How To Pwn a YEC Irreducible Complexity Part 2

[MisterTutor2010]

Micheal Behe: Biochemist who has turned to the Dark Side :)

[ian9toes]

Can anyone imagine small incremental steps leading from a steam engine to an internal combustion engine. Of course not, even though they share common parts, and similar functions. There are no intermediates steps leading to modern car motor from a steam engine. Similarly there are no intermediate steps in the evolution of the eye, but massive steps from one design to another. Evolution is pseudoscience.

[ian9toes]

Another evo has taken the bait. Miller takes away not 1 but 40 parts, leaving only 10 parts. And this is a good argument for you. Clearly you are a not a rational thinker. So assuming the fragellum motor has 50 parts as Miller has implied. A good argument would be to show, a functioning bacterier with only 49 parts. THAT would be a good argument. But seeing as he removed 40, they have to be readded with your imagination. Evolution is pseudoscience.

[RDeathbringer]

When I was first exposed to irreducible complexity the same propaganda also insisted that pi was equal to 3 because the bible says it is so.

[hotpants69]

I was saying... since there are an unfathomable number of bacteria and other organisms, especially taking in all those through the billions of years that have passed- HA even the number that would exist in a fictional 6000 year old Neo-Biblical worldview every so often there is a mutation that may result in the nub that is the start of a tail.It doesn't need "purpose," only that ones with that mutation were able to mate or survive and go through mitosis or whatever they do. Eventually u hv tails

[hotpants69]

Well, I don't think Jaguar explains how these could evolve properly. I did enjoy the video but he lets his words fly speedy at an irregular pace. But really, thanks for posting these. I get the main point.

The religious who push off sleazy, false versions of science always stir up this sort of confusion. Behe assumes, or at least puts forth that each part develops on its own and wouldn't if a nub had no function. Mutation doesn't work that way. Mutations happen regardless so some nubs...

[Yahweigh]

ohhhhhhh sellout!



[Naiant]

It's been my experience that most people who insult "Ishtar" haven't even seen the thing. Sure, they went way beyond their budget, but it's a funny movie.

[JaguarJ0nes]

@Naiant What a sad existence you must live :D

[Meatbag211]

Ishtar wasn't that bad.

[Judicial78]

1 out of 3 votes on this video was done by 5 YECS with no life and 20 youtube accounts.

[Naiant]

Hey! I thought Ishtar was *funny*!

[ultimategoobah]

lol. i have no clue what a pangolin is but the conversation up there is very lmao.

[suicune690]

@ultimategoobah It's like an armadillo, but with sharp scales instead of a shell. Found in Africa.

[3vi14n931]

Damn, I think I got truth on my head!

[Copsweet]

Did the T3ss evolve 1st or the flagellum? Did they evolve in parallel? Is the pathway known? To date the answers to these questions are-don't know,don't know and don't know. The only thing that is known is that they must have evolved. I would have have thought discovering how biological systems work is more beneficial than their origin. Pawned by more conjecture. The stronger the language you use,the weaker your argument.

[VarykGerai]

The YEC pwners manual alone is a killer, all of it is just too much, my eyes are bleeding.

[farkoman]

Agree. Behe is an idiot.

[boan000]

finding a function for any sub-component of an irreducibly complex system does not disprove the irreducibility of the given system. back to the mousetrap example, the latch and the pressure-sensitive plate could be removed and the remaining system could still have function as a paperclip or a tieclip, for instance. so the argumentation presented here also fails on the same grounds.

[boan000]

basically, the type-iii secretion system argumentation is a strawman of what behe is talking about when he says irreducible complexity. if any component of the flagellum is removed, it will cease to function as a flagellum. if you read behe's writings, you'll see that he does not argue that the system's component parts are precluded from having seperate or independent functions.

[boan000]

In The Origin of Species Darwin stated:

'If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.'

(cont'd)

[boan000]

Hilarious, this comment is a verbatim quotation of Darwin, and you evo-head geniuses still give me thumbs-down. LOL. too funny!

[boan000]

(cont'd)

A system which meets Darwin's criterion is one which exhibits irreducible complexity. By irreducible complexity I mean a single system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning. (Michael Behe, Darwin's Black Box, pg. 39 (Free Press, 1996).)

[ThisClownis2in1]

I commented on using the parts for other purposes on the last video. I should have watched both before commenting.

[FHomeBrew]

I like how you're verbose and still manage to squeeze in a couple of jokes.

To anyone asking for the YEC manual; it's too big to be finished in the real world as a normal kind of book (as the number of pages exceeds 1.4*10^32) If it were to exist, you wouldn't live long enough to read it all. Even if it's in digital format, you still can't read all of it, let alone put it in practice.

It is a fun concept. I'd like a summary if possible though ;-)

[SpyHotz404]

The JaguarJ0nes Institute utilizes non-Euclidean, extradimensional, and psionic technolologies in the publication of its literary material. The YEC Pwn3r's Manual can and does fit all its content into a space convenient for the majority of homo sapiens.

[guywitharock]

awesome vids, keep it up!

btw, where can i get my own YEC Pwn3r's Manual? :P

[stelerscyth]

fucking epic

[aviyahu01]

i watched his presentation at eugene oregan university...scared the crap out of a few people...one guy was shaking and studdering afterwards...i had an awesome conversation with that one for about an hour...this video made a joke out of an otherwise compelling and fascinating theory...seems to be trying too hard...throwing insults...hows your memory of psychology 101? yeah-i'd say they are bashing for a good reason!

[the2500]

1:55 or so, I feel like i'm about to be sold an revolutionary cleaning product

[Naiant]

I rather liked Ishtar. I must be a pangolin.

[Archael2]

god I love your videos

keep up the great work in spreading truth

[PersonalDconsruction]

YOU DARE TO TAKE THE HOLY FILM THAT IS ISHTAR INVAIN!?!?!?! YOU ARE A HEATHEN WHOSE BLASPHEMY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED BY ELAINE MAY! DUSTIN HOFFMAN AND WARREN BEATTY WILL GOUGE YOUR EYES OUT AND MAKE YOU WISH FOR DEATH YOU ISHTARLESS HEATHEN! And the pangolin will join in the fun as well.

Great Vid BTW

[ZachValkyrie]

Speaking as a professional sell-out, I take great offense at being compared to Michael Behe.

[ArtypNk]

Irreducible complexity is true. Proof:

I once lost a tooth, was dead ever since.

[killinusoon]

LOL pwnd.

[Astr0chimp]

omg!, its JESUS!!, on YOUTUBE!!

omfg! he's back!

[Kattarina98]

Actually, I am looking forward to this running gag about the Pengolins whenever I open one of his videos. Perhaps I am infantile ...

[anon32016]

Seriously... WTF's up with you and pangolins?

I sense freudian reaction hanging in the air...

Other than the pangolin bashing, great vid, as always!

[JaguarJ0nes]

I am getting sick of this crap. I am in the process of making a video that will PROOVE pangolins are tottally gay. I would finish and post it right now if I wasn't piss drunk.

[anon32016]

Can you at least give me an idea on how the heck you came up with the idea in the first place?

You see, us lesser minds marvel at your excellence, and cannot grasp the idea of gay pangolins, although it surely is both flawlessly logical and relevant in every aspect. I will await your video with with great anticipation!

[Mythification]

Hey! Pengolins are totaly gay!!! =)

[yatter1]

@JaguarJ0nes I think it´s DISGUSTING that you peddle this gay pangolin stuff. You´re degrading a serious point here. Pangolins have religion too, it´s totally unjust. I think you´re a gay, pervert pangolin fancier who is desperate to find love. Signed president, straight pangolin society (membership, 1)

[Singebuggercat]

LMFAO!

[qanazir]

Irreducible complexity  does only refer to the current state of a system and we have evolutionary explaination for almost all major systems.

Is that really so hard to understand?

[shaybshay]

"Take ownership of your YEC." Love it. Great work.

[aka4x7b]

The only answer to things we don't understand is Magic ... MAGIC I say!!

[FlowCell]

But Behe isn't a YEC. He also accepts evolutionary theory, at least according to DonExodus2 and the correspondence he had with him. Behe is a denier of abiogensis, to be exact.

[nevinyrralsdisk]

I'm going to find some Lee University alumni just so I can mock them over this.

[thunderpants10]

Total sellout

excellent vid as usual

[SkepticalAtheist]

JaguarJ0nes, I love your style.

5/5

Nice pwnage.

[ProfessorHopkins]

Excellent!

The sellout part was a nice touch.

[DanielJGreenJr]

Irreducible complexity is still taken so seriously by many. Within a hundred years it will be remembered as a joke. Things people remember their grandparents rambleing about. In two hundred years it will be known only by scholars of failed religious arguements.

Def. Irreducible complexity: This is the complexity that we see. Stop researching there is no reason or way to use it to help humanity.

[lifeisgummo]

Mr Gap, Mr J0nes is correct and he is correct again. Do not lie for your friends. We know you indulge in Circle jerks all day long. Denying is lying. Do not lie, you little Pangolin.

[GayAssPangolin]

I got three fingers and long-ass talons! Circle jerks are the LAST items on my to-do list! But the tongue... oh the tongue! Yeah, keep wishin'!

[Ryan44567]

I can't wait until I can pwn a YEC. Thanks Mr. Jones!

[JaguarJ0nes]

The pleasure of serving you is the exclusive and non-transferable property of the team of experts at the JaguarJ0nes institute.

Seriously, thanks.

[GayAssPangolin]

AND... Pangolins.

[JaguarJ0nes]

Don't try to steal my glory you gay scaley rump ranger!

[lifeisgummo]

When my bodily functions were correct to relax, as no medium of youtube could attribute to penile release, i was quite wrong, for my short shorts have came across the lack of colour evoked by light via cloudy grey discharge in said shorts.

You sir, have caused my washing machine 2 shillings extra usage

Pangolins are of homosexual orientation. Anyone who trys to refute these claims are liars. We are correct, sir.

[GayAssPangolin]

You see... I wear the monicre of Gay with pride (NOT as in Parade!). In reality, we are Bi-ass Pangolins, as our species would be even further endangered were to make the jump completely to the otherside of the aforementioned fence. We are fence sitters, though, some of my species are fence-post sitters. They are revered.

[lifeisgummo]

I didn't understand the position of your species Mr GAP, oh no you didn't. I have only known said post sitter acquaintances. But i hold to firm belief that all Pangolins are homosexual. My case rests on the evidence of Anecdote, thus UNBREAKABLE. Check & mate. Can you play chess Mr Pangolin. I surely hope not.

[JaguarJ0nes]

Pangolins can't play chess because their little claws are too busy giving hand jobs to other pangolins. They are totally bsolutely, undeniably, positively, comprehensively, exhaustively, sweepingly, explicitly, factually, expressly, genuinely, unconditionally GAY!

[GayAssPangolin]

I am NOT mated (yet... though were some special Pangolins in my time), NOR am I Zugzwanged! We are not ALL gay... just mostly. But we ARE all scaley! ANd yes! We are related to Armadillos and Ant eaters. Though we don't mention the Ant eaters at dinner... ant! Ich!!!

[lifeisgummo]

I will never believe a lying Pangolin, especially when your name is the only e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e i will ever need. Leave Mr 'dillo & Mr Eater out of said discussion. Your lies will get you nowhere Mr of Homosexual orientation.

[GayAssPangolin]

Ours sexuality is for us! And us alone! Do I tongue your bedroom? Then keep your ugly, short, useless, non-prehensile tongues out of our tree trunks!

[JaguarJ0nes]

Listen, Gay Assed Pangolins, like our little troll here, love their booze and drugs. Some times they stoned and inadvertently have heterosexual sex. This is not proof or even evidence that pangolins are not totally gay!

[GayAssPangolin]

Careful! Or that uncomfortable feeling you wake up to might be me searchin' for some love and... termites!

You're not the first Jaguar, Panther, Cheetah I've come across! Pussies! All of them!!!

[Cyrathil]

Bah, means nothing other than Pangolins are a-sexual, or at least have a system akin to a lot of the fish, it doesn't mean you're straight, and as said below "My case rests on the evidence of Anecdote, thus UNBREAKABLE", so since the fact that you all are gay is undeniable, you therefore must have a different way of creating young. And your lying add to the derision we feel for pangolins!

[GayAssPangolin]

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all Pangolins are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the green hills of Malay the sons of formerly gay Pangolins will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the scales on their back but by the length of their tongues!

[Cyrathil]

Yeah, yeah, nice speech and all, but it's still an undeniable fact that pangolins are totally gay.

[lifeisgummo]

TL;DR Pangolins are gay.

[GayAssPangolin]

You're a towel!

[GayAssPangolin]

You talkin shit about me again?

[JaguarJ0nes]

Sooooooo..

Got yourself a little gay assed YouTube account do ya?

Well bring'em on you dickless lunatic!

Listen, the harder you try the gayer you look!

[GayAssPangolin]

Dem's fightin' words Gay Ass bag of mostly water! You don't even have decent scales!

And look at my tongue! If you had a tongue like that you'd FINALLY get laid!

[ooolikujy]

hey!!!! Ishtar is a classic movie. It is ALMOST as good as "Howard the Duck".

and no I am not Dustin Hoffman.

[JaguarJ0nes]

How dare you compare "Howard the Duck" (AKA the prequil to "The Shawshank Redemtion") to Ishtar?

You are treading on thin ice hear buddy!

[ateap0tist]

great vid, i'm sorry it has so few viewers! I'll spread the word! :) in the meantime 5 stars and fav...as usual!

[JaguarJ0nes]

Thanks for that! The views will go up. I just posted it a few hours ago.

[Bobbiethejean]

The pangolin community frowns upon your shenanigans.

[Phibins]

this video made me jizz all over my laptop keyboard, damn it.

but thanks....

[JaguarJ0nes]

The JaguarJ0nes institute cannot be held responsible for strange substances being expelled with high pressure through unspecified bodily orifices while watching these videos.

We realize you have a choice of which insufferable pricks you watch on YouTube and we thank you for choosing the JJ channel.

[Danmill23]

Warmed the cockles of my heart.

[JaguarJ0nes]

I don't know what that means but is sounds positive. Thanks. This does not, however, mean we're gonna be swappin' spit in the shower after 11:30 on a school night.

[unixhead101]

No need for the exchange of bodily fluids, its just a common british expression that means, having a feeling of inner well being and contentment.

Great vid :0)

[ScreechingInsanity]

Bravo

[Thejugglingbum]

5 stars as soon as I head Behe should be tarred and feathered. Your voice is so awesome btw!

[JaguarJ0nes]

Only if I had the body, giant schlong and 6 figure income to go along with the voice.

[Yevhen123]

yes i 2 love the voice and the way you speaks.

5 stars looking forward to more videos

[philman302]

You should have like 100k subscribers, good video.

[calvin396]

great vid i didn't realise how gay pangolin's were

[NwZ2]

Great job in incorporating Ken Miller' refutation of IC. It's eloquent and easy to understand, and hence very potent.