@natmanprime Uh...remind me when Carlin was ever for censoring language? He may have been liberal on certain social issues (drugs, civil rights, etc), but Carlin's NEVER supported political correctness. So he's not a hypocrite, you're wrong.
@CoolerKing37 but i dont think anyone was really for censoring language, at least not to the extent he was talking about. i reckon it was just something set up for people to attack and say "ooh this PC has gone crazy!"
that was my main point really
and also theres kind of a dishonesty, or maybe a reticence to open up, he just gets angry exaggeratedly
@natmanprime Wait. I'm a bit confused because you seem to be contradicting yourself. In your first post you seem to be implying that Carlin had a large role in helping create political correctness because of his style in the 60's, but in your last post you say political correctness isn't that big of a problem. What is it you're trying to say exactly? And of course he's exaggerating. It's for comedic effect (the same way Richard Pryor's crackpipe didn't LITERALLY speak to him).
@natmanprime Wait. You keep changing your argument. You started off complaining that Carlin was the reason political correctness exists but now you're saying that you just don't like his style of stand-up. You're being very inconsistant with your arguments.
@CoolerKing37 u can read it for yourself i said FIGUREHEAD not 'the reason' ok maybe he helped it, i dont know whateveer THE POINT IS the same: he's attacking what isn't really there. political correctness is, at worst, institutionalised fairness. The right have made it a big thing, its not so bad really, anyway never mind that just look at the comments i just gave you that's more than just saying "i dont like his stand up
@natmanprime Explain to me how Carlin is a "figurehead" for political correctness, exatly. It sounds to me like you're a guy who believes in that concept and when Carlin bashed your own ideology you were offended. Carlin attacks all sides of the political spectrum, but when he does it to your own side you get upset. And don't tell me to not get fixated, I'm just holding you accountable for your own words. If that's too much for you, then why bother posting in the first place?
@CoolerKing37 but ur nOt holding me accountable, thats my point, look at my whole statement instead of ignoring bits to suit you.
i said hes a figurehead for the hippie movement ie baby boomers, now he's attacking them. thats alll ust a casual observation (that sems to have upset you).
point 2: he's attacking orwellian language, which is fine, but hes calling it 'political correctness', which is technically something else, and is therefore bashing it as a straw man pinyata
@natmanprime So what's wrong with attacking baby boomers? Carlin shits on ALL groups. He doesn't owe any group anything. And he's attacking politically correct langauage. That's what it's called.
@natmanprime So your problem is really just semantics. You're just being literal and anal retentive about a comedy bit. You're like a guy who goes "Excuse me, Mr. Comedian, your assumption that asains aren't good drivers is very inaccurate. I know many asians who are quite competent behind the wheel...blah blah..." That's you. You're being a comedy hole. And quit with your "siding with the baby boomers" idea. That argument neither holds weight or makes sense.
@natmanprime Also, politically correct language covers any type of attempt at softening or watering down words to make their original intent vague and less "harmful". That's what this whole bit is about, which you don't seem to understand at all. And quit with that passive-agressive "why are you getting upset?" horseshit defense.
@CoolerKing37 u again FUCK ok meathead listen: i have no right to expect abuse for expressing an opinion. if u start getting aggressive, then naturally i will ask why. it's called CIVILISED BEHAVIOUR i made no personal attacks without reason. either argue it, or say nothing. whats the point in getting upset either way? thats why i'm asking. its REALLY POINTLESS. now: i've no problem with what carlins attacking. its called OBFUSCATION. political corectness= POLITENESS. MANNERS. not the same
@natmanprime "political corectness= POLITENESS. MANNERS" lol, that's just silly. But going back to what I said you seem to only have a problem with semantics. You keep revising your argument with each post it's difficult to understand what you're trying to convey.
@CoolerKing37 no that was my point from day one, PC is *institutionalised* manners. now, my problem is, under the banner of 'PC', politeness/manners is mixing in with obfuscation. and george carlin is doing that mixing. by labelling 'obfuscation', as "PC". And theres no need FOR the phrase "PC" ANYWAY.
So NOW, because of this mixing, if u want to destroy obfuscation, you have to destroy MANNERS and POLITENESS.
@CoolerKing37 nope u just oculdnt undderstand it first time. unless u can show me good reason and shit, i'll assume ur a troll , who i kinda expected if u look at the REST of my initial commnet.
@natmanprime also, he wasn't an appointed figurehead by anyone AT ALL. he did all of what he did for the teaching people the reality of life (from little things to the big world) through comedy. he LOVED to describe how things are rather than how they should be or ought to be. and he had no business in fixing ANY of it.
@natmanprime and yes there are people crazy enough like you mentioned to censor. for example, the perfect case is the reverend that ended up complaining because he didn't switch to a different channel on the radio when carlin was a radio host and said some "bad" words. which was a case that ended up all the way up to the supreme court, and ended up losing to them. that is where, and a reason why tv and radio are now censored to the extent that they are, rather than everything bring unrestricted.
@natmanprime he used to like the people around him when the hippie movement was happening because mostly everyone was against the institution, and against a lot of things that were worth being against, but now that they have children and a family, most of those same people "went from 'Love is all you need' to 'Whoever winds up with the most toys wins,' and they went from cocaine to Rogaine
watch?v=BntoHO2e3yY&feature=fvwrel
watch from 1:40 and i hope you can see what i mean and what he means
@natmanprime lol Think whatever you like, do whatever you like the information is still here.
and being called idiot affects you that much? damn.. i guess like you implied (i do respond nicely to abuse, as to you don't). didn't call you anything else. and i'd suck off carlin's old wrinkly balls any day of the week if he was alive, than to even see yours.
P.S.: there's no such club, my comments were no real essays (was just catching up to your own long ass comments from before)
@natmanprime lol Think whatever you like, do whatever you like the information is still here.
and being called idiot affects you that much? damn.. i guess like you implied (i do respond nicely to abuse, as to you don't). didn't call you anything else. and i'd suck off carlin's old wrinkly balls any day of the week if he was alive, than to even see yours.
P.S.: there's no such club, my comments were no real essays (was just catching up to your own long ass comments from before)
@natmanprime lol mr funny guy. i may be a bitch, but at least i'm a well informed bitch unlike your pretentious, and pompous self. go learn a thing or two before you start making uninformed, and biased comments.
yet again, you misunderstand lol read what i said about your dick, and you'll realize it's the opposite of what you have in that petty little mind of yours. (and yes i mean petty not pretty. you'd probably misunderstand that too judging by the way you present yourself)
@natmanprime wasn't harassing (at first). was only trying to get you to get your facts straight, but your poor attitude keeps you from allowing that to happen. meh whatever. and say what you want think what you want. i can't and won't shut you up. that's the beauty of the internet. i'm done
"In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king..."
All of them could be blind, but one can say he can see (but he can't), and no one will ever know... Don't know why but it kinda reminds me religion...
But slow is a "PC" euphamism too. As is "execution" (which has the literally meaning of "carrying out") instead of "murder" and even things we'd now consider crude like "Dick" instead of "penis". This isn't a reflection of any current state of society, that's just how it's always been and how it will always be. Words take on negative connotations over time and people eventually feel bad about this and feel the need to use something that they think won't have this same stigma attached.
if we can be viewed as a "lookist" how longis it going to be before a person who didnt like who they slept with or said to them "Ive had better" could be called a "fuckist"
Carlin isn't "late". He's dead!
yarlkorg 3 months ago 2
I agree with carlin. niggers, cripples, faggots, fatasses, sodomites, all need to be called by their real names.
tallswede80 3 months ago
Severe Appearance Deficits = S.A.D.
WaTcHxThExRePlaY 6 months ago 2
Time to type midget again. No need to use the 'F' or 'C' word anymore. Midget is now so ofensive, that is knocks fuck and cunt out the door.
TulipFarella 7 months ago
Who the fuck wants to see your douchey six pack?
compelledtopuke 8 months ago
holy fuck ! In this age of snookie and westboro baptist church and charlie sheen- do we NEED this guy!
ccipollini1984 11 months ago
@ccipollini1984 if you're saying we do need this guy then I agree and if you're saying we don't then your missing the point of this speech
zornsthorne 9 months ago
@zornsthorne
the first one. I'm pro carlin.
ccipollini1984 9 months ago
George- you are sorely missed here- thank God we had you for a brief time.
machikoneko 11 months ago
George Carlin... never better!
I'm sure he'd have a few choice words about Señorita Caca de la Mente... known to many as "Lady Gaga."
StukInBuf 1 year ago
What's with the picture of the shirtless dilt? Correlates to the audio in no way, shape or form.
Xanatos712 1 year ago
all this stuff he's attacking comes from the hippy bullshit that he fucking helped support and was one of the figureheads for
and no one ever really said half the stuff he's talking about anyway
so it's a big fat hypocritical comedic strawman...
a lame target
poor comedy
and i love his live shows usually, so don't start getting all hurt and defensive, fanatics...
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime Uh...remind me when Carlin was ever for censoring language? He may have been liberal on certain social issues (drugs, civil rights, etc), but Carlin's NEVER supported political correctness. So he's not a hypocrite, you're wrong.
CoolerKing37 7 months ago
@CoolerKing37 but i dont think anyone was really for censoring language, at least not to the extent he was talking about. i reckon it was just something set up for people to attack and say "ooh this PC has gone crazy!"
that was my main point really
and also theres kind of a dishonesty, or maybe a reticence to open up, he just gets angry exaggeratedly
natmanprime 7 months ago
@natmanprime Wait. I'm a bit confused because you seem to be contradicting yourself. In your first post you seem to be implying that Carlin had a large role in helping create political correctness because of his style in the 60's, but in your last post you say political correctness isn't that big of a problem. What is it you're trying to say exactly? And of course he's exaggerating. It's for comedic effect (the same way Richard Pryor's crackpipe didn't LITERALLY speak to him).
CoolerKing37 7 months ago
@CoolerKing37 nah, he was just a figurehead for it
political correctness is more than just censoring language.
check out the comedian "stewart lee" on YT
i'm not complaining that he's exagerrating OBVIOUSLY
just that its only about anger
pryor was more brave because he showed his vulnerable weak side
as opposed to just going "yeah fuck them, and fuck them" in a macho way
pryor was more OPEN
natmanprime 7 months ago
@natmanprime Wait. You keep changing your argument. You started off complaining that Carlin was the reason political correctness exists but now you're saying that you just don't like his style of stand-up. You're being very inconsistant with your arguments.
CoolerKing37 7 months ago
@CoolerKing37 u can read it for yourself i said FIGUREHEAD not 'the reason' ok maybe he helped it, i dont know whateveer THE POINT IS the same: he's attacking what isn't really there. political correctness is, at worst, institutionalised fairness. The right have made it a big thing, its not so bad really, anyway never mind that just look at the comments i just gave you that's more than just saying "i dont like his stand up
"
dont get so fixated
natmanprime 7 months ago
@natmanprime Explain to me how Carlin is a "figurehead" for political correctness, exatly. It sounds to me like you're a guy who believes in that concept and when Carlin bashed your own ideology you were offended. Carlin attacks all sides of the political spectrum, but when he does it to your own side you get upset. And don't tell me to not get fixated, I'm just holding you accountable for your own words. If that's too much for you, then why bother posting in the first place?
CoolerKing37 7 months ago
@CoolerKing37 but ur nOt holding me accountable, thats my point, look at my whole statement instead of ignoring bits to suit you.
i said hes a figurehead for the hippie movement ie baby boomers, now he's attacking them. thats alll ust a casual observation (that sems to have upset you).
point 2: he's attacking orwellian language, which is fine, but hes calling it 'political correctness', which is technically something else, and is therefore bashing it as a straw man pinyata
natmanprime 7 months ago
@natmanprime So what's wrong with attacking baby boomers? Carlin shits on ALL groups. He doesn't owe any group anything. And he's attacking politically correct langauage. That's what it's called.
CoolerKing37 7 months ago
@CoolerKing37 political correctness was initially dsigned to stop hateful language like calleing black people 'nigger' etc.
orwellian language is something else.
NO ONE is saying "oh my god, you shouldnt say shell shock, u should say gulf war syndrome" u can say what the fuck u want
no ones fighting that battle
its one sided, and carlins the only one fighting it u get it?
the conflation of PC with thinkspeak is rightwing
he made a conscious decision to side with baby boomers in the early 70's.
natmanprime 7 months ago
@natmanprime So your problem is really just semantics. You're just being literal and anal retentive about a comedy bit. You're like a guy who goes "Excuse me, Mr. Comedian, your assumption that asains aren't good drivers is very inaccurate. I know many asians who are quite competent behind the wheel...blah blah..." That's you. You're being a comedy hole. And quit with your "siding with the baby boomers" idea. That argument neither holds weight or makes sense.
CoolerKing37 7 months ago
@CoolerKing37 no its not equivalent
political correctness is SOMETHING ELSE
FUNDAMENTALLY
it's therefore not nitpicking
its DIFFERENT THING
how else can i say it
ffs
natmanprime 7 months ago
@natmanprime As I said: anal retentive comedy hole.
CoolerKing37 7 months ago
@CoolerKing37 why dont u take ur nose out of his asshole
try a sentence that makes coherent sense.
and stop crying angry tears over what i said
u seem to take my comment way too seriously
i cant help u if you cant understand the difference between a point of principle and nitpicking.
ha
natmanprime 7 months ago
@natmanprime Also, politically correct language covers any type of attempt at softening or watering down words to make their original intent vague and less "harmful". That's what this whole bit is about, which you don't seem to understand at all. And quit with that passive-agressive "why are you getting upset?" horseshit defense.
CoolerKing37 7 months ago
natmanprime 6 months ago
@natmanprime "political corectness= POLITENESS. MANNERS" lol, that's just silly. But going back to what I said you seem to only have a problem with semantics. You keep revising your argument with each post it's difficult to understand what you're trying to convey.
CoolerKing37 6 months ago
@CoolerKing37 no that was my point from day one, PC is *institutionalised* manners. now, my problem is, under the banner of 'PC', politeness/manners is mixing in with obfuscation. and george carlin is doing that mixing. by labelling 'obfuscation', as "PC". And theres no need FOR the phrase "PC" ANYWAY.
So NOW, because of this mixing, if u want to destroy obfuscation, you have to destroy MANNERS and POLITENESS.
cos its under the same banner
cos of carlin
or at least what he was PERPETUATING.
natmanprime 6 months ago
@natmanprime Well then why didn't you say that in the beginning? That's not at all what you originally said in your first post.
CoolerKing37 6 months ago
@CoolerKing37 quote "all this stuff he's attacking comes from the hippy bullshit that he fucking helped support and was one of the figureheads for
and no one ever really said half the stuff he's talking about anyway
so it's a big fat hypocritical comedic strawman..."
manner/politeness= hippy stuff he was a figurehead for
it was labelled "PC".
he's attacking obfuscation AND manners BY calling it PC
SO hes strawmanning PC.
and NOONES going round using PC words in real life, just on TV politics
natmanprime 6 months ago
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CoolerKing37 6 months ago
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@natmanprime None of that is what you said in your original post. And Carlin was never a figurehead for anything nor was he a hypocrite.
CoolerKing37 6 months ago
@CoolerKing37 i just QUOTED it directly wtf are u talking about r u a troll??? izzat why someone marked u as spam???
natmanprime 6 months ago
@natmanprime But your footnotes didn't match what you originally said. It's revisionist. Now get back on topic.
CoolerKing37 6 months ago
@CoolerKing37 nope u just oculdnt undderstand it first time. unless u can show me good reason and shit, i'll assume ur a troll , who i kinda expected if u look at the REST of my initial commnet.
natmanprime 6 months ago
@natmanprime Sure, call me a troll because I'm holding you accountable to your words....
CoolerKing37 5 months ago
@CoolerKing37 ur a troll becos ur contacting me 3 WEEKS LATER
fuck SAKE its OVER
whats WRONG with u
FUCK OFF you FREAK
natmanprime 5 months ago
@natmanprime Sorry. I didn't know there was a time quota on replying to someone on YouTube. Christ, you're a fucking baby.
CoolerKing37 5 months ago
@CoolerKing37 get off carlins dick and get off mine
natmanprime 5 months ago
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CoolerKing37 5 months ago
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@natmanprime Yeah, just go through life without any challenges like the pampered, elitist faggot you are. Eat a bullet.
CoolerKing37 5 months ago
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@CoolerKing37 get off carlins dick and get off mine
natmanprime 5 months ago
@natmanprime also, he wasn't an appointed figurehead by anyone AT ALL. he did all of what he did for the teaching people the reality of life (from little things to the big world) through comedy. he LOVED to describe how things are rather than how they should be or ought to be. and he had no business in fixing ANY of it.
qpSubZeroqp 5 months ago
@CoolerKing37 i agree with ya. natmanprime doesn't get it, and doesn't understand carlin's way.
qpSubZeroqp 5 months ago
@natmanprime and yes there are people crazy enough like you mentioned to censor. for example, the perfect case is the reverend that ended up complaining because he didn't switch to a different channel on the radio when carlin was a radio host and said some "bad" words. which was a case that ended up all the way up to the supreme court, and ended up losing to them. that is where, and a reason why tv and radio are now censored to the extent that they are, rather than everything bring unrestricted.
qpSubZeroqp 5 months ago
@natmanprime he used to like the people around him when the hippie movement was happening because mostly everyone was against the institution, and against a lot of things that were worth being against, but now that they have children and a family, most of those same people "went from 'Love is all you need' to 'Whoever winds up with the most toys wins,' and they went from cocaine to Rogaine
watch?v=BntoHO2e3yY&feature=fvwrel
watch from 1:40 and i hope you can see what i mean and what he means
qpSubZeroqp 5 months ago
@natmanprime lol you're an idiot..
qpSubZeroqp 5 months ago
@qpSubZeroqp wow u call me an idiot and then expect me to read ur fking essay and watch some shitLOL
i think u r some kind of psycho.
u c, i'm not like u; i don't respond nicely to abuse
run back to ur gay little 'we luv carlin' club and suck on your friend's dick
and get off mine
natmanprime 5 months ago
@natmanprime lol Think whatever you like, do whatever you like the information is still here.
and being called idiot affects you that much? damn.. i guess like you implied (i do respond nicely to abuse, as to you don't). didn't call you anything else. and i'd suck off carlin's old wrinkly balls any day of the week if he was alive, than to even see yours.
P.S.: there's no such club, my comments were no real essays (was just catching up to your own long ass comments from before)
qpSubZeroqp 5 months ago
@natmanprime lol Think whatever you like, do whatever you like the information is still here.
and being called idiot affects you that much? damn.. i guess like you implied (i do respond nicely to abuse, as to you don't). didn't call you anything else. and i'd suck off carlin's old wrinkly balls any day of the week if he was alive, than to even see yours.
P.S.: there's no such club, my comments were no real essays (was just catching up to your own long ass comments from before)
qpSubZeroqp 5 months ago
@qpSubZeroqp u respond nicely to abuse. and thats what makes u a bitch.
well done now once AGAIN, get off my dick.
...btw just cos i mentioned my dick doesnt give u permission to fantasise about it just FUCK OFF
natmanprime 4 months ago
@natmanprime lol mr funny guy. i may be a bitch, but at least i'm a well informed bitch unlike your pretentious, and pompous self. go learn a thing or two before you start making uninformed, and biased comments.
yet again, you misunderstand lol read what i said about your dick, and you'll realize it's the opposite of what you have in that petty little mind of yours. (and yes i mean petty not pretty. you'd probably misunderstand that too judging by the way you present yourself)
qpSubZeroqp 4 months ago
@qpSubZeroqp why don't u find a boyfriend
instead of wasting ur time in such a pathetic way trying to chat up/harass straight people on YT?
...or did i misunderstand?
natmanprime 4 months ago
@natmanprime wasn't harassing (at first). was only trying to get you to get your facts straight, but your poor attitude keeps you from allowing that to happen. meh whatever. and say what you want think what you want. i can't and won't shut you up. that's the beauty of the internet. i'm done
qpSubZeroqp 4 months ago
"In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king..."
All of them could be blind, but one can say he can see (but he can't), and no one will ever know... Don't know why but it kinda reminds me religion...
JustARandomGuy95 1 year ago
But slow is a "PC" euphamism too. As is "execution" (which has the literally meaning of "carrying out") instead of "murder" and even things we'd now consider crude like "Dick" instead of "penis". This isn't a reflection of any current state of society, that's just how it's always been and how it will always be. Words take on negative connotations over time and people eventually feel bad about this and feel the need to use something that they think won't have this same stigma attached.
GrandHighGamer 1 year ago
political correctness is nothing but a bunch of leftist hippy liberal bullshit, and dont go calling me right winged cuz fuck the right
KoopasRevengeHome 1 year ago
Political correctness is for politicians. I am not a politician, so i will not be politically correct. So screw those fat retards.
jackbenimble8855251 1 year ago
My only issue is why is he saying liberals? as if conservatives have no politically correct vocabulary
sov6rulz 1 year ago
@sov6rulz because conservatives dont worry about offending so much. seriously. watch fox news.
Beatles4ever4774 1 year ago
@Beatles4ever4774 Surely there must be a happy medium?
sov6rulz 1 year ago
@Beatles4ever4774 Surely there must be a happy medium?
sov6rulz 1 year ago
@sov6rulz
Because that's how liberals talk.
5jerry1 7 months ago
Lol Politicians should be called linguistic rapists.
GoodyWillPwnJ00 1 year ago
LOL @ A raped victim being referred to as an "unwilling sperm recipient."
Hanahleia 1 year ago 22
there are stupid kids, thats not mean saying it cuz when i was a kid i knew that other kids were stupid in school as well
44eelz 1 year ago
it ain't over till the fat lady sings!
Cellsolid 1 year ago 2
if we can be viewed as a "lookist" how longis it going to be before a person who didnt like who they slept with or said to them "Ive had better" could be called a "fuckist"
03KERMIT 1 year ago
I've heard Dr. Phil once refer to a child molester as someone with "control issues" how evasive is that?!
SockbatReplica 1 year ago 21
@SockbatReplica Are you serious? You know what, FUCK DR. PHILL. That bald fucking asshole, can't stand that fuck.
Pekeno201 7 months ago
Intelligent. Very thinkable.
MrRolandX 1 year ago 4