Apollo 17 Liftoff from Moon - December 14, 1972

[PandaComment]

Save the pandas!

[marcotor949]

It is well known that Bigfoot gave the order from the Grassy Knoll to fake the moon landings. It had to be done, to protect the secret Air Force moon base where the aliens first made contact and later operated from. The Illuminati, Masons, and the Catholic church, who were working in concert with the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and the "media" needed to hide from the public that all of the gold Prescott Bush and Joseph Kennedy had stolen from Fort Knox was hidden at the secret moon base.

[spikeyman000]

Who the hell filmed that, what a load of crap, we're leaving in a tin foil hut, filming with our 1972 wireless webcam

[Laurelindo]

@spikeyman000 It was filmed by a radio-controlled camera that they brought to the moon, Apollo would obviously find some way to record something as important as the lift-offs from the moon.

They aren't stupid, they prepare all these things in advance with the help of their great numbers of rocket scientists and engineers, you know.

[Laurelindo]

@spikeyman000 And yes I know their name is NASA, I mixed up the names, big deal.

[OfficialPolkaDot]

Ed Fendell in Houston had to anticipate the timing of ignition, lift-off, and the rate of climb, to control the camera tilt to follow the ascent.

i think thats really cool!

having to do it before and idk it seems complicated but it all worked out! xD

[Lavenderrose73]

Oh, they were back in time for Christmas! : )

[FayeKane]

> The moon landings were FAKED.

Yeah, wow...

I realized the horrible truth when I was just a little girl:

"Oh NO! The other kids aren't just PRETENDING to be stupid as a joke; they really ARE that stupid!!"

And now I observe that that when those kids grew up, they're still stupid.

The despair I feel is why I abandoned "humanity", moved into a cave in the woods where I live naked and steal electricity.

Yes, really:

tinyurl dot com/kanecave

-- faye kane homeless brain

[TheRobloxian23]

@FayeKane

Hmm you say that but a real doucebag. Would they really fake the moon landing? Would NASA really do that? If they did they would be shut down today for hoax. Also, Do you think the capsule reentry was a hoax?

[makethemyth]

who was left on moon to film this?

[makethemyth]

@aashen then who got the footage after if it was left behind?

[aashen]

@makethemyth Yes, because everything you've ever seen on television is brought to your home in tape form. If only there was some way of oh, I don't know, broadcasting a television signal to a receiver of some sort....

[Trek001]

@makethemyth it was transmitting - the controllers sent the movement signals in advance because they took into account the time delay

[hunchbacked]

Total bullshit: The way the Lem behaves in the end of the video is totally irrealistic, impossible.

[roamingcroat]

@hunchbacked How is it supposed to behave? Wait, do you think it's bobbing up and down? If you do, that would be because of camera movement. If not, I really don't see anything odd about the LM at the end (or the beginning or the middle).

[hunchbacked]

@roamingcroat

Why do the camera do that?

It has no reason to do that; in the first phase, the camera is not moving; even if the camera is commanded from earth, it takes more than two seconds between an operator sends a command to move the camera and the moment he sees the result; he would never move the camera this way, he would move it in slower steps, otherwise he would never catch the lem in his field of vision.

What we see makes no sense.

[hunchbacked]

@roamingcroat

The lem (if normally guided) has a very regular trajectory; it can easily be followed; the camera just had to move up a little to go on following it; there is absolutely no reason for the camera to move this way, neither for the lem.

What we see definitively makes no sense.

[roamingcroat]

@hunchbacked Ed Fendell was able to track the LM until pitchover, where he started losing track of it. As it started moving horizontally, the camera had to be panned down and to the left. The two second delay caught up with Fendell as the LM moved faster than he anticipated in the frame, but slower than the continuous pan rate of the camera (about 3 degrees/second). As a result, Fendell tried to follow the LM in steps, and ended up losing it to the left. He briefly found it again later on.

[hunchbacked]

@roamingcroat

Pitchover?

The lem makes no pitchover, it's not a plane; its trajectory is (normally) very regular; it makes a slow rotation from vertical to horizontal while ascending; the trajectory is (normally) very regular; there is absolutely no reason for the LEM to behave in a way that the camera would have to behave this way; the camera just had to move up a little.

[hunchbacked]

@roamingcroat

The lem would never have made a sudden brutal horizontal move; absolutely nothing explains what we see, it is totally contrary to a normal trajectory of the lem followed by a rational move of the camera; you are trying to explain what makes no sense.

They made it weird on purpose, and the explanations they give are jokes that they perfectly know that people who have some knowledge of how it should happen will see it makes no sense.

[hunchbacked]

@roamingcroat

What we see is not a normal LEM making a rational ascension, what we see is a toy behaving irrationally.

Go on trying to explain the irrational, I have quit believing in Apollo.

[roamingcroat]

@hunchbacked If by brutal horizontal move you mean pitchover, then no, that's a perfectly rational move. The camera is not perfectly aligned with the LM's downrange track, so when pitchover occurs and the LM starts moving horizontally (before it had moved only vertically), in the field of view of the camera, it starts moving to the left. The camera tracks the LM as best it can, but it pans and tilts at a set rate (~3 deg/s) that doesn't necessarily correspond to the LM's flight.

[roamingcroat]

@hunchbacked You seem to think the bobbing is movement of the LM - it's somewhat difficult to tell without a background, but it is movement of the camera trying to track the LM. Again, the camera can't tilt at just any rate - it tilts at about 3 deg/s, which was too fast for a continual tilt at that stage in the flight. In his attempt to keep the LM on screen, Fendell tilted the camera and then stopped, then tilted and stopped. Same thing with the pan.

[hunchbacked]

@roamingcroat

He didn't have to continuously tilt it this oscillatory way with a lateral shift, it's completely illogical.

[roamingcroat]

@hunchbacked Again, the tilt rate was fixed at about 3 deg/s. Notice that when tilting downward, a continuous tilt would have resulted in the ascent stage disappearing off the top of the screen. So he tried to compensate by tilting and stopping intermittantly to keep the LM roughly centered. Unfortunately, it also moved towards the left of the field of view, and by the time Fendell corrected, the LM was out of the camera's FOV. The LM was moving smoothly - watch the 16mm onboard launch film.

[hunchbacked]

@roamingcroat

Apparently he corrected the wrong way.!Funny that he could follow the Lem in the first phase, and he messed up so much in the second phase!

[roamingcroat]

@hunchbacked The rover was parked at the right distance to allow the constant 3 deg/s tilt rate to follow the LM during the initial vertical phase of the flight. After it pitched to a more horizontal attitude, the tilt constant tilt rate was no longer able to accurately track - it's not a hard concept to grasp. How would the camera have tracked the LM after pitchover with its 3 deg/s pitch rate without those corrections?

[hunchbacked]

@roamingcroat

Now it you want to find justifications to what is completely irrational, you always can.



[artieroo]

...And to think all that equipment is still there! Hopefully we'll visit them again soon. :)

[MuslimsGoToSweden]

The moon landings were FAKED. WAKE UP people!!!

[joachim2464]

@MuslimsGoToSweden yeah, the rocks are fake, the recent LRO images are faked. The 400 000 people who worked on the project is lying and all the astronauts are lying and all the launches of the saturn v was faked even though millions of people watched the launches. The laser that are hitting the retroreflectors left there is also fake. You wake up! Saying the moon landing is fake is like claiming that the moon is fake (it is made of cheese).

[hunchbacked]

@joachim2464

Only some of the rocks (picked in antarctica) are genuine; the other ones don't need to be since they haven't been analyzed.

The launches are not faked, but that doesn't mean a Lem landed on the moon.

Of the 400,00 people who worked on the project, very few know about the fakery: the other ones know nothing, and therefore don't need to lie.

The laser is not fake, but it's not bouncing on the tiny retro-reflectors "left"' by the astro-nots.

[dinoloverist]

The last humans on the moon!

[TheArceus12345]

@dinoloverist

Hopefully not for long! :)

[vealshanker]

yeah right! i see a toy on a string! gimme a break.

[LunarTuner]

@vealshanker, you're not serious, are you? If this is a toy, how do you explain this video showing Cernan and Schmitt walking around outside this exact scene? What string?

[99cham1]

awesome

[MassTransit999]

Sweet