While I am not impressed with this post-war, Kansas City style blues singing here, which was not Ma Rainey's forte, I do LOVE the look and feel of this period piece, it's fantastic; ersm, where did you get the costumes, actors and location, can you post more of the film piece, would love to see more; thanks! Ma Rainey & Papa Charlie Jackson-"Big Feelin' Blues" (Paramount Records)---Ma & Pa rock!!!
Wow Rosemary, I love this. It's really creative. I love this period piece. Girl, I've been wondering what you and John are up to. I'm still in Ghana and doing my own music thing, but I'm proud of you. Don't let know body tell you this is not good. It's wonderful! Love y'all, Toni (Billups-Randall) Manieson
It has been awhile since I looked at this and now I can more clearly see the disconnect: Rosemary is too young and pretty to have had the kind of blues Ma sings about. Rosemary is dressed more like Billie Holiday with the flowers in her hair, unlike Ma, whose hair was wild, wearing---covered in diamonds, accented by gold pieces, etc., you get the picture. I have Ma's original Paramount 78s, including her very first one, Bo Weavil Blues, just do not know how to upload, give everyone the real Ma.
"Rosemary Rainey recreates the role of her Grandmother Ma Rainey..." These are the words in your text. My original comments were directed that; aside from the totally different look and dress of the 2 Raineys, this "modern" blues performance here has no comparision to Ma's pre/post war blues. That being said, Rosemary's performance, with the Ma recreation concept taken out, is quite good. Rosemary would have been a big urban blues star in the 40-50s on Chess, Savoy, VJ, even Trumpet Records.
I question the Rainey's having children also, and I find a couple of sources that say she DID have children. See below from wikipedia
She married fellow vaudeville singer William "Pa" Rainey in 1904, billing herself from that point as "Ma" Rainey. She later had an unknown number of children, one being Clyde Rainey, who served in the US Navy. "Ma and Pa" pair toured with the Rabbit Foot Minstrels as "Rainey & Rainey, Assassinators of the Blues", singing a mix of blues and popular songs.
Also the style is more in line with the recording of this song made by Trixie Smith with Sidney Bechet and Sammy Price on the piano in 1939, than anything than Ma Rainey would have sang. It is a nice look back at a song and a style that I love. You are correct as Trixie Smith who recorded this song definitely had a more urban style and Ma's was earthy and rooted in a more country sound.
@KojiRecords Well said indeed sir. This was not even possible nor probable. Further more including such rubbish for dramatic effect is more insulting than entertaining. My great grandmother grew up with Ma rainey and Nanny never sung any songs like this. Much diff style all the way around. Who does this stuff? Research tells a much diff story.
Very true, Ma had no children; here is what I just found on the net: "Ma was highly respected by musicians and greatly loved by her audiences. As part of her generous nature she was the foster mother to seven children." This wannabe granddaughter cannot dare to compare herself to the great Getrude Melissa Pridgett aka Madame Ma Rainey---in talent or lineage.
MR=older, RR=younger; MR=contralto, RR=alto; MR=pretty, RR=prettier; MR=old, hokum, blues; RR=modern, R & B, KC jazz; MR=the Mother of the Blues, RR=is RR and extremely talented but a misnomer when compared to MR; RR has much more in common with female Savoy Records stars of the 40-60s than Paramount legends of the 20s. RR=keeps her own sound, using the same kind of band, does originals=America's new, modern R & B-blues-jazz sensation. RR's "challenge," as Left Eye would say, dig? Lates.
That's not Ma Rainey, it is the wonderful Rosemary Rainey. This is from a film I directed entitled "Travelin' Trains" It was made to evoke the period, a story of a boy searching for his blues playing guitarist, I guess we did a good job.
@ersm Really..you did this? Cool, wish my great grandmother was alive to see this. My great grams was borne in Rome Ga in 1900 and had two pictures with Ma Rainey and her hubby, one in what looked like a dressing room with a throw rug on the wall and 6 men and instruments and her smiling...the other was a picture of Ma or someone who looked alot like her posing in front of a horse and carrage with her in a large winter coat. WoW this is her daughter....very cool
This is a nod to jazz great Mary Lou Williams' childhood recollection of "sneaking into a theatre" and catching a black vaudeville programme, in which Ma Rainey was the headlining act. Williams said Ma came out loaded with diamonds, real ones; her hair was real wild, adding "What a sight!" Thanks to esrm for including these guys who, as you expertly stated, could not get into or afford admission to the club, therefore they had to "sneak in," as Williams had done in the 1920's. Ma Rainey rocks!
What a treasure. Off too look up the movie now.
zenmeadow 10 months ago
@zenmeadow TravelinTrains(dot)com
ersm 9 months ago
@zenmeadow TravelinTrains(dot)com
ersm 9 months ago
Can't anybody just hit the "Like" button and not spew stupid ass comments?
I'm just a random viewer, but this took a lot of work and love. Nice job!
Oooops, I guess I'm guilty of what I just complained about.
TexasMist 1 year ago 3
awesome blues
jdh196200 2 years ago 3
awesome..!!!
timey8881 2 years ago
Love It !
dmljm2 2 years ago
I just love it!! Would like to have lyrics that I cannot find on the webb. Please help me to get it, thankful lidia from Stockholm
ijavikica 2 years ago
Hey :) Here are the complete lyrics, not everything is in this video:
1. I hate to hear that freight train blow whoo-whoo!
I hate to hear that freight train blow whoo-whoo!
Ev'ry time I hear it blowin'
I feel like ridin' too
2. I asked the brakeman to let me ride the blind
Yes I asked the brakeman to let me ride the blind
He said: "Little girlie, you know this train ain't mine."
3. That's a mean old fireman, cruel old engineer
Mean old fireman, cruel old engineer..
evanescencelady 2 years ago
Thank you, evanescencelady...I appreciate your sending me the text...
ijavikica 2 years ago
just search trixie smith freight train blues lyrics first link on google is it
thedevilssympathy 2 years ago
Thank you so much, Thedevilssympathy!!! ijavikica
ijavikica 2 years ago
Hey there,
Just downloaded your film the other days, love it! really nice feel to it.
Thanks.
check out our trailer for our Blues Documentary series(Jusrt sent you a video response.)
Sean.
echofilms 2 years ago
grrrreat song ;]
tosyu 2 years ago
This is my song...
butchiesbrat 3 years ago
great quality, real nice
tankayank 3 years ago
My dad (Butch Trivette) played "The Snowman" in this movie, and this was one of my favorite scenes...I just love it.
nicoleakalilqueenie 3 years ago 2
nice post...thnx
gbail9566 3 years ago
awesomw
bbkk2234 3 years ago
While I am not impressed with this post-war, Kansas City style blues singing here, which was not Ma Rainey's forte, I do LOVE the look and feel of this period piece, it's fantastic; ersm, where did you get the costumes, actors and location, can you post more of the film piece, would love to see more; thanks! Ma Rainey & Papa Charlie Jackson-"Big Feelin' Blues" (Paramount Records)---Ma & Pa rock!!!
KojiRecords 4 years ago
Thank you so much. You can see the whole film at Caachi(dot)com/members/ersm/travelin_trains
More info at TravelinTrains(dot)com
ersm 3 years ago
Wow Rosemary, I love this. It's really creative. I love this period piece. Girl, I've been wondering what you and John are up to. I'm still in Ghana and doing my own music thing, but I'm proud of you. Don't let know body tell you this is not good. It's wonderful! Love y'all, Toni (Billups-Randall) Manieson
jazztoni 6 months ago
Couldn't have said it better. Cool video, but it could have as well been about anyone else.
dav8d777 3 years ago
It has been awhile since I looked at this and now I can more clearly see the disconnect: Rosemary is too young and pretty to have had the kind of blues Ma sings about. Rosemary is dressed more like Billie Holiday with the flowers in her hair, unlike Ma, whose hair was wild, wearing---covered in diamonds, accented by gold pieces, etc., you get the picture. I have Ma's original Paramount 78s, including her very first one, Bo Weavil Blues, just do not know how to upload, give everyone the real Ma.
KojiRecords 3 years ago 2
No one said we were trying to make it about Ma Rainey.
ersm 2 years ago
"Rosemary Rainey recreates the role of her Grandmother Ma Rainey..." These are the words in your text. My original comments were directed that; aside from the totally different look and dress of the 2 Raineys, this "modern" blues performance here has no comparision to Ma's pre/post war blues. That being said, Rosemary's performance, with the Ma recreation concept taken out, is quite good. Rosemary would have been a big urban blues star in the 40-50s on Chess, Savoy, VJ, even Trumpet Records.
KojiRecords 2 years ago
I question the Rainey's having children also, and I find a couple of sources that say she DID have children. See below from wikipedia
She married fellow vaudeville singer William "Pa" Rainey in 1904, billing herself from that point as "Ma" Rainey. She later had an unknown number of children, one being Clyde Rainey, who served in the US Navy. "Ma and Pa" pair toured with the Rabbit Foot Minstrels as "Rainey & Rainey, Assassinators of the Blues", singing a mix of blues and popular songs.
mgmstlmo 2 years ago
Also the style is more in line with the recording of this song made by Trixie Smith with Sidney Bechet and Sammy Price on the piano in 1939, than anything than Ma Rainey would have sang. It is a nice look back at a song and a style that I love. You are correct as Trixie Smith who recorded this song definitely had a more urban style and Ma's was earthy and rooted in a more country sound.
mgmstlmo 2 years ago
@KojiRecords Well said indeed sir. This was not even possible nor probable. Further more including such rubbish for dramatic effect is more insulting than entertaining. My great grandmother grew up with Ma rainey and Nanny never sung any songs like this. Much diff style all the way around. Who does this stuff? Research tells a much diff story.
bakedsushi 11 months ago
loved it! thanks
Oldboblues 4 years ago
this is better then ma raineyin my opinion
hollythicket 4 years ago
No it's not Ma Rainey, it's nothing like Ma Rainey and it ain't Ma Rainey's granddaughter either - Ma Rainey had no children.
alberich520 4 years ago
Very true, Ma had no children; here is what I just found on the net: "Ma was highly respected by musicians and greatly loved by her audiences. As part of her generous nature she was the foster mother to seven children." This wannabe granddaughter cannot dare to compare herself to the great Getrude Melissa Pridgett aka Madame Ma Rainey---in talent or lineage.
KojiRecords 4 years ago
um yea it is because i played ma rainey
bbkk2234 3 years ago 2
MR=older, RR=younger; MR=contralto, RR=alto; MR=pretty, RR=prettier; MR=old, hokum, blues; RR=modern, R & B, KC jazz; MR=the Mother of the Blues, RR=is RR and extremely talented but a misnomer when compared to MR; RR has much more in common with female Savoy Records stars of the 40-60s than Paramount legends of the 20s. RR=keeps her own sound, using the same kind of band, does originals=America's new, modern R & B-blues-jazz sensation. RR's "challenge," as Left Eye would say, dig? Lates.
KojiRecords 3 years ago
het swingt de pan uit; marttinus
Marttinus 4 years ago
That's not Ma Rainey, it is the wonderful Rosemary Rainey. This is from a film I directed entitled "Travelin' Trains" It was made to evoke the period, a story of a boy searching for his blues playing guitarist, I guess we did a good job.
ersm 4 years ago
yes, you did a good job alright. can you tell me if rosemary rainey is a relation of ma rainey? thanks.
yqzaa 4 years ago
@ersm Really..you did this? Cool, wish my great grandmother was alive to see this. My great grams was borne in Rome Ga in 1900 and had two pictures with Ma Rainey and her hubby, one in what looked like a dressing room with a throw rug on the wall and 6 men and instruments and her smiling...the other was a picture of Ma or someone who looked alot like her posing in front of a horse and carrage with her in a large winter coat. WoW this is her daughter....very cool
bakedsushi 11 months ago
I thinks she was the best female blues singer.
Laura
ljhyahoocom 4 years ago
You should watch the movie bandrunner :)
nicoleakalilqueenie 4 years ago
That's very cool! Who are those guys looking through the bars? I guess they could'nt afford to get in to the club
bandrunner57 4 years ago
This is a nod to jazz great Mary Lou Williams' childhood recollection of "sneaking into a theatre" and catching a black vaudeville programme, in which Ma Rainey was the headlining act. Williams said Ma came out loaded with diamonds, real ones; her hair was real wild, adding "What a sight!" Thanks to esrm for including these guys who, as you expertly stated, could not get into or afford admission to the club, therefore they had to "sneak in," as Williams had done in the 1920's. Ma Rainey rocks!
KojiRecords 3 years ago
That's the Blues
Vernuft 4 years ago
more please
rogerdarwen 5 years ago
Ma rainy my my my sing yo soul
kenyaqueen 5 years ago