Intelligent atheist will convert to Islam after watching this video (prat 3)

[saintpine]

The video makes two mistakes. 720.000km/h = 17.28 million km/day

But in reality it’s 900.000km/h which is about 21.6million km/day.

But anyway all this have nothing to do with the Koran.

[saintpine]

How silly and naive can man get.

They swim along each in an orbit. Obviously we have water in the sky, and everything swims along, we often have water that falls to earth and we call it rain.

And the sun runs to its resting place, sure its stays there sleeping for the night and then moves again the day after.

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine you said 'HOW SILLY AND NAIVE CAN MAN GET' u should say this to yourself.

I just want to rewrite the verse from the holy quran:

And the Sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. And We have decreed set phases for the Moon, until it ends up looking like an old palm spathe. It is not for the Sun to overtake the Moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in an orbit. (Surah Ya Sin, 38-40).

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[saintpine]

@TheMultitube1

1. There is no resting place for the sun.

2. There are no set phases for the Moon, what can be seen ONLY from the earth are simply the consequences of the shadows of the earth on the moon.

3. Why the hell mention overtaking between the sun or the moon? They are NOT on the same track, they are not even on simular orbits, it looks like they are from the earths perspective.

4. it should be clear that each one has an orbit across the earth according to this verse, which is WRONG.

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine the word ‘wraps’ used in the English verse is not the accurate meaning, the Arabic word is ‘yokower’ which means in the dictionary to conglobate (to wrap into a ball or a sphere). But people back then thought that the earth was flat?

It is he who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, they swim along EACH in an orbit.” Again it’s the same incorrect translation the word is ‘kulan’ not ‘kulahuma’ the night and the day also have an orbit which is the earth rotation.

[saintpine]

@TheMultitube1

I've been quite clear with my previous message, I cannot follow your messages if you don't quote whatever you are referring to, I week has passes since my last messages.

Anyway it's clear that you are practicing some good mirror climbing to protect the nonsense in your fairy tale.

With this type or mirror climbing, the versus could mean anything you want and most likely it’s whatever a desert dweller 1400 years ago would know and not the meaning you are trying to give.

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine The word ‘All’ here refers to the earth, sun and the moon because If this was only to describe the movement of moon and the sun the Arabic word ‘kulan’ wouldn’t be used because it a plural for more than two. In addition if this is verse was only about the movement of the sun and the moon the word ‘kulahuma’ would be used which means 2 of them.

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine There is also another verse in the Quran that mentions that the earth also moves.

He created the heavens and EARTH in truth He wraps the night over the day and wraps the day over the night and has subjected the SUN and the MOON, ALL running [its course] for a specified term. Unquestionably, He is the Exalted in Might, the Perpetual Forgiver.39:5

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine The Quran mentioned correctly that the sun and the moon are in different tracks ‘each one swims in an orbit’. It means that each one have its own track.

From 1400 years ago the Quran corrected the thoughts of people who thought that the sun and the moon have the same path ‘it’s not for Sun to overtake the Moon’.

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine The sun is heading or drifting toward an unknown destination. Some scientists claim that the sun is running toward the Star Vega, and others say that it is running toward a black hole. But we certainly know for sure that according to Noble Verse 36:38, the sun is heading toward a "resting place."

So you can’t argue about that because it didn’t happen yet.

[TheMultitube1]

...., the Sun also moves through its own course.

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine What you said wasn’t even said in the Quran. The quranic verse may therefore be referring to the Sun’s independent movement in the universe, independent of any other celestial body. (Allah knows the truth.) It is impossible for us to see or follow the movement of the Sun with our own eyes. It is only possible to determine that movement using special technological equipment. As stated in verse 39 of Surah Ya Sin, in addition to rotating around its own axis once every 26 days

[TheMultitube1]

Lastly you made fun of the quran without any knowldge ’ And the sun runs to its resting place, sure its stays there sleeping for the night and then moves again the day after'

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine The movements of the Sun and Moon in verse 40 of Surah Ya Sin are described by the Arabic word "yasbahoona," meaning “flowing, passing or swimming.” And obviously god didn’t say any’ water in the sky.The Arabic language is very different to English in everything and quran is written in Arabic and should understood in Arabic and any translation will not be 100% accurate because its translated by a human but it have to be translated to make everyone understands it :).

[saintpine]

@TheMultitube1

Let’s put it this way, you explain to me in a very simple way what the Koran is saying and I will argue YOUR interpretation, because for all I can see, you need quite a lot of mirror climbing to be able to make any sense out of these versus, and it's useless debating with a shifting interpretation.

[TheMultitube1]

As you pointed out ‘They swim along each in an orbit. Obviously we have water in the sky, and everything swims along, we often have water that falls to earth and we call it rain.

[saintpine]

@TheMultitube1 "Obviously we have water in the sky, and everything swims along, we often have water that falls to earth and we call it rain."

1. Are you sure we have water in the sky?

2. Are you sure things swim along in this water?

3. Do you have an idea how rain is formed?

"And the sun runs to its resting place, sure its stays there sleeping for the night and then moves again the day after"

4- Do you seriously believe the Sun has a rest place ?

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine The quote says ‘And the sun runs to its resting place’ it means that the sun is still moving and didn’t stop or reach her resting or stopping point yet, because the quote is in the present tense so it’s still happening.

And of course I know how rain is formed :))) but it’s not even relevant. The Quran is not a science textbook but it still contains many scientific facts and I can tell you some of them if u wish. Quran is the book of signs not science

[saintpine]

@TheMultitube1 "The quote says ‘And the sun runs to its resting place’ it means that the sun is still moving and didn’t stop or reach her resting or stopping point yet, because the quote is in the present tense so it’s still happening."

Why talk about resting place? There is no resting place; the sun has a continuous nonstop movement.

“And of course I know how rain is formed :))) but it’s not even relevant.”

Why is it not relevant?

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine The Quran says that each the moon and the sun have an orbit that they swim or flow in it. ''each one is swimming in an orbit’ what scientists discovered that the sun moves at a high speed of 1720000 km/day with all the planets. I just want to remind u that the Quran referred to the movement of the sun by using the word runs which means moving quickly which is prior to science.

[saintpine]

@TheMultitube1 "1720000 km/day with all the planets"

where do you get these strange numbers?

“sun by using the word runs which means moving quickly”

From our perspective on earth we see the sun and the moon moving, it doesn’t take a genius to make this claim.

How do you expect this to be an amazing fact to non-believer, when there is absolutely no evidence that the authors understood exactly how things worked and this verse had anything to do with the suns movement in the galaxy.

[saintpine]

@TheMultitube1

“33. It is he who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, they swim along each in an orbit.”

It’s quite clear that this verse has nothing to do with the movement in the galaxy, considering that the sun and the moon (partially) are involved in the night and day process.

“they swim along each in an orbit”

This is what we see from the earth’s perspective.

[TheMultitube1]

@saintpine Obviously we have no water in the sky and I am not even going to talk about it because the Koran didn't even say that Arabic word "yasbahoona," meaning “flowing, passing or swimming.” And obviously god didn’t say any water in the sky.

[saintpine]

@TheMultitube1

So what did the Koran say exactly?

[wanapit]

Subhanallah...

[klank67]

this is laughable

[scientiavictoria]

Rather one day of science and modernization of earths society than ten million years of reading ancient books written by bronze age simple-minds. Wherever education rise religion falls, religion has its greatest days behind it

[MrHumpAl0t]

haha i love you how on your title your saying that intelligent athiests will convert to islam after watching this video then you spell part wrong.

[partridgecaravan]

"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. (From the NIV Bible, Ecclesiastes 1:5)" "that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it? (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:13)" Job 37:33 He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth.

[partridgecaravan]

Allahhuakhbar!!!

[partridgecaravan]

"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)" "Say among the nations, "The LORD reigns." The world is firmly established, it cannot be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 96:10)" "He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble. (From the NIV Bible, Job 9:6)"

"Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand. (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:4)"

wow!!

[Bozeman42]

That is some weak stuff. Truely pathetic.

"Paths and orbits" Just the stars that you can see with your eyes. that's all you need to say something like that. Things DO collide. For instance, a comet 's perfect chosen path recently sent it straight into jupiter. Ever hear of a meteor shower? that's things hitting earth. This is truely a pathetic effort.

[saintpine]

@Bozeman42

I agree, and usual the sheep all fall for this bullshit.

[Janiloveyou12]

amazing mashallah. keep up the good work