Atkins Diet Misconceptions: Low Carb Diets and Gout

[NightRavenz78]

Thanks for the info

[cherylbirchard]

With in days of starting Atkins I noticed a dramatic change in my joints...for the better! I am able to climb stairs with very little pain in my ankles and knees. I have no doubt in my mind that eating refined processed carbs increases inflammation and we all know the dangers of inflammation in the body! I've done my own experiments and every time the same results. I'll be on Atkins for life, which I know will be a long and healthy one!

[bowulf]

@cherylbirchard What you say has been proven over and over again in studies that low carb is a anti-inflammatory diet and reduces the level of inflammation in one's joints, which is one of the reasons RA people seem to thrive on it. Congrats on achieving true health!

[ruralpotter]

@bowulf YUP! I have Lupus and used Adkins Induction diet to control the inflammation. My SED rate went from 88 to 38. My ANA has gone away. The weight loss is just a bonus for me. FYI, it took me over a week for my body to get used to very low carbs. Lots of headaches, etc. After that, I have felt pretty good.

[missmelissa73]

I have done Atkins several times. It is only this last time that I have been able to make the correlation of having joint and muscle pain directly to this diet. That being the episodes of arthritic gout pain appear only after I have been doing this kind of eating plan. The last bout being so severe I was unable to walk properly. It is only through eating vegan, lots of plant based foods that I have healed myself.

You can try and explain the science, but my experience is Atkins is dangerous!

[bowulf]

@missmelissa73 Sorry your experience differs from most people who do the diet. Heck, it is only through this diet that I was able to run and run marathons again and eliminate all life threatening conditions I had. The only thing Atkins was dangerous in my case was to my my relationship with my doctor. I saw him much less frequently afterwords although he still uses me as a poster child for what to do.

[kalburiumstormbreath]

Am I the only one that wants to just pull his fucking teeth out?

[bowulf]

@kalburiumstormbreath I am sure I have plenty of rude people who watch my videos, but they always end up in the same spot. (My block list)

[Alexkeelee]

@kalburiumstormbreath He's a fool and will probably die of heart decease or a stroke just like Mr. Atkins.

[bowulf]

@Alexkeelee I see my vegan counterparts are very open-minded. I will be watching for "heart decrease." Good luck to you.

[thespiswolf]

@Alexkeelee Umm, retard? Dr. Atkin's died of head trauma from a fall. Perhaps you should research what you are going to say BEFORE you post? The answer is YES.

[rxs10000]

@kalburiumstormbreath hahahahahaha yes. While he is awake too!!!!!

[bowulf]

@rxs10000 Ah yes, isn't time for you to go back to school. Christmas is over.

[smoothMousePad]

Trust me... get off of low carb diets ASAP. Been there, done that. While I was on Atkins I was feeling worst and weakest in my life. I was literally wasting. My muscle mass was getting dangerously low. My neck was like a pencil. Yes, I was losing fat, but I was losing everything else along with it.

[bowulf]

@smoothMousePad Well I have been on a low carb diet for 7 years now. I have never lifted more or ran longer distances than now. I have no idea what you were doing, but low carb diets have been demonstrated in multiple studies to be the most preservative of muscle mass of any diet. Check out my water weight video for the links to the studies, but your results aren't typical for most.

[monellasweeting]

@bowulf i would like to see your blood results . DR ATKINS died as as young sick man obese and heart disease come on man take advice from the people getting the results GO V V V V V EEEEEEGGGAAAAAAANNNNN !!!!!!!!!!! ps i could out do you in any sport you name it!

[bowulf]

@monellasweeting I have posted my blood results in multiple videos. Dr. Atkins died in his 70s (young man?) of slipping on the ice. I think losing 211 pounds might just qualify me as "people getting the results." I have no problem with you eating vegan as it lowers the demand thereby the cost for food I eat. Now if I could only get you to stop eating cauliflower / broccoli, then my whole grocery store bill would go down.

As sports, without any videos posted that is an empty challenge.

[kwstas67]

@smoothMousePad can u explain me of what u did?i havent followed low carb but they say its so cool 4 fat loss.In my opinion low carb is bullshit,but low carb for 3-5 days and then high carb low fat high protein for 1-2 days is looking good advice to me.have u tried the latter?

[smoothMousePad]

@kwstas67 I followed Atkins diet to the letter. That's it. I was weak, my body was wasting, I had a pencil neck and my eyes were falling in their sockets. My face was looking much like this dudes on the video... sucked in. I was hating life. Sure, the fat was melting, but so was everything else. YOU NEED CARBOHYDRATES. Just don't make a mistake of eating simple, refined carbs (white flour, candy, sodas, sugars...) You want complex carbs (oats, brown rice, whole breads, legumes, fruit, greens...)

[bowulf]

@smoothMousePad Well most people respond well to the Atkins Diet and claim more energy than ever before. Perhaps your electrolytes were too low, but tell me the essential carbohydrate. There are essential amino acids and essential fatty acids that the body can't produce, but there are no essential glucose. You never mentioned which phase on Atkins you progressed to.

As for how I look in this video, I think I look good, and commenting on others when you don't have your own is just ad hominem.

[Scolecite]

@smoothMousePad Clearly you were not doing low carb correctly. Sounds like you just were not eating enough. My endurance skyrocketed on low carb diet. Anyways I hope no one listens to your anecdotal experience. .

[royalt227]

ALL FORMS OF ARTHRITIS/GOUT ARE DUE TO THE CONSUMPTION OF STARCH! STARCH EATS AWAY AT ALL JOINTS AND IS A STIFFENING AGENT

[Mathildaonline]

Poeple mainly get gout from eating too much sugar and alcohol, and from having a blood ph that allows for precipitation of uric acid crystals (more acid). Grains are a well known acidifier, but so is meat.

Also, fast weight loss is a known trigger for gout attacks.

[auggiedoggy]

Beef, chicken, pork, turkey, etc are considered medium purine foods foods but people with gout are told to limit these foods. High purine foods like all organs meats and sardines, etc, should be avoided completely. If you eliminate the high purine foods and follow the standard recommendation to limit the medium purine foods you really have little left if you want to follow an Atkins diet. The only other foods you have are dairy foods which are low purine foods.

[bowulf]

@auggiedoggy Repeating what I said in the video description does not prove your point. Your point should be that eating purine foods leads to gout, and the fact is for most people without a genetic predisposition to gout it does not. In fact manipulating the purine content of one's diet has "a negligible effect on uric acid levels." The link between purine foods and uric acid in the blood is as dubious as the link between dietary cholesterol and one's lipid panels.

[auggiedoggy]

@bowulf : Please re-read what I said above. I said people WITH gout are told to eliminate high purine foods and cut back on medium purine foods. I did not say a person that doesn't have gout will necessarily get gout on the Atkins diet. My point, which you obviously missed, was that this diet would be disasterous for a person that has gout.

[bowulf]

@auggiedoggy No reread what I wrote and the video description. The efficacy of limiting the high purine foods has proven ineffectual to limiting gout. If eating the foods does not give you gout and not eating the foods does not alleviate gout, what is the problem of eating these foods? Many doctors have given up the low purine dietary response to a gout diagnosis.

Again, you misunderstand what I wrote. You have the impression that only foods Atkins followers eat are meat.

[5tonyvvvv]

@bowulf We live in a man made Toxic processed world , of Moronic doctors and pharmaceutical drugs, Gluten, dairy, meat and Sugar is poison!! Plant based is the way to go!!

[bowulf]

@5tonyvvvv I was with you up until you mentioned meat. Humans have been eating meat since the beginning. There is nothing to contradict that in our history. The others may or may not be recent additions, but certainly there refinement or overabundance is. If you choose plant-based, I am happy for you, but that is a personal choice. I have fantastic health eating rich diet of meat.

[5tonyvvvv]

@bowulf You know nothing about nutrition thats for sure! The Masai and Inuit had meat dairy based diets and died in the 50's of HEART DISEASE!! and the body produces its own B12 from a plant based diet!! I just had my B12 checked and it was 600 pg/mL and I haven't eaten any meat in 7 years!!!

[bowulf]

@5tonyvvvv That's why there are numerous reports of B12 deficient vegans. The body can store B12 for years, but you will eventually become deficient.

Good luck to you, but dude take your meat angst somewhere else.

[TrueGreatness73]

@5tonyvvvv Excuse me but the Okinawa people are known to live up to their 100's and they definitely have meat in their diet so I guess its safe to say that if the Inuit people really do die in their 50's like its been reported by mainstream you can assume its not from the meat itself and more likely the living conditions. You have not ate meat in 7 years and probably never tried the Atkins diet and if that is so how can you talk about it like that? I am perfectly healthy and stick to Atkins!!

[KorionDotNet]

@TrueGreatness73 And that's a wise choice! I'm gonna stick to strict paleo paleo (70% fat :D). Finally no skin issues anymore, no gout, no allergies, no colds, no ANYTHING!!! I hope you will continue to do fine :), but I'm sure you will.

[simonmarkholland]

@5tonyvvvv Milk contains lactose which is a form of carbohydrates, and a hard to process protein. Its more likely the dairy caused the issues. Recent excavations in the North of England found a chieftains house with stores of food underneath, there were 90+ types of leafy vegetables (many of which no longer eaten), no high carb /starchy vegetables which means the only reliable energy source was derived from animal fat.

[5tonyvvvv]

@bowulf Meat is Acidic!!! If you want an alkaline body you need to avoid it! Plant based is best! Humans are designed to digest plants not meat! Its even biblical, Heart disease is from Meat and Dairy!! its proven! Go visit your local hospital and see the death beds! and after suffering 2 heart attacks, I have given up meat! You get plenty of plant protein anyway which is cleaner, also amino acids from fruits and veggies go strait to the muscles, dont believe the Meat Myth!

[bowulf]

@5tonyvvvv Sorry, you're wrong. As for Biblical, how do you explain Jesus telling Peter "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat (animals). ” (Acts 10) Many other times in the Bible it tells His followers to eat meat. God even sends birds for his followers to eat.

Heart disease is not from meat or dairy. My cholesterol has dropped 50 points. Before your 2 heart attacks, how much grain were you eating? How much sugar were you eating?

[bowulf]

@5tonyvvvv Sorry you've given up one myth for another one... Plus why would I want to give up a varied diet of all sorts of foods for a limited diet that requires supplementation (B12) to be healthy.

[kwstas67]

@5tonyvvvv can u elaborate more on that?cause i m a meat lover and i find it interesting.I dont say bullshit to u i keep an open mind to nutrition so i would like to know ur concers about meat

[bowulf]

@auggiedoggy "The only other foods you have are dairy foods which are low purine foods. "

It is obvious you have no clue what foods are allowed on the Atkins Diet. Read the video description, and you 'll see what alkaline foods are allowed on the Atkins Diet. That still however does not eliminate the original point that the purine content of one's food does not equal a high uric acid in one's blood.

[auggiedoggy]

@bowulf : I know that if you cut out the very high purine foods and only occasionally eat the moderate purine foods, which is what is being recommended, then it doesn't leave much. Most all of the meats that people eat on Atkins are in the medium purine group. Low purine foods consist of dairy and plant foods. Even many legumes such as kidney beans, lentils, white beans, etc. are foods that health professionals tell us to cut back on. Yes that includes soy!

[redrose971]

i did Atkins and i got gout. and the pain is murder.I'm still on a diet but i just eat less of everything,my gout has gone and im losing about 2pounds a week.also drink alot of water.simple as that, really.There are no magic foods that make you lose fat faster.

[bowulf]

@redrose971 Like I mentioned there are some people genetically predisposed to gout, and no matter the diet will likely have to be cautions with certain foods. As for magic foods, I was fortunate to find the diet that enabled me to lose at all after years of failing. While it was 4.2 pounds per week, the fact the weight left at all was the "magic" or the blessing part.

[tazlmc]

I suffered quite a bit from gout, and yes it is very painful. But since starting my low carb lifestyle surprisingly enough i have not had 1 attack. proof enough for me.

[bowulf]

@tazlmc That is a great validation of the lifestyle or way of eating. I appreciate the feedback from someone who lived it.

[X2hedX]

Uric acid is a -4 break down of ADP. ATP and ADP are obviously came from Carbohydrates. No one can really ingest a high amount of meat or protein and fat that provides a good source of Creatine neither. Also providing ATP to the ADP cycle.

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[79siggy]

a lot of diabetics suffer from gout

[bowulf]

@79siggy Yeah, their bodies don't process the excess protein from the blood like they once did. Just another reason for them to reverse the metabolic disorder by choosing a controlled or low carb lifestyle.

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[BigJohnIsOn]

How would one eat a "low-carb diet high in plant-based protein"? The question comes to me after reading a (non-causal) study report just released by the Annals of Internal Medicine.

[bowulf]

@BigJohnIsOn Replace the meat portion of the diet with beans (kidney, soy, lentils of other flavor) and spinach. They all feature a good amount of proteins. Replace the fat of the meat with a large amount of vegetable oils like olive.

The problem with the study you spoke of is that no one in the study actually followed any sort of low carb diets or vegetarian diets. They all had completely mixed diets and as such any conclusions are dubious.

[bowulf]

@enisorian Humor her until you take the lighter or other incendiary things away from her.

[jadeisback]

My sis has gout.. However her doc suggested that she follow a low carb diet because eliminating sugar decreases the pain when they have episodes of gout.. Since last year fewer episodes and 40lbs lighter..

[bowulf]

@jadeisback That is one of the things I find funny about the criticism. They are criticizing a diet that is an effective treatment for the ailment they prescribe to it. Glad to hear your sister is doing so well with it.

[WWBraveNewGirl]

This is an awesome video! Great job and presentation. Education is power, my friend!

[bowulf]

@WWBraveNewGirl These education videos are a bit more difficult to make and certainly more difficult to make interesting. I am glad you liked it, and it definitely makes help combating those claims easier and not limited to 500 characters or less.

[Alybist]

Great video. Love all your video's and appreciate your time. It has made my doing Atkins so much better.

[lakegirl645]

Thanks for the video! Very informative.

[bowulf]

@lakegirl645 No problem. I have been meaning to this misconception for awhile now, and the Royal Pains episode was the proverbial straw. I am glad you liked it.

[ANGIEfromAtoZ]

great video kent

[bowulf]

@ANGIEfromAtoZ Thanks Ang!