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  • GOD IS GREAT!!!!!!!

  • "2 Corinthians 11:14---And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light"

    Matthew 24:4--And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

  • I am blown away by the Glory of GOD!

  • @yahwehjoy GOD IS ABSOLOUTLY Amazing! The world is full of deceitful spirits trying hard for people to keep away and not to praise God, it hates it! But, we shall overcome, because the love of God is greater than any force! PLEASE, UNSAVED AND ATHEISTS, TURN TO JESUS! THIS IS TRUTH!

  • Ok, this is pure BS. Pat King is a witch.

  • @ryanneglect You're going to get saved, filled with the Spirit, and start prophesying in tongues. And you will know joy and love.

  • no it was a demon!! dont fall for it please!

  • @diewahrheitistnochda You're correct. Stop video @2:17 and put on a magnifier @4x, you'll see at least two demons/watchers on upper left side of fire. They have transformed/morphed into a deceiving angel of light.

  • @CrimsonRunnerToJesus Upon looking more closely there are many demonic/watchers combined taking on the form of this so-called angel.

  • you people are seriously deluded. god doesn't exist. religion is a manmade concept. wake up people we're in the 21st century. it's time to erase the burden and suffering of religion once and for all. we are all equal in this world. we're just animals roaming the earth. we're all just another piece of the puzzle of life on earth. no different than a tree, than a wolf, no different than the sun that shines down and gives us this life we obtain. i hope you can open your eyes. atheists are realistic

  • @ryanneglect @ryanneglect The demon is talking inside you, rebuke it. It's a liar, and all that's evil. If you love love, you'll love Jesus! So fight against evil, we all must love each other and help each other, and Jesus shows us the way!!! I LOVE JESUS SO MUCH!!!

  • thank you Lord.!

  • scam queen?? false prophet? if you guys are as saved as your're supposed to be you wouldn'y slander eachother like this. lshing out in anger and saying mean things is not something My God would approve of.

  • Haha, very funny video. Gotta love those youtube pranksters.

  • LOL, "unsafe people" ? WTF? The only unsafe people are those that makes videos like this one, those who tug at people's deepest insecurities for their own gain.

  • Great blessing this is. God is so great. God uses me in a amazing way also,he has anointed me to see into the Supernatural Spirirt Realm and take pictures of Jesus,Angels and of satan's demonic forces.i'm seeking to get it published,this ministry to share with the world.go to my site here on youtube. Pictures of Jesus and Angels proves the Shroud of Turin is real and with Jesus on it. and another 'Minister anointed to see into the spirit realm and take picture of Jesus and Angels. Be Blessed

  • @DonaldTful please give the link or url to know more about your ministry. God Bless!

  • Great blessing this is. God is so great. God uses me in a amazing way also,he has anointed me to see into the Supernatural Spirirt Realm and take pictures of Jesus,Angels and of satan's demonic forces.i'm seeking to get it published,this ministry to share with the world.go to my site here on youtube. Pictures of Jesus and Angels proves the Shroud of Turin is real and with Jesus on it. and another 'Minister anointed to see into the spirit realm and take picture of Jesus and Angels. Be Blessed

  • Um, camera flair that moves in equal and opposite to the camera movement?

    What is it about strong beliefs (of anything) that shuts down common sense?

  • Scam queen. Do intelligent Christians really fall for this. Surely not those who know their Bible. Be good Bereans, folks.

  • Impressive but there is nothing more impressive than seeing how Jesus can change someones heart. Even the devil and his cohorts can perform signs and wonders so it's best not being taken up in this stuff!!

  • donaldoflea..thats not godly...May God give you a deeper revelation of himself and bless you with joy and peace...especially may he get you to love and except yourself for you.

  • hey fi you want to go and see some angels they'll be dressed in green in hospitals. those are angels. they heal you, they save lives and they have no problem saving lives no matter if you're black, white, hebrew, muslim,christian,atheist. christians are bad people, and stuck up. it's not their fault. it's the fault of the superstructures of religion.

  • people see and judge according to what they have inside their hearts if your have evil inside your heart evil you will see, if god lives in you then you will see god. las personas ven y juzgan de acuerdo a lo que llevan en su corazon, si tienen a dios veran a dios pero si tienen odio y maldad adentro de su corazon en todo veran al diablo.

  • Catholic`s are fucked up.....big time! This chick is mental...it is a dam flare from the fire...I wish God would slap some sense into these idiots!

  • @donaldoflea wow your really rude

  • @donaldoflea they're not catholics. get your facts right

  • Catholic`s are fucked up.....big time!

  • thats not an angel......you guys are retards. Thats a camera flare you stupid idiots.

  • Funny, that "angel" only moves when the cell phone moves. It's stationary when the cell phone is stationary, and the entire video imagery moves in like manner, distorting proportionally as the hand moves. (and only 15 seconds of dancing?)

    Notice all the people around the fire being healed etc, as Mrs. King so proudly announced. (NONE)

    This is one of the most common dupes known to the con artists.

    It's still working it's deceptive magic today.

    Google "Patricia King exposed" Xian Witchcraft

  • lens flare really ? come on, people need to accept truth, God is real and the signs are here ! embrace Jesus , and seek the Lord with all your heart while he may still be found ! unbelievers need to start believing

  • Amazing, it truly is the image of a heavenly flying creature, an angel. In the the praise, God moves how He wants and where He wants.

  • This is Lens Flair.

    That is all.

  • Ok with regards to lens flare they only take place with still shoots and in video it will cut in and out at different angles hello!!!! This doesn't cut in and out the angel moves around the fire if it where a lens flare it couldn't have done that. I used my brain how about u? :)))

    Much luv and understanding!!!

  • when people sees something so beautyful and spiritual and makes horrible remarks, is the devil inside them. belive me the devil will never make something so wonderful, he knows that you will fall in love with god even more , and he will not be happy with that. this is the work of the king of kings. i am not cristian i am catholic

  • I work there in the radio station that is in the camp. I'm a Pastor in the Island. Curiously, nobody speaks about that sign or manifestation there. I have seen the video and is very difficult to define; it is blurred. But I'm convinced it is a reflection of the light in the camera lense. I have seen in the past a lot of this kind of claims based on speculations and imagination. We christians are grounded in the Scriptures, not in this kind of stuff.

  • God can use anything he wants to bring us to a knowledge of Him.. Thank Heaven that God is moving in the islands !!

  • If... This were a real manifestation, and I am not saying whether it is or not. Than why aren't people on YouTube turning to Christ as well b/c of it? God isn't so small that he would waste an amazing opportunity if its genuine...

    God Bless ~Amy

  • Hi Amy. If you read the story of the rich man and Lazarus, you will see that Abraham explains to the rich man about God sending miraculous signs and people still don't believe. It's peoples blindness that needs to be broken, and not God's wasted opportunities. Bless you.

  • I don't want to come across rude, so I'll try to say this as politely as possible.

    Taking one instance out of the Bible and trying to apply it to all situations or this this situation in an attempt to validate it is not only taking things out of context but is the result of poor exegesis and poor hermeneutics.

    It is true that there are true signs from God and people stil don't believe, but at the same time, if it is a true sign of God many ppl WILL believe and repent

  • not only that, that something that is truly from God lin es up with the Bible as this is our only way to test whether or not something is of God, and we must test, lest we be decieved.

    To say that just because people do not believe means it is of God is a little bit silly. That is like saying that God exist because I believe he does. Or vice verse, just because I believe its from God does not mean it is either, it has to line up with scripture.

    I hope you at least understand

    God Bless ~Amy

  • Signs and wonders do not determine whether or not a person will turn to Christ. The Holy Spirit does that, and He only.

    I am sorry to have caused any offense Amy. That was not my intention.

    Bless you as you continue to learn more about Jesus, as we should all be doing, in these last days.

  • It looks someone tall, has a robe with puffed sleeves, and it shows the body contoured movemente when it is standing up and kneeling down in order to reach something. A lens reflection is not that specific; specially in a country where most people seems to be short. I am from there 5"4 tall.

  • This is awesome!!

    God is so good =)

  • Lens flare

    Look it up, it happens in extreme light photography. Its common when photographing lights at night.

    Use your brains people.

  • Looks like the Catholics aren't the only ones with apparitions. Good news you can read all kinds of this stuff in the inquirer.

  • Luk 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

    Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

  • This sort of thing will never drive sinners to the cross of Christ.

    Read this scripture.

    Graham.

  • Not sayig I believe that the angel is real, but how can you say a angelic visitation couldn't lead someone to God if it isn't genuine? I don't believe there is anything in scripture that hints that angelic visitations can't lead people to God if they are indeed genuine, but rather angels (not fallen angels) are called usually brought as messengers of God, which is consistent throughout scripture.

    Whether or not this instance is genuine, I cannot say, but that's not my point.

    God Bless ~Amy

  • Satan is an angel of Light.

  • Get to know science, It is a blue flame from the smoke. Prove it. Blew it up.

  • Not going to judge the people with the gemstones anymore, and If I have offended, I am sorry. Who is to say it's not true if it indeed points to Christ? my apologies.

  • lol at 3:16 her voice changed

  • What is the problem with Patricia King videos on Youtube, they always get distorted at some point!

  • It's the Devil. Keeps trying to not let her prove anything.

  • Where in Puerto Rico was this? what town and when?

  • San Juan. A person that lives right there in San Juan will be checking it out in the next couple of weeks and let me know. This will be interesting.

  • So this was recent?

  • awesome. I never seen this before. I want to go there if we don't have this near where I live.

    Your video is only odd in the sense that the men's voice goes on when Patricia's face is on and etc.

  • What is awesome about this false teaching?

  • I don't know that it is. I seen something wierd by a fire before but didn't look like an angel's body, just wing shape.

  • She teaches new age and occultism, then throws in a few Christian phrases to legitimize herself.

  • Yeah, stinks to high heaven, man. Soon going to blow the lid off this.

  • no false teachin!!

  • Do you mean, you don't believe it's false? Or do you mean you don't want to hear her false teachings?

    New age mysticism and witchcraft are things the Bible explicitly warns us to stay away from - this is what her teaching consists of.

  • bullshit

  • Sorry, but no farmers wrote the Bible. There was a fisherman, a doctor, a tax collector, a Pharisee (religious scholar) and murderer, a couple of kings, a bunch of prophets (guys who both called people out for their bad behaviour and told the future), as well as a smattering of national leaders. No farmers, though.

    Why are you an atheist? That takes a lot of faith!

  • i am an athiest wise guy and farmer's wrote bible

  • FYI, farmers didn't write the Bible... There wasn't a single farmer in the apostles. Go do some research before you make such a silly comment... But nice try. :p

    God Bless ~Amy

  • who wrote the bible?

    Mark? god? inspired by God?

    see the documentry on history channel available on you tube

    banned from bible .............

    there are like 20 bibles and every ten years some farmer discovers a new one.

    that rejects the main themes and are there any words left in there .

    just watch the documentry man

  • Go do some research - don't just watch TV. Search on the term "textual criticsim." Read the book by Lee Strobel "The Case for the Real Jesus" - done by a former atheist, lawyer, and newspaper reporter.

  • what ever

  • "For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even

    the elect."

    Mark 13:22, KJV

    God doesn't change, so this fraud is exactly that, fraud. Beware, seek God Know wisdom.

  • Thomas we all have access to the same GoD. Stick to your faith it's a good one,beautiful and like a fluffy pillow ,lay your head on it and you are free of all tensions.

    Take responsibility for your actions,there is no hell or heaven but that we make ourselves.

    And all have same access to the God.

    Bye.

    spread love and tolerance,this was the message of christ wasn't it.

  • Yes, we all have access to the same God - but ONLY through Jesus Christ! I'm free of tensions - I rest in my Saviour - that doesn't mean I just ignore the perversion of truth.

    Tolerance? That would be like having the cure to all cancer, then keeping to myself because I don't want to impose my cure on people. It's absurd!

    Hell is a VERY real place! THAT is why I won't let everyone go there without an effort!

  • God is who created this diverse universe .God is Who All the humans worship.Christians through jesus,hindus through Ram,muslims directly,Budhists through Budha and all other religeons or cultures through their choosen way.

  • Yes, God created the universe. There's only one God & it's not the one that hindus, buddhists and muslimst worship. These are all false religions whose end is only death.

    Jesus Christ shows us the ONLY way. HE is the ONLY way! He said "I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH, and THE LIFE; no one comes to the Father except by me"

    The false religions you mention will bring all who follow them to eternity in Hell.

  • if this stuff is true then the angel responded to the feelings of faith and that's it.

  • christian youth ! like all the angels only visit christians and god is a christian.

    Any 1 can see angels.Christian religeon by the way is built on good ethical grounds.

    open up your mind guys God looks after us all.

  • Angels don't just visit Christians - they visit and influence others as well, like the loon in the vid. However, these are FALLEN angels, also sometimes called Demons, that influence others.

    God isn't a Christian - that would make him human, rather than God. God is who Christians worship, to whom they have access through His son, Jesus Christ. He said "I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE; no one comes to the Father but by me"

  • God is who created this diverse universe .God is Who All the humans worship.Christians through jesus,hindus through Ram,muslims directly,Budhists through Budha and all other religeons or cultures through their choosen way.

  • Thomas we all have access to the same GoD.

    Stick to your faith it's a good one,beautiful and like a fluffy pillow ,lay your head on it and you are free of all tensions.

    Take responsibility for your actions,there is no hell or heaven but that we make ourselves.

    And all have same access to the God.

    Bye.

    spread love and tolerance,this was the message of christ wasn't it.

  • have it your way !

    whatever way

    through ........

  • It's not my way - it's God's way.

  • HOG WASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • This is the first public revelation of the identity of the "Man of Sin" the entity that has had man, scholars and poets searching for centuries for identity, it was said that b4 the end he would be revealed!

    The Man of sin is Jesus Christ himself!

    2nd cor5;21 declares:

    This man Jesus Who knew no sin became sin that we might be made righteous b4 God! he took all upon himself as a man and nailed sin! "past, present and future" to the cross forever! The scripture is now fulfilled on utube!

  • ravingwolf - I hope you realize you're making yourself into a laughing stock with this stuff dumped all over the place. Why don't you admit you're a gnostic & forget the whole thing, or seek God and read His Word?

  • Lets see. It was either a human being standing then kneeling then standing again, his image distorted by the lighting conditions and low quality of the camera, or else it was the God Loki. Better not anger him by worshipping any Jewish divinity.

  • "An evil and adulterous generation SEEKS after a sign; and a sign will not be given it, except the sign of Jonah" (Matthew 16:4).

    Test all things and try the spirits by the Bible, not the claims of men...or women (1 Thessalonians 5:21; 1 John 4:1).

  • Yes and thank God my Jesus died on the cross so that we wouldnt have to stone people. Like Jesus said whom so ever has no sin cast the first stone. Its funny how many christians would love to cast that stone of unholy righteousnesses.And Jesus taught not to be offended. Jesus himself was an offence to the pharisees. You dont know my heart or the hearts of anyone else.Jesus knows my heart , my life, my love and my love for the lost and unloved. Try not to such a pharisee.They missed out on Jesus.

  • Amen. Only the Father knows our hearts and Jesus will judge all those who sin.. By the way - Jesus believed and taught that we are to stone false prophets (Duet 13). It is in the Word of God - Jesus wrote this law!

  • Im so tired of the misunderstood "pharisee" concept used by the false revival all the time to rebuke those who discern:

    Jesus rebuked the pharisees because of there man made rules and extra-old testament doctrines they imposed on the people.

    The real pharisee are the false teachers and prophets of today - not the ones who discern as we are told to.

  • im saddened by the way some of my fellow Christians behave. If you dont like the video or believe its what ever thats fine but name calling and down right ugliness needs not apply. If you fell Patricia is wrong then pray for her to have discernment.

  • JESUS SAID "I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. 'So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth." (Rev3:15). We live in an age where those who claim to know Jesus have no love in them for others - they would rather watch others perish instead of speaking up and possibily offending them... how selfish. Now wonder the church is powerless and dying.

  • By the way i serve The King of Kings and lord Of Lords Jesus Christ Of Nazareth THe Son of GOD, The Word Become FLesh, Jesus who shed his blood on the cross and died for My sins . Jesus , the Love of my life who Rose from the dead! The Living GOD. Just incase you were mistaken.

    "We live in an age where those who claim to know Jesus have no love in them for others (Rev3:15) My point exactly. They have no love.

    I can quote scripture to prove my point but would rather use it to save souls.

  • Great. Learn what this 1st century Torah observant, kosher, Jewish rabbi taught. The REAL rabbi Yahshua taught 100% from the "Old" Testament (he never saw a "New" Testament & neither did Paul). YahsHua is a very different man from the santizied 21st century "Jesus" your pastor has been teaching you about. If you love the very Jewish Messiah, the "Lord of the Sabbath, then we serve the same King and you will have no problem in what I've said.

  • pure stupidity.. When an angel appears, it is a distinct, bold, and powerful manifestation. This woman is clinically "delusional" and the video clip proved she believes just about any ridiculous claim. Scripture warns that in the end times God will send a STRONG DELUSION to those who ignore His commandments (the "lawless"). These pawns fo Satan will profess the name of "Jesus" while performing signs and wonders.

  • Very Christ like of you. Shouldnt you be praying for the people that you believe are wrong and praying for there discernment rather then calling them spawn of satan. Very mature. You should read your Bible a bit more. Only GOd knows there hearts. I just pray the Love and joy of the Lord hits you and washes all bitterness and Unrighteous anger away. Be blessed In Jesus name!

  • Perhaps you follow a different christ? I follow Yahshua Mashiach,Son of the God of Israel. My Christ taught stoning of false prophets (Deut 13) and warned "Not everyone who calls me 'Lord' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day,Lord,have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? I will declare to them, I never KNEW you;depart from Me,you evil ones! Matt 7:21-23

  • This is just another sad commentary on how gullible people are to accept anything, but the Word of God. Reflective light on a camera lens is more important than to humbly bow to the teaching of the eternal Scriptures! The last days will be marked by deception, and one couldn't ask for more proof than this. Patricia King is carrying on an unbiblical practice and is openly disobeying commands of scripture regarding those who should be in the gospel ministry.

  • Omg this is so frackin funny. It is obviously a smudge on the camera lense otherwise the "Angel" wouldn't move when he moved his phone. LOL.

  • wow i guessthey are real angels

  • How do you guys know thats not some spirit who wants to get a reaction out of you? - Ohh, I guess its because christians believe that angels and demons are the only spirits that people come into contact with, here on the earth:( My God, I'm glad I got out of that mindset!

  • Don't people see how the New Age Community and the Spirit Filled Christians are so much alike! You really can't tell the difference between these two groups accept one believes in Hell Fire/weeping and nashing of teeth if you don't follow "the book" and the other one is free to evolve spiritually and not be afraid of eternal damnation, you know what would be cool, Spirit filled christianity without the idea of hell fire and brimstone and demons constantly attacking you.

  • JAMESBROWNINTOWN - "Don't people see how the New Age Community and the Spirit Filled...." - The sad commentary is some "NEW AGE CHRISTIANITY" that says it is the ONLY Christianity.. There actually is some sane Christianity out there if you live in the northeastern states.. Try a UCC or ABC church on for size (united church of christ or american baptist)

  • Sorry guapobear, if it has the word "christianity" in it,then it's not sane period. Every institutionalized religion is creating for the purpose of enslaving the human spirit, and to keep people from evolving spiritually. I suggest you watch Jordan Maxwell's "The Naked Truth" or David Icke's "Prison Religions" the lie is that you need a middle man between you and God. Christianity is the biggest deception prison religion to mis guide us and enslave us. Thanks Emporer Constantine and the council

  • jamesbrownintown - "Sorry guapobear, if it has the word "christianity" in it,then it's not sane period." - Well, there we have it, the undisputable truth.. huh? AND "...the lie is that you need a middle man between you and God..." - But you say I need TB, BJ, PK and the gang to show me how to get that?? I HAVE NO MIDDLEMAN BETWEEN MYSELF AND GOD.. BTW, I TALKED WITH GOD OVER BREAKFAST TODAY, I MENTIONED TODD B & THE FLORIDA OUTPOURING AND HE SAID, "TODD WHO & THE FLORIDA WHAT??" YOU ARE SO FUNNY

  • You talked to God? was it Jesus? God the father? or God the holy spirit? and don't tell me they are all the same otherwise Jesus would've been praying to himself.

  • jamesbrownintown - "You talked to God?" - Yes, I did, and He said if you asked me any smartass questions about it, tell you to talk with him yourself.. There's one condition.. He said you had to be alone, in a dark quiet place, and on your knees..

  • "You talked to God?" - Yes, I did, and He said if you asked me any smartass questions about it, tell you to talk with him yourself.. There's one condition.. He said you had to be alone, in a dark quiet place, and on your knees.. "

    What so he'll be ready to give a Holy Blowjob?

  • so irreverent.. hehehe.. that wasn't what i think he had in mind.. maybe you have a dirty mind?? hehehe

  • Jamesbrownintown - Yes, I talked to God. He said it was a confidential conversation for the most part.. If you want more details, talk to Him yourself.. He said to tell you to get on your knees in a quiet place...

  • Yea, isn't that what the mormons tell you to do? To ask God yourself. You are a trooper guapobear! Blind faith in an unstable belief system is not easy. You guys claim everyone else is hearing from demon lying manipulating spirits but surely, if this is the case for them, than why can't if be for you. Why isn't God telling you what matters like the illuminati and the fact that you and I are enslaved to them, their political systems, their prison religions, etc. Com'mon guy wake up!

  • jb, it gets really complicated.. we don't have to be enslaved to anybody.. yeah.. we have to be "in this world, not of it," and you and I hear those words abused all the wrong ways a lot, - people miss that fact that we are to participate in our world.. not sit and just throw rocks and hide our hands and say we're "in the world not of it".. and that we're above all the fray.. As for those powers of systems that we cannot control, the powers and principalities, we leave that to the Almighty One

  • Thats what the Jews said before the Nazi empire came crashing down on them, Them and their trust in God got them free train rides. If there is a God, I think he has given us a brain. The problem is that christians don't want to get involved in important issues like politics, the system, secrecy and slavery. These guys are lazy and they say, who cares if we're slaves and the illuminati wants to reduce the population, let God deal with them. Religion leads the way to genocide, slavery, and war!

  • dont judge the video just because the image cmon people right now you take a picture without to the sky and may be u can get a images like that without knowing anybody can do that but in this case you are watching a real angel not only showing up but doing something

  • didnt you guys saw the video im from PR i know what happen a group of people were throwing a piece of paper with a message to god and the angel if you see the clip was picking up the papers that went out of the fire and putting them back now thats is really fantastic

  • im not saying its not. but the bible does say that even satan at times can disguise himself as a angel of light. at any rate if it has brought ppl to GOd then ok then

  • Angels do exist, this is not a UFO video......this is the real deal.

  • If I were an angel wanting to make my presence known, I think I'd go for something less ambiguous. Didn't get a shot of the late Pope John Paul II in a picture of flames recently? Also, the narrator/reporter lady said that at first they saw a demonic image, then angelic. If this was indeed supernatural, and if that first image was demonic, I'd be worried about the possibility that this was not a demon conquered by an angel, but rather a demon who appeared in the form of an angel.

  • You are triying to hard my friend.Demons want to disturb anybody who Praises GOD. But demons Can't Withstand the Power of GOD.YOU can tell when is GOD or not.GOD will le you know.When is GOD,GOOD things start to happen.

  • Listen Docpepper, If you would really look at the fruit of this sighting..God is using this to reach people..He always uses things for good..so if it was a demon..which I don't believe that..ha.ha on the demon because people are getting the hearts turned to God..

  • I personally think this is legit, since it has been verified by experts. Regardless, God is using it! If someone meant this as a hoax, it has really backfired, dontcha think? God has taken this and used it for His own purposes, regardless of whether the miracle is real or not. Nobody comes to the Father unless except through Christ...even if Christ uses a contraversial video to do it.

  • StephanieLynn75 - "Nobody comes to the Father unless except through Christ...even if Christ uses a contraversial (sic) video to do it." - That is exactly the evident problem w/ TB/PK/BJ et al and FreshFire.. The idea that it is OKAY TO FAKE something if it gets somebody to Christ... JESUS NEVER FAKES.. AND IF YOU'RE FAKING OR HAVE TO FAKE YOUR WITNESS?.. YOU AIN'T REAL .. CASE CLOSED.. next!!!

  • Not cool! Saw this on Godtube. It is no angel! The image moves with the camera, it is merely a reflection of the fire on the camera lense. I have e-mailed extremeprophetic for their comments. As yet, no reply!

    Put your cursor on the screen and you will see that when the camera moves so does the image - up down left right. She says it herself that the other guy could not see it until he looked at it through his friends cellphone. No more miraculous than Mother teresas face in a doughnut!

  • You are absolutely correct. This is Spiritually Criminal and Morally Irresponsible. It does more damage than good.

  • Thank you VJ. I was beginning to think that EVERYONE had been put under some sort of spell. I guess some people see what they want to see. I agree with you. It makes a mockery of the gospel. BTW still no reply from Len@extremeprophetic. (no surprise there!)

  • I couldnt agree more, its no wonder why most people think christians are a joke. It's because of this kind of mindless rhetoric. It actually hurts me that people are tryingt o make money like this. And i feel even worse for the people that are buying it =(

  • I did get a sort of reply from EP. Len said that it had been varified as genuine by a paranormal expert and a film director!!

    How about that? Do you think the 3 shepards went to a paranormal expert to varify the angelic appearence? Listen to what is said - It was only seen on a cell phone! Salvation based on this? Unsafe!!

  • I disagree. Salvation is not "based" on the sighting of an angel, Mother Theresa's face on a doughnut, or any other such thing. Salvation is based on Christ. Jesus said that nobody comes to the Father except through Him. Even if He chose to use something that may or may not be real, the point is, He drew someone to Himself through it. It is not for us to decide how He does that, or to determine if someone's salvation is safe or legitimate because that is the method He used.

  • I think this is a angel, I know what God can do, I have seen many miracles. But is all aboute beliving, You must belive to experience Gods work and miracles.

  • Of course God performs miracles. Saying this is not an angel does not undermine that. Saying that it is (when it is plainly no such thing) certainly does.

    You say - "You must believe to experience Gods work" Absolute rubbish!

    God works - then you believe! God is NOT reliant on me believing. What gospel are you reading?

    Think what you like - its no angel!

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