the reason they sound so simple is they have strong punk influences mixed with black and thrash metal but mostly punk u can hear it from there riffs and the drumming that's straight hardcore punk riffing and punk is simple it just mostly chords played very fast but sounds cool and keeps a fast paced rhythm that u can mosh to just look at joel he looks like a punk
@DeathMetal6907 Actually the dude from TOXIC HOLOCAUST looks like an eighties GLAM POSER from NEW YORK, but YES VERY MUCH HARDCORE INFLUENCE, with a slight early DEATH METAL vocal styling, but should get rid of the distortion on the vocals, I think it is unneccessary in his genre, just my opinion, HEY at least someone is out there trying to remember a time before NU METAL
@spinypigweed actually he looks like a punk rocker since he is influenced by punk rock and he doesn't use distortion on his vocals that is his real voice and they fit his genre fine since it is blackened thrash with punk influences
@DeathMetal6907 I am a PUNK rocker so i know what they look like, also I am a musician, sorry, there is distortion on the vox of the first two albums, it's either that or the masters were over compressed. yes I can tell he is influenced by punk, more the crossover thrash/punk era of the eighties, but he doesn't look like a PUNK, I think he has a cross section of influences, not just punk.
@DeathMetal6907 Well yea, depending on the region they were from, and what particular SUB genre they were into. Actually I never disrespected TOXIC HOLOCAUST, I actually like the STRIPPED down style of the music. It's kind of the same mentality the RAMONES had, TRIM the FAT OUT! Stick to the POWER CHORDS more bands should do that (and I include my own band in that)
@spinypigweed Yea technical musicianship is all well and great but what I discovered over years of playing clubs.....The drunken kids don't really care about that, they want BARR CHORDS and swear words. I began to tone down the band I am in a bit and we discovered a stronger reaction from the crowds GO FIGURE, So I believe that T H is onto something there. Now I did not think that five years ago, I was proven wrong.
Old school THRASH was SUPPOSED to be simple....a rebelion against the overproduced, over complicated stuff....to the hardcore thrashers, the over complicated, all dyynamic stuff was (and still is) considered to be FAKE POSER SHIT!!!!!, This guy captures it pretty well for a younger guy, but his vocals need work!!!!
@spinypigweed um no u have it wrong thrash was a rebellion against glam metal not over complicated or dynamic stuff look at sadus and coroner there technical or watchtower plus toxic holocaust is blackened thrash with punk influences u can definitely hear the punk in them he uses black metal style vocals
@DeathMetal6907 Yes you can hear the PUNK influences, but NO I HAVE IT RIGHT ...when THRASH FIRST came to be....it was a rebellion against EVERYTHING I said (yes, including GLAM METAL) ...CORONER SADUS came later in the THRASH MOVEMENT. You can trace THRASH back to the original BLACK METAL like VENOM, I know I was around at the time, I still have "BLACK METAL" , and AT WAR WITH SATAN on vynil. Also look up early SODOM, early ACCEPT. Early thrash was heavly PUNK influenced
@spinypigweed All thrash is punk influenced punk made up thrash along with nwobhm and thrash was only a rebellion against glam and hair metal bands since they hated that type of music and seeing dudes dress like women and if any one really created thrash it would be anvil they where playing thrash before metallica ever was and venom are speed metal if any band who created black metal it would be bathory
@DeathMetal6907 : Actually I think Hellhammer created black metal. Hellhammer recorded their 3 demos in 1983 which were pure black freakin metal, Bathory's early demo and first album was in 1984. You are right about Venom though. I don't know why some call them black metal. It's so obvious that they're speed metal!
@RockForce131 : yeah, Venom created the First Wave of Black Metal and defined what black metal is, but their musical genre does NOT sound like black metal too me! Their first album is clearly speed metal, and their next album, Black Metal, is thrash metal and speed metal. Hellhammer's music is the first pure sound of black metal. It's the same with Possessed, how they coined the term Death metal, but they were brutal thrash, and Death was had first pure sound of death metal
Venom was no way Black Metal at all. Matter or fact most thrash metal had the sound Venom threw out there in the 80's I say Hellhammer sprouted the seed for black metal and Venom came up with the term. And Possessed OWNS Death Metal. "The Seven Churches" to be honest is more Brutal than "Scream Bloody Gore" and as a matter or fact, the Reason Chuck wanted to do what he did is because he got totally inspired by Possessed's "The Seven Churches" Which didn't have much thrash elements in it.
@DeathMetal6907 and YES ALL THRASH, from the EARLY punk influened stuff from 1980, all the way through the PROGRESSIVE THRASH, and then evolving into DEATH MEATL and GROOVE METAL (however I will not count NU METAL as it is CRAP in my book) ...all of these were MORTAL enemies with GLAM in the eighties and then with GRUNGE in the nineties.....thankfully, more aggressive music WON, METAL was saved, however PUNk fell into POSER shit, went from SEX PISTOLS, to POISON IDEA...then to BLINK 182? WTF
I think a simplistic style is good for any kind of band. I mean, I love stuff like Tech Death, grindcore, Prog metal, but sometimes the simple stuff is more then enough, plus it's just catchy as hell, music shouldn't be over complicated, it's fine, but sometimes a simple style is enough
Damn, don't hate them. but, people who say "don't bother listening to thrash." some people don't like them, but love anthrax or old metallica. what you should say is "don't bother commenting if you hate them, they are great thrash" or something along those lines.
dont hate on these dudes....i mean the point really is to enjoy the music and if you dont like it then you dont like thrash honestly cus this shit is fuckin sick. oh and people saying they have no variety are fuckin posers....period.
im not sayin their not talented but they dont have variety it does sound the same i actually mistaked a song for another thought they were the same lol
@Slayerof100 i saw them live the other night and i met joel. he lost a hell of alot of weight. hes like incredebly skinny now. and shorter than i expected
What does money matter man ? it should be because you love the music. And alot of musicians have 9-5 jobs on the side to support their families. If you have the passion you will make it work.
Toxic is a full band now. I talked to Joel after the GWAR show in Houston. The other members were his tour musicians for a while but it's now official. Then again, it makes no difference since he's the frontman and everyone goes to him for autographs and shit lol.
yes, he does. he writes all of it... but doesn't record the drums. he can play the drums, just can't do some of the double bass and complicated stuff. joel IS toxic holocaust.
thats awesome, i cant wait for the new record. that bass tone is killer. it fits in so well. and i do enjoy the journey in the background when your in the bar
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Osiris Presents
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Sunday, Feb 12, 2012 7:00 PM EST
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RedBlacknBlue 1 month ago in playlist Toxic Holocaust
why was he playing 666 when thats on evil never dies?and is that recording a rerecorded version of the song? it sounded sick either way
TheDeadnightWarior 1 year ago
@TheDeadnightWarior He was re-recording it. It was re-recorded for the Japanese release of An Overdose Of Death
OBCBand 7 months ago
Is this...... Kurt Cobain ???
yprs 1 year ago
Oh wow how come i come across a good video there always has to be someone arguing about some nonsense. Just enjoy the video then gtfo.
mrhanover 1 year ago
2:20 hahahaha Journey is on the background
Hassenix1 1 year ago
the reason they sound so simple is they have strong punk influences mixed with black and thrash metal but mostly punk u can hear it from there riffs and the drumming that's straight hardcore punk riffing and punk is simple it just mostly chords played very fast but sounds cool and keeps a fast paced rhythm that u can mosh to just look at joel he looks like a punk
DeathMetal6907 1 year ago
@DeathMetal6907 Actually the dude from TOXIC HOLOCAUST looks like an eighties GLAM POSER from NEW YORK, but YES VERY MUCH HARDCORE INFLUENCE, with a slight early DEATH METAL vocal styling, but should get rid of the distortion on the vocals, I think it is unneccessary in his genre, just my opinion, HEY at least someone is out there trying to remember a time before NU METAL
spinypigweed 1 year ago
@spinypigweed actually he looks like a punk rocker since he is influenced by punk rock and he doesn't use distortion on his vocals that is his real voice and they fit his genre fine since it is blackened thrash with punk influences
DeathMetal6907 1 year ago
@DeathMetal6907 I am a PUNK rocker so i know what they look like, also I am a musician, sorry, there is distortion on the vox of the first two albums, it's either that or the masters were over compressed. yes I can tell he is influenced by punk, more the crossover thrash/punk era of the eighties, but he doesn't look like a PUNK, I think he has a cross section of influences, not just punk.
spinypigweed 1 year ago
@spinypigweed he does look like a punk but he is influenced by metal to as u can tell by there genre and punks did have hair like that
DeathMetal6907 1 year ago
@DeathMetal6907 Well yea, depending on the region they were from, and what particular SUB genre they were into. Actually I never disrespected TOXIC HOLOCAUST, I actually like the STRIPPED down style of the music. It's kind of the same mentality the RAMONES had, TRIM the FAT OUT! Stick to the POWER CHORDS more bands should do that (and I include my own band in that)
spinypigweed 1 year ago
@spinypigweed Yea technical musicianship is all well and great but what I discovered over years of playing clubs.....The drunken kids don't really care about that, they want BARR CHORDS and swear words. I began to tone down the band I am in a bit and we discovered a stronger reaction from the crowds GO FIGURE, So I believe that T H is onto something there. Now I did not think that five years ago, I was proven wrong.
spinypigweed 1 year ago
Old school THRASH was SUPPOSED to be simple....a rebelion against the overproduced, over complicated stuff....to the hardcore thrashers, the over complicated, all dyynamic stuff was (and still is) considered to be FAKE POSER SHIT!!!!!, This guy captures it pretty well for a younger guy, but his vocals need work!!!!
spinypigweed 1 year ago
@spinypigweed um no u have it wrong thrash was a rebellion against glam metal not over complicated or dynamic stuff look at sadus and coroner there technical or watchtower plus toxic holocaust is blackened thrash with punk influences u can definitely hear the punk in them he uses black metal style vocals
DeathMetal6907 1 year ago
@DeathMetal6907 Yes you can hear the PUNK influences, but NO I HAVE IT RIGHT ...when THRASH FIRST came to be....it was a rebellion against EVERYTHING I said (yes, including GLAM METAL) ...CORONER SADUS came later in the THRASH MOVEMENT. You can trace THRASH back to the original BLACK METAL like VENOM, I know I was around at the time, I still have "BLACK METAL" , and AT WAR WITH SATAN on vynil. Also look up early SODOM, early ACCEPT. Early thrash was heavly PUNK influenced
spinypigweed 1 year ago
@spinypigweed All thrash is punk influenced punk made up thrash along with nwobhm and thrash was only a rebellion against glam and hair metal bands since they hated that type of music and seeing dudes dress like women and if any one really created thrash it would be anvil they where playing thrash before metallica ever was and venom are speed metal if any band who created black metal it would be bathory
DeathMetal6907 1 year ago
@DeathMetal6907 : Actually I think Hellhammer created black metal. Hellhammer recorded their 3 demos in 1983 which were pure black freakin metal, Bathory's early demo and first album was in 1984. You are right about Venom though. I don't know why some call them black metal. It's so obvious that they're speed metal!
MetalAttack1986 1 year ago
@MetalAttack1986 yeah totally forgot about hellhammer I would say death fiend was a mix between early death metal and black metal
DeathMetal6907 1 year ago
@MetalAttack1986 No dude, Venom created black metal in '82 with the album BLACK METAL. Well they created the first of black metal at least.
RockForce131 1 year ago
@RockForce131 : yeah, Venom created the First Wave of Black Metal and defined what black metal is, but their musical genre does NOT sound like black metal too me! Their first album is clearly speed metal, and their next album, Black Metal, is thrash metal and speed metal. Hellhammer's music is the first pure sound of black metal. It's the same with Possessed, how they coined the term Death metal, but they were brutal thrash, and Death was had first pure sound of death metal
MetalAttack1986 1 year ago
@MetalAttack1986 True, you make a compelling argument, but for what its worth your right.
RockForce131 1 year ago
@RockForce131 : thanks. Bathory also kinda defines the pure, true sound of early black metal too.
MetalAttack1986 1 year ago
Venom was no way Black Metal at all. Matter or fact most thrash metal had the sound Venom threw out there in the 80's I say Hellhammer sprouted the seed for black metal and Venom came up with the term. And Possessed OWNS Death Metal. "The Seven Churches" to be honest is more Brutal than "Scream Bloody Gore" and as a matter or fact, the Reason Chuck wanted to do what he did is because he got totally inspired by Possessed's "The Seven Churches" Which didn't have much thrash elements in it.
666deathghost 10 months ago
@DeathMetal6907 and YES ALL THRASH, from the EARLY punk influened stuff from 1980, all the way through the PROGRESSIVE THRASH, and then evolving into DEATH MEATL and GROOVE METAL (however I will not count NU METAL as it is CRAP in my book) ...all of these were MORTAL enemies with GLAM in the eighties and then with GRUNGE in the nineties.....thankfully, more aggressive music WON, METAL was saved, however PUNk fell into POSER shit, went from SEX PISTOLS, to POISON IDEA...then to BLINK 182? WTF
spinypigweed 1 year ago
I think a simplistic style is good for any kind of band. I mean, I love stuff like Tech Death, grindcore, Prog metal, but sometimes the simple stuff is more then enough, plus it's just catchy as hell, music shouldn't be over complicated, it's fine, but sometimes a simple style is enough
xxSlaidxx 1 year ago
The simplicity of this band amazes me. Yet I still somehow like it.
rsman169 1 year ago
you know whats funny is people thumbed down because they probably didnt read the whole thing... lol
BBBBTT 1 year ago
Journey in the background :)
ElBastardo 2 years ago
i play progressive deth metal . but no other music style gets to me like thrash
DENOCiDE87 2 years ago 2
Damn, don't hate them. but, people who say "don't bother listening to thrash." some people don't like them, but love anthrax or old metallica. what you should say is "don't bother commenting if you hate them, they are great thrash" or something along those lines.
MrCoww 2 years ago
dont hate on these dudes....i mean the point really is to enjoy the music and if you dont like it then you dont like thrash honestly cus this shit is fuckin sick. oh and people saying they have no variety are fuckin posers....period.
fazelife 2 years ago 6
This guy's pretty good i mean he's recording the whole thing by himself
JordanFreeman112 2 years ago
me????? your the only one on this page that doesnt agree i think its one sided dumass there good but it sounds the same get over it stupid fuck
deadcows09 2 years ago
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Why does every comment that says it sounds the same get negative feed back? It honestly does sound the same...
Femicide09 2 years ago
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im not sayin their not talented but they dont have variety it does sound the same i actually mistaked a song for another thought they were the same lol
deadcows09 2 years ago
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I know lol. Every riff and drum beat is identical to the other ones. I think they should just stick with being a local band or something.
Femicide09 2 years ago
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dude their songs are all the same, no variety, this band sucks cock
BTeeper 2 years ago
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TOX HOLO is sick..listen to the demos if you have any reservations but you suck if you dont give these kids props..HAIL S@TAN
408Libbie 2 years ago
kids? they look like fat old hipsters to me
beersoffire 2 years ago 3
a real fat man, fat thrash metal!
Otto90s 2 years ago 4
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Hey look we just made 10 tracks that sound the same.....
proxcis 2 years ago
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hahaha true that. they fucking suck!
TheBurntPi 2 years ago
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ahaha the songs sound the fuckin same
mechanix94 2 years ago
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they really do. They suck so badly.
TheBurntPi 2 years ago
i know bands like venom, bathory, onslaught, and discharge are in ur face badass.
but come on at least listen to the old corrosion of conformity like eye for an eye, animosity, or even technocracy.
or the accused, cryptic slaughter, excel, the first suicidal tendencies before they got into the whole cyco shit.
i mean venom, slayer, are cool
but at least exprement with other thrash bands
sham47 2 years ago 3
attitude adjustment is also a very cool band and lately i'm digging mx machine a lot :d
going to see toxic tonight :d
glendestrocke88 2 years ago
Wtf! I want that Onslaught jacket!! :O
SouthernKsL 2 years ago
it's just a patch, i have it myself.
SlaytanicMegaforce 2 years ago
journey playing in the restaurant. <3
emericacore 2 years ago
continue to play the guitar, becouse you're a terrible bassist man!
beppuzzo0808 2 years ago
does anyone know the song hes playing on bass?
sesshoramu32 2 years ago
this was uploaded on my bday ! :)
BlackTidefan101 2 years ago
Oh man, fucking hard basslines.
NapalmScum 2 years ago
who gives a shit, tech-fiend are ya?
go back to necrofaggist
opticon6 2 years ago
He is the Man...
d1370 2 years ago 3
And he's fat
Slayerof100 2 years ago 17
i met him monday he isnt fat
guitarmuffin 2 years ago
he's is still a fucking bad ass.
rocker66666666 2 years ago
But he also gets a lot of hot ass chicks.
JacksonShredder18 2 years ago
A kick ass fat man :D
Fucking awesome!! \m/
SouthernKsL 2 years ago
@Slayerof100 i saw them live the other night and i met joel. he lost a hell of alot of weight. hes like incredebly skinny now. and shorter than i expected
666thrashisback 5 months ago
@Slayerof100
Real metalheads are fat, that's just standard.
SocietyCollapses 1 month ago
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a question. how much does a thrash metal musician make?
bslz65 2 years ago
not as much as those gay ass pop singers make
blueishblackrain 2 years ago
It depends.
OhNoNotCheese 2 years ago
probably less than enough to live on
crustpunk 2 years ago
What does money matter man ? it should be because you love the music. And alot of musicians have 9-5 jobs on the side to support their families. If you have the passion you will make it work.
guitarandass 2 years ago
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how the fuck do u them guys scremo like that
nath2k10 2 years ago
on the end of the video is a new version of "666"?:O
MaidenZsoltika 2 years ago
Haha
That version is so much more fucking awesome
Well...I think so
LiveFastDieYoung92 2 years ago
the candy at 0:18 .. my friend & i were speedeating that shit a couple days ago. fucking hurts, dude. X]
MaggotOFMaiden 2 years ago
I know why he does everything on his own. I want to make the same kind of music for years now but I just can't find even one band member for that.
I might just do it like him and do all the shit on my own...if I'd have a bass or drums.
exo0O 2 years ago 3
i now what you mean
mmzero562 2 years ago
Do I hear Journey in the backround...? If so I can't name the song
neutronhomer12 3 years ago
que buen baterista¡¡¡¡¡
joelymaira 3 years ago 3
VALE LA PENA VERLO!!
politico222 3 years ago
that first riff in the video reminds of Judas Priest Painkiller
DarkMessiah70 3 years ago 3
Now that you said it... It really does :D
xDizzy9x 3 years ago
Incredible for such a minimalist approach. Great new album!
DREWBERT79 3 years ago 5
metal
ToxicThrashMeta1 3 years ago
Where can i find the partition of bass ( at 0:40 )?
Peaceman36 3 years ago
In my ass
Slayerof100 2 years ago
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There's two guys in the band?!
godofdrums 3 years ago
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nope 4 i think
SoundOfAShark 3 years ago
only 1... thats joel...
SlaytanicWarfare 3 years ago
actually its just joel grind, and he gets studio musicians
cheatman500 3 years ago
Just one, Joel... but in studio and live he invites people from other bands to play
Svartdoden 3 years ago
Toxic is a full band now. I talked to Joel after the GWAR show in Houston. The other members were his tour musicians for a while but it's now official. Then again, it makes no difference since he's the frontman and everyone goes to him for autographs and shit lol.
JacksonShredder18 3 years ago
This is a one man band (Joel Grind)
Tertuel 3 years ago
ur both wrong joel grind is the only member he hires musicians.
RollingXstone92 3 years ago 4
yeah but he doesnt write the drum stuff or anything
witchinghour666 2 years ago
on previous albums he did EVERYTHING.
Bassfiend567 2 years ago
yes, he does. he writes all of it... but doesn't record the drums. he can play the drums, just can't do some of the double bass and complicated stuff. joel IS toxic holocaust.
missprissanna 2 years ago 35
There's one guy. on the old stuff, he did EVERYTHING. but, this is the first album he recorded with another dude
ChronostormSP 3 years ago 2
thats awesome, i cant wait for the new record. that bass tone is killer. it fits in so well. and i do enjoy the journey in the background when your in the bar
Theguttersayshello 3 years ago
fuck yeah.
SeaBeast663 3 years ago
NUKE THE CROSS
karhjoo 3 years ago
MPDS!!
SanrioGore 3 years ago
Toxic Holocaust is a great band! these guys kick ass!
hilltoprocks 3 years ago
Fuck yeah, seven
Siiickle 3 years ago
Six six six!
ecscottindiana 3 years ago 5
third?
bigad1227 3 years ago
DUDE both nuke the cross AND wild dogs was on the 2007 demo..
neckneti 3 years ago
can't wait :)
monkeyman256 3 years ago
my buddy said this one man crew is siick. just came back from some european deal and is touring with some big boys.
dscglfr00 3 years ago
toxic holocaust is fucking insane!!that's why i love it
good work joel!
greetings from Chile!
here you have a lot of fans try to come one day \m/
dankiller90 3 years ago
im really diggin his bass tone.
idontneedaname 3 years ago
yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
Bayouwerewolf 3 years ago 4
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second?
dinoboss 3 years ago
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First!
2tonpredator 3 years ago
fuk yeah. Holocaust is my fav New thrash band. great fuking band. Keep up the good work
miikedio 3 years ago 16