No Logo was a great read. Especially liked the American school kids making a stand when they realised their uniforms had possibly come from sweat shops. Heh ha.
As for the video, David Frost is quite probably THE worst interviewer in the history of television, and he got progressively worse with age. Dull dude is dull.
Conservatives didn't cause the Katrina disaster, but, they did allow a massive oil-tanker canal to remain open, thereby letting the ocean into the city further than it should have been... also, the swamps that would have dampened the hurricane were destroyed by free market practices, so there is a loose connection between social Darwinism & that particular disaster. Regarding 9/11, not enough was done to prevent the attacks. Bush was on holiday & trivialised warnings; didn't cause it though!
What do you mean "the Anti-globalization movement doesn't go in for hero worship?" I guess one of your genius al Jizmeera researchers told you that? They cream their jeans at the mention of Klein, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, and Iran's Ahmadinutcase to name a few.
klein is an intellectually vacant whore who is capitalizing off suckers stupid enough to but her badly written conspiracy-theory crud.
@TheJuniorRodriguez While she does write about conspiracies, she provides everything from quotes to articles to transcripts, in the book. There's nothing theoretical about the books content.
So intent so thick in this bloody horrible plot is so very important isn't it? Either it's being prepared for the worst case unforseeable unintended consequence with radical human killing policies. Or, it's being forced up the population on purpose. I happen to believe the ladder. If you can't admit that people are sometimes vicious and do really absurd, crazy, and violent things to one another, you aren't living on the same planet as me. All of it adds up!
She is just giving US ALL another reason to step onto the trains.
That is all that she is doing!
The same result but with a different tone (strapping the bad boys on the hands but...doing nothing from keeping the trains from going camp-bound).
I detest population control programs. Agents like the Kleinster that fight for the "right to have no right" are fraudsters and a big part of the problem.
"The mortality rate statistics mark an undeniable improvement in the health of the world, but they do not easily identify capitalism as the cause or catalyst." -- Gabrielle Rapagnetta
3:45: the truth is YES, CONSPIRACIES DOMINATE the Iraq & 9/11 situations so the few would clean up $ and concentrate their pwr. Anyone who denies this is either a liar-shill for the powrful, an ignoramus or schmuck.
The mortality rate statistics mark an undeniable albeit unprecise improvement in the health of the world, but they do not easily identify capitalism as the cause or catalyst.
how does anybody justigy hiring naomi klein? she is a damm fool. i would wonder how much she makes by writing for nation. i would guess it will be more than average news writer gets
naomi klein bellieves in anti capitalism. what i mean is that she should divide her profits earned by her book and the salary that she earns form writing for nation. she should divide her salary to people who dont have jobs. i bet you she will reject that idea
Well, what Naomi Klein appears to advocate is not necessarily socialism but a kind of philanthropic, or, at least, semi-philanthropic, form of Keynesianism, which would involve the raising of money for the development of public works via the means of progressive, rather than regressive, taxation. So, providing that Naomi's earnings position her into one of the higher tax brackets, which they probably do, then the increased distribution of her income is exactly what she is advocating.
but america is the most philanthropic country in the world. nobody gives more money resources and manpower when there is any clamity in any part of the world. and by the way we do have a progressive tax system
Well, I, personally, think that your first statement is absurd and to a ridiculous extent, especially when you consider the fact that third world debt was not an accident but a deliberate creation; a creation of the U.S. government and its proxies -- the IMF and World Bank.
Secondly, it is true to say that there is a kind of progressive taxation already in place in the U.S., at least amongst those of low and middle incomes -- though, thanks to your last President, not amongst the corporations.
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What a dizzy bitch. Did you catch how she thinks "so many people believe Bush was behind 911?" Get real. There's about 3 people in the world who actually believe that... and they are only believing that because they are tired of believing there was no holocost. She's ready to debate economists? Yeah right. She's a freakin' financial illerate. Study her further, if you have some time to waste.
I guess i am one of the 3 then.....yeah, getting Henry Kissinger to head the 911 commision and the unwillingness of the White House to testify on record wasn't suspicious. Or WTC 7, And no, I suppose rich people get rich and stayed rich by hard work, not exploitation. Capitalism like all large forms of social control, once co-opted by the powerful, serves their interests well. Always has, always will.
I actually agree with almost everything you just stated. Kissinger is part of the problem. The White House is also not above reproach. And filthy rich people got rich and stay rich definitely due to the exploitation of the poor. Read history. Pure capitalism, in its free market design, has nothing in common with large forms of social control. Socialism and eliteism are perfect tools for social control and we are experiencing this transformation right now.
What has your comment got to do with what I was talking about? I believe that 911, the sinking of the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, etc. are all of the same design and plan.
The Original Conservation Pledge of the United States of American written in 1946. A pledge that the President of the US used to have to take before the nation upon becoming leader.
"I give my pledge as an American to save and faithfully to defend from waste the natural resources of my country - its soil and minerals, its forest, waters and wildlife."
Its kind of funny. I have for a long time been a fan of Klein's thinking and activism. Now I find I am starting to search out videos of Naomi Klein because I think she is really hot! Naomi you are downright SEXY, and sooo intelligent of course.
It seems to easy to just say that (from her perspective) extreme right, extreme free market capitalists have their ideas laying around, ready for any crisis and that is why they get passed then.
There are plenty left side think-thanks, public figures etc who certainly have a view over society too, plans and ideas too.
But the right wing gets theirs passed and (according to her), the left wing doesn't.
Doesn't that simply prove that those right wing ideas are simply more fit for the situation?
No, it means that they [the right] have friends in the right places and they can bully more effectively. Force and coercion usually win, but this doesn't mean they're in the right.
Money speaks for money, the devil for his own
Who's going to speak for the skin and the bone
The money people control the govt. The govt controls the army. The army is ordered to help all the money people.
It doesn't matter what group of morons are in power, the politicians who get elected reward their big corporate donors. Its that simple. Look how similar reps and dems are when it comes down to it. Forget the rhetoric. Foreign policy roughly the same. Domestic policies: Obama will be slightly more social-democratic but not enough to make waves. Obama won't stop subsidising big business to the hilt, any time either side talk about climate change its lets throw money at the wind turbine companies
I really wonder for which corporate interest group they pushed acts like sox.
But i won't deny that corporate interests have strong ties with many members of congress and in fact with many politicians in general.
But there are many other interest groups out there too that have less to do with big corporations. (mainly unions, human rights groups, gay righs groups, womens rights groups, heck all the groups that organise particular types of people and i have no doubt they have means (money) too)
She is simply quoting Milton Friedman: "Only a crisis--actual or perceived--produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around." It is not only having ideas "lying around"--it is consciously using a crisis to *implement* those ideas.
After all, it is only the forword of one of his books.
And a keen observation.
It's simply a fact that people will resort to other ideas that are laying around in a crisis. A crisis proves the ideas being followed up to then to be failing, so naturally people will look for better alternatives.
And it's obvious that you can't resort to an idea that you don't know. (that isn't laying around to be discovered)
You have elided the causal connection. As she explains here, and at length in the book, those radical free market ideas have no chance under democratic conditions. So it is necessary to replace, weaken, or disorient people, or opportunistically to take advantage of a crisis, to push actual policies through. In that sense "malignant plot" (which is not Klein's formulation) is appropriate.
Radical socialist ideas have no chance either to get through in fast speed under normal circumstances.
They only happen gradually, just like most free market advances happen gradually (just browsing through countries on freetheworld(dotcom) shows that many make a gradual advance in small steps)
For some reason, she wants to make of Friedman (and other free market defenders, but especially Friedman) evil people who want these crisis and shape them.
Friedman was not an evil person. But in order for his dream of pure capitalism to be realized it has cost great suffering where it was implemented. And the outcry is the fact that this suffering has been swept under the rug of history, which means that it can happen again, and again. Forget. The concern is that a new model of economy is gaining popularity, but it is ruthless, without concern for the interests/life quality of people. But, I guess they're the scum, the losers in this game. Life.
As you said, the whole area was ravaged by the hurricane, that includes schools.
Govt isn't able to fix that swiftly, but children still need education. By giving them school vouchers, people/communities can arrange schooling themselves and get the kids to return quicker to education.
So yes, this makes perfect sense.
Govt can't help those people immediately, so govt gives those people the chance to undertake those things themselves already
911 was Engineered By Americans to assure the American empire "NEW American Century".An America prominent Elected Official & Neocons Said that a catastrophic catalyzing Event-like "Perl Harbor" is needed to give us the golden opportunity to Impose a"Full Spectrum Dominance on the world"
This catastrophic catalyzing Event is 911the "New Perl Harbor".
If That Is Not the Case,Y Iraq being Invaded4?
+ Bush Said{his god told him To Invade Iraq},...IS THIS A SECULAR WAR?
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There seems to be a pattern of illogical generalizations in Klein's writing. She often mixes correlation with causation and she often makes spurious associations between US foreign policy and global corporate activity, ie suggesting that there is some kind of sinister relationship between the to. Ironically she claims not to be a conspiracy theorist.
Maybe because the US politicians decide what 2 do with their vast military power, and they are financed 2 be elected by the capitalists. The capitalists put their funding towards politicians who will govern in their interests. Otherwise, why would the capitalists make big donations 2 American politicians?
I would call that "some kind of sinister relationship between the two" loud and clear.
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L.O.L. Klein has no idea what she is talking about. ppl should read Rebel Sell, Heath and Potter show Klein to be a hypocritical bimbo. She does a brilliant job of criticizing the status quo but is at odds to provide a better solution. If corporations don't provide the services who will, FEMA? We have already seen how brilliantly that schema worked out in New Orleans.
Naomi Klein is the ideal woman for an economics nerd like me she is beautiful and intelligent...she is incredible. I'd love to work with her at some point as I pursue a career in Economics...
Excellent work, but I wonder if Naomi has read anything from Peter Dale Scott. She seemed to kind in regards to not believing in conspiracy theorys, though her theory is of one also.
Kill the inflation, search for Ron Paul and the monetary system, also search for Defenders of Liberty. Internet is bringin us the tools to change the world! Spread the knowledge, who needs inflation?
Religions always tie themselves to most reactionary and backwards elites in the establishments and with indoctrinations and brainwashing of the masses carefully shape the opinions of their followers into conformity and obedience to the ruling class. We don't here once from any established religious orders about the ills of globalizations, which are detrimental to the vast majority of world populations, religions have nothing to offer for the ills of human society.
Silent Depression The Fate of the American Dream, Peterson, economist and author of Transfer Spending, Taxes, and the American Welfare State, posits that America has been in the bitter grasp of an unrelenting, silent "depression" since 1973. This economic metamorphosis, a "serious and long-lasting deterioration in the basic economic fortunes for large numbers of American families," triggered pronounced increases in poverty and deindustrialization and a sustained erosion of the American dream.
Issues such as sweatshops in the Latin America and Asia, culture jamming, corporate censorship, are rarely discussed and corporations don't show any concerns for the dreadful and inhuman treatments of indigenous workforce, working in filthy and unhealthy sweatshops with little facilities, in the hands of their local representatives, franchises and ruthless subcontractors.
Globalization which replaced Keynesian economic theory was based upon Chicago doctrine implemented during the Pinochet dictatorship and began in 1973. In the case of Pinochet, he was universally credited with the Miracle of Chile, the wildly successful experiment in free markets, privatization, de-regulation and union-free economic expansion whose laissez-faire seeds spread from Valparaiso to Virginia.
Globalization is based on greed and domination, and it has tremendous effect upon social relationships, increasing in poverty, environmental destruction, reducing democratic control over the economy. Globalization is shorthand for our evolution into a single borderless economy, with free flows of money and goods, under the dominance of several hundred giant corporations.
Globalization doesn't pay any attention to the deeds and misdeeds of Nike, The Gap, McDonalds, Shell, and Microsoft and their lawyers, contractors, and advertising agencies and the way these conglomerates operate in the host countries.
"Rebels without a Club" - that's how I describe the anti-globalization crowd.
Globalization is the greatest force for world equality, prosperity and peace. I'll gladly defend this statement at length elsewhere, but, for this forum I simply point out, as "ikercapi" did, that the anti-globalization crowd never offers solutions. All's they ever do is complain about things they don't really understand. The proof of this lack of understanding is their failure to offer solutions.
TommyD1of11 I am sorry to say that you demonstrate very little knowledge on Globalization. Globalization goes far beyond trades of goods which you simply referred to it stared "at time of Marco Polo".
Globalization has brought nothing except misery and economic mismanagement to the poor people specially people of the third world, look at Latin American countries, Argentina economy almost collapsed few years go because IMF and World Bank interference , ever since they have kicked out IMF , it has been flourishing at growth rate of around 10%.
Most ppl aren't as smart as Naomi, so they're going to be poor because they're too dumb to be anything else. Most of them consider this a good and will get mad at you if you try to rescue them from it. Naom is like the smart pigs of, "Animal Farm". She may live to see a rejection of oppression, but other oppressors will take their place because the animals are just too happy to be ruled this way. They hold the door wide open and let it in with big dumb grins on their faces.
It is a job of the socialists, intellectuals, working class, and people from every level of society who are a critique of class society and committed to egalitarianism to enlighten the people and expose its destructive power, to the people at forefront of this brutal system
You can enlighten ppl, to an extent, if you get them away from their peer group and away from ppl skilled at appealing to their emotions. But you can spend 10 years with the average bear and it only takes 5 minutes for someone to snap them right back into line with an emotional argument. That's why when politicians "debate" it's a contest to see who can most expertly push emotional buttons, not who has the best argument.
Ok lets pause for a moment and ask , are we going to accept the status quo, surely humanity has reached that level of intellect to come up with a better economic system, than this brutal system of exploitations, and corporate greed .
If ppl have the liberty, they will change things themselves. There are more home/unschoolers every year (in America). The future will happen because of the first unschooled generation. No amount of "activism" can make a dent in a schooled generation.
We must not underestimate the power of masses and fall into the trap of reactionaries who deceptively try to divert the argument from their act of transgressions, inhuman conducts and exploitations by blaming the population as uneducated, that is the way it is, this is the human nature and if they are poor it is their fault.
It depends on what you mean by, "poor" and what you mean by, "fault". For instance, I don't believe in scarcity, and any poverty is the result of one person somehow oppressing another, charging too much for land, or whatever. It's not anyone's fault that someone else oppresses them; on the other hand very often people allow themselves to be oppressed, especially if it's fashionable and the ppl are relatively well fed and entertained.
I strongly advice you to read Revolution, flashmobs, and brain chips. A grim vision of the future by Richard Norton-Taylor in The Guardian, Monday April 9 2007 this assessment of future doesn't come from a leftwing thinktank it is from MOD,(Ministry of Defense in UK) that "The middle classes could become a revolutionary class, taking the role envisaged for the proletariat by Marx," says the report
But the history proves opposite and when people feel they had enough with the corrupt system of governments they rise up against the reactionary forces like what poor and underclass masses did at the time of The French Revolution by Storming of the Bastille and removed the absolute monarchy and kicked out the aristocracy and their Catholic clergy supporters and rooted out the feudal system and its privileges.
It's bound to be more complicated than that. Who were the poor in France at that time? Those who would be middle and upper middle class in a free democracy? And the former absolute rulers? They are now the poor, the thugs (who are sometimes rich) - and the ones who came to power in Germany in the 30's; the brown shirts, the trashy folk. Also, I don't know a thing about the F.R. except that at the trial of Antoine Lavoisier a judge said, "the revolution does not need savants".
Even the democracies are under a threat and with rise of China the loss of manufacturing jobs in industrialized countries in particular USA, increasing in poverty level and lack spending in education, the infrastructure and the emergence of ever greater economic inequalities are perceptive to make people to demand a fairer share of the wealth.
I don't think you have even read one page of her book. What a nonsense, where you got the statistic that that globalization is 4000 year old, read a few books about capitalism and transnational corporations before come up with such garbage. Read about Chicago doctrine which was implemented in Chile during the Pinochet dictatorship that was the start of globalization.
Globalization which replaced Keynesian economic theory was based upon Chicago doctrine implemented during the Pinochet dictatorship and began in 1973. In the case of Pinochet, he was universally credited with the Miracle of Chile, the wildly successful experiment in free markets, privatization, de-regulation and union-free economic expansion whose laissez-faire seeds spread from Valparaiso to Virginia.
Secondly tell this rubbish that the "anti-globalization have no solution to today's bigger problems" to more that 300 million Indian cotton farmers who have lost their livelihood because of globalization.
"Secondly tell this rubbish that the "anti-globalization have no solution to today's bigger problems" to more that 300 million Indian cotton farmers who have lost their livelihood because of globalization."
Ah, I hate to point out the obvious, but, ArashIrani, you just failed the test and proved Ikercapi's point that anti-Globalization people offer only critiques and no solutions.
In 1973, the year General Pinochet brutally seized the government, Chile's unemployment rate was 4.3%. In 1983, after ten years of free-market modernization, unemployment reached 22%. Real wages declined by 40% under military rule
The globalization has brought misery and social deprivation to the vast majority of the world population, according to the recent study by UN, 42% of the wealth of the world is in hand around 1% of world population i.e. 60 Million people, on the other hand half the world population i.e. 3 billion live with less than a dollar a day.
just because your against globalization doesn't mean your against globalization it means your against the horrible version that is being pushed on use without the people have any say or power to shape it.
It's investment globalization that is harmful. The globalization of people, meaning the ability to travel across and maintain just wages across boarders, is great. Globalization is only just when everyday citizens are respected before businesses.
The use of semi-esoteric (antiquated) terms is more or less intellectual masturbation. It seems you could relay the same concept without using words like unfettered, macabre, or clandestine. This would prove more comprehensible and less elitist; although the layperson can keep pace with either style.
Oh, feel free to give this comment poor consideration: thumbs down please, hold the resentment.
Words mean very little taken out of context; your example proves to validate this point. What I wrote was more of a clarification than a concrete definition.
I only asked one question, you must be mistaking me for the person you were repklying to.
I actually do not know what the subject the debate was and I was not commenting on that.
But having an intimate knowledge of the hellinic language (greek),both ancient and modern,was surprised to learn for the first time the meanning of esoteric,semi or otherwise!
"Bush KNEW about 911 before it happened AT THE LEAST!"
Oh definatly. 911 was an inside job. Bin Laden is not wanted for 9/11 by the FBI. And by the way, Naomi is a conpiracy theorist if she believes the offical conspiracy theory of 9/11.
The globalization has brought misery and social deprivation to the vast majority of the world population, according to the recent study by UN, 42% of the wealth of the world is in hand around 1% of world population i.e. 60 Million people, on the other hand half the world population i.e. 3 billion live with less than a dollar a day.
This system cannot continue for ever, the corporations drive for greed and excessive profit is decimating forests, plundering natural resources, consequently, has plunged the world into more and more natural disasters, pollutions which has had profound effect on living environment.
The tendency of gov't is to move toward tyranny by slow operations.
The corporate globalists are USING and fueling the "culture war" between globalist LEFT and globalist RIGHT as a divide and conquer technique. Don't fall for it. The only battle that matters is between totalitarian predatory globalists and those who wish to preserve safeguards against the natural tendency of gov't. These safeguards, like the sovereignty of the bill of rights, WILL NEVER be "outdated."
I would love to see her have a discussion with Ron Paul. Like RP I believe in a libertarian free market, while public servants should be seen as SLAVES to democratic processes and should face merciless & swift retribution for crossing the line into corporate special interest fascism, even if they just put a pinky toe over that line. There should NEVER be a gov't that can force its ppl into a war 70% oppose.
My take on Naomi is that she speaks about the same thing (stopping authoritarian corporatist globalism) in MANY different vernaculars, always taking her audience into account when she speaks. I have heard her vehemently defend companies' legitimate ROLE and RIGHT to seek profits however they can while she vilified the public officials who got into bed with corporations. Because I see where she's coming from she can be loose with her language and I still follow her intent.
The CCCE and CFR totalitarian global corporatists claim to be non-partisan, and that's fine, because there are 1000 different philosophies and factions working in unison right now to obliterate them...which is a beautiful thing to watch. Karma's a bitch.
Klein and Lewis are wiggling to become part of the Canadian establishment -- how conservative is that! God, they do it for their own privileged glory. So much for the little man who can't jet set across the Atlantic to be on David Frost. Oh well, he can always buy their Chardonnay socialist brand and be funky, in absentia.
Naomi Klein is right on. Capitalism is all about exploitation and this new wave of capitalism, which is an extension of Neoliberalism, is all about exploiting these types of disaster situations for profit. This is the plan of the Bush administration and republicans.
She's biting the invisible hand of capitalism who feeds her plenty... it's called hypocrisy. She's no different from the rich socialist Michael Moore who also paints a black picture. Notice how she skipped the question of capitalism's virtues only to point to post war economies -- which were influenced by Soviet Russia and ultimately didn't work.
so anyone with money is a hypocrit? Come on read the writing beyond the network news, and don't simply attack the messenger, regardless of their fianacial status. Can't you see corp America feeding off disaster? when it used to be a responsibility embraced by the govt? She simply has the integrity to argue AGAINST her own financial interest. Think about it...integrity...hmmm...used to exist.
Arguing against capitalism is in her financial interest, just like Moore who pulls down $28,000 for a 2 hour talk to students about the evils of Capitalism. Moore, Chomsky, Cornel West and Klein are not in the sugar fields of Cuba cultivating their ideology... they're in the sugar fields of financial investments and stock portfolios. In fact, Moore actually has stock in Haliburton. Check it out.
There's an explanation for this. Look at marx, look at engels (who came from a family of capitalists). One of the ultimate goals of communism and socialism is to grant everyone the right to an education that the elite so easily gets, an education that allows those who are well off to write books and leave their mark in history. There is no hypocrisy in this, the average person who works 40-80 hours a week has no time to study theory and fully develop their interests and live a full human life.
The average person doesn't work those hours unless they want to. There is plenty of opportunity for education and enterprise. If it wasn't so, then people would not want to immigrate to the US. They certainly didn't want to immigrate to Soviet Russia to stand in food lines.
as for moore, all I can say is he supports the democratic party, which confirms he is not a socialist. Pointing at well off socialists and saying they are hypocrites only shows how little you actually understand socialism, by either assuming socialism aims for a poor society or assuming that a socialist cannot utilize the tools given to them to advance socialism. If a socialist were to exploit other workers by hiring wage earners then yes I would say that socialist is a hypocrite.
The Democratic party has been taken over by the far left. Moore does exploit his workers (there is no union) and the masses by his attempts at deception. His film on Fahrenheit 9/11 was blatant propaganda and should have never been accepted as a documentary. Check out the harsh criticism it deserves from even people on the left like Christopher Hitchens. Leni Riefenstahl would be proud!
And now that you`ve heard it youre going to harden your position even more because it`s embarrasing to have been had and get caught supporting those that you`ve been had by thus perpetuating your own miserble status. Your type is the most predictible.
T. was interesting but saw evil everywhere. J. not as interesting and doesn't tell the whole truth. I don't believe in the government or capitalism being evil. Certainly they're not perfect and can always improve. Sinister intent & conspiracy is generally the viewpoint of the left who are not in power. It's a grievance laden, romantic POV that sees people as victims without personal choice. We can choose and have responsibilities for our choices and this more than anything can eradicate evil.
Stop blaming Capitalism Naomi, it's not the fault of a brilliant economic system. National defense and schools are not ready for privatization, and defense for that matter may never be, but I wish she would stop saying capitalism. Bush and Rumsfield aren't proponents of capitalism, that's just the coverup. They are downright fascists.
What she is doing is saying that corporations are irresponsible because they only look at profit and numbers, and they don't care about anything else unless it can make them money. But it's an even deeper problem that that. Humans are out of balance with the ecosystem and nature basically. To sum it up.
i don't believe she was saying friedman was keynesian. she classifies herself as keynesian and criticizes the chicago school. she does not equate the two
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This woman, Klein, is clueless. She makes reference to Keynesianism at the end of the video--the University of Chicago School, ala Milton Friedman, was patently not Keynesian; it was supply-sided. It's sad that she passes in the mainstream as an "intellectual".
nice video.. keep it up thanks for sharing ..
myrnalopez545 2 months ago
Thank you for the awesome video upload!
marygibson123481 3 months ago
No Logo was a great read. Especially liked the American school kids making a stand when they realised their uniforms had possibly come from sweat shops. Heh ha.
As for the video, David Frost is quite probably THE worst interviewer in the history of television, and he got progressively worse with age. Dull dude is dull.
UnitedKingdomify 6 months ago
Conservatives didn't cause the Katrina disaster, but, they did allow a massive oil-tanker canal to remain open, thereby letting the ocean into the city further than it should have been... also, the swamps that would have dampened the hurricane were destroyed by free market practices, so there is a loose connection between social Darwinism & that particular disaster. Regarding 9/11, not enough was done to prevent the attacks. Bush was on holiday & trivialised warnings; didn't cause it though!
tobynsaunders 10 months ago
She is an incredibly intelligent and independent thinker not to mention a charming one in the good sense of the word..
sgpquek 1 year ago 4
Memo to David Frost. Please talk to Steve Keen.
whereismybailouttv 1 year ago
What do you mean "the Anti-globalization movement doesn't go in for hero worship?" I guess one of your genius al Jizmeera researchers told you that? They cream their jeans at the mention of Klein, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, and Iran's Ahmadinutcase to name a few.
klein is an intellectually vacant whore who is capitalizing off suckers stupid enough to but her badly written conspiracy-theory crud.
TheJuniorRodriguez 1 year ago
@TheJuniorRodriguez While she does write about conspiracies, she provides everything from quotes to articles to transcripts, in the book. There's nothing theoretical about the books content.
Redcarpet01 1 year ago
Anti-brand-brand: Marketing genius. An anti-globalism global bestseller?
JohnColt 1 year ago
by disaster, she means her father-in-law or his father had actually been elected in Canada.
andrelebaron 1 year ago
So intent so thick in this bloody horrible plot is so very important isn't it? Either it's being prepared for the worst case unforseeable unintended consequence with radical human killing policies. Or, it's being forced up the population on purpose. I happen to believe the ladder. If you can't admit that people are sometimes vicious and do really absurd, crazy, and violent things to one another, you aren't living on the same planet as me. All of it adds up!
AmpSanders 1 year ago
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She is just giving US ALL another reason to step onto the trains.
That is all that she is doing!
The same result but with a different tone (strapping the bad boys on the hands but...doing nothing from keeping the trains from going camp-bound).
I detest population control programs. Agents like the Kleinster that fight for the "right to have no right" are fraudsters and a big part of the problem.
WPGSTOPBILLC51 1 year ago
"The mortality rate statistics mark an undeniable improvement in the health of the world, but they do not easily identify capitalism as the cause or catalyst." -- Gabrielle Rapagnetta
gunthaarz 2 years ago
3:45: the truth is YES, CONSPIRACIES DOMINATE the Iraq & 9/11 situations so the few would clean up $ and concentrate their pwr. Anyone who denies this is either a liar-shill for the powrful, an ignoramus or schmuck.
287654321 2 years ago
She's a beautiful woman even if I don't necessarily agree with her views.
mullaahmed 2 years ago
Klein is a Marxist hack.
VanDoodah 2 years ago
The mortality rate statistics mark an undeniable albeit unprecise improvement in the health of the world, but they do not easily identify capitalism as the cause or catalyst.
gunthaarz 2 years ago
how does anybody justigy hiring naomi klein? she is a damm fool. i would wonder how much she makes by writing for nation. i would guess it will be more than average news writer gets
maharajakal 2 years ago
Maybe The Nation should hire you instead; you're obviously a great writer, and a brilliant speller.
TheGrubStreetHack 2 years ago
naomi klein bellieves in anti capitalism. what i mean is that she should divide her profits earned by her book and the salary that she earns form writing for nation. she should divide her salary to people who dont have jobs. i bet you she will reject that idea
maharajakal 2 years ago
Well, what Naomi Klein appears to advocate is not necessarily socialism but a kind of philanthropic, or, at least, semi-philanthropic, form of Keynesianism, which would involve the raising of money for the development of public works via the means of progressive, rather than regressive, taxation. So, providing that Naomi's earnings position her into one of the higher tax brackets, which they probably do, then the increased distribution of her income is exactly what she is advocating.
TheGrubStreetHack 2 years ago
but america is the most philanthropic country in the world. nobody gives more money resources and manpower when there is any clamity in any part of the world. and by the way we do have a progressive tax system
maharajakal 2 years ago
Well, I, personally, think that your first statement is absurd and to a ridiculous extent, especially when you consider the fact that third world debt was not an accident but a deliberate creation; a creation of the U.S. government and its proxies -- the IMF and World Bank.
Secondly, it is true to say that there is a kind of progressive taxation already in place in the U.S., at least amongst those of low and middle incomes -- though, thanks to your last President, not amongst the corporations.
TheGrubStreetHack 2 years ago
there is hope for you. i will have you in my prayers.
maharajakal 2 years ago
Trust me when I say that I am the last person that I -- never mind you -- would want to be in your prayers.
TheGrubStreetHack 2 years ago
Naomi Klein is a fool.
drmygel 2 years ago
"waged out of Chicago"
Obama territory
Little has changed.
Meet the new boss [Obama] manipulated by the same control freaks [international corporations, bankers, energy companies etc] as the old boss.
smujismuj 2 years ago
Leo got his ideas from Plato. She is correct about
the corrosive plans which emanate from that source. It is an agenda that has failed thousands of times and left untold misery for ordinary people
in its wake. It isn't really about capitalism or
business it is about being mystical overlords who
desire ant-like behaviors from other men.
tyrbolo 2 years ago
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What a dizzy bitch. Did you catch how she thinks "so many people believe Bush was behind 911?" Get real. There's about 3 people in the world who actually believe that... and they are only believing that because they are tired of believing there was no holocost. She's ready to debate economists? Yeah right. She's a freakin' financial illerate. Study her further, if you have some time to waste.
BourneAccident 2 years ago
I guess i am one of the 3 then.....yeah, getting Henry Kissinger to head the 911 commision and the unwillingness of the White House to testify on record wasn't suspicious. Or WTC 7, And no, I suppose rich people get rich and stayed rich by hard work, not exploitation. Capitalism like all large forms of social control, once co-opted by the powerful, serves their interests well. Always has, always will.
FRETLESSDOG1 2 years ago
I misspoke, Kissinger turned down the whitewashing job. But the point stands,
FRETLESSDOG1 2 years ago
I actually agree with almost everything you just stated. Kissinger is part of the problem. The White House is also not above reproach. And filthy rich people got rich and stay rich definitely due to the exploitation of the poor. Read history. Pure capitalism, in its free market design, has nothing in common with large forms of social control. Socialism and eliteism are perfect tools for social control and we are experiencing this transformation right now.
BourneAccident 2 years ago
BourneAccident,
Wishing there wasn't millions of people who doubt the 'official' account of 9/11 doesn't make it true.
There have been several polls that these doubters exist.
Polls in N.Y. city for instance show as much as half the population believe that the official story is inadequate at best.
smujismuj 2 years ago
What has your comment got to do with what I was talking about? I believe that 911, the sinking of the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, etc. are all of the same design and plan.
BourneAccident 2 years ago
people should form co-ops and distribute capital to society.
sh0rt4 3 years ago 6
@sh0rt4 The Government would tax any such idea harshly as soon as it caught on. Or they would license it and only their friends would have licenses.
RobertHartlepool 1 year ago
"Slick superficiality sells." Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
She's laughing all the way to the bank.
tallmunchkin 3 years ago
She's just dumb. Her understanding of economics is pathetic.
B7Scorpio 3 years ago
"She's just dumb"? Who are you??
theErinnyess 3 years ago
I'd hit that.
perkele0079 3 years ago
The Original Conservation Pledge of the United States of American written in 1946. A pledge that the President of the US used to have to take before the nation upon becoming leader.
"I give my pledge as an American to save and faithfully to defend from waste the natural resources of my country - its soil and minerals, its forest, waters and wildlife."
utubelurkr 3 years ago
Its kind of funny. I have for a long time been a fan of Klein's thinking and activism. Now I find I am starting to search out videos of Naomi Klein because I think she is really hot! Naomi you are downright SEXY, and sooo intelligent of course.
human3485bil 3 years ago
I love her. She is rational and uses her logic. She posess great power, which is good knowledge.
ruanrushedin 3 years ago
Zionists DID CREATE all wars, look your history.
The Protocols of Zion is the DOMINANT force behind the last 2-3 hundreds years of history.
Would truth kill you ? Or are you just a chiken feeder ?
911allo 3 years ago
It seems to easy to just say that (from her perspective) extreme right, extreme free market capitalists have their ideas laying around, ready for any crisis and that is why they get passed then.
There are plenty left side think-thanks, public figures etc who certainly have a view over society too, plans and ideas too.
But the right wing gets theirs passed and (according to her), the left wing doesn't.
Doesn't that simply prove that those right wing ideas are simply more fit for the situation?
Shorackoff 3 years ago
No, it means that they [the right] have friends in the right places and they can bully more effectively. Force and coercion usually win, but this doesn't mean they're in the right.
Money speaks for money, the devil for his own
Who's going to speak for the skin and the bone
The money people control the govt. The govt controls the army. The army is ordered to help all the money people.
left888 3 years ago
Sorry, but i tend to find that bull.
Congress atm has a majority of democrats.
Dominance has switched regulary between the democrats and the republicans through history.
Left and right are quite a match for each others power.
And it's not like the democrats are without the slick of the earth. ;)
Shorackoff 3 years ago
It doesn't matter what group of morons are in power, the politicians who get elected reward their big corporate donors. Its that simple. Look how similar reps and dems are when it comes down to it. Forget the rhetoric. Foreign policy roughly the same. Domestic policies: Obama will be slightly more social-democratic but not enough to make waves. Obama won't stop subsidising big business to the hilt, any time either side talk about climate change its lets throw money at the wind turbine companies
left888 3 years ago
I really wonder for which corporate interest group they pushed acts like sox.
But i won't deny that corporate interests have strong ties with many members of congress and in fact with many politicians in general.
But there are many other interest groups out there too that have less to do with big corporations. (mainly unions, human rights groups, gay righs groups, womens rights groups, heck all the groups that organise particular types of people and i have no doubt they have means (money) too)
Shorackoff 3 years ago
She is simply quoting Milton Friedman: "Only a crisis--actual or perceived--produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around." It is not only having ideas "lying around"--it is consciously using a crisis to *implement* those ideas.
ggeboski 3 years ago
Well, she makes far more from it then it means.
After all, it is only the forword of one of his books.
And a keen observation.
It's simply a fact that people will resort to other ideas that are laying around in a crisis. A crisis proves the ideas being followed up to then to be failing, so naturally people will look for better alternatives.
And it's obvious that you can't resort to an idea that you don't know. (that isn't laying around to be discovered)
An observation, not a malignent plot
Shorackoff 3 years ago
You have elided the causal connection. As she explains here, and at length in the book, those radical free market ideas have no chance under democratic conditions. So it is necessary to replace, weaken, or disorient people, or opportunistically to take advantage of a crisis, to push actual policies through. In that sense "malignant plot" (which is not Klein's formulation) is appropriate.
ggeboski 3 years ago
Casual connection between what?
Radical socialist ideas have no chance either to get through in fast speed under normal circumstances.
They only happen gradually, just like most free market advances happen gradually (just browsing through countries on freetheworld(dotcom) shows that many make a gradual advance in small steps)
For some reason, she wants to make of Friedman (and other free market defenders, but especially Friedman) evil people who want these crisis and shape them.
Shorackoff 3 years ago
Friedman was not an evil person. But in order for his dream of pure capitalism to be realized it has cost great suffering where it was implemented. And the outcry is the fact that this suffering has been swept under the rug of history, which means that it can happen again, and again. Forget. The concern is that a new model of economy is gaining popularity, but it is ruthless, without concern for the interests/life quality of people. But, I guess they're the scum, the losers in this game. Life.
gorgorybmus 3 years ago
Rubbish! You are completely misinformed
BigDeanoSyd 3 years ago
shorackoff- "a crisis proves the ideas being followed up to then to be failing" how does a hurricane prove that an education system is "failing"?
mishapenheid 3 years ago
It lacked the flexibility to adapt to a quickly changing context. (which often proves a weak spot in government activities)
And it proved this weakness in the way it got funded, i contend it doesn't prove that the content of the education wat bad.
Shorackoff 3 years ago
I'm sorry, the Privatization Shill Hotline is busy, please try again later...
clarkgwillison 3 years ago 2
So when a hurricane wipes out a relatively large area of the US, a better alternative is to privatize the schools in that area.
I get it... because the public schooling caused the hurricane.
That's makes perfect sense...
When the ideas makes sense it's useful...when the ideas are used to exploit a situation for profit, or unnecessary subordination....maybe not so much.
alexudell 3 years ago
You fail to see the motivation behind the idea.
As you said, the whole area was ravaged by the hurricane, that includes schools.
Govt isn't able to fix that swiftly, but children still need education. By giving them school vouchers, people/communities can arrange schooling themselves and get the kids to return quicker to education.
So yes, this makes perfect sense.
Govt can't help those people immediately, so govt gives those people the chance to undertake those things themselves already
Shorackoff 3 years ago
No I see the logic fine. Please excuse the hyperbole.
If it is a question of time then use the private sector as a transition while the schools are rebuilt.
Don't use it as an excuse to permanently dismantle the system...in a time of crisis when the locals obviously would have no say in that situation.
alexudell 3 years ago 2
911 was Engineered By Americans to assure the American empire "NEW American Century".An America prominent Elected Official & Neocons Said that a catastrophic catalyzing Event-like "Perl Harbor" is needed to give us the golden opportunity to Impose a"Full Spectrum Dominance on the world"
This catastrophic catalyzing Event is 911the "New Perl Harbor".
If That Is Not the Case,Y Iraq being Invaded4?
+ Bush Said{his god told him To Invade Iraq},...IS THIS A SECULAR WAR?
ammannojacku 3 years ago
She is a wonderful woman,I've read the book and really enjoyed. It makes for great reading!
aliveandkicking69 3 years ago 13
F U Frank!
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ellemenno3000 3 years ago
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she is just arguing hard concrete facts for the sake of boosting book sales..
If today i wrote a book about 1+1 =3, it will have the same effect
ric0211 3 years ago
Smart, sweet, and sexy. Perfect Naomi.
shiankiang 3 years ago
what an oooold man.
simonesimone2 3 years ago
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There seems to be a pattern of illogical generalizations in Klein's writing. She often mixes correlation with causation and she often makes spurious associations between US foreign policy and global corporate activity, ie suggesting that there is some kind of sinister relationship between the to. Ironically she claims not to be a conspiracy theorist.
triniidaddy 3 years ago
Maybe because the US politicians decide what 2 do with their vast military power, and they are financed 2 be elected by the capitalists. The capitalists put their funding towards politicians who will govern in their interests. Otherwise, why would the capitalists make big donations 2 American politicians?
I would call that "some kind of sinister relationship between the two" loud and clear.
left888 3 years ago
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L.O.L. Klein has no idea what she is talking about. ppl should read Rebel Sell, Heath and Potter show Klein to be a hypocritical bimbo. She does a brilliant job of criticizing the status quo but is at odds to provide a better solution. If corporations don't provide the services who will, FEMA? We have already seen how brilliantly that schema worked out in New Orleans.
statikcx 3 years ago
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completely agreed. Listening to klein talk is like listening to a chimp try to explain string theory.
cruzander 3 years ago
Naomi Klein is the ideal woman for an economics nerd like me she is beautiful and intelligent...she is incredible. I'd love to work with her at some point as I pursue a career in Economics...
Abreu51 4 years ago
Just rubbed one out to this video. Fine women indeed!
OriginalGuest 4 years ago
I only saw one fine woman in this clip. How many did you count?
felixfrombside 4 years ago
Typo.
OriginalGuest 4 years ago
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Naomi Klein is such a transparent hypocrite -- 'No Logo' was published by a multinational corporation. Surprise, surprise. What a filthy liar !
I hope she dies - a tomahawk missile into her mansion would be perfect !
AriesLudzik 4 years ago
Naomi Klein and I have had SEXUAL intercourse.
Steinman991 4 years ago
Excellent work, but I wonder if Naomi has read anything from Peter Dale Scott. She seemed to kind in regards to not believing in conspiracy theorys, though her theory is of one also.
steve287287 4 years ago
Very good work! Naomi Klein is young, strong, Canadian and very good at explaining her points of view! Thank you.
lipsi77 4 years ago 2
Kill the inflation, search for Ron Paul and the monetary system, also search for Defenders of Liberty. Internet is bringin us the tools to change the world! Spread the knowledge, who needs inflation?
realicee 4 years ago
All the tools are available for the elite to have created Hurricane Katrina. Look into weather modification techniques and the HAARP project
cybersphere 4 years ago
Religions always tie themselves to most reactionary and backwards elites in the establishments and with indoctrinations and brainwashing of the masses carefully shape the opinions of their followers into conformity and obedience to the ruling class. We don't here once from any established religious orders about the ills of globalizations, which are detrimental to the vast majority of world populations, religions have nothing to offer for the ills of human society.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
I love her hair. All of those highlights. Created all by petrochemical co's. Makes her so hot! Priceless!!!!
toritotuti 4 years ago 2
Are you try to be corny?
ArashIrani 4 years ago
Silent Depression The Fate of the American Dream, Peterson, economist and author of Transfer Spending, Taxes, and the American Welfare State, posits that America has been in the bitter grasp of an unrelenting, silent "depression" since 1973. This economic metamorphosis, a "serious and long-lasting deterioration in the basic economic fortunes for large numbers of American families," triggered pronounced increases in poverty and deindustrialization and a sustained erosion of the American dream.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
She evaded his second last question.
troycox1 4 years ago
Issues such as sweatshops in the Latin America and Asia, culture jamming, corporate censorship, are rarely discussed and corporations don't show any concerns for the dreadful and inhuman treatments of indigenous workforce, working in filthy and unhealthy sweatshops with little facilities, in the hands of their local representatives, franchises and ruthless subcontractors.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
Globalization which replaced Keynesian economic theory was based upon Chicago doctrine implemented during the Pinochet dictatorship and began in 1973. In the case of Pinochet, he was universally credited with the Miracle of Chile, the wildly successful experiment in free markets, privatization, de-regulation and union-free economic expansion whose laissez-faire seeds spread from Valparaiso to Virginia.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
Globalization is based on greed and domination, and it has tremendous effect upon social relationships, increasing in poverty, environmental destruction, reducing democratic control over the economy. Globalization is shorthand for our evolution into a single borderless economy, with free flows of money and goods, under the dominance of several hundred giant corporations.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
Globalization doesn't pay any attention to the deeds and misdeeds of Nike, The Gap, McDonalds, Shell, and Microsoft and their lawyers, contractors, and advertising agencies and the way these conglomerates operate in the host countries.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
"Rebels without a Club" - that's how I describe the anti-globalization crowd.
Globalization is the greatest force for world equality, prosperity and peace. I'll gladly defend this statement at length elsewhere, but, for this forum I simply point out, as "ikercapi" did, that the anti-globalization crowd never offers solutions. All's they ever do is complain about things they don't really understand. The proof of this lack of understanding is their failure to offer solutions.
TommyD1of11 4 years ago
TommyD1of11 I am sorry to say that you demonstrate very little knowledge on Globalization. Globalization goes far beyond trades of goods which you simply referred to it stared "at time of Marco Polo".
ArashIrani 4 years ago
since when does david frost work for aljazeera?????? what does aljazeera translate into english anyway?
stephendedlus 4 years ago
Globalization has brought nothing except misery and economic mismanagement to the poor people specially people of the third world, look at Latin American countries, Argentina economy almost collapsed few years go because IMF and World Bank interference , ever since they have kicked out IMF , it has been flourishing at growth rate of around 10%.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
Most ppl aren't as smart as Naomi, so they're going to be poor because they're too dumb to be anything else. Most of them consider this a good and will get mad at you if you try to rescue them from it. Naom is like the smart pigs of, "Animal Farm". She may live to see a rejection of oppression, but other oppressors will take their place because the animals are just too happy to be ruled this way. They hold the door wide open and let it in with big dumb grins on their faces.
prayfertrey 4 years ago
It is a job of the socialists, intellectuals, working class, and people from every level of society who are a critique of class society and committed to egalitarianism to enlighten the people and expose its destructive power, to the people at forefront of this brutal system
ArashIrani 4 years ago
You can enlighten ppl, to an extent, if you get them away from their peer group and away from ppl skilled at appealing to their emotions. But you can spend 10 years with the average bear and it only takes 5 minutes for someone to snap them right back into line with an emotional argument. That's why when politicians "debate" it's a contest to see who can most expertly push emotional buttons, not who has the best argument.
prayfertrey 4 years ago
Ok lets pause for a moment and ask , are we going to accept the status quo, surely humanity has reached that level of intellect to come up with a better economic system, than this brutal system of exploitations, and corporate greed .
ArashIrani 4 years ago
If ppl have the liberty, they will change things themselves. There are more home/unschoolers every year (in America). The future will happen because of the first unschooled generation. No amount of "activism" can make a dent in a schooled generation.
prayfertrey 4 years ago
We must not underestimate the power of masses and fall into the trap of reactionaries who deceptively try to divert the argument from their act of transgressions, inhuman conducts and exploitations by blaming the population as uneducated, that is the way it is, this is the human nature and if they are poor it is their fault.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
It depends on what you mean by, "poor" and what you mean by, "fault". For instance, I don't believe in scarcity, and any poverty is the result of one person somehow oppressing another, charging too much for land, or whatever. It's not anyone's fault that someone else oppresses them; on the other hand very often people allow themselves to be oppressed, especially if it's fashionable and the ppl are relatively well fed and entertained.
prayfertrey 4 years ago
I strongly advice you to read Revolution, flashmobs, and brain chips. A grim vision of the future by Richard Norton-Taylor in The Guardian, Monday April 9 2007 this assessment of future doesn't come from a leftwing thinktank it is from MOD,(Ministry of Defense in UK) that "The middle classes could become a revolutionary class, taking the role envisaged for the proletariat by Marx," says the report
ArashIrani 4 years ago
But the history proves opposite and when people feel they had enough with the corrupt system of governments they rise up against the reactionary forces like what poor and underclass masses did at the time of The French Revolution by Storming of the Bastille and removed the absolute monarchy and kicked out the aristocracy and their Catholic clergy supporters and rooted out the feudal system and its privileges.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
It's bound to be more complicated than that. Who were the poor in France at that time? Those who would be middle and upper middle class in a free democracy? And the former absolute rulers? They are now the poor, the thugs (who are sometimes rich) - and the ones who came to power in Germany in the 30's; the brown shirts, the trashy folk. Also, I don't know a thing about the F.R. except that at the trial of Antoine Lavoisier a judge said, "the revolution does not need savants".
prayfertrey 4 years ago
Even the democracies are under a threat and with rise of China the loss of manufacturing jobs in industrialized countries in particular USA, increasing in poverty level and lack spending in education, the infrastructure and the emergence of ever greater economic inequalities are perceptive to make people to demand a fairer share of the wealth.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
Why do you need "spending in education"?
prayfertrey 4 years ago
Why do u think?
ArashIrani 4 years ago
To fund lending libraries. Beyond that I don't know.
prayfertrey 4 years ago
globalization provide social justice and development.
globalization is 4000 years old.
the antiglobalization have no solution to todays biger problems.
ikercapi 4 years ago
I don't think you have even read one page of her book. What a nonsense, where you got the statistic that that globalization is 4000 year old, read a few books about capitalism and transnational corporations before come up with such garbage. Read about Chicago doctrine which was implemented in Chile during the Pinochet dictatorship that was the start of globalization.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
You ask "ikercapi" where he got the statistic that 'globalization is 4000 years old'
I'm not going to defend the 4,000 y/o date, though I believe it to be accurate, instead I'll just mention the following:
Marco Polo
Christopher Columbus
Triangular Trade
To name just a few. Are these old enough for you?
TommyD1of11 4 years ago
Globalization which replaced Keynesian economic theory was based upon Chicago doctrine implemented during the Pinochet dictatorship and began in 1973. In the case of Pinochet, he was universally credited with the Miracle of Chile, the wildly successful experiment in free markets, privatization, de-regulation and union-free economic expansion whose laissez-faire seeds spread from Valparaiso to Virginia.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
Secondly tell this rubbish that the "anti-globalization have no solution to today's bigger problems" to more that 300 million Indian cotton farmers who have lost their livelihood because of globalization.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
ArashIrani wrote:
"Secondly tell this rubbish that the "anti-globalization have no solution to today's bigger problems" to more that 300 million Indian cotton farmers who have lost their livelihood because of globalization."
Ah, I hate to point out the obvious, but, ArashIrani, you just failed the test and proved Ikercapi's point that anti-Globalization people offer only critiques and no solutions.
TommyD1of11 4 years ago
In 1973, the year General Pinochet brutally seized the government, Chile's unemployment rate was 4.3%. In 1983, after ten years of free-market modernization, unemployment reached 22%. Real wages declined by 40% under military rule
ArashIrani 4 years ago
The globalization has brought misery and social deprivation to the vast majority of the world population, according to the recent study by UN, 42% of the wealth of the world is in hand around 1% of world population i.e. 60 Million people, on the other hand half the world population i.e. 3 billion live with less than a dollar a day.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
just because your against globalization doesn't mean your against globalization it means your against the horrible version that is being pushed on use without the people have any say or power to shape it.
godscuttingyoudown 4 years ago
It's investment globalization that is harmful. The globalization of people, meaning the ability to travel across and maintain just wages across boarders, is great. Globalization is only just when everyday citizens are respected before businesses.
andersoncouncil65 4 years ago
She is right about so many things.
lfg210 4 years ago
Shes fit for an academic
VomitAllIdeals 4 years ago
man, it's such a waste to read your discussion... but, thumbs up for "freedom of speech"!
AllanZi 4 years ago
The use of semi-esoteric (antiquated) terms is more or less intellectual masturbation. It seems you could relay the same concept without using words like unfettered, macabre, or clandestine. This would prove more comprehensible and less elitist; although the layperson can keep pace with either style.
Oh, feel free to give this comment poor consideration: thumbs down please, hold the resentment.
niceandeasygeorge01 4 years ago
semi-esoteric means antiquated?
tomliordos 4 years ago
Words mean very little taken out of context; your example proves to validate this point. What I wrote was more of a clarification than a concrete definition.
niceandeasygeorge01 4 years ago
what example?
I only asked one question, you must be mistaking me for the person you were repklying to.
I actually do not know what the subject the debate was and I was not commenting on that.
But having an intimate knowledge of the hellinic language (greek),both ancient and modern,was surprised to learn for the first time the meanning of esoteric,semi or otherwise!
tomliordos 4 years ago
I find this woman's intelligence incredibly attractive...read "the shock doctrine" y'all....thought provoking material
sharmark 4 years ago
"Bush KNEW about 911 before it happened AT THE LEAST!"
Oh definatly. 911 was an inside job. Bin Laden is not wanted for 9/11 by the FBI. And by the way, Naomi is a conpiracy theorist if she believes the offical conspiracy theory of 9/11.
seraph101 4 years ago
It's pretty much known at this point.
The official government story is absolutely ridiculous:
Hijackers with box-cutters bypassed the entire American Air Defense system. Using 2 planes they pulverized 3 buildings into dust.
The Bush administration fought the investigation for a year and half before proceeding, terribly underfunded.
Pure rubbish.
GhostyBoy13 4 years ago
I like the phrase "Fundamentalist capitalism."
albinofreak620 4 years ago
ooh.. Look at that,(shock wears off) and people are starting to call things with their names.
Ain`t that cute????????
tomliordos 4 years ago
Bush KNEW about 911 before it happened AT THE LEAST!
tobymikle 4 years ago
The globalization has brought misery and social deprivation to the vast majority of the world population, according to the recent study by UN, 42% of the wealth of the world is in hand around 1% of world population i.e. 60 Million people, on the other hand half the world population i.e. 3 billion live with less than a dollar a day.
ArashIrani 4 years ago 3
This system cannot continue for ever, the corporations drive for greed and excessive profit is decimating forests, plundering natural resources, consequently, has plunged the world into more and more natural disasters, pollutions which has had profound effect on living environment.
ArashIrani 4 years ago
Yet another reason I love Canada ...
acmedata 4 years ago 3
That interviewer is just ranting. Does he have dementia or is he just generally bemused.
niceandeasygeorge01 4 years ago
That is a great point in refuting the conspiracy theorist stamp when she says they did not plan hurricane katrina either.
niceandeasygeorge01 4 years ago
The tendency of gov't is to move toward tyranny by slow operations.
The corporate globalists are USING and fueling the "culture war" between globalist LEFT and globalist RIGHT as a divide and conquer technique. Don't fall for it. The only battle that matters is between totalitarian predatory globalists and those who wish to preserve safeguards against the natural tendency of gov't. These safeguards, like the sovereignty of the bill of rights, WILL NEVER be "outdated."
blahinhawaii 4 years ago
I would love to see her have a discussion with Ron Paul. Like RP I believe in a libertarian free market, while public servants should be seen as SLAVES to democratic processes and should face merciless & swift retribution for crossing the line into corporate special interest fascism, even if they just put a pinky toe over that line. There should NEVER be a gov't that can force its ppl into a war 70% oppose.
blahinhawaii 4 years ago
My take on Naomi is that she speaks about the same thing (stopping authoritarian corporatist globalism) in MANY different vernaculars, always taking her audience into account when she speaks. I have heard her vehemently defend companies' legitimate ROLE and RIGHT to seek profits however they can while she vilified the public officials who got into bed with corporations. Because I see where she's coming from she can be loose with her language and I still follow her intent.
blahinhawaii 4 years ago
The CCCE and CFR totalitarian global corporatists claim to be non-partisan, and that's fine, because there are 1000 different philosophies and factions working in unison right now to obliterate them...which is a beautiful thing to watch. Karma's a bitch.
blahinhawaii 4 years ago
Klein and Lewis are wiggling to become part of the Canadian establishment -- how conservative is that! God, they do it for their own privileged glory. So much for the little man who can't jet set across the Atlantic to be on David Frost. Oh well, he can always buy their Chardonnay socialist brand and be funky, in absentia.
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
toll poppy syndrome?
tomliordos 4 years ago
Naomi Klein is right on. Capitalism is all about exploitation and this new wave of capitalism, which is an extension of Neoliberalism, is all about exploiting these types of disaster situations for profit. This is the plan of the Bush administration and republicans.
dufus190 4 years ago 3
Dufus is a very appropriate name for you.
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
She's biting the invisible hand of capitalism who feeds her plenty... it's called hypocrisy. She's no different from the rich socialist Michael Moore who also paints a black picture. Notice how she skipped the question of capitalism's virtues only to point to post war economies -- which were influenced by Soviet Russia and ultimately didn't work.
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
so anyone with money is a hypocrit? Come on read the writing beyond the network news, and don't simply attack the messenger, regardless of their fianacial status. Can't you see corp America feeding off disaster? when it used to be a responsibility embraced by the govt? She simply has the integrity to argue AGAINST her own financial interest. Think about it...integrity...hmmm...used to exist.
adsucher 4 years ago
Arguing against capitalism is in her financial interest, just like Moore who pulls down $28,000 for a 2 hour talk to students about the evils of Capitalism. Moore, Chomsky, Cornel West and Klein are not in the sugar fields of Cuba cultivating their ideology... they're in the sugar fields of financial investments and stock portfolios. In fact, Moore actually has stock in Haliburton. Check it out.
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
There's an explanation for this. Look at marx, look at engels (who came from a family of capitalists). One of the ultimate goals of communism and socialism is to grant everyone the right to an education that the elite so easily gets, an education that allows those who are well off to write books and leave their mark in history. There is no hypocrisy in this, the average person who works 40-80 hours a week has no time to study theory and fully develop their interests and live a full human life.
stayelusive 4 years ago
The average person doesn't work those hours unless they want to. There is plenty of opportunity for education and enterprise. If it wasn't so, then people would not want to immigrate to the US. They certainly didn't want to immigrate to Soviet Russia to stand in food lines.
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
as for moore, all I can say is he supports the democratic party, which confirms he is not a socialist. Pointing at well off socialists and saying they are hypocrites only shows how little you actually understand socialism, by either assuming socialism aims for a poor society or assuming that a socialist cannot utilize the tools given to them to advance socialism. If a socialist were to exploit other workers by hiring wage earners then yes I would say that socialist is a hypocrite.
stayelusive 4 years ago
The Democratic party has been taken over by the far left. Moore does exploit his workers (there is no union) and the masses by his attempts at deception. His film on Fahrenheit 9/11 was blatant propaganda and should have never been accepted as a documentary. Check out the harsh criticism it deserves from even people on the left like Christopher Hitchens. Leni Riefenstahl would be proud!
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
this aruement was used ever since jesus christ told people they had to share their material goods.
It is a false arguement to be consumed by deeply simple folk.(Or as they are now called "the been hads").
tomliordos 4 years ago
You my my friend have been had.
And now that you`ve heard it youre going to harden your position even more because it`s embarrasing to have been had and get caught supporting those that you`ve been had by thus perpetuating your own miserble status. Your type is the most predictible.
have a nice day!
tomliordos 4 years ago
You're talking about yourself. Read some critizism first about Moore then we'll discuss it.
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
if you think I was talking about Moore.. well.. I rest my case!!!
tomliordos 4 years ago
Well you should!
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
yeah you got me I give up. now go back and lick those boots.
tomliordos 4 years ago
You give up, good.
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
what are you 12?
tomliordos 4 years ago
try alex jones or micheal tsarion for some good examples
micheal moore is hired by the enemy
naomi klein is for real, she a down revolutionary, doing good, and fighting well..
KRZKrizza 4 years ago 3
Who has hired Moore? Klien is part of the establishment, as is Cornel West and Chomsky - they make a lot of money being anti-capitalists .
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
i said:
try ALEX JONES or MICHEAL TSARION
for some good info
or look up micheal moore exposed on youtube..
KRZKrizza 4 years ago
T. was interesting but saw evil everywhere. J. not as interesting and doesn't tell the whole truth. I don't believe in the government or capitalism being evil. Certainly they're not perfect and can always improve. Sinister intent & conspiracy is generally the viewpoint of the left who are not in power. It's a grievance laden, romantic POV that sees people as victims without personal choice. We can choose and have responsibilities for our choices and this more than anything can eradicate evil.
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
hah, thats not true. it doesn't matter who's presenting the argument. you should listen to what they say no matter what they look like.
calsonicSTi 4 years ago
i like naomi klein. very smart and oh so sexy.
calsonicSTi 4 years ago
Dear Naomi - please have smart left-wing babies with Avi Lewis. Canada needs you!
msrosamo 4 years ago
Did she say the bush administration was NOT responsible for 911....i was just starting to admire her. oh well. ...NEXT !
dazzanumber3 4 years ago
Stop blaming Capitalism Naomi, it's not the fault of a brilliant economic system. National defense and schools are not ready for privatization, and defense for that matter may never be, but I wish she would stop saying capitalism. Bush and Rumsfield aren't proponents of capitalism, that's just the coverup. They are downright fascists.
sabamerica 4 years ago
What she is doing is saying that corporations are irresponsible because they only look at profit and numbers, and they don't care about anything else unless it can make them money. But it's an even deeper problem that that. Humans are out of balance with the ecosystem and nature basically. To sum it up.
calsonicSTi 4 years ago
Briliant?
YOU know it was never thought up.
Capitalism is the result of humans not doing anything about it,ppl colected stuf from the very begining and called it theirs.
Briliant my ass,it`s a fuckin` accident.
tomliordos 4 years ago
i don't believe she was saying friedman was keynesian. she classifies herself as keynesian and criticizes the chicago school. she does not equate the two
eshneken 4 years ago
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This woman, Klein, is clueless. She makes reference to Keynesianism at the end of the video--the University of Chicago School, ala Milton Friedman, was patently not Keynesian; it was supply-sided. It's sad that she passes in the mainstream as an "intellectual".
qtronman 4 years ago
you are the clueless one. she never said the chicago school was keynesian. next time you slam someone, at least gets your facts straight.
historywillabsolve 4 years ago