Mikey Block Insulated Concrete Form (ICF) Wet Set Pour

[SuperConcreter]

the concrete pump hose should,nt have a steel coupler on the end.....if the hose gets kinked , the hose end could fly back, hitting the worker ....lights fucking out

[CaptainNensho]

45 - 55 mins into the job my ass! how long did it take you to dig that trench you fucking moron!!!

[farstarfilm]

@CaptainNensho think he was talking about laying top block down not trench hole

[Fullyinvlved]

ICF walls outperform any traditional wall systems out there... the system theyre using in this video arent like systems i have used, search for Reward Wall Systems, i have worked with them and they are amazing

[crazyDOORcom]

Interesting.

[ronniegaylord]

they set them wet because they can not pour a stemwall level.

[desertr0se2007]

I'm in the process of purchasing an ICF home.

[hops152688]

i noticed that they never used a vibrator when they poured the footer. just my two pennies.

[pinecrestwoods]

Unofornaio sounds like he's not open to new ideas. At the end, the narrator says they're 45-50 minutes in. Hmm.. footing poor and 1st course set in under an hour makes sense. As far as block movement, these are light, and that's why there's a string. Why the emotional tie to setting block the antique way? Slow (waiting for set-up, mixing mortar, etc.), messy, heavy and wasteful. Leveling traditional block is not rocket science, either. Thanks for the video!

[mustards12s]

You can't beat the speed of a traditional build.. Also poored walls are ugly. Block is faster, cleaner, greener, more r-value, simpler, and there is way more than leveling to laying a block.. Plumb, straight, alignment, reinforcement.. How would one run a conduit inside these poored walls..?? I am not against new methods or materials, but some things are tried and true..peace

[luvmyctd]

@mustards12s Concrete blocks are a joke imo and don't even compare to a solid poured concrete steel-reinforced wall or ICF. Blocks have no lateral support, walls of any length always crack, they are too expensive to lay anymore, etc etc. The only reason anyone uses block here anymore is because they are easier than a solid poured wall. Now, keep in mind I'm a builder in Canada where frost, expansion & contraction (-30C to +30C) wreak havoc and we build on bedrock with 50 to 80 steps most times.

[mustards12s]

@luvmyctd I am doing the take-off for bidding a new school that will be using the ICF's. ICF's are in masonry package, but bid seperate. I will have a better idea on the icf's if we get the job. I am hesitant on the bid because I prefer that we build our own back-up. How accurate are the ICF's.. tollerance spec on the face brick is less than 1/4" in ten feet. Hope they are plumb... I will let ya know. This job could be a game changer. Its over 200,000 brick, all ICF back-up.

[luvmyctd]

@mustards12s The ICFs are as accurate as any other product. There are a lot of different manufacturers out there now though ... I would stick with one that is proven. Building plumb walls is like every other type of building system ... it's up to the crew ... the ICFs are square. You build your corners and work to the center (or an opening) so plumb is actually somewhat adjustable. Level is all based on how level you begin at the footing. Like anything else, a little experience goes a long way.

[Unofornaio]

this is the way guys that do not know how to lay block do it.. We setting is for idiots. ever try to really level a row of blocks on wet or un set concrete? each block moves the next..

[NSResponder]

They're not laying blocks, they're setting forms.

-jcr

[YATES001]

Intresting, in England im only used to the pour, then we build off foundations when concrete set, but this is a good way of doing it and quick, but i should imagine there can be little room for error?. Just curious how much would i earn in the states as a qualified bricklayer & Groundworker? thanks guys

[notfireproofequipped]

I'm not from the states, but here in Ontario Canada the typical journeyman bricklayer in the union would make around 33$ hourly

[YATES001]

Thanks for your reply, im not sure i like the idea of how these guys are constructing the wall, but i've never done it. Is this the way you do things in canada too? or do you do traditional building ib building of footings after they are set off thanks...

[notfireproofequipped]

typically we do a traditional pour and build from there like you said. I've never seen the method in this video for myself, however I'm sure it 's used here as well..not very common though

[mustards12s]

As a Union Bricklayer in local 55 Ohio, my total package is about $35-$36 per hour. If you go non union, maybe $20.

[GunSportsman22]

Don't you mean LAZY bricklayer?

I bet he replies, but he will be on his lunch break for another week.

[mustards12s]

Thats just a stigma, my crew works very hard, hard enough to keep our contractors in business, and pay premium wages to the guys doing the work.. We work our dicks in the dirt.. What do you do?

[GunSportsman22]

I am a mason. Unions had their place at one time, but no longer. They have worn out their usefulness. A worker is not necessarily "deserving" of a good wage. Unions have led their followers to believe they are "entitled" to a better wage and a better life.

When I was 17 I was a grunt for a GC. I would do odd jobs on the site. One of the Union workers told me to go get an extension cord and told me not to come back for another hour, just because he thought everyone was working too hard.