@benisturning30 The whole notion of "hate crimes" has always been questionable to me. --But when you add double-standards into the mix, it becomes something horrible.
@kizzume I think that hate-crime laws have some logic behind them.
But, really, there should just be a directive to the court to direct them to prescribe an especially harsh sentence if the intent was "hateful".
Intent matters.
Also, if a single assault was meant to terrorize an entire group of people, that should be severely punished, and could even be considered an act of terrorism.
@AnonymousElektron I'm glad to hear that it's being applied evenly in some places. I just keep getting stories like a recent subway attack that it seemed pretty apparent that it was racially motivated but the court said otherwise.
And by black people I mean people who are African-American by culture (so, i don't mean black immigrants -- they're very, very different, and often tell me that there is far more discrimination in Africa)
Anyway, I get where you're coming from, but, the experiences you've had have probably been from damaged trash that hates everyone who isn't as much of a failure as they are.
@AnonymousElektron I never suggested that black people were any one thing, or at least, that wasn't my intention. The main thing I was saying in my video is that there are double-standards for what is considered racism, or "acceptable" racism, and I don't think we should turn a blind eye to ANY type of racism. Someone black saying horrible things about white people should be looked at just as poorly as someone white saying something about black people, but it isn't that way.
@AnonymousElektron As I've said in other videos, my issue is around culture, not race. Anyone of ANY race can belong to ANY culture. I've said this so many times.
I don't have a liking for ANY anti-gay cultures, nor misogynistic, nor anti-education.
And I don't want to beat a dead-horse anymore, or talk about "the black people I know this, the black people I know that", buuuuut, again, I've noticed that the people most offended by that kind of bigotry are black people, just as I'm offended, and want to apologize for, white bigots.
@kizzume search youtube for "the black hole II", to see a texas city councilman say that the word "black hole" is racist, and was concocted by white scientists as an insult for black people.
he goes on for many minutes, and denies that it has to do with light being unable to escape, and the celestial entity's black appearance.
@kizzume because there really isn't any room for division.
I mean, again, other subcultures have more of a pull on people than ethnic background.
If you grew up here, and, you're an otaku-nerd, or a hacker, or lgbt, or an academic, or an artist -- that's what is a much bigger part of people's identity.
And I love it.
This is why I love living in big, truly cosmopolitan cities.
In a lot of ways, we've really moved beyond race, and it makes you look like an ass if you bring it up.
The same applies to Native Americans. Their entire culture in the United States is inheritantly racists and based on segregation of race and privileges based on skin color, etc. When history comes up, it is always the evil white man and the poor innocent natives, when in reality, a lot more white Europen settlers were massacred and attacked, etc, than natives. Etc Etc Etc.
Also, you're wrong about anti-white racism and hate-crimes being ignored.
Google Phillip Grant White Plains.
In my own home-town, a black man murdered a white woman, and the entire community called for him to fry, and agreed that he was a racist hate-monger.
Nobody objected to that.
The prosecutor made sure that his racism was a factor, and convicted him.
Actually, the state is all for this, because it's another addition to their toolbox, and they have no problem charging black people.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
totally agree!
ebaymamaqueen 1 month ago
The reason black get away with it, and I'm black, is because of double standards. I don't think white people understand that.
benisturning30 1 month ago
What does that even mean - "hate crime"?
benisturning30 1 month ago
There is no such thing as a hate crime. Its such a stupid term. Ever heard of a love crime? All crimes are hateful.
benisturning30 1 month ago
@benisturning30 The whole notion of "hate crimes" has always been questionable to me. --But when you add double-standards into the mix, it becomes something horrible.
kizzume 1 month ago
@kizzume I think that hate-crime laws have some logic behind them.
But, really, there should just be a directive to the court to direct them to prescribe an especially harsh sentence if the intent was "hateful".
Intent matters.
Also, if a single assault was meant to terrorize an entire group of people, that should be severely punished, and could even be considered an act of terrorism.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@kizzume in the state of NY, when black people assault non black people, it's often assumed by the courts to be a hate crime.
It enables the state to send them to jail longer, so, they're all for it.
And, really, nobody objects to that.
That buffoon, Al Sharpton, hasn't said anything.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@AnonymousElektron I'm glad to hear that it's being applied evenly in some places. I just keep getting stories like a recent subway attack that it seemed pretty apparent that it was racially motivated but the court said otherwise.
kizzume 1 month ago
@kizzume in-fact, Mr Grant was the FIRST use of NY state's hate-crime laws.
That's right, the FIRST guy convicted, under this new law, was a black man.
And I know for a fact that prosecutors love using it, when they can, and wouldn't let political correctness stop them.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@kizzume I'm friends with a lot of black people.
And by black people I mean people who are African-American by culture (so, i don't mean black immigrants -- they're very, very different, and often tell me that there is far more discrimination in Africa)
Anyway, I get where you're coming from, but, the experiences you've had have probably been from damaged trash that hates everyone who isn't as much of a failure as they are.
Urban trailer-trash.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@kizzume there are plenty of normal black people, that have jobs, and do the exact same crap with their lives that we do.
I've dated a few of them, and, honestly, black girls are awesome.
Of all of my exes, the two blacks girls I've dated I'm still close friends with.
Because, I've found, they're very, very honest, and direct, and the healthiest relationships I've had.
And one of the smartest math professors I ever had was black, from Harlem.
Very cool dude.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@AnonymousElektron I never suggested that black people were any one thing, or at least, that wasn't my intention. The main thing I was saying in my video is that there are double-standards for what is considered racism, or "acceptable" racism, and I don't think we should turn a blind eye to ANY type of racism. Someone black saying horrible things about white people should be looked at just as poorly as someone white saying something about black people, but it isn't that way.
kizzume 1 month ago
@kizzume I know.
And I've seen what you're talking about, believe me.
It's really common among the poor and stupid.
And sadly, this is often black people.
I guess, I mostly spend time among fairly educated, middle class black people.
And believe me, they exist, but, I have a feeling, there aren't that many in other parts of the country.
I've had to deal with what you're talking about.
I spent some time growing up in public housing, and got jumped by black kids, because I was white.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@kizzume honestly, when I was a teenager, part of me believe that all black people were like that.
Angry and racist and hateful.
And all I saw was people applying unfair double-standards, so I totally get where you're coming from.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@kizzume they're FRIENDS.
They don't give a crap about race.
Maybe they do, but they don't bring it up.
They're more concerned with the same things we're all concerned with.
I don't think race came up EVER with either of my exes.
Except kind of as a joke.
Took her to a goth club (she's into that) "heyyyyy you're date is black -- she's got us completely beat, she's moar goth than all of us"
The city's stargate meetup is about 70% black nerds.
Just sayin, dude.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@AnonymousElektron As I've said in other videos, my issue is around culture, not race. Anyone of ANY race can belong to ANY culture. I've said this so many times.
I don't have a liking for ANY anti-gay cultures, nor misogynistic, nor anti-education.
kizzume 1 month ago
@kizzume I know.
And I don't want to beat a dead-horse anymore, or talk about "the black people I know this, the black people I know that", buuuuut, again, I've noticed that the people most offended by that kind of bigotry are black people, just as I'm offended, and want to apologize for, white bigots.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@kizzume search youtube for "the black hole II", to see a texas city councilman say that the word "black hole" is racist, and was concocted by white scientists as an insult for black people.
he goes on for many minutes, and denies that it has to do with light being unable to escape, and the celestial entity's black appearance.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@AnonymousElektron Oh yeah, I saw that a while back. Crazy.
kizzume 1 month ago
@kizzume I think NYC is just really diverse.
Not the kind of manufactured politically correct diversity, but real, actual diversity.
People who look different, and from different cultures, just hanging out.
Racism is soooo old-people.
Several people I know, white, black, or otherwise, have been chided by their parents for "race mixing".
Yea, if you goto a run-down neighborhood, you'll find frightening racism by black people, but, so what, so would you in a methed out trailer park.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
@kizzume because there really isn't any room for division.
I mean, again, other subcultures have more of a pull on people than ethnic background.
If you grew up here, and, you're an otaku-nerd, or a hacker, or lgbt, or an academic, or an artist -- that's what is a much bigger part of people's identity.
And I love it.
This is why I love living in big, truly cosmopolitan cities.
In a lot of ways, we've really moved beyond race, and it makes you look like an ass if you bring it up.
AnonymousElektron 1 month ago
Exactly. There really is a double standard.
The same applies to Native Americans. Their entire culture in the United States is inheritantly racists and based on segregation of race and privileges based on skin color, etc. When history comes up, it is always the evil white man and the poor innocent natives, when in reality, a lot more white Europen settlers were massacred and attacked, etc, than natives. Etc Etc Etc.
Good video.
AdamLore 1 month ago
yup
jerrylittlemars 1 month ago
Well said, kizzume.
PampersPete 1 month ago