was jesus crucified? (Biblical Studies) part 2

[thone2008]

Josephus wrote the Book of Jonah and Matthew-John-Luke - Why Cant Religion not realize that MAN WRITE BOOKS

[aloyblue]

a lot of a Anti Christ will be coming along the way at end time , including this guy Ahmad Departed.

[aloyblue]

If Jesus Christ was not crucified then who was crucified on that day?

where is the body of the so called man who replace the body of Jesus Christ.

how about the Shaun of Turin , Ahmad depart died a terrible death why?

Lies , lies after lies Satan Advocate

[knightsofstjoan2004]

You all want proof that Yeshua (JESUS) was really crucified? Go and read Daniel 9:24-27, Psalm 22, and Isaiah 53.

[aloyblue]

Isaiah 53:5

. It speaks of one known as the "suffering servant," who suffers because of the sins of others. Jesus is said to fulfill this prophecy through his death on the cross.[3] The following verse from Isaiah 53:5 is understood by Christians to speak of Jesus as the Messiah: 5But he was wounded because of our crimes, Crushed because of our sins; the disciplining that makes us whole fell on him, and by his bruises we are healed.

[aperisions]

Why would the almighty God not reveal the truth to the disciples of His prophet and messenger but instead keep them in complete darkness? Why would God allow the church to believe in such a grave lie for six centuries?

[aperisions]

cont- Who would be responsible for the millions of souls who went astray and believed in a lie? It would seem that God was in the center of this confusion. He would be the one who created the heresy of the crucifixion and made everyone believe that Jesus was the one who was crucified. In this case it makes God a deceiver!

[moonykamal]

the major issue in Islam is not whether those Christians who lived before Islam did or did not know the truth about the crucify...the big problem if they believed in what is called trinity , and whether they believed that Jesus is God or son of God....this is what counts for those people

[moonykamal]

now can I ask you :what about people who believed in God and worshiped him before Jesus was even born , will those go to hell or not ?? if they will then God is not fair cause he created them before Jesus.....if they won't, then it means that it is not necessary for Jesus to be crucified in order to save man from the sin...!!!!

[grapheeq]

@moonykamal - I learned in class 8 that "Atom is the smallest indivisible particle" at school and answered the same in my exams. I was promoted. But, when I was in Class 10, I came to know that "Atom can be further divided into Protons, Neutrons and Electrons". The answer was correct for that time, hence I was promoted. In case I give the same old answer now, I will fail.

[moonykamal]

@grapheeq

sorry but this does't applay here

the concept of christianity is :

jesus was God (or son of God)

came to earth and was crusified to make up for people's sins

what about the sins of people who died before jesus ??

if thier sins were to be forgiven ....then what is the point of jesus being crucified ?? sins can be forgiven without the need for jesus !!

and if thier sins will not be forgiven ...that is just unfair...and God is fair

[fdcmix1000]

@moonykamal i really don't like to comment. but have u read romans? the answer is in the 2 first chapters....

[moonykamal]

@fdcmix1000

hi....I do welcome your comment....

and this is the point

from what I have read(&understood) of the first 2 chapters of romans

people are going to be judjed according to their intentions and doings

if good then heaven

if bad then he will go to hell

and this has been stated in all of the religions sent by God(starting when Adam came to earth)

[moonykamal]

@fdcmix1000

so where did this idea of jesus being crusified and salvation idea came from ???

who invented this idea....--and claimed: those who believe that crusified jesus saved them from all sins -will go to heaven

and if you don't believe it will end up in hell !!!!?????

[fdcmix1000]

@moonykamal irst of all my friend i answered aquestion about those who died before christ..and the sacrifice of christ is reconciliation between men and God.have you read the of romans isaias,the four gospels,the torah and revelations.the same way u read the two first chapters of romans go read them and see by yourself...don't forget to read peter and daniel...that's all

[moonykamal]

@fdcmix1000

I am sorry but don't you think it is not common sense to read all that when the core of christianity (concept of trininty)CAN NOT be explained by any one !! and I mean any one

when ever I talk to somebody....he starts to answer me...then when I ask logic chronological qestions ....he starts to qoute from the bible and stops answering me logically !!

[fdcmix1000]

@moonykamal iactually u don't want to read it because it brings down all the islam stuff.don't try tp play with words.and honestly i don't care what you say whay you think or what you belive.if you want to believe it then amen.if u choose not to believe then amen .leave me in peace i have no time to waste.the Holly spirit is in charge of touching your heart.....you never talked to me i never talked to you.

[moonykamal]

@fdcmix1000

if you don't care about what I belive...I can't do the same

Muslims can't live their lives knownig that others have not got a clue about Islam( and live in false peace with themselves)

this matters to all of muslims...but at the end it is your choice

one more thing;

nothing can bring down Islam

[fdcmix1000]

@moonykamal my friend i don't care about islam.it is not what will stand steadfast or what will fall. the bible is the truth and allh is nobody to me .whatever ur speech might be i just don't care.if u have the light then be with ur light.if i am goin to hell so it be.i just don't care about allah and his teaching.i don't need to discuss anything with u,or anyone else.u preach ur islam faith and i preach my christian faith.if i'm headin to hell so it be,i have my free will.it's not ur business

[fdcmix1000]

@moonykamal how can you be dead and alive at the same time?logicly answer me.then speak about trinity or else get a job.

[moonykamal]

@fdcmix1000

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean ? could you explain alittle bit more ?

[fdcmix1000]

@moonykamal you don't understand...the same you don't understand...and you dare to speak about what you don't understand..

[moonykamal]

@fdcmix1000

what is it with you ??

I can see that you don't want to talk ...you just want to insult others

suit yourself but I won't be dragged into it

[moonykamal]

@fdcmix1000

I think that for anyone to start looking and reading about a new religion

the first thing to do is to see if he UNDERSTAND, accept and belive in that religion's most basic idea... (trinity when it coms to christianity)

and to tell you the truth I have not met any one who really understand this trinity concept....not even priests

[fdcmix1000]

@moonykamal well said then if u want to know about trinity just study the bible with the christians then u will understand.....then if u speak about logical then explain me how you can be dead and alive at the same

[fdcmix1000]

@moonykamal and congratulations for being so smart ...you can easily know what makes sence about trinity.i think you understand trinity better than moses and isaias or also better ezekiel...the christians are so stupid also isaias the one that had more revelations about the Christ than any man on earth.also the useless king david....congratulations muslim man,you just cleared up something that has been confusing christian since genesis till revelations.bravo bravo bravo.respect to you clap clap

[aperisions]

cont- But we know that we cannot attribute any of these detestable characteristics to God. He is a holy God who will never contradict His holy divine nature and act fraudulently however the false god Allah and his prophet would and in fact have deceived humanity by saying in the Satanic quran 4:157 that Christ was not crucified-Just what Satan wanted ,to take away the one and only thing that gives humanity salvation-the CROSS!

[megamixedful]

mr dedaat u r lucky that u memorized the bible from page to page and cover 2 cover, but unless u humble urself and listen d small voice in ur heart and accept Gods perfect plan of salvation thru Christ death, U CAN NOT UNDERSTAND d BIBLE as word of God coz u r only reading this just 4 u to be known. there is no religion that can saved our soul, only by Gods gift thru the death of my Savior.

[frwinia]

I love you Sheikh Ahmad..!! you could draw us a good truthful way to convince Xtians about the truth of Islam..!

May Allah Bless your soul..!

[aloyblue]

the truth what is the truth ?

Jesus Christ was crucified how do we know it ?

first the shourn of Turine.!

what is so special about this cloth!

for a normal person it is only a cloth!

but if u look at it scientifically the figure , body of Jesus Christ was super impose into the cloth. there is why x-ray photograph show a person in the cloth.thisi is because of a small nuclear explosion that occur ( a bright light emitter from the tomb)

[xkolomo]

I love this man.May God Bless him.

[aloyblue]

this death man don't know anything only lies , that way he was curse for 7 years paralyze.

GOD CURSE HIM !!!!

[ohicham]

This man, you say he was cursed by God, is trying to show you the right path, the truth.

Make up your mind man! try to look for the truth, don't be subjective.

[nicksgurl4life]

you know. alot of people get paralyzed when they are born, when they are children, or when they grow. its not a symbol of punishment or curse. he died with honor and good reputation.

on the other hand. look at Dr Shorosh.. the christian pastor or preachure i dont know. he got cought with a "fraud" trying to burn his condo. this person will die with discusting memories and no respect of what he did. now you tell me which way would any one die. with honor or with disgust and shame.

[SKJAVED9999]

was jesus crucified? (Biblical Studies) part 2

[aloyblue]

u are trying u very best to prove that Jesus Christ didn't die on the cross. if i can show u that prophet muhammad is the messanger of satan .what will u do ?

[kamalgilkesk]

first, show me

[knightsofstjoan2004]

@aloyblue=You want proof that Yeshua (JESUS) was really crucified? Go and read Daniel 9:24-27, Psalm 22, and Isaiah 53.