@InSewerILive if thats the case then gay hugging it is cos its a hell of alot more effective than your fantasy garbage lol
You wanna know what happened to Kung Fu in the modern world of martial arts?? The Truth! Thats what happened!
If you believe in it so much then take your Kung Fu to an MMA gym and see how effective it really is but don't be so surprised when you get chewed up and spat out when they make you their prison bitch!
Or you can go on to believe people can dodge bullets.. you choose
Guys guys guys...it's not that kungfu is better, or boxing is better or karate or mma is better. It depends on the PERSON, how much work he did in his art. You can be a boxer, but if you meet a master of gongfu he kicks the shit out of you. But also, you can be a hard practitioner of karate for 3 years, but if you meet a pro western boxer, then you fucked.
No idea what brings me back to this argument but these Kung Fu demonstrations are ridiculous, ok if someone shoots on you as slow as that guy did you deserve to be "fucking dead" but no one is gonna shoot that slow for instance if someone like GSP were to shoot on that guy he wont have enough time to raise his arm and get any kind of power in his strike!
KF in this modern day is a joke and has been surpassed majorly, might be about the fighter but you need the right tools aswell!
I don't get why are people arguing about which fighting style are better, lets just say all of them are just in the same level but have different techniques. k bye.
Ok, I train Wing Chun, but this guy is just hilarious. I have been in the boxing ring etc, trained some mma, and it is not as easy as he makes it seem.
Bla bla bla... real kung fu is deadly ...bla bla bla... real kung fu masters beat everyboby but no one has ever seen them ...bla bla bla the videos are not real bla bla bla ... No serious argument.
Btw Bruce lee was saying that karate sucks. But I guess that was ok. He was Bruce lee after all.
people wanna know which tecnique can teach u faster how to fight and how well is it gonna teach you kung fu teaches some very fast but unpowerfull hits , mma teaches u how to puch hard so u will make ur oponnent pain
@3terminatorgr I can tell you know nothing about kung fu but just now day mma or ufc stuffs. Try letting a kung fu expert punch or kick you and see if it hurt you in pain? people are watching too much movie of kung fu only and not see the real things about it. You maybe think kung fu is just fast but unpowerful then just wait until you get hit by one then you know. Kung fu, karate or other style teaches you powerful strike which you don't see it and you don't know about it..
@ninjafalcon1 i am doing karate and kick boxing . King boxing is almost the same as mma and when i compeete in kick boxing i take much more powerfull hits .I think that a powerfull right kick boxing punch can kill anybody . In russia about a month ago 1 mma fighter punched a much bigger guy and he killed him with a single hand , I hadn't ever heard of a that powerfull punch or hit in kung fu
@3terminatorgr Why kick boxing is use in ufc or mma now in these days because the styles became a sport style even if it's a self defense too. Kick boxing strongest attack is not the punch but their elbow and knee only. In kung fu, why didn't you heard or see the style does powerful hit because it's a style to protect one self and not to kill unless it's necessary. Same goes for karate too. Which explain why kung fu is banned out of mma or ufc when its self defense in real life and not sport use
@3terminatorgr I respect you as a karate and kick boxing fighter. But if your a martial artist, then you should know well and understand that some martial art styles aren't suppose to be use in cage or ring match since the styles is lethal that does deadly hits even if it's not hitting into the nut, eyes, or back of the neck. It's more use in self defense in real situation protecting yourself out there. but remember, not all powerful hit will make you win every match. Keep that in mind.
@3terminatorgr I'm glad you know that some martial art styles aren't used for cage or ring. Well, that's your opinion. Because I train Kung Fu for 7 years now and some random people pick a fight with me out on the streets and I defend myself using Kung Fu but I don't kill them but just injury them so they won't cause no more trouble. It doesn't matter what styles you use to defend yourself on the streets but matter more how you use it to protect yourself. I'm sure you do understand what I mean.
@3terminatorgr I'm glad you know that some martial art styles aren't used for cage or ring. Well, that's your opinion. Because I train Kung Fu for 7 years now and some random people pick a fight with me out on the streets and I defend myself using Kung Fu but I don't kill them but just injury them so they won't cause no more trouble. It doesn't matter what styles you use to defend yourself on the streets but matter more how you use it to protect yourself. You understand what I mean?
@ninjafalcon1 I know that kung fu can help up in street fights but mma kick boxing and muai thai are better a kung fu expert can defend from less people at the same time than a kick boxing mma or muai thai expert
@3terminatorgr Actually, not really that kung fu can protect you from less people at the same time when the styles itself train you to defend against multi-person too. I've been in real multi-fight before using kung fu so I know. Same as muay thai, you can defend yourself against 2 person if you know how to use the style. mma kick boxing is not that good as the real muay thai. Also, mma or ufc fighters are only train to fight one oppoment at the same time as how they were train not multi-person.
@3terminatorgr I don't think so at all because I seen and watch ufc and mma matches and they can't kill with one punch but just a knockout if the other oppoment couldn't take the hit. Even my older brother enjoy watch ufc or mma matches and never seen a punch that will kill their oppoment but only knock out each other out.
@3terminatorgr even if they wear gloves or not. Their punch can't kill but just only does knock out on each others. But if you get hit so much you will be knock out or daze out from it, not kill.
@ninjafalcon1 about a month ago in russia an mma fighter killed a guy with a single punch. The mma fighter was short and smaller than the other guy and the killed man was about 2 meteres long so ... an mma fighter can kill even a much bigger opponent with a single punch (this mma fighter is today in prison)
@3terminatorgr then that mma fighter must of cheated by putting something in his glove like metal because mma fighter single punch can't kill no one for real but only knock out if he get the punch shot to the other guy. I don't believe it can kill because I actually seen real fights before and no one kill but just knock out. I read about it, the guy was not kill by the punch but knock to the pavement which cause head trauma and that kill him. Not the punch. You should read carefully.
@ninjafalcon1 no they actually find that he would be dead even without the hit at the pavement and he was wearing no gloves it was in real life not in any mma match
@3terminatorgr Dude, you did not read about it carefully as I did when the doctor agree with the expert saying that the guy wasn't kill by a punch when a strong punch or kick will only knock you out, not kill. He's head was hit on the pavement after getting punch and it was in the mma match not in real life o_O I can tell your a mma fan but the fact, mma or ufc fighters can't kill anyone with a punch when that is fake. Glove or no glove, can't kill but cause knock out when a good or lucky shot.
@3terminatorgr Dude, you read wrongly about that in russia. Because I read it, they say the doctor agree with the expert that the guy wasn't kill by the punch but his head hit on the pavement after getting hit down which cause head trauma and that kill him, not the punch. They were in the mma match. glove or no glove, will only cause knockout. I can tell your a mma fan but the fact, no mma or ufc fighters can kill with a punch when that's all fake. Right or wrong, what your saying is a fake here
@3terminatorgr Dude, you read wrongly about that in russia. Because I read it, they say the doctor agree with the expert that the guy wasn't kill by the punch but his head hit on the pavement after getting hit down which cause head trauma and that kill him, not the punch. They were in the mma match. glove or no glove, will only cause knockout. I can tell your a mma fan but the fact, no mma or ufc fighters can kill with a punch when that's all fake. Right or wrong, what your saying is a fake here
The point of the boring story is that personality, discipline and determination are very important on a person in his life and also in fighting. We just got to respect every martial arts, what would happen if the discipline guy was the TKD guy? It would be a completely different story. PS: Very awesome video Master Wong I hope to se more of them and sorry for my english.
im really tired of every discussion of whatever style is best. I think that everybody has listen this all the time it's not the style is THE PRACTITIONER. I once saw a fighting between my former training partner when I practiced TKD and an MMA guy and the MMA guy owned the other one very fast. The TKD guy had 4 years experience in Olympic and traditional TKD, the MMA guy had 2 years of experience. The TKD guy was a wanna be greatest and the MMA guy was a fierce but peaceful guy.
The Master looks like a caricature of a typical kung fu man.
Master: If you are a good person like me... lol.
Any way, we still hear all these stories of kung fu masters who used to fight one another to see who's the best. Wing Chun (Wing Tsun) practitioners used to say they won most of no rules matches in hong kong.
Also kung fu fighters participated in the first MMA. They stopped after the realised they cannot win.
Supposedly now you are attacked by someone, if the only solution is to kill him then the art is useless. If I wanted to be a potential killer that I whould always carry a pistol with me, or at least a knife.
@Nuthor I disagree with you. Why kung fu and some other martial art styles is no longer in mma because of Kung Fu is not all base on ground moves but air moves as well which in the ufc and mma aren't allowing them to use air moves and using the cage for their advantage. Even thought kung fu user doesn't use killer moves, they will win ufc or mma fighters if there no rules. Beside, grappling or submission someone in real life is going to get you hurt more then the other who punches and kick you
Air moves are indeed allowed in MMA. You don't see them because they are almost completely useless. They are also useless in real situations. There are videos from fights before MMA championships became official. The same results. Check in youtube for TKD vs MMA and Jiu jitsu Vs Kung fu and BJJ Vs Kung Fu, Judo, Kenpo Karate & Hapkido. (HD 720p) etc. Now about real life if you say that submission is more dangerous than punches than it is obvious that you luck of experience
@Nuthor no air moves in mma or ufc when I watch the a lot of the matches because doing those air moves hit direct at the head or shoulder bone. It's not completely useless when mma or ufc fighters suck at using it but just good at ground moves only. I seen real life fight someone use a spin kick in the air and knock someone out. mma/ufc goes by rules while other styles aren't allow to do they other moves. I said, in real life grappling someone get you hurt then the other who punch or kick you.
@ninjafalcon1 It's obvious you are young and with few if any at all real fight experience.
I tell you again check TKD vs jujitsu or kung fu vs Jujitsu or BJJ Vs Kung Fu, Judo, Kenpo Karate & Hapkido. (HD 720p)
Sorry man but kung fu sucks and not only against grapplers. No pure kung fu man could stand against an experienced muay tai man or a kyokushinkai fighter.
@Nuthor I'm not young as you think I am and I had fought in real life several time before so I know how its like. I check those video and it's just crap of making fun of kung fu and other styles too. Why kung fu suck for you because you suck at using it for real. it's not the style when it's you who uses it. Also, no pure mauy thai, grappler or kyokushikai man can stand against an experience kung fu fighter when it's not the style but the user. I can tell you never fought with a kung fu expert.
@ninjafalcon1 "Those who have practiced these arts twenty or thirty years have never defeated anyone who has practiced Western boxing or Judo. Why is this? It is because the practitioners of Shaolin and Wudang styles only pay attention to the beauty of their forms - they lack practical methods and spirit and have lost the true transmissions of their ancestors. Hence, our martial arts are viewed by outsiders merely as rigorous dancing." Zhiao Jiang. Chin na master
@Nuthor You are so wrong. In the history of China long ago, western boxers and wrestle did went up against Kung fu experts and they lost to them. It's not fake histories. Now in these days, kung fu seem more as dance and perform because they practices for exercise. But that doesn't make Kung fu weak and useless when it was use first in real fights way before. Also, your taking like those mma/ufc fans thinking bjj is all this or that when it has it's own weakness that style can be defeat too.
@ninjafalcon1 Who these boxers and westlers are then? Nevertheless, I see that you do accept that kung fu seems more like a dance. The fights you speak about where between kung fu men so no point to mention. i.e.: The reality: A Real Chinese Kung Fu Master Fight in 1953 吳公儀 大戰 陳克夫.
Btw, I've trained for more than 25 years in TKD, Kickboxing, Pugilism, Judo, Goshinryu Jujutsu and Hakkoryu Jujutsu apart from my Bjj training. I also trained for a few months in Hung gar.
@Nuthor Your not going to believe me whether I find the name of those boxer and wrestler. But who are those who train 20 or 30 year of kungfu and never defeat a boxer or wrestler? I don't have to accept nothing when I know kungfu is never more a dance move. If you say it's more a dance then tell me why is it known as selfdense and martial art? Dude, if you study martial art and talking crap about other style then you are just learning the martial art but have no respect of others style.
@ninjafalcon1 Did you check the video: A Real Chinese Kung Fu Master Fight in 1953 吳公儀 大戰 陳克夫.
They are true kung fu masters and they do look like ... You don't want to accept anything, neither the videos not even the opinion of chinese chin na master. I talk only for kung fu. They are deceive people for years using lies. i.e.: Qigong master projecting his chi energy part 2. Do you know that the history of Tai Chi and it's connection with Taoism is also wrong.
@Nuthor If your saying kung fu is useless and just more like a dance move then that is just you who suck at using it or you got beat by it before. people who say kungfu is weak is the one they really suck at learning real kungfu or they hate the style. Because now in these days, people watch too much kung fu movies and think it's fake and good in movie. That goes against Bruce Lee when he was the first who mix martial arts together and his real style he use is kung fu.
@ninjafalcon1 There is no true connection with Taoism according to Journal of Asian Martial Arts. Also Kung Fu masters say they can beat mma fighters easily. If someone says something like that, he has to prove it. Otherwise should keep his mouth shut. No respect to liers.
@Nuthor Kung fu masters never deceive lies anyone though who learn kungfu. Qigong is the meaning Chi of inner energy that you use your strength within. TaiChi is a style of exercise movement and self defense. Taoism are people who believe of harmony and defend it. And your wrong, a lot of mma/ufc fighters are the one who said they can beat kungfu and the style is useless. When they never fought out of the cage in life with no rules like kungfu has. otherwise, keep their mouth shut and no respect
@Nuthor Kung fu masters never deceive lies anyone though who learn kungfu. Qigong is the meaning Chi of inner energy that you use your strength within. TaiChi is a style of exercise movement and self defense. Taoism are people who believe of harmony and defend it. And your wrong, a lot of mma/ufc fighters are the one who said they can beat kungfu and the style is useless. When they never fought out of the cage in life with no rules like kungfu has. otherwise, keep their mouth shut and no respect
@Nuthor they pay attention to their forms, which is pretty beautiful. They are made of body stances to train a balance or accuracy in moves. Beautiful doesn't mean useless.
Please shut the fuck up about BJJ..I know it's dangerous, I know it's useful, but you can't just say that all a guy needs is to submit someone. People train in BJJ and then they get cocky, get it with someone experienced who somehow evades it and then you have nothing. It's good to learn all, but if you only praise one thing and think you're the best because of it, you are ready to lose.
that's well said, dude. to say that BJJ is a complete system (i.e., all you need to know) is the same as saying that kung fu is complete. sanda would be a complete art being that it does teach grappling and take downs, but it stops there. if someone were to study sanda and BJJ, they'd be a baaaad mutherfucka.
@bullshidohunter , I am WT learner, after I watch the brutal MuayTai fighter video, I suddenly realize, how can WT guy fight with those quick and strong fighter??? Even I like WT, I don't believe it anymore. I fell like if you are not physically strong , tall and quick, learn some martial arts is useless unless you are expert at something.
Obviously you're a moron. If I'm blind how could I reply to you? If I live under a rock I won't even have internet. I don't need to test my skills. I already used them and won. Of course there's a differences, Gracies no shit talking. You're the one who is full of number 2s aka Shit. 1) I didn't say you have to come NOW and tomorrow. I DID say if you came by to Toronto. 2) I will come by to your school when I go to Cali.
It's like me telling your to record your fight with Gary Lam. Don't be an idiot my fight challenge is for you. Wing Chun only talk with the fist. Since you're interested, why not accept my challenge? I don't know where your documents coming from but maybe you should stop watching too much TV.
Why would I take on Gracie? I mean if you go through all the comments below. You're the one doing the trash talk. Why bring out other people into this. If your MMA is all powerful I mean even an amateur yourself could handle a traditional martial artist like me.
Enough with your trash talk and show the youtube viewers your so called skills and prove your point. Unless you're scared.
@sirjarhead Well they had multiple chances to prove it and failed i'm sorry but I don't buy Kung Fu being so deadly and to answer arguments about dirty tactics working against MMA/BJJ guys, in a street fight there are no rules so i'd be more then happy to feed elbows in side control to someones nuts or shove my fingers in their eyes while I pound their face in mount, we don't have to play by the rules if given an incentive not to but your fighting a lost battle buddy, stick to your movies! :)
In a real fight, all you need to do is hit the right spot. Which only take 2 seconds. You can see that in UFC as well. I'm not saying WC or any TMA style can knock someone w/ 2 seconds. I'm saying in a real life situation that's what it suppose to be. It's to kill or be killed. I'm going not playing around with someone for 1-5mins. What's a waste of time and energy. Being for a long time doesn't mean it works better, but it shows it does work. Like I said depends on the person
TMA is not just strategy or perfectly accurate strikes. There's other factors like speed, angle, timing and body coordination. How could you compare boxing to Martial art if Martial arts were meant to kill whereas boxing like MMA is just a sport? It's like comparing a pencil with a knife. Sure you can a pencil could kill but that's not it's purpose.
Kung fu was used to kill during Warring states by soliders. Pretty ineffective if it takes more than a minute to kill.
@darkstorm300 in a realistic, coherent manner, similar to that of a real fight. whatever. go find an mma fighter and fight him. call 911 before you do so the cops can pull him off your half dead body. believer whatever you want tho, but you'll be the one who looks like an idiot talking shit about/to people who'd waste you in seconds.
Sorry Dude, but I faced many MMA fighters never lost once. Like I said to before to Bullshidohunter. Talk is nothing. If you want to challenge me, my door is always open. You and Bullshidohunter at the same time.
@darkstorm300 son wtf do you think happens when a ref doesn't pull an mma fighter off who is raining punches from full mount? that's right. he kills the guy. If wing chun or any other bullshit tma was superior to everything, then every mma champion would be a practitioner of that art. If you can't defend takedowns, submissions, and punches/kicks/elbows in the cage, what the fuck makes you think you could in "teh streetz'? an mma fighter would win because they are pressure tested and train
@bullshidohunter (cont) No one in the right mind. Will fight with you don't even say 3 rounds, if the real situation fight lasted for even 5 seconds, It's way too long. You can't knock the person out in 2 seconds. It's either you suck or he's just a better fighter. Every legit Wing Chun practitioner will tell you the same. To anything Southern Shaolin kung fu practitioner (Wing Chun, Hung Gar, White Brow), if they are on the ground they lost. So I'm pretty sure grappling won't work on them.
@bullshidohunter (cont2) Because they will do anything to avoid an attack or situation that will allow themselves to be on the ground. In Southern Shaolin Kungfu, energy and power comes from the ground, that's why they emphasize much on their horse stance.
It's suitable to cross train for the UFC b/c they have set of rules of things they can't do. Strike to the eyes, throat, back of the head and groin etc. Wing Chun have lasted for 300 years and it's still here for a reason. Any martial art style that have lasted this long will have seen all type of attacks. Through it's history and experiences. It's an art to kill and not for cage matches.
people read this: I love to do praktice WT in my garden with some friends.I`m shure the most people doing martial arts with the same reason. our shinig("big kungfu brother")teached us to be respectfull to every other fighter.im very with that.@Master Wong: i love your mental set. you are a very good person
@bullshidohunter he must not have been good at it, because wing chun is flawless against any strike and only attacks when they have an opening where they can hit but the opponent cannot. so in theory a wing chun guy should never lose if he is using it correctly. but ofcourse its not the style, its the person..however wing chun theory is the best when it comes to avoiding being hit, but also winning a fight as quickly as possible
wing chun wins in real fight situations, obviously it would be limited in MMA because it could end peoples careers for strikes to the knee, eyes, arm breaks, throat strikes all that stuff. besides i think a good wing chun guy could still win without those kindof strikes.
Kung Fu had its shot in the first UFCs to prove how good it is and it lost, its cool to see all that stuff demonstrated on a guy thats just standing there but when someone pushes the pace KF doesn't look so flashy and effective does it?? All the demos is nothing but show anyway reason being is that they say "Oh throw a strike at me or a takedown" they know whats coming so of course they're gonna look like they know what to do! It's ridiculous!
@bullshidohunter i can understand you are skeptical, nothing wrong with that, its the teacher you have to be more skeptical most. for me, i am very skeptical about Krav Maga, that style is not that old, and they have teachers giving demo's that are too much alike other traditional martial arts. Especially when i saw a KM teacher performing a demo, he was using Aikido. I am very familiar with Aikido. Most new fans of ufc will only know ufc so therefore they will only represent UFC, very ignorant
@bullshidohunter martial artists that fight is allways a brawl, but its the individual strike that you can tell if its martial arts or not. i know my friend got charged like other martial artists out there that get charged...if you are a martial artist...even a boxer and you get into a fight, you can get thrown in jail for, because automatically you are a weapon/ threat to society, you have to legally warn them out aloud 3 times..you should know this if you are a martial artist. well u know now.
@bullshidohunter there is too much shit in the martial arts community....all i see is wankas that just talk, and don't make any sense to me and what i have experienced. It hurts to see so many bullshit artists on here that just represent something they havent known long and havent experienced other styles, and that dont respect other styles. martial arts is martial arts.
@bullshidohunter i actually have seen WC performed by a chinese friend of mine, who was a security guard at the time, a few years ago, he lost his job and charged for inflicting grievous bodily harm . Just because he is a Martial art practitioner, and for defending himself against 2 guys. he knocked one guy out easily and broke the other guys jaw and arm, they striked him with a bar stool from behind. the guy he knocked out was a wrestler, i knew him. it was all over within 20 seconds.
@bullshidohunter boxing and muay thai boxing, which i ended up doing till i was 24, i am now 29 and i train others just for fitness and self defense, only friends and family,i've sparred pro boxers and kick boxers, i get alot of respect where i am from, because i love martial arts, and all combat sports. So of course when i come across a little dickweed like you. that probably has trained very little, and all of a sudden you are the man when it comes to martial arts. so excuse me if i SEEM PISSD
@bullshidohunter well al i can say is your are just full of shit, internet gives you alot of info that i never got when i was a teenager. and as for me, i know what the hell i am talking about. I studied martial arts at the age of 6, i started off doing Tae Kwon Do, i got to black belt by the age of 9 I couldnt carry it on because my sensei had to go back to South Korea. by the age of 11 i studied Kyokushin Karate for 2 years, Aikido at the age of 15 and while i was studying that i was doing
@bullshidohunter oh yes sorry i am the idiot, you must have seen these interviews on youtube, cos that would be the only way you would have seen it. your only fucking 20 years old, what the fuck would you know about martial arts at all?
Respond to this videso yeah hell yeah i think it would work. it might not kill in one hit but it is a one
unless they trap you some how. but i was jumped two times before me and two friends when i was a teen and trust me you do not want to roll around the ground if you do your getting stomped on so first lesson is never to get off your feet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YEAH<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<o...
@bullshidohunter what makes me thing that kung fu or karate would work? well first of all did you see the randy couture vs lyoto machida karate vs wrestler that can boxs , did you see the front kick to Randy face because Randy didnt
@SERGEda3RD What exactly did he speak up on?? He showed us a theory of what "could" happen not what does happen, I understand about the spirit of the person themselves that makes them great but cmon you search MMA or BJJ vs Kung Fu and you'll see what happens, 40+ videos can't be wrong!! The only thing Mr Wong here has shown us is he can talk a good talk and sound convincing but there for has not proven anything, i'm pretty sure if he asked nicely the Gracies would love to prove his theory wrong
@bullshidohunter I completely agree!! I have seen really funny videos of what a KF person could do if against an MMA or BJJ person and its all in slow mo demonstration, it's actually very humorous lol but just like in this video when that guy went in for a takedown, of course that shitty chop is gonna hurt ya if you shoot in at 0.2 MPH but to do that against someone who does a decent shoot in wont work and thats been proven so many times!!
Keep KF in movies cos thats the only place it will work!
Kung Fu had its chance to prove to the world how good it is in the first UFCs and it failed miserably!! Doing all those chops and chi strikes are great to someone who is standing still but to a moving opponent it's useless!! MMA is great cos it is the best of each art and using what is effective!!
So many times Kung Fu guys argue back with "I can hit you in the balls or attack your eyes" what kind of bitch fit shit is that??? MMA will always be the best cos it uses what works!! :)
The first ufc did let every do what they want to but not eye pokes and everyone had cups on their nuts. So that is two of the biggest weakness's take out already and in street fight there is no mapped floor so if you drop down on your knee for an single leg or double leg your knees are fucked. one more thing if you get jumped knowing wrestling or bbj will not help but kung fu karate and the other stuff might
Haha Kimbo Slice isn't the best example for a great MMA-fighter... :D And I think history has taught us that you CAN'T hit him 20 times. At least not with him still standing afterwards ;)
Fighting an untrained attacker and a focused, strong, trained fighter, are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. Get over it. Martial arts systems are helpful, as long you know that difference. Everything else is... for making "masters"(semi false gods...: ) ) to bow down to (many people feel -due to movie propaganda- a need to do this...!), while they get your money, your dignity and their glory. Please wake up friends. Always know what you are getting into. You're paying them, don't let them trash you!
"If mmmfigther does that, I do this, and he's dead!!" What nonsense! Wong is telling the guy what to do! Some "secrets": 1) Not knowing what the opponent will do, makes the great difference, between Wong&reality! 2) You knowing that you don't know what the opponent will do, cuts off a great deal from your reaction time! 3) Blocks are **almost** useless against a trained fighter (mma, boxer), especially blocks in Wing Ts/Chun manner 4) Man can take alot more pain as mmaf, boxers, wrestlers prove!
@Yourjoking999 why wouldnt it work its not something like oh the mma guys punch is to strong to block the strength of the attack is meant to be overlooked in a martial art like this
@Yourjoking999 What you say is true, it's like Tyson said "everyone has a plan until they get hit". BUT if you train to abide by rules, then you are limiting yourself to an extent, Master Wong is right a simple elbow to the spine or strikes to the vital areas in general may sound cliche but 1 they will do damage and two if you have trained to drill these kind of strikes into your routine you are more likely to utilize them. Styles aside, the fight comes from within, MMA to Tai Chi!
@Yourjoking999 but the thing is he is explaining in real life he has more understanding of the human body compared to a normal fighter like (mma fighters) he has a greater concentration and focus so he is able to do all the stuff he showed no matter the situation his mind is quick enough to adapt to the situation kung-fu they teach how to live not to fight in a ring f you put him in a ring with no rules fight not 1 fighter in the mma history would be able to take him down.
he doesn't know shit, Kimbo Slice didn't make it in the UFC, cardio sucked, got fired. In terms of MMA, MMA isn't one style and it's a sport of FIGHTING. So wing chun doesn't necessarily have to match up to one technique but several, such as muay thai, bjj, judo, kyokoshin, and etc. in terms of lethal attacks, all techniques have one muay thai has deadly elbows and they are modifications. I'm pretty sure a full on street fight muay thai vs. wc would be just as deadly.
@bullshidohunter pretty much as i said before it all got mixed in later down the line with krav maga teachers have been learning other styles before or after krav maga. this is how all martial arts have come about. krav maga is probably the youngest style been created so far, besides jeet kune do, but that hasnt been taught long enough because of the early death of the great bruce lee.
@bullshidohunter i totally agree with europe and the u.s. its too watered down. i know krav maga is not for ufc, i know someone that does krav maga and loves it and told me and showed me what krav maga is all about
@bullshidohunter styles keep beating each other, its a backwards and forwards thing, really its all about who got in first, whether it be a submission or a ko. martial art's my brother will allways be backwards and forwards arguement. this is the beauty of martial art's. we must cherish it, and not hate like many other people in the martial arts community have in the past and present. peace be with you
@bullshidohunter their wasnt many students in wc back then thats why. alot of shaolin styles aren't taught as freely as the other styles out there. with Krav maga, i seriously don't trust much arabs, because you can't just come up with an explosive martial arts style out of nowhere and call it your own. krav maga is just a compilation of self defense moves from alot of martial art styles. all in all my brother, martial arts is martial arts. all the same thing. all come from a source.
@bullshidohunter the wc practitioners today that are televised, aren't really that good, or haven't even studied for that long. you gotta remember wc was made for self defence, not sport, the ones that do it for sport are abusers of the art and they are crap anyway. so not much of an arguement their
@bullshidohunter krav maga is just martial arts, that style is not even that old, and all those moves i have seen in other traditional forms. GJJ is just Jiu Jitsu, pretty much all you have said is just stuff made mainstream for todays tv. i dont think you've been around much. Wing Chun is shaolin, created by a nun. shaolin are the most dedicated students of martial arts in the world. They Have been for centuries
@bullshidohunter you can't go on fight quest, thats just a stupid show, and they had rules and wore gloves and head gears for shits sake. it is practical and its not that hard really. wing chun and most other self defence styles have more than just strikes and grappling, they offer alot more extreme moves than sport does. because its called SELF DEFENCE. UFC is sport, nothing else.
@THEpillows100 ...or were you hoping having some wrestling background took away my stand up? Guess what? Most guys can't go for over three minutes. Endurance and awareness helps stand up.
@THEpillows100 I hope that helps you sleep at night. I've seen a lot of bar fights end in a quick head-butt to the face. Wrestler wins. My friend threw a boxer into a urinal, when two other Marines jumped him in the bathroom at boot camp. The other attacker backed off at the sight of blood. I hit a standing switch in a mosh pit once. The kid decided to stay down. My Hung Gar friend said I couldn't lift him for an airplane slam, then backed out in mid-air. Also, most wrestlers have better cardio.
@THEpillows100 My point is it's not all about ranged stand up. If a guy tries Wing Chun, and I rip his throat out with Eagle Claw, that's because grappling works. It can also be applied in viscous ways. My point is, a real fight actually goes to the ground or grappling range often. You're point is that I'm a homo. Logic is unrelentingly against you. I'm sorry you failed to come up with any.
@THEpillows100 Oh look everybody another person with an obviously wrong argument. I'm a fagot, so it must be true that one Wing Chun fighter beat a BJJ guy in a fight with no rules. Oh...wait. Those two things have nothing to do with each other. Also, I found that Gracie backed out of a fight with one of Bruce Lee's JKD students, because the guy knew how to wrestle. Gracie has video of him spanking Kung Fu fighters. If there's video of the opposite happening, please show me.
Oh look! Somebody insulted me, that means that reality changed so that one Kung-Fu guy beat a Gracie in a fight with no rules. Oh wait...that didn't happen.
i see a lot of these dumb people on youtube posting comments saying there style is better than yours, and then some body goes on a rant about "it all depends on the fighter and stop this hatred" but in reality this argument has been going on for a long time this is nothing new, masters in the 1900's would fight to see who style was better but so if you might as well ignore anybody who post comments saying theres is better, its nothing new
LMFAO this guys a legend. Thumbs up if you agree with master wong. If you don't then you no nothing about martial arts, or the difference between MMA and Wing Chun
@ShuyuKoukin umm....thanks wanka for your random dickheadness....no one spells properly, it's not like we are at school or a spelling bee ya fuckface. Thank You
@ilovemmamuaythaibox wow! sounds like a typical mma patriot!! haha. I can see where the stereotypes takes its root! haha
You don't need to win the spelling bee to spell correctly, okay? It might be crazy but some things ARE this easy! Did those chain punches to the face messed up your thinking process? I hope not..
@ShuyuKoukin are you even sure you have replied to the right person? cos i don't know where the hell you came from, i am nowhere near a mma patriot. I think you need to reply to the right person. You must be referring to the guy i've had a debate about mma, bjj etc etc.
@ilovemmamuaythaibox if you're the guy that called me a dickhead and a fuckface then yes, its you. what was suppose to be a harmless statement turned into a lot of misunderstanding. I really question your debates...I'm siding with the other person for sure since it looks like you have a hard time comprehending others and only want to win youtube arguments...your responses to me are great examples. grow up numbskull learn to read and understand the contents properly kiddo. (ﾟ∀ﾟ)
@ShuyuKoukin i meant before i called you a fuckface and dickhead, if you are siding with the others that i have been arguing with, well then you my friend are the MMA patriot. MMA is just a sport, some moves will work in the real world but wing chun would be more productive than MMA. go away please :)
@ilovemmamuaythaibox if that makes you happy then go ahead think all you like. not like a care. lol
On another note..MMA fighters are usually conditioned to fight and take blows...most Chinese martial artists aren't. So before you can use one of those special moves..you have to be able to at least take a few punches without falling down first. what wong said is true..but its not that easy kiddo. (ﾟ∀ﾟ)
No it is the art. Sorry. You just don't want to admit you've wasted your time on something that's not much more deadly then break dance fighting.
kzell11b 6 days ago
Master Wong kinda looks like Bj Penn lol
Tubularm8 2 weeks ago
You can practise gay hugging, or u can practise kung-fu.. u choose.
InSewerILive 1 month ago
@InSewerILive if thats the case then gay hugging it is cos its a hell of alot more effective than your fantasy garbage lol
You wanna know what happened to Kung Fu in the modern world of martial arts?? The Truth! Thats what happened!
If you believe in it so much then take your Kung Fu to an MMA gym and see how effective it really is but don't be so surprised when you get chewed up and spat out when they make you their prison bitch!
Or you can go on to believe people can dodge bullets.. you choose
someonefuktup 1 month ago
Guys guys guys...it's not that kungfu is better, or boxing is better or karate or mma is better. It depends on the PERSON, how much work he did in his art. You can be a boxer, but if you meet a master of gongfu he kicks the shit out of you. But also, you can be a hard practitioner of karate for 3 years, but if you meet a pro western boxer, then you fucked.
It's the artist, not the art.
Anyway I love these videos
belzebul 2 months ago
No idea what brings me back to this argument but these Kung Fu demonstrations are ridiculous, ok if someone shoots on you as slow as that guy did you deserve to be "fucking dead" but no one is gonna shoot that slow for instance if someone like GSP were to shoot on that guy he wont have enough time to raise his arm and get any kind of power in his strike!
KF in this modern day is a joke and has been surpassed majorly, might be about the fighter but you need the right tools aswell!
Cheers guys!
someonefuktup 3 months ago
This video is rather weird, however, he has a point "Its not the art, but the artist".
TheElectricGoop 3 months ago
I don't get why are people arguing about which fighting style are better, lets just say all of them are just in the same level but have different techniques. k bye.
DkBieber1 3 months ago
*Elbow to the back* Grappering? You fucking dead!!1! An elbow to a person going full bore on a takedown won't make him "fucking dead."
jewransom 3 months ago
Ok, I train Wing Chun, but this guy is just hilarious. I have been in the boxing ring etc, trained some mma, and it is not as easy as he makes it seem.
seraph101 3 months ago
Ok keyboard fighter.
Nuthor 4 months ago
Bla bla bla... real kung fu is deadly ...bla bla bla... real kung fu masters beat everyboby but no one has ever seen them ...bla bla bla the videos are not real bla bla bla ... No serious argument.
Btw Bruce lee was saying that karate sucks. But I guess that was ok. He was Bruce lee after all.
Grown up.
Buy.
Nuthor 5 months ago 5
@Nuthor I'll take your opinion seriously when you learn decent grammar.
gfvizc 4 months ago
@Nuthor Learn how to spell S M A R T - O N E.
BruceLeeCobain92 3 months ago
@BruceLeeCobain92 Yeah, yeah! Go play with your playstation now!
Nuthor 3 months ago
ahah Master Wong cusses a lot, I never heard my wing chun master cuss at all
kevinyang916 5 months ago
0:58 try that vs anderson silva LOL
JuSKallday 5 months ago
people wanna know which tecnique can teach u faster how to fight and how well is it gonna teach you kung fu teaches some very fast but unpowerfull hits , mma teaches u how to puch hard so u will make ur oponnent pain
3terminatorgr 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr I can tell you know nothing about kung fu but just now day mma or ufc stuffs. Try letting a kung fu expert punch or kick you and see if it hurt you in pain? people are watching too much movie of kung fu only and not see the real things about it. You maybe think kung fu is just fast but unpowerful then just wait until you get hit by one then you know. Kung fu, karate or other style teaches you powerful strike which you don't see it and you don't know about it..
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 i am doing karate and kick boxing . King boxing is almost the same as mma and when i compeete in kick boxing i take much more powerfull hits .I think that a powerfull right kick boxing punch can kill anybody . In russia about a month ago 1 mma fighter punched a much bigger guy and he killed him with a single hand , I hadn't ever heard of a that powerfull punch or hit in kung fu
3terminatorgr 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr Why kick boxing is use in ufc or mma now in these days because the styles became a sport style even if it's a self defense too. Kick boxing strongest attack is not the punch but their elbow and knee only. In kung fu, why didn't you heard or see the style does powerful hit because it's a style to protect one self and not to kill unless it's necessary. Same goes for karate too. Which explain why kung fu is banned out of mma or ufc when its self defense in real life and not sport use
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr I respect you as a karate and kick boxing fighter. But if your a martial artist, then you should know well and understand that some martial art styles aren't suppose to be use in cage or ring match since the styles is lethal that does deadly hits even if it's not hitting into the nut, eyes, or back of the neck. It's more use in self defense in real situation protecting yourself out there. but remember, not all powerful hit will make you win every match. Keep that in mind.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 ok not any martial art is used for cage or ring but i don't think that kung fu can protect u in the streets
3terminatorgr 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr I'm glad you know that some martial art styles aren't used for cage or ring. Well, that's your opinion. Because I train Kung Fu for 7 years now and some random people pick a fight with me out on the streets and I defend myself using Kung Fu but I don't kill them but just injury them so they won't cause no more trouble. It doesn't matter what styles you use to defend yourself on the streets but matter more how you use it to protect yourself. I'm sure you do understand what I mean.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr I'm glad you know that some martial art styles aren't used for cage or ring. Well, that's your opinion. Because I train Kung Fu for 7 years now and some random people pick a fight with me out on the streets and I defend myself using Kung Fu but I don't kill them but just injury them so they won't cause no more trouble. It doesn't matter what styles you use to defend yourself on the streets but matter more how you use it to protect yourself. You understand what I mean?
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 I know that kung fu can help up in street fights but mma kick boxing and muai thai are better a kung fu expert can defend from less people at the same time than a kick boxing mma or muai thai expert
3terminatorgr 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr Actually, not really that kung fu can protect you from less people at the same time when the styles itself train you to defend against multi-person too. I've been in real multi-fight before using kung fu so I know. Same as muay thai, you can defend yourself against 2 person if you know how to use the style. mma kick boxing is not that good as the real muay thai. Also, mma or ufc fighters are only train to fight one oppoment at the same time as how they were train not multi-person.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 yes but muaithai and kung fu users\fighters are not that powerfull . an mma guy can kill u with 1 punch
3terminatorgr 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr I don't think so at all because I seen and watch ufc and mma matches and they can't kill with one punch but just a knockout if the other oppoment couldn't take the hit. Even my older brother enjoy watch ufc or mma matches and never seen a punch that will kill their oppoment but only knock out each other out.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 that's cause they wear gloves ,couse the rulles don's allowe some hits , and the most important their opponent is the same well trained
3terminatorgr 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr even if they wear gloves or not. Their punch can't kill but just only does knock out on each others. But if you get hit so much you will be knock out or daze out from it, not kill.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 about a month ago in russia an mma fighter killed a guy with a single punch. The mma fighter was short and smaller than the other guy and the killed man was about 2 meteres long so ... an mma fighter can kill even a much bigger opponent with a single punch (this mma fighter is today in prison)
3terminatorgr 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr then that mma fighter must of cheated by putting something in his glove like metal because mma fighter single punch can't kill no one for real but only knock out if he get the punch shot to the other guy. I don't believe it can kill because I actually seen real fights before and no one kill but just knock out. I read about it, the guy was not kill by the punch but knock to the pavement which cause head trauma and that kill him. Not the punch. You should read carefully.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 no they actually find that he would be dead even without the hit at the pavement and he was wearing no gloves it was in real life not in any mma match
3terminatorgr 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr Dude, you did not read about it carefully as I did when the doctor agree with the expert saying that the guy wasn't kill by a punch when a strong punch or kick will only knock you out, not kill. He's head was hit on the pavement after getting punch and it was in the mma match not in real life o_O I can tell your a mma fan but the fact, mma or ufc fighters can't kill anyone with a punch when that is fake. Glove or no glove, can't kill but cause knock out when a good or lucky shot.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@3terminatorgr Dude, you read wrongly about that in russia. Because I read it, they say the doctor agree with the expert that the guy wasn't kill by the punch but his head hit on the pavement after getting hit down which cause head trauma and that kill him, not the punch. They were in the mma match. glove or no glove, will only cause knockout. I can tell your a mma fan but the fact, no mma or ufc fighters can kill with a punch when that's all fake. Right or wrong, what your saying is a fake here
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
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@3terminatorgr Dude, you read wrongly about that in russia. Because I read it, they say the doctor agree with the expert that the guy wasn't kill by the punch but his head hit on the pavement after getting hit down which cause head trauma and that kill him, not the punch. They were in the mma match. glove or no glove, will only cause knockout. I can tell your a mma fan but the fact, no mma or ufc fighters can kill with a punch when that's all fake. Right or wrong, what your saying is a fake here
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
The point of the boring story is that personality, discipline and determination are very important on a person in his life and also in fighting. We just got to respect every martial arts, what would happen if the discipline guy was the TKD guy? It would be a completely different story. PS: Very awesome video Master Wong I hope to se more of them and sorry for my english.
Jack861100 5 months ago
im really tired of every discussion of whatever style is best. I think that everybody has listen this all the time it's not the style is THE PRACTITIONER. I once saw a fighting between my former training partner when I practiced TKD and an MMA guy and the MMA guy owned the other one very fast. The TKD guy had 4 years experience in Olympic and traditional TKD, the MMA guy had 2 years of experience. The TKD guy was a wanna be greatest and the MMA guy was a fierce but peaceful guy.
Jack861100 5 months ago
At first I thought that this was a funny video.
The Master looks like a caricature of a typical kung fu man.
Master: If you are a good person like me... lol.
Any way, we still hear all these stories of kung fu masters who used to fight one another to see who's the best. Wing Chun (Wing Tsun) practitioners used to say they won most of no rules matches in hong kong.
Almost noboby died in these mortal combats!
Nuthor 6 months ago
Also kung fu fighters participated in the first MMA. They stopped after the realised they cannot win.
Supposedly now you are attacked by someone, if the only solution is to kill him then the art is useless. If I wanted to be a potential killer that I whould always carry a pistol with me, or at least a knife.
Nuthor 6 months ago
@Nuthor I disagree with you. Why kung fu and some other martial art styles is no longer in mma because of Kung Fu is not all base on ground moves but air moves as well which in the ufc and mma aren't allowing them to use air moves and using the cage for their advantage. Even thought kung fu user doesn't use killer moves, they will win ufc or mma fighters if there no rules. Beside, grappling or submission someone in real life is going to get you hurt more then the other who punches and kick you
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1
Air moves are indeed allowed in MMA. You don't see them because they are almost completely useless. They are also useless in real situations. There are videos from fights before MMA championships became official. The same results. Check in youtube for TKD vs MMA and Jiu jitsu Vs Kung fu and BJJ Vs Kung Fu, Judo, Kenpo Karate & Hapkido. (HD 720p) etc. Now about real life if you say that submission is more dangerous than punches than it is obvious that you luck of experience
Nuthor 5 months ago
@Nuthor no air moves in mma or ufc when I watch the a lot of the matches because doing those air moves hit direct at the head or shoulder bone. It's not completely useless when mma or ufc fighters suck at using it but just good at ground moves only. I seen real life fight someone use a spin kick in the air and knock someone out. mma/ufc goes by rules while other styles aren't allow to do they other moves. I said, in real life grappling someone get you hurt then the other who punch or kick you.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 It's obvious you are young and with few if any at all real fight experience.
I tell you again check TKD vs jujitsu or kung fu vs Jujitsu or BJJ Vs Kung Fu, Judo, Kenpo Karate & Hapkido. (HD 720p)
Sorry man but kung fu sucks and not only against grapplers. No pure kung fu man could stand against an experienced muay tai man or a kyokushinkai fighter.
Nuthor 5 months ago
@Nuthor I'm not young as you think I am and I had fought in real life several time before so I know how its like. I check those video and it's just crap of making fun of kung fu and other styles too. Why kung fu suck for you because you suck at using it for real. it's not the style when it's you who uses it. Also, no pure mauy thai, grappler or kyokushikai man can stand against an experience kung fu fighter when it's not the style but the user. I can tell you never fought with a kung fu expert.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 You start talking like the master on the video above :)
Sure you have fight for real! You are a true killer!
Have you any idea who Royce Gracie on the Bjj videos is?
The videos do make fun of kung fu and TKD but they are REAL!
Nuthor 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 "Those who have practiced these arts twenty or thirty years have never defeated anyone who has practiced Western boxing or Judo. Why is this? It is because the practitioners of Shaolin and Wudang styles only pay attention to the beauty of their forms - they lack practical methods and spirit and have lost the true transmissions of their ancestors. Hence, our martial arts are viewed by outsiders merely as rigorous dancing." Zhiao Jiang. Chin na master
Nuthor 5 months ago 2
@Nuthor You are so wrong. In the history of China long ago, western boxers and wrestle did went up against Kung fu experts and they lost to them. It's not fake histories. Now in these days, kung fu seem more as dance and perform because they practices for exercise. But that doesn't make Kung fu weak and useless when it was use first in real fights way before. Also, your taking like those mma/ufc fans thinking bjj is all this or that when it has it's own weakness that style can be defeat too.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 Who these boxers and westlers are then? Nevertheless, I see that you do accept that kung fu seems more like a dance. The fights you speak about where between kung fu men so no point to mention. i.e.: The reality: A Real Chinese Kung Fu Master Fight in 1953 吳公儀 大戰 陳克夫.
Btw, I've trained for more than 25 years in TKD, Kickboxing, Pugilism, Judo, Goshinryu Jujutsu and Hakkoryu Jujutsu apart from my Bjj training. I also trained for a few months in Hung gar.
Nuthor 5 months ago
@Nuthor Your not going to believe me whether I find the name of those boxer and wrestler. But who are those who train 20 or 30 year of kungfu and never defeat a boxer or wrestler? I don't have to accept nothing when I know kungfu is never more a dance move. If you say it's more a dance then tell me why is it known as selfdense and martial art? Dude, if you study martial art and talking crap about other style then you are just learning the martial art but have no respect of others style.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 Did you check the video: A Real Chinese Kung Fu Master Fight in 1953 吳公儀 大戰 陳克夫.
They are true kung fu masters and they do look like ... You don't want to accept anything, neither the videos not even the opinion of chinese chin na master. I talk only for kung fu. They are deceive people for years using lies. i.e.: Qigong master projecting his chi energy part 2. Do you know that the history of Tai Chi and it's connection with Taoism is also wrong.
Nuthor 5 months ago
@Nuthor If your saying kung fu is useless and just more like a dance move then that is just you who suck at using it or you got beat by it before. people who say kungfu is weak is the one they really suck at learning real kungfu or they hate the style. Because now in these days, people watch too much kung fu movies and think it's fake and good in movie. That goes against Bruce Lee when he was the first who mix martial arts together and his real style he use is kung fu.
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@ninjafalcon1 There is no true connection with Taoism according to Journal of Asian Martial Arts. Also Kung Fu masters say they can beat mma fighters easily. If someone says something like that, he has to prove it. Otherwise should keep his mouth shut. No respect to liers.
Nuthor 5 months ago
@Nuthor Kung fu masters never deceive lies anyone though who learn kungfu. Qigong is the meaning Chi of inner energy that you use your strength within. TaiChi is a style of exercise movement and self defense. Taoism are people who believe of harmony and defend it. And your wrong, a lot of mma/ufc fighters are the one who said they can beat kungfu and the style is useless. When they never fought out of the cage in life with no rules like kungfu has. otherwise, keep their mouth shut and no respect
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
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@Nuthor Kung fu masters never deceive lies anyone though who learn kungfu. Qigong is the meaning Chi of inner energy that you use your strength within. TaiChi is a style of exercise movement and self defense. Taoism are people who believe of harmony and defend it. And your wrong, a lot of mma/ufc fighters are the one who said they can beat kungfu and the style is useless. When they never fought out of the cage in life with no rules like kungfu has. otherwise, keep their mouth shut and no respect
ninjafalcon1 5 months ago
@Nuthor they pay attention to their forms, which is pretty beautiful. They are made of body stances to train a balance or accuracy in moves. Beautiful doesn't mean useless.
MaXingTien 1 month ago
Please shut the fuck up about BJJ..I know it's dangerous, I know it's useful, but you can't just say that all a guy needs is to submit someone. People train in BJJ and then they get cocky, get it with someone experienced who somehow evades it and then you have nothing. It's good to learn all, but if you only praise one thing and think you're the best because of it, you are ready to lose.
kirecorp 6 months ago
@kirecorp
that's well said, dude. to say that BJJ is a complete system (i.e., all you need to know) is the same as saying that kung fu is complete. sanda would be a complete art being that it does teach grappling and take downs, but it stops there. if someone were to study sanda and BJJ, they'd be a baaaad mutherfucka.
defiantwon33 6 months ago
You're all pussies.I'm the real guy that can kill you all.Anyplace,anytime bitches.
linkward 7 months ago
@linkward Who says we are going to fight u?
DkBieber1 7 months ago
@DkBieber1 You scared Bieber fan ?
linkward 7 months ago
@linkward No, just asking.
DkBieber1 7 months ago
@DkBieber1 Stop asking bullshit or I kill you.
linkward 7 months ago
@linkward I don't even know u....
DkBieber1 7 months ago
@linkward Oh no a keyboard warrior ooooooo the scariest of its kind!!!!!! Lol dude go crawl back under your rock! :)
someonefuktup 6 months ago
@someonefuktup You're fucked up, dirty piece of shit. Kill yourself alone.
linkward 6 months ago
@linkward Uh oh! You almost hurt one of my feelings, why don't you try hiding back in your mum's ass and quit being a retard!
someonefuktup 6 months ago
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DkBieber1 6 months ago
@someonefuktup linkward obviously don't know what martial arts are about. Its about respect, discipline and self defense.
DkBieber1 5 months ago
@bullshidohunter ''the reality is tht nearly no martial artist ever fought in a real fight''
Are you god? lol
MartialArtsCN 7 months ago
Is the filthy language necessary?
xianwuxing 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter , I am WT learner, after I watch the brutal MuayTai fighter video, I suddenly realize, how can WT guy fight with those quick and strong fighter??? Even I like WT, I don't believe it anymore. I fell like if you are not physically strong , tall and quick, learn some martial arts is useless unless you are expert at something.
asianboycn 7 months ago
The ultimate martial art is simply the will to do what the other is not willing to do.
0r14n583lt 7 months ago
Somebody should paint-ball that guy and then sprint as fast you can.
osheaad 7 months ago 2
@bullshidohunter
HAHAHA. Alright my man. No more trash talk. In Chinese there's a saying. Making friends with the fist (martial art). Lets do that when we meet up.
darkstorm300 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter
Obviously you're a moron. If I'm blind how could I reply to you? If I live under a rock I won't even have internet. I don't need to test my skills. I already used them and won. Of course there's a differences, Gracies no shit talking. You're the one who is full of number 2s aka Shit. 1) I didn't say you have to come NOW and tomorrow. I DID say if you came by to Toronto. 2) I will come by to your school when I go to Cali.
Name, Address and location please.
darkstorm300 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter
It's like me telling your to record your fight with Gary Lam. Don't be an idiot my fight challenge is for you. Wing Chun only talk with the fist. Since you're interested, why not accept my challenge? I don't know where your documents coming from but maybe you should stop watching too much TV.
And lets talk with our fist.
darkstorm300 7 months ago
Why would I take on Gracie? I mean if you go through all the comments below. You're the one doing the trash talk. Why bring out other people into this. If your MMA is all powerful I mean even an amateur yourself could handle a traditional martial artist like me.
Enough with your trash talk and show the youtube viewers your so called skills and prove your point. Unless you're scared.
darkstorm300 7 months ago
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darkstorm300 7 months ago
Mma bjj is good. But real Kung fu teaches you to kill not submit. Take eyes throat groun temple neck. In seconds not minutes.
sirjarhead 7 months ago
@sirjarhead Well they had multiple chances to prove it and failed i'm sorry but I don't buy Kung Fu being so deadly and to answer arguments about dirty tactics working against MMA/BJJ guys, in a street fight there are no rules so i'd be more then happy to feed elbows in side control to someones nuts or shove my fingers in their eyes while I pound their face in mount, we don't have to play by the rules if given an incentive not to but your fighting a lost battle buddy, stick to your movies! :)
someonefuktup 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter
In a real fight, all you need to do is hit the right spot. Which only take 2 seconds. You can see that in UFC as well. I'm not saying WC or any TMA style can knock someone w/ 2 seconds. I'm saying in a real life situation that's what it suppose to be. It's to kill or be killed. I'm going not playing around with someone for 1-5mins. What's a waste of time and energy. Being for a long time doesn't mean it works better, but it shows it does work. Like I said depends on the person
darkstorm300 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter (cont)
TMA is not just strategy or perfectly accurate strikes. There's other factors like speed, angle, timing and body coordination. How could you compare boxing to Martial art if Martial arts were meant to kill whereas boxing like MMA is just a sport? It's like comparing a pencil with a knife. Sure you can a pencil could kill but that's not it's purpose.
Kung fu was used to kill during Warring states by soliders. Pretty ineffective if it takes more than a minute to kill.
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darkstorm300 7 months ago
@darkstorm300 in a realistic, coherent manner, similar to that of a real fight. whatever. go find an mma fighter and fight him. call 911 before you do so the cops can pull him off your half dead body. believer whatever you want tho, but you'll be the one who looks like an idiot talking shit about/to people who'd waste you in seconds.
risingphoenix737 7 months ago
@risingphoenix737
Sorry Dude, but I faced many MMA fighters never lost once. Like I said to before to Bullshidohunter. Talk is nothing. If you want to challenge me, my door is always open. You and Bullshidohunter at the same time.
We'll see who's the idiot.
darkstorm300 7 months ago
@darkstorm300 son wtf do you think happens when a ref doesn't pull an mma fighter off who is raining punches from full mount? that's right. he kills the guy. If wing chun or any other bullshit tma was superior to everything, then every mma champion would be a practitioner of that art. If you can't defend takedowns, submissions, and punches/kicks/elbows in the cage, what the fuck makes you think you could in "teh streetz'? an mma fighter would win because they are pressure tested and train
risingphoenix737 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter (cont) No one in the right mind. Will fight with you don't even say 3 rounds, if the real situation fight lasted for even 5 seconds, It's way too long. You can't knock the person out in 2 seconds. It's either you suck or he's just a better fighter. Every legit Wing Chun practitioner will tell you the same. To anything Southern Shaolin kung fu practitioner (Wing Chun, Hung Gar, White Brow), if they are on the ground they lost. So I'm pretty sure grappling won't work on them.
darkstorm300 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter (cont2) Because they will do anything to avoid an attack or situation that will allow themselves to be on the ground. In Southern Shaolin Kungfu, energy and power comes from the ground, that's why they emphasize much on their horse stance.
darkstorm300 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter
It's suitable to cross train for the UFC b/c they have set of rules of things they can't do. Strike to the eyes, throat, back of the head and groin etc. Wing Chun have lasted for 300 years and it's still here for a reason. Any martial art style that have lasted this long will have seen all type of attacks. Through it's history and experiences. It's an art to kill and not for cage matches.
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darkstorm300 7 months ago
people read this: I love to do praktice WT in my garden with some friends.I`m shure the most people doing martial arts with the same reason. our shinig("big kungfu brother")teached us to be respectfull to every other fighter.im very with that.@Master Wong: i love your mental set. you are a very good person
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spildaleidodomo 7 months ago
what kind of joke is that?
also i hate titles like mma vs. any other ma.
moxigen 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter he must not have been good at it, because wing chun is flawless against any strike and only attacks when they have an opening where they can hit but the opponent cannot. so in theory a wing chun guy should never lose if he is using it correctly. but ofcourse its not the style, its the person..however wing chun theory is the best when it comes to avoiding being hit, but also winning a fight as quickly as possible
AsG1989 7 months ago
wing chun wins in real fight situations, obviously it would be limited in MMA because it could end peoples careers for strikes to the knee, eyes, arm breaks, throat strikes all that stuff. besides i think a good wing chun guy could still win without those kindof strikes.
AsG1989 7 months ago
@AsG1989 i'm with bullshidohunter all the way!!
Kung Fu had its shot in the first UFCs to prove how good it is and it lost, its cool to see all that stuff demonstrated on a guy thats just standing there but when someone pushes the pace KF doesn't look so flashy and effective does it?? All the demos is nothing but show anyway reason being is that they say "Oh throw a strike at me or a takedown" they know whats coming so of course they're gonna look like they know what to do! It's ridiculous!
someonefuktup 7 months ago
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@AsG1989 I agree with you there, dude.
ninjafalcon1 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter i can understand you are skeptical, nothing wrong with that, its the teacher you have to be more skeptical most. for me, i am very skeptical about Krav Maga, that style is not that old, and they have teachers giving demo's that are too much alike other traditional martial arts. Especially when i saw a KM teacher performing a demo, he was using Aikido. I am very familiar with Aikido. Most new fans of ufc will only know ufc so therefore they will only represent UFC, very ignorant
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter martial artists that fight is allways a brawl, but its the individual strike that you can tell if its martial arts or not. i know my friend got charged like other martial artists out there that get charged...if you are a martial artist...even a boxer and you get into a fight, you can get thrown in jail for, because automatically you are a weapon/ threat to society, you have to legally warn them out aloud 3 times..you should know this if you are a martial artist. well u know now.
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter there is too much shit in the martial arts community....all i see is wankas that just talk, and don't make any sense to me and what i have experienced. It hurts to see so many bullshit artists on here that just represent something they havent known long and havent experienced other styles, and that dont respect other styles. martial arts is martial arts.
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter i actually have seen WC performed by a chinese friend of mine, who was a security guard at the time, a few years ago, he lost his job and charged for inflicting grievous bodily harm . Just because he is a Martial art practitioner, and for defending himself against 2 guys. he knocked one guy out easily and broke the other guys jaw and arm, they striked him with a bar stool from behind. the guy he knocked out was a wrestler, i knew him. it was all over within 20 seconds.
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter boxing and muay thai boxing, which i ended up doing till i was 24, i am now 29 and i train others just for fitness and self defense, only friends and family,i've sparred pro boxers and kick boxers, i get alot of respect where i am from, because i love martial arts, and all combat sports. So of course when i come across a little dickweed like you. that probably has trained very little, and all of a sudden you are the man when it comes to martial arts. so excuse me if i SEEM PISSD
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter well al i can say is your are just full of shit, internet gives you alot of info that i never got when i was a teenager. and as for me, i know what the hell i am talking about. I studied martial arts at the age of 6, i started off doing Tae Kwon Do, i got to black belt by the age of 9 I couldnt carry it on because my sensei had to go back to South Korea. by the age of 11 i studied Kyokushin Karate for 2 years, Aikido at the age of 15 and while i was studying that i was doing
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter i know right? the kid is a joke lmao
ShuyuKoukin 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter oh yes sorry i am the idiot, you must have seen these interviews on youtube, cos that would be the only way you would have seen it. your only fucking 20 years old, what the fuck would you know about martial arts at all?
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@bullshidohunter you must like reading alot of wikipedia :)
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@ilovemmamuaythaibox better yet, please dont, i dont wanna carry on anymore, bye bye :)
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
Respond to this videso yeah hell yeah i think it would work. it might not kill in one hit but it is a one
unless they trap you some how. but i was jumped two times before me and two friends when i was a teen and trust me you do not want to roll around the ground if you do your getting stomped on so first lesson is never to get off your feet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YEAH<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<o...
jackaxxxx 8 months ago
@bullshidohunter what makes me thing that kung fu or karate would work? well first of all did you see the randy couture vs lyoto machida karate vs wrestler that can boxs , did you see the front kick to Randy face because Randy didnt
jackaxxxx 8 months ago
It was hard understanding Mr Wong but I think I have a rough idea......
"If someone does a takedown on me...... i'm fuckin dead!!"
"If I fight Kumbo Sly.......... i'm fuckin dead!!"
"If I walk down the street......... i'm fuckin dead!!"
"if I ate a grape......... i'm fuckin dead!!"
And something about him living in a coffin.
someonefuktup 8 months ago
THANK YOU WONG SIFU !!!! ITS ABOUT TIME A REAL MASTER SPEAKS UP NOT THE WANNA BE EXPERTS THAT JUMP IN THE RING
SERGEda3RD 8 months ago
@SERGEda3RD What exactly did he speak up on?? He showed us a theory of what "could" happen not what does happen, I understand about the spirit of the person themselves that makes them great but cmon you search MMA or BJJ vs Kung Fu and you'll see what happens, 40+ videos can't be wrong!! The only thing Mr Wong here has shown us is he can talk a good talk and sound convincing but there for has not proven anything, i'm pretty sure if he asked nicely the Gracies would love to prove his theory wrong
someonefuktup 8 months ago
@bullshidohunter I completely agree!! I have seen really funny videos of what a KF person could do if against an MMA or BJJ person and its all in slow mo demonstration, it's actually very humorous lol but just like in this video when that guy went in for a takedown, of course that shitty chop is gonna hurt ya if you shoot in at 0.2 MPH but to do that against someone who does a decent shoot in wont work and thats been proven so many times!!
Keep KF in movies cos thats the only place it will work!
someonefuktup 8 months ago
Kung Fu had its chance to prove to the world how good it is in the first UFCs and it failed miserably!! Doing all those chops and chi strikes are great to someone who is standing still but to a moving opponent it's useless!! MMA is great cos it is the best of each art and using what is effective!!
So many times Kung Fu guys argue back with "I can hit you in the balls or attack your eyes" what kind of bitch fit shit is that??? MMA will always be the best cos it uses what works!! :)
someonefuktup 8 months ago 3
The first ufc did let every do what they want to but not eye pokes and everyone had cups on their nuts. So that is two of the biggest weakness's take out already and in street fight there is no mapped floor so if you drop down on your knee for an single leg or double leg your knees are fucked. one more thing if you get jumped knowing wrestling or bbj will not help but kung fu karate and the other stuff might
jackaxxxx 8 months ago
@TomSpartan218 mma allows neck and testicle shots?
datlancboi018 8 months ago
lmfao
synthrone 8 months ago
i gotta question for evan, if theres a hot chick who does wing chun & you spar, do you let her win? LOL
DjRodimusPrimeXyZ 8 months ago
if a man dies from one elbow strike, UFC would be pretty boring to watch
IlovelouisDTV 8 months ago
Haha Kimbo Slice isn't the best example for a great MMA-fighter... :D And I think history has taught us that you CAN'T hit him 20 times. At least not with him still standing afterwards ;)
PhilcoreTheLoud 8 months ago
When Chuck Norris goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Master Wong!
ImIwilliamImI 8 months ago
WOW !!! THATS A LOT OF "F" WORDS !!!!
REDX50 8 months ago
Fighting an untrained attacker and a focused, strong, trained fighter, are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. Get over it. Martial arts systems are helpful, as long you know that difference. Everything else is... for making "masters"(semi false gods...: ) ) to bow down to (many people feel -due to movie propaganda- a need to do this...!), while they get your money, your dignity and their glory. Please wake up friends. Always know what you are getting into. You're paying them, don't let them trash you!
Yourjoking999 8 months ago
"If mmmfigther does that, I do this, and he's dead!!" What nonsense! Wong is telling the guy what to do! Some "secrets": 1) Not knowing what the opponent will do, makes the great difference, between Wong&reality! 2) You knowing that you don't know what the opponent will do, cuts off a great deal from your reaction time! 3) Blocks are **almost** useless against a trained fighter (mma, boxer), especially blocks in Wing Ts/Chun manner 4) Man can take alot more pain as mmaf, boxers, wrestlers prove!
Yourjoking999 8 months ago 11
@Yourjoking999 why wouldnt it work its not something like oh the mma guys punch is to strong to block the strength of the attack is meant to be overlooked in a martial art like this
CuzImmaNinja 8 months ago
@Yourjoking999 What you say is true, it's like Tyson said "everyone has a plan until they get hit". BUT if you train to abide by rules, then you are limiting yourself to an extent, Master Wong is right a simple elbow to the spine or strikes to the vital areas in general may sound cliche but 1 they will do damage and two if you have trained to drill these kind of strikes into your routine you are more likely to utilize them. Styles aside, the fight comes from within, MMA to Tai Chi!
raduz123 7 months ago
@Yourjoking999 but the thing is he is explaining in real life he has more understanding of the human body compared to a normal fighter like (mma fighters) he has a greater concentration and focus so he is able to do all the stuff he showed no matter the situation his mind is quick enough to adapt to the situation kung-fu they teach how to live not to fight in a ring f you put him in a ring with no rules fight not 1 fighter in the mma history would be able to take him down.
crackzilla99 7 months ago
he doesn't know shit, Kimbo Slice didn't make it in the UFC, cardio sucked, got fired. In terms of MMA, MMA isn't one style and it's a sport of FIGHTING. So wing chun doesn't necessarily have to match up to one technique but several, such as muay thai, bjj, judo, kyokoshin, and etc. in terms of lethal attacks, all techniques have one muay thai has deadly elbows and they are modifications. I'm pretty sure a full on street fight muay thai vs. wc would be just as deadly.
phoLegit 8 months ago
Haha this Master is fucking awesome! His swearing makes it all that much better.
kou12 8 months ago
Master Wong belongs in a Guy Ritchie movie. He's hilarious. Stupid, but hilarious.
theplunkinator 8 months ago
@bullshidohunter pretty much as i said before it all got mixed in later down the line with krav maga teachers have been learning other styles before or after krav maga. this is how all martial arts have come about. krav maga is probably the youngest style been created so far, besides jeet kune do, but that hasnt been taught long enough because of the early death of the great bruce lee.
ilovemmamuaythaibox 8 months ago
@bullshidohunter i totally agree with europe and the u.s. its too watered down. i know krav maga is not for ufc, i know someone that does krav maga and loves it and told me and showed me what krav maga is all about
ilovemmamuaythaibox 8 months ago
@bullshidohunter styles keep beating each other, its a backwards and forwards thing, really its all about who got in first, whether it be a submission or a ko. martial art's my brother will allways be backwards and forwards arguement. this is the beauty of martial art's. we must cherish it, and not hate like many other people in the martial arts community have in the past and present. peace be with you
ilovemmamuaythaibox 8 months ago
@bullshidohunter no style is better than the other, its just martial arts
ilovemmamuaythaibox 9 months ago
@bullshidohunter their wasnt many students in wc back then thats why. alot of shaolin styles aren't taught as freely as the other styles out there. with Krav maga, i seriously don't trust much arabs, because you can't just come up with an explosive martial arts style out of nowhere and call it your own. krav maga is just a compilation of self defense moves from alot of martial art styles. all in all my brother, martial arts is martial arts. all the same thing. all come from a source.
ilovemmamuaythaibox 9 months ago
Kimbo Sly! HA HA!
KONABOII93 9 months ago
@bullshidohunter the wc practitioners today that are televised, aren't really that good, or haven't even studied for that long. you gotta remember wc was made for self defence, not sport, the ones that do it for sport are abusers of the art and they are crap anyway. so not much of an arguement their
ilovemmamuaythaibox 9 months ago
@bullshidohunter krav maga is just martial arts, that style is not even that old, and all those moves i have seen in other traditional forms. GJJ is just Jiu Jitsu, pretty much all you have said is just stuff made mainstream for todays tv. i dont think you've been around much. Wing Chun is shaolin, created by a nun. shaolin are the most dedicated students of martial arts in the world. They Have been for centuries
ilovemmamuaythaibox 9 months ago
ping
jcruz42069 9 months ago
@bullshidohunter you can't go on fight quest, thats just a stupid show, and they had rules and wore gloves and head gears for shits sake. it is practical and its not that hard really. wing chun and most other self defence styles have more than just strikes and grappling, they offer alot more extreme moves than sport does. because its called SELF DEFENCE. UFC is sport, nothing else.
ilovemmamuaythaibox 9 months ago
WOW! Master Wong mentioned Kimbo! That's crazy! Cool!!!
werytraveler 9 months ago
@THEpillows100 ...or were you hoping having some wrestling background took away my stand up? Guess what? Most guys can't go for over three minutes. Endurance and awareness helps stand up.
LeifEricson123 9 months ago
@THEpillows100 I hope that helps you sleep at night. I've seen a lot of bar fights end in a quick head-butt to the face. Wrestler wins. My friend threw a boxer into a urinal, when two other Marines jumped him in the bathroom at boot camp. The other attacker backed off at the sight of blood. I hit a standing switch in a mosh pit once. The kid decided to stay down. My Hung Gar friend said I couldn't lift him for an airplane slam, then backed out in mid-air. Also, most wrestlers have better cardio.
LeifEricson123 9 months ago
@THEpillows100 Not on my worst day, and not one out of a thousand times by you.
LeifEricson123 9 months ago
@THEpillows100 My point is it's not all about ranged stand up. If a guy tries Wing Chun, and I rip his throat out with Eagle Claw, that's because grappling works. It can also be applied in viscous ways. My point is, a real fight actually goes to the ground or grappling range often. You're point is that I'm a homo. Logic is unrelentingly against you. I'm sorry you failed to come up with any.
LeifEricson123 9 months ago
@THEpillows100 I'm sorry fights aren't like Street Fighter 4.
LeifEricson123 9 months ago
@THEpillows100 Oh look everybody another person with an obviously wrong argument. I'm a fagot, so it must be true that one Wing Chun fighter beat a BJJ guy in a fight with no rules. Oh...wait. Those two things have nothing to do with each other. Also, I found that Gracie backed out of a fight with one of Bruce Lee's JKD students, because the guy knew how to wrestle. Gracie has video of him spanking Kung Fu fighters. If there's video of the opposite happening, please show me.
LeifEricson123 9 months ago
Oh look! Somebody insulted me, that means that reality changed so that one Kung-Fu guy beat a Gracie in a fight with no rules. Oh wait...that didn't happen.
LeifEricson123 9 months ago
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LeifEricson123 9 months ago
this master is very wise just please dont use the f word
people will respect him even more
fishihagadol 9 months ago
this master is very wise just please dont use the f word
people will respect him even more
fishihagadol 9 months ago
i agree with master Wong ... but is master Wong really that badass, potty-mouth guy hmmm... really don't know...
octavianAgustus 9 months ago
i see a lot of these dumb people on youtube posting comments saying there style is better than yours, and then some body goes on a rant about "it all depends on the fighter and stop this hatred" but in reality this argument has been going on for a long time this is nothing new, masters in the 1900's would fight to see who style was better but so if you might as well ignore anybody who post comments saying theres is better, its nothing new
KrAzyOaK 9 months ago
LMFAO this guys a legend. Thumbs up if you agree with master wong. If you don't then you no nothing about martial arts, or the difference between MMA and Wing Chun
ilovemmamuaythaibox 9 months ago
@ilovemmamuaythaibox and YOU "know" nothing about spelling lol..anyways I agree with wong haha
ShuyuKoukin 8 months ago
@ShuyuKoukin umm....thanks wanka for your random dickheadness....no one spells properly, it's not like we are at school or a spelling bee ya fuckface. Thank You
ilovemmamuaythaibox 8 months ago
@ilovemmamuaythaibox wow! sounds like a typical mma patriot!! haha. I can see where the stereotypes takes its root! haha
You don't need to win the spelling bee to spell correctly, okay? It might be crazy but some things ARE this easy! Did those chain punches to the face messed up your thinking process? I hope not..
Btw You're Welcome~(ﾟ∀ﾟ)
ShuyuKoukin 7 months ago
@ShuyuKoukin are you even sure you have replied to the right person? cos i don't know where the hell you came from, i am nowhere near a mma patriot. I think you need to reply to the right person. You must be referring to the guy i've had a debate about mma, bjj etc etc.
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@ilovemmamuaythaibox if you're the guy that called me a dickhead and a fuckface then yes, its you. what was suppose to be a harmless statement turned into a lot of misunderstanding. I really question your debates...I'm siding with the other person for sure since it looks like you have a hard time comprehending others and only want to win youtube arguments...your responses to me are great examples. grow up numbskull learn to read and understand the contents properly kiddo. (ﾟ∀ﾟ)
ShuyuKoukin 7 months ago
@ShuyuKoukin i meant before i called you a fuckface and dickhead, if you are siding with the others that i have been arguing with, well then you my friend are the MMA patriot. MMA is just a sport, some moves will work in the real world but wing chun would be more productive than MMA. go away please :)
ilovemmamuaythaibox 7 months ago
@ilovemmamuaythaibox if that makes you happy then go ahead think all you like. not like a care. lol
On another note..MMA fighters are usually conditioned to fight and take blows...most Chinese martial artists aren't. So before you can use one of those special moves..you have to be able to at least take a few punches without falling down first. what wong said is true..but its not that easy kiddo. (ﾟ∀ﾟ)
ShuyuKoukin 7 months ago