Ok, you heard it, folks, show's over: No matter what we do, we're screwed. Let's fold our hands in our laps, drive our SUVs and wait for Jesus to return to earth.
I know nothing of the cap and trade bill. but I know CO2 and other gasses are fucking up our planet, as a heavier then O2 it effects our oceans first, it displaces oxygen which sea life or you and I breathe, concerned about mercury/arsenic/lead think coal, shit people get freaked out by a flu shot which has no mercury in it, its a fucking chicken egg and only good refrigerated for 3 months
Vehicles today emit less than 1/3 the emissions that they did 50 years ago. Technology has made enormous strides at reducing the carbon output.
Secondly, there is NO information to show that "global warming" is a threat to mankind. None.
You care about the planet? Do you really care? Then stop destroying forests to build more homes. Stop building more and more and more. The country is turning into a cesspool.
All AGW believers are idiots.... How does reducing all emissions stop climate change.
The climate changes all the time because we simply live on active planet. We have very little stake in our climate. Copenhagen or any other government sham will not stop hurricanes from forming, volcanoes from erupting, and the temperature from changing.
Think for yourselves. We live on an active planet. That's it.
Of course, I don't think many economists actually endorse the lofty goals in cap and trade legislation today. I mean, 83% reductions in emissions in just 40 years??? Unless our technology innovates 10fold in just the next 40 years, it's not happening. It's just not possible. Who told Obama or Waxman that 83% of all our carbon emissions can be reduced in just 40 years? I mean, Kyoto hasn't had much success in Europe! Only a few countries are close to meeting their goals.
The ones REALLY hurt by cap and trade would be small businesses. Big business will adapt to the new costs. After all, wasn't it big business over the years that's invested in efficient anti-pollution technologies on its own to reduce emissions?? They'll have even more incentive to do it and pass the credits onto other businesses that are having a harder time. Cap and trade is perhaps the most cost-effective of the anti-global warming regimes proposed right now.
I mean, Europe has had cap and trade with some success, after all. It's not some socialist scheme or any other nonsense that Larry Kudlow wants us to believe. Or the other idiots. Cap-and-trade is a MARKET-BASED anti-emissions effort! We can debate on the merits of it, but we should at least get the basics down. But one thing that's not debatable is the fact that the 'job losses' or 'rising energy costs' from it will be much lower, esp. with the credits and refunds n such, than some say.
I've only met one professor at my university who isn't sure global warming is man-made. But even he says that climate change is real and a threat and that human industry is not helping the situation. Inhofe is an anti-science, pro-industry shill.
These people will grasp for straws and find any, ANY, "piece of evidence" they can find within a moment's notice to support their case and try to 'debunk' AGW. It doesn't matter if it's right or not. As long as there's only speculation, they can cruise along and claim they were right. And thousands if not hundreds of thousands or millions of scientists who've researched this are somehow TOTALLY WRONG. Uh... sure.
I wouldn't read too much into Climategate. If all the denier conservatives latch onto something like this, you know it's probably full of hot air, and they're just being opportunists yet again. What EVIDENCE does Senator Inhofe have that global warming is "a hoax"? Look at the list of scientific organizations that agree that AGW is real!! Vs. those who disagree. And take out from those who disagree the ones who are funded or supported by industry. Then it's a much smaller debate.
Why doesn't Inhofe just admit that global warming is, at least PARTIALLY, man-made? Can he at least agree to that and work on real solution sto the problem instead of obstructing and lying? And using sources like climategate or Fox News as sources of "real science".
The global warming deniers think they've got the researchers and scientists in a hole b/c of this. HA! Look up climategate, esp. on wiki, and you'll find tons of references and information showing that it's much more complex than they make it seem. It's not just a bunch of climate researchers all banding together in some conspiracy to defraud the public. I mean, there are 1000s, if not millions, of emails there. Some of those they deliberately take out of context, too.
@whoo689 Hijacked environmentalism for "CARBON CREDITS" is what "climate gate" is about. Stop shilling the neocon fascist agenda.
It's TREASON and we need waterboarding we can believe in.
Maybe you can explain what was on the 300 pages added, at 3 AM the morning of the vote, on the "cap in trade/carbon tax" legislation? Most likely, you paid no attention, like the rest.
I'm a libertarian, perhaps the furthest thing from a neocon. Besides, aren't conservatives closer to neocons ideologically? Aren't GW deniers typically conservative?
How the hell is it treason to try to fix the environment and reduce emissions? Waterboarding of scientists?? Reminds me of the persecution of Galileo by the Church.
I don't know, and it really doesn't matter. Cap and trade's effects will be much more modest, according to any realistic study, than the skeptics claim.
an investigation?? Into what?? People allegedly lying and manipulating the facts for global warming?
Uh, Inhofe, last I checked, it's not illegal to lie. It may be immoral, corrupt, you name it, but it's not against the LAW. So stop this bs. YOu're gonna waste our time.
fine fuck global warming, how bout air and water quality?? that's not a good reason to lower emissions?? increases in respiratory illnesses and water poisoning??
It's not carbon emissions causing the the problem with air quality. There is an issue and the technology has been suppressed. Want to make a difference? Put solar panels on your house, the technology is there to provide more than enough power to run an entire household. This cost of this is very little and in the long term you save. Buy electric car, the technology has been here for 20 years but only now starting to see. Watch who killed the electric car. We dont need another TAX
that's what I've been saying for years - even if you don't believe that emissions are raising the planet's temperature, surely no one can think that pumping crap into our atmosphere can be a good thing. Not to mention, finite fuels are called that because they are finite - we're going to have to change energy sources at some point, why not start a gradual change now rather than having our hand forced further down the road.
In other words, an absolute hero in the organized criminal syndicate that it known as the republican party. Raping, throwing tantrums, destroying, stealing, ravaging, murdering and still in control of much of our government.
America is fucked up.
jmjfanss 2 years ago
Global Warming is caused by Politicians.
blt40 2 years ago
Inhofe is a stud.
jag10 2 years ago
phil jones is hiding in the hills of tora bora
jag10 2 years ago
Ok, you heard it, folks, show's over: No matter what we do, we're screwed. Let's fold our hands in our laps, drive our SUVs and wait for Jesus to return to earth.
hyperseauton 2 years ago
I know nothing of the cap and trade bill. but I know CO2 and other gasses are fucking up our planet, as a heavier then O2 it effects our oceans first, it displaces oxygen which sea life or you and I breathe, concerned about mercury/arsenic/lead think coal, shit people get freaked out by a flu shot which has no mercury in it, its a fucking chicken egg and only good refrigerated for 3 months
sx200ser 2 years ago
Inhofe is an ignorant tool.
sngrmnsthsm 2 years ago
blink, blink , blink, blink, blink, blink, blink,
blink, blink, blink , blink blink, blink....
VeritasAmantesVocat 2 years ago
I would at least get out my telescope.
TheElefaunt 2 years ago
Vehicles today emit less than 1/3 the emissions that they did 50 years ago. Technology has made enormous strides at reducing the carbon output.
Secondly, there is NO information to show that "global warming" is a threat to mankind. None.
You care about the planet? Do you really care? Then stop destroying forests to build more homes. Stop building more and more and more. The country is turning into a cesspool.
Pvtjamesryan2 2 years ago
All AGW believers are idiots.... How does reducing all emissions stop climate change.
The climate changes all the time because we simply live on active planet. We have very little stake in our climate. Copenhagen or any other government sham will not stop hurricanes from forming, volcanoes from erupting, and the temperature from changing.
Think for yourselves. We live on an active planet. That's it.
BigBoss1991 2 years ago
We don't need to reduce emissions. We need to reverse emissions. We need to start taking this pollution out of the air, this pollution we put there.
BlackKingX 2 years ago 4
Why don't you go out there and inhale all of it and die Mr. Tough Guy.
iFixComputer 2 years ago
Even Kyoto only says that member nations have to reduce emissions to 1990levels. Not a whopping 83%.
whoo689 2 years ago 2
Of course, I don't think many economists actually endorse the lofty goals in cap and trade legislation today. I mean, 83% reductions in emissions in just 40 years??? Unless our technology innovates 10fold in just the next 40 years, it's not happening. It's just not possible. Who told Obama or Waxman that 83% of all our carbon emissions can be reduced in just 40 years? I mean, Kyoto hasn't had much success in Europe! Only a few countries are close to meeting their goals.
whoo689 2 years ago
The ones REALLY hurt by cap and trade would be small businesses. Big business will adapt to the new costs. After all, wasn't it big business over the years that's invested in efficient anti-pollution technologies on its own to reduce emissions?? They'll have even more incentive to do it and pass the credits onto other businesses that are having a harder time. Cap and trade is perhaps the most cost-effective of the anti-global warming regimes proposed right now.
whoo689 2 years ago
I mean, Europe has had cap and trade with some success, after all. It's not some socialist scheme or any other nonsense that Larry Kudlow wants us to believe. Or the other idiots. Cap-and-trade is a MARKET-BASED anti-emissions effort! We can debate on the merits of it, but we should at least get the basics down. But one thing that's not debatable is the fact that the 'job losses' or 'rising energy costs' from it will be much lower, esp. with the credits and refunds n such, than some say.
whoo689 2 years ago
I've only met one professor at my university who isn't sure global warming is man-made. But even he says that climate change is real and a threat and that human industry is not helping the situation. Inhofe is an anti-science, pro-industry shill.
kevmo99 2 years ago 2
iNHOFE" Who you gonna believe me or your lying eyes" What an Idiot,
sjcpal 2 years ago
These people will grasp for straws and find any, ANY, "piece of evidence" they can find within a moment's notice to support their case and try to 'debunk' AGW. It doesn't matter if it's right or not. As long as there's only speculation, they can cruise along and claim they were right. And thousands if not hundreds of thousands or millions of scientists who've researched this are somehow TOTALLY WRONG. Uh... sure.
whoo689 2 years ago
I wouldn't read too much into Climategate. If all the denier conservatives latch onto something like this, you know it's probably full of hot air, and they're just being opportunists yet again. What EVIDENCE does Senator Inhofe have that global warming is "a hoax"? Look at the list of scientific organizations that agree that AGW is real!! Vs. those who disagree. And take out from those who disagree the ones who are funded or supported by industry. Then it's a much smaller debate.
whoo689 2 years ago 2
Why doesn't Inhofe just admit that global warming is, at least PARTIALLY, man-made? Can he at least agree to that and work on real solution sto the problem instead of obstructing and lying? And using sources like climategate or Fox News as sources of "real science".
whoo689 2 years ago 2
The global warming deniers think they've got the researchers and scientists in a hole b/c of this. HA! Look up climategate, esp. on wiki, and you'll find tons of references and information showing that it's much more complex than they make it seem. It's not just a bunch of climate researchers all banding together in some conspiracy to defraud the public. I mean, there are 1000s, if not millions, of emails there. Some of those they deliberately take out of context, too.
whoo689 2 years ago
@whoo689 Hijacked environmentalism for "CARBON CREDITS" is what "climate gate" is about. Stop shilling the neocon fascist agenda.
It's TREASON and we need waterboarding we can believe in.
Maybe you can explain what was on the 300 pages added, at 3 AM the morning of the vote, on the "cap in trade/carbon tax" legislation? Most likely, you paid no attention, like the rest.
bigc028282 2 years ago
I'm a libertarian, perhaps the furthest thing from a neocon. Besides, aren't conservatives closer to neocons ideologically? Aren't GW deniers typically conservative?
How the hell is it treason to try to fix the environment and reduce emissions? Waterboarding of scientists?? Reminds me of the persecution of Galileo by the Church.
I don't know, and it really doesn't matter. Cap and trade's effects will be much more modest, according to any realistic study, than the skeptics claim.
whoo689 2 years ago
@whoo689 I call SHENANIGANS on your troll/shill account! I like that statement at the top of your page. It makes perfect sense.
bigc028282 2 years ago
Shenanigans for wut? I don't quite follow.
whoo689 2 years ago
an investigation?? Into what?? People allegedly lying and manipulating the facts for global warming?
Uh, Inhofe, last I checked, it's not illegal to lie. It may be immoral, corrupt, you name it, but it's not against the LAW. So stop this bs. YOu're gonna waste our time.
whoo689 2 years ago
fine fuck global warming, how bout air and water quality?? that's not a good reason to lower emissions?? increases in respiratory illnesses and water poisoning??
deveousdevil 2 years ago
It's not carbon emissions causing the the problem with air quality. There is an issue and the technology has been suppressed. Want to make a difference? Put solar panels on your house, the technology is there to provide more than enough power to run an entire household. This cost of this is very little and in the long term you save. Buy electric car, the technology has been here for 20 years but only now starting to see. Watch who killed the electric car. We dont need another TAX
optimumperformance 2 years ago
that's what I've been saying for years - even if you don't believe that emissions are raising the planet's temperature, surely no one can think that pumping crap into our atmosphere can be a good thing. Not to mention, finite fuels are called that because they are finite - we're going to have to change energy sources at some point, why not start a gradual change now rather than having our hand forced further down the road.
aduffield 2 years ago
yep, indeed.
deveousdevil 2 years ago
The flaw in the carbon tax is you have to get the World to agree. It will never happen.
jfcrow1 2 years ago
I like the fun facts at the end.
>:P
iTellYouNoLie 2 years ago
greatest money making scheme ever devised
If you want to get rid of something you dont make an industry out of it that is profit driven.
The whole thing stinks like garbage on a hot day
SaveOurSovereignty3 2 years ago
China...scheduled to consume over 50% of the Worlds Coal use...has anyone informed China that they will be taxed if they do not reduce?
good luck.
helltrackrider 2 years ago
Inhofe is not a scientist!!! He's just another rape supporter!!!! A corporate shill!!!
Zlibservacratican 2 years ago 2
In other words, an absolute hero in the organized criminal syndicate that it known as the republican party. Raping, throwing tantrums, destroying, stealing, ravaging, murdering and still in control of much of our government.
callouschristian 2 years ago
Well said !
zibbadow 2 years ago