Yeshua "Jesus" wasn't born on the 25th of Deceember, nor did He worship on sun-day!! He was born during the Jewish feast of Sukkot in Sept-Oct. He worshipped on the biblicaal Sabbath "between sundown Friday to sundown Saturday (Shabbat)

[joshua1813]

this guys says dont waste ur time arguing because he refuses to argue with ppl who dont want to listen or know the truth but the truth is sometimes its ppl like u who don't listen and r the ones who need to hear the real truth

[xCodyC]

YES :) Thank you so much for creating this video.

Praise the Lord.

[jwbflyer]

Great video brother. I would like to add another dimension. In Matthew we see Satan tempt Yeshua (Jesus). He said "it is written". This tells me Satan knows scriptures, and I would bet he knows more than any human Christian. The dynamic I am discussing is that Satan was in the world at all times and in my opinion is the source of all of the similarities to Yeshua before his arrival. Then, after his death, he begins to assimilate the truth with many lies.

[SMONEY250]

this is why i dont go to church because the public wasnt given all the information to get right with the living GOD but thank GOD almighty for his word for me to find the turth for myself

[sheppaul]

seems that ALL religions do the same things to make their story more acceptable

[proofOFLife]

well, that was balanced.

Or propaganda..

Yes, one of the two.

[cesarubiatch]

@proofOFLife It was not propaganda. Do your own research. I did, last night. Behold the Vatican is full of shit. They pretty much copied or "borrowed" enough to make me believe that it is a scam. Well that is what religion is about right?

[siamarksk]

I dont belive this video! bulshit!!

[zsifk]

It's strange what goes for educated.

[boaz1144]

as you drink the blood of christ in your false salvation you will realize that what you think is jesus is actually lucifer. Lucifer is the only light....pure and virtuous. Jesus was no different than any other prophet. Lucifer is our God.....don't be fooled. How many wars/deaths have been caused in the name of christianity and jesus......Christianity must die for the world to become a better place.

Ask lucifer for guidance in you journey for he is the only true God

[boyetpanget]

Jesus was born on September 11, 3BC on Tishri 1, the 1st day of the 7th month in Hebrew Calendar. There was an astronomical record in Rev 13:1 as the sun in Virgo with the new moon under Virgo's feet with her head on the 12 tribes of Israel (under the horizon). Virgo was clothed with sunset rays, around 6:05PM Jerusalem time. On Sept 13, 3BC, was the conjunction of Regulus and Jupiter, part of its triple conjunction in constellation LEO.

[UShistoryX2]

Out of respect of Mithraism, I'm going to correct you. The Mithraic Mysteries were centered around Mithras slaying the Sacred Bull, and Mithras as co-Deity with Sol Invictus. Mithras emerged fully grown from a Holy Stone, wore a Phrygian Cap, and carried a bow and a dagger. Water immersion and a Sacred Meal (the Blood and Flesh of the Sacred Bull) were practices, but radically different from Christianity. To say Mithraism is anything more than superficially similar to Christianity is absurd.

[tyrone9009]

I like the way everyone seems to know the absolute truth about their beliefs. The truth is these are all ancient stories and nothing more.

[tyrone9009]

Why would anyone feel the need to believe in any religion? They are all based on blind faith. There is no proof any of them are real.

[jeddah91]

Faith is only a requirement when you don't know!

Faith offers NO proof, when there is an abundance of proof when you know where to look and how too look. I am blessed to not have to rely on blind faith to know my on Father.

[EducatedRebellion101]

Complete Christian apologetic nonsense. Don't you understand that every culture put their own unique spins on certain issues, of course there will be some differences jack-ass, these were ancient mystery school religions, the peasants were NOT suppose to know better, thus the diffs. were created for each culture. Your thinking in modern context, ancient mystery schools and Christian tyrants ruled knowledge through them. Real scholars and degree received historians like myself just chuckle at you

[PacificNW326]

Oh pah-leeease!! It's common knowledge that AFTER the time of Christ, gnostics changed their stories to be more like Christian ones. This zeitgest bs u posted here is refuted by "Keith Truth" & 'Knowwheretorun1984". So please tell me where is it found that mithra was born on dec. 25th or for that matter that Jesus was born Dec. 25th. TRUE Christianty was never corrupted, catholic=mystery babylon, satan is real & he wants to destroy Christianty so he infiltrates then divides.

[earthsoulful]

What is your definition of "True Christianity". I'm curious to know, do you rely solely on Pauline theology, and the canon of the Roman catholic church, of whom you call "babylon"?

[Maryammmm]

Constantine wanted to unite the Roman empire, so he took the feuding christians and united them under the "Trinity" which they created, burned many of the original bibles and put in his pagan beliefs instead, many of them being in this video. The fact is, christianity is not pure anymore, it has many panganistic practices, and it was made to be that christians must worship the prophet of God, Jesus, instead of worshiping God, your Creator.

[Db0ytellem]

"Christianity is not pure anymore..."

I am young in my studies, however, my current thought is that no religions are pure anymore.

With some intellectual elbow-grease bible's and scriptures can be stripped down and truly appreciated for their complex mysticisms, and their enlightening purity felt

[Maryammmm]

I agree that most people who practice their religions have changed and manipulated their religion's pure message, so that they are now worshiping associations with God, and not God Himself. It is my belief however, that the Qur'an is as perfect as it was when it was revealed 1400 years ago. The only problem is muslims today who do not practice Islam as it should be practiced, giving out wrong impressions. If we followed the Qur'an as it is, none of this "religion of violence" stuff would exist.

[Axcendar]

Mithraism was an ancient (Persian) mysterious religion prominent from the 1st century BC to the 5th century AD. Mithraism apparently originated in the eastern part of today's Iran around the 7th century BC. It was based on worship to the goddess Mithras and derives from the Persian and Indic god Mithra and other Zoroastrian deities.

[Axcendar]

Mithraism and Christianity derived from the same sources. Mithra's birthday was adopted by Christians in the 4th century AD as the birth of Christ.

[Axcendar]

The archeology team in Kangelou Fortress hopes to find more traces of Mithraism in this historical monument. If this claim is proven fully, Kangelou will be the most important Sassanid prayer house discovered so far in Mazandaran province.

[Shibuki]

it is quite obvious that many of the myths surronding Jesus's existence were influenced from other pagan religions. Mithraism seems to have a deep impact on that aspect but it's also possible that other pagan religions had that same effect.

[Shibuki]

In an atheist perspective, Jesus was nothing more than a pharisee who preached the talmudic teachings of Hillel (giving a more humanistic touch to Judaism) and was probably a dangerous enemy for the jewish sect of the sadducess (who did not recognize the Talmud, only the Torah) and the romans, hence he may have been murdered.

[straygypsy]

So...

By Christians admitting this, they are admitting that their god replicates Pagan doctrines.

The G-d I worship replicates NONE!

[99minerkc]

Wrong! Mithraism has been properly and rightfully debunked!!

[straygypsy]

That was pretty much my point!!

And the fact that Christianity has taken all of its doctrines (along with Horus, Tammuz) makes Christianity just as debunked.

Are you "American Public School" educated?

[99minerkc]

No, I was educated many, many years ago in a private school.

[FastestReligion]

he admits dec 25 is not the birth day of Jesus(PBUH) still sticks to ti.

[mikeyhill23]

this is retarded. i seen one slide in this that said christianity was worshiped on saturday before jesus's birth, but there was no christianity before jesus was born that is if he even existed at all

[KoreanEugene]

hmm thats funny. Last time i checked, Judaism was deemed as a religion. Even Islam is a religion. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all religions. They claim to be relationships/submission to God.

[seamr05]

3*23....what else did they embrace in order to compete with the old pegan gods..HAHAHAHA The fact that you know this and still remain a christian is outright ridiculous...

[josephstra]

Around 400 BCE the Zoroastrians provided for Mithra a mother, Anahita. In a temple from 200 BCE she was referred to as "The Immaculate Virgin Mother of Lord Mithra"

[paintballershark]

I love Jesus. I may not show it and as an intellectually inclined individual I challenge christian beliefs. But I love Jesus. Please pray for me. PLEASE. I nee help. I love Jesus.

[mudrfani]

great reverse psycology<<<?????? it proves nothing- still presian celebrate 25 december as yalda- the day mitra defeats the darkness- the longest day of the month- its christ birthday , jesus birthday- no body is saying mirthra is jesus- it simply says jesus life story is fake or may be he never existed- there is no reliable historical proof that he existed- except in Quran- if u belive in Quran that makes u a muslim

[cristianevallim]

Answer n°2

fosho 89

The christ are responsable for the biggest social revolution in the world!

Try to ready about Mithras and Christianity in serious books!

[cristianevallim]

Answer n°1

fosho 89

You are an ignorant! It was the Emperor Constantin whose put the same date of Cristo born and the celebration of Mithras.

Nobody knows about the Misteries of Mithras because the members never took about or they never write about too!

There are only Temple of Mithras with the statues and designs.

The christ criated the first hospitals and the Universities too! The christ eliminated the slaves of society!

[fosho89]

hahha sutch a bull shit idiotic christians hahha wake up and oppen ure eyez ure relgion is a copy wanna be old persian

[CliffToonz]

yea, i dont celebrate christmas anymore, bacause i know that it's WRONG!!

but i am still chrsitian, but i am a right christian...^_^

[CliffToonz]

No!! Christian is a RIGHT religion, but the people at the past time who were Mitraism still did their cult as Mitraism followers, and that cultures are still christians doing untill now.

I mean here is Chrisitian is RIGHT and Jesus Christ is sompletely RIGHT, it's just tthe Christian followers that do that wrong cultures that make Christian seems wrong.

U guys have to try to understand it...

The people make the Christian wrong and not itself!! JESUSU CHRIST IS REAL and right!!

[settok33]

Wow! You just proved that Christianity is a fake! You guys borrowed a little from Islam and a little from Mithraism, andddd you get...Christianity. For those of you who think that Islam orignated about 1400 years ago, are wrong! Islam came on Earth, the moment Adam set foot on Earth. Adam was a Muslim, Abraham was a Muslim, so was Moses, Jesus, and all the other prophets.

[modernscribe]

Wrong. They were all Jews. Just because Islam accepts them as prophets, doesn't make them muslim.

[settok33]

Ummmm.... I believe that they were all Muslims. I don't care if you don't believe so, okay?

[modernscribe]

ok... well, go out on the highway and say you don't believe in motor vehicles. Then come back and let me know how that goes.

[settok33]

Sorry, don't have the time to. And I'm not supposed to be debating. I believe they were Muslims, you believe they were Jews, great! Let's find out after death who is correct. I want to end this "conversation." Peace.

[KoreanEugene]

lol im just adding on to a statement. If they were muslim, why did they speak Hebrew and Muslims speak Arabic?

[settok33]

Glad I made you laugh out loud.I'm sorry if the following offends you - where are your brains at, mister? I'm a Muslim, do I speak Arabic? No. Arabic is a beautiful language. The Prophet spoke it, his companions spoke it, the Qur'an is in Arabic, and we'll speak Arabic in Paradise. Are we all required to speak it in this world? No. Seriously. Haven't you heard of American Muslims? Speaking Hebrew doesn't make you a Jew, okay? By the way, reply to me if i make you lol again.

[KoreanEugene]

Oh. haha well i dont want an argument(i dont think anyone really does, right?) I have some muslim friends actually haha. Um... well God bless!

[settok33]

Yeah, no one wants an argument. May God Bless You Too.

[EmperorJ666]

"let's find out after death who is correct"

Who's correct is the atheist people, not any of you theist fools.

[settok33]

Fine with me. I'll say the same thing. let's find out after death who is correct and who are the fools. Please don't reply to this. I have enough e-mails in my account to be answering YouTube comments. Thank You

[JpAiMpEeSr]

Considering that the writers of the New Testament were Jews who shunned pagan philosophies and that the Old Testament has all of the themes found in Christianity, it is far more probable that if any borrowing was done, it was done by the pagan religions that wanted to emulate the success of Christianity.

[modernscribe]

good point, i never thought of that.

[Gooshkooloo]

actually u acknowledged a lot of similarities...

so what? u just coud defend Jesus.. but not Christianity...

u acknowledge a lot of mutual adoption... not very suitable for a religious come from God!

a product of early church, not God via Jesus!! it had been know, but u made it more clear! ;) tnx man!

but what does it mean exactly without (early) church: Jesus?? a lot of contradiction...

[Gooshkooloo]

u meant they knw Jesus was born in Fall or Summer, but they have changed it to 25 Dec...and all of Christians ( actually not all, as I know, but not in Fall or Summer, surly!) celebrate this day ... u think it is OK???!! i mean everything could be changed by early church? they were right?!

[nokriy312]

I don't know if they knew it back then. But I know that the church chose Dec 25th for Christmas because of the other religions at that time. And no, I don't think thats ok. In fact, I don't think Christians should celebrate Christmas or Easter at all because of where they came from. Jesus never told us to celebrate those days, the early church created them to try and compete with other religions.

[marcusampe]

@nokriy312

Jesus only asked to remember the taking of the Bread and the wine as symbols of the New Covenant.

& Yes Christmas is a pagan feast and should not be celebrated. And there is nowhere a sign that we should celebrate the birth of Jesus (17 October of 4BC)

[johnr25ks]

Knowbody even knows anything about Mithra, there are no evidence that mithra did all of these things, all of these things have been added to the mithra history centuries after Jesus. Look it up find some real sources. And you will find out who the real copycats are.

[modernscribe]

exactly. I hope you weren't saying that against me, because I'm not saying Jesus came from Mithra but defending Jesus and trying to debunk the false assumptions that Jesus came from Mithra.

But its true, there isn't enough Archeological evidence about Mithraism to prove that Jesus came from Mithraism.

[CentabyteZero]

Nice music choices, man.

[rupert1077]

I can prove that islam is pure hatred in three numbers....9 11 ....muhammad was a pedophile as well ... married a 9 year old.....God bless SAlman Rushdee... Allah is satan

[YangPile]

If Jesus was born between September and Fall (according to scriptures), then you should be able to share with us, these scriptures. (please do)

Because what you are saying is not disproving a connection between the religions, merely confusing Christians...

Of course they aren't parallel religions, because they are not the same. But at the Council of Nicaea, it was decided (for political reasons) to include aspects,(NOT ALWAYS DIRECT PARALLELS!) of Pagan beliefs to help sway converts.

[nokriy312]

it doesn't say the dates in scriptures. Scholars can determine when Jesus was born off by looking at either the events or weather at that time.

[sinfultictac]

No offence to Christians but what the early Church did to get fallowers is pretty screwed up. Whoring out Jesus so they can get more fallowers.

[nokriy312]

You mean because they preached in the streets and temples? Spreading the message is how you get people to hear it. It's kind of like advertising, whether it be for a product or an idea. The only way people hear about it, is if you tell them about it.

[sinfultictac]

No I mean flavoring there beliefs with mithrasism so they could compete with it. I see the church do the same thing today.

[nokriy312]

I can agree with that. Christianity has taken a lot from Mithraism, for example Easter and Christmas. They are Pagan holidays and it frustrates me that Christians celebrate it. What really frustrates me is when you tell them its wrong for Christians to celebrate those holidays, people get really defensive. I've worked in the church, and I've noticed a lot of so called "christians" who look like everyone else when we are called to be different.

[sami6108]

mr nokiy312 u have mentioned only mithra watz about horus,attis,zeus.include all these by blending then u will get the remaining answer.actually all the pegan gods r almost similar only lil different.the concept of trinity was derived by alxendar of alexandaria in 325 at the council of nicaia who just adapted christianity wid its previous religion horus.i guess u an get a hint y the christian fanatics destroyed the library of alexander the great of 1 million scroll.just2remove evidence.

[familyfun99]

Religions/cults evolve. The mutations that take hold for whatever local reasons become canonized. Christianity mutated from Mithraism, Judaism, and Greek/Egyptian. Islam mutated from early christianity, judaism, and local pagan beliefs. Mormom mutated from the more familiar recent christianity... etc. etc. 

Languages have evolved similarly. Everything evolves.... open your eyes and set your minds free

[nokriy312]

Funny how you say set your minds free. I believe what I believe because I choose to believe it, not because anyone has told me to. Yes, Christianity is an expansion of Judaism. What do you think the Old Testament is about? All the Old Testament laws, prophets, they are all related to Judaism. Several of the apostles were Jews, and so was Jesus. With Jesus dieing on the Cross, Judaism wasn't restricted to just Jews anymore. Jesus created a new covenant that allowed everyone to come to God.

[familyfun99]

...pull back the blanket that has been put over your eyes (probably when you were a child)

[nokriy312]

You don't even know me. Your assuming that I grew up in the church and I'm believing what I do because everyone else tells me. I've done my research and come up to my conclusion. It is not possible that Christianity borrowed any religious practices from Mithraism. Mithraism didn't come into Rome until late 1st century. By that time the apostles have already traveled around the Roman Empire and Christianity was well established.

[nokriy312]

The only traditions Christianity borrowed from Mithraism is Easter and Christmas, which was Eastre and Saturnalia. And if you are going to hammer Christianity for that, so be it. but there isn't a single verse in the bible that commands Christians to celebrate those holidays, therefor those are man made traditions not originally part of Christianity.

[akhil8]

MaxerUK, Nokriy good to see people defending their faith. However, if you read the srimad bhagavatam and the bhagavad gita of vedic india, all those other 'truths' seem very pale indeed.

[anarchopinko]

Also, there was a plethora of religions that were similar to Mithraism and Christianity that pre-date both. The themes in question were common religious beliefs in that time. Even the supposed Jewish prophecies of the coming of Jesus were common place beliefs about Gods that already were being worshiped prior to Judaism. There is really nothing new about Jesus - just another case of holy plagarism.

[nokriy312]

Who is to say that nations prior to Jesus didn't create their own God from the messianic prophesies. The prophesies of the Messiah go all the way back to Adam and Eve. I'm confident in saying that many people knew the prophesies, and they could easily create their own God.

[anarchopinko]

Adam and Eve came from the Heliopolitan creation myth and were the deities Geb and Nut. They had three sons Osiris, Set, and Horus. The myth goes: The father diety Shu pulled Nut from Geb's body and that Geb and Nut disobeyed Shu and Nut was punished with difficulties at childbirth. One of the brothers killed the other and the third went on to found the line of heirs to the Egyptian throne. The ancient Jews borrowed this tale and absorbed it into their own beliefs.

[nokriy312]

Sounds very similar, but still so what. Stories get told several times for many years, that could just be a story that was repeated since the beginning. I'll tell you what I believe, and what the Bible says.. I believe that before there was Egypt and different nations there was one nation, that one nation was split by the event at the tower of babel. Before the tower of babel, there was the begging of Creation, where Adam and Eve came from.

[nokriy312]

So it is very possible that the story of Adam and Eve was true, and retold several times throughout history and eventually came into the Egyptian legend. Even today, there are stories that get passed on through the generations.

[nokriy312]

On top of that I have yet to find exact parallels between Jesus and other gods. People say Dionysus also created wine Like Jesus, but there is a big difference between Jesus doing it at a wedding and Dionysus creating wine so people can get drunk and become more spiritual.

[anarchopinko]

You say that it is possible that Mithraism borrowed themes from Christianity but the similarities in Mithraism were adopted prior to the birth of Jesus. Your loop holes are extremely weak.

[MaxerUk]

hi there, i have read up on this and Mithraism does not actually say that Mithra was born from a virgin, that he was born from a rock, and his birth from this rock created a cave.The birth of Mithra dates at least a century after the time of the New Testament. It is too late to say that any "borrowing" was done by the Christian church

[nokriy312]

A lot of good points there MaxerUk. I hope you understand that I'm not saying Christianity borrowed from Mithraism, but I'm defending Christianity. I added the Mithra being born of a virgin because I have seen other videos on youtube that claimed that. I have never seen any other sources that claimed Mithra was born of a virgin either, so that was to debunk other videos.

[toshirules]

Exposed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sibilkkoloft]

Either way both religions are full of bollocks!