Browns a cunt, end off and as for bliar, fair? he just paid his tax on his earnings at 3%!!! glad i am not him though, just imagine waking up in the morning to motor gob cherie!
I used to support Labour, but there progression of leaders have got weaker and weaker. Ed Milliband gets absolutley battered every PMQ's They need someone who can take on Cameron.
Brown like blair Sold some of our rules on Taxes and spending to the EU!¬!!!....SO why Not the PM stand for our rights,,,Given Away under New Labour...
Everyone should read "Gordon is a moron" by Vernon Coleman and pass it on to their descendants so they about the fucking useless , incompetent cunt who destroyed this country.
Look at the state Germany was in after the world war lol. Also, without debt what is the point of money? Compare this country to others and you realise for a small island with a small population we are able to compete. What we need is to instil a more positive attitude along the lines of "it isn't what your country can do for you, it is what you can do for you country" then the recession would be truly over.
This "fucking disaster" allowed the country to be subjected to uncontrolled mass immigration. Go into any city and town now and compare it to 10 years ago. Makes you want to smash this cunts head in.
Oh big deal he said it the wrong way around, it's clear what he meant, it would continue to rise in 2011/12 and then in 2013/14 it would be 0%. If he had said it THAT way around there would be nothing to make fun of. The tories knew what he meant really.
LOL at you all blaming brown for a world wide recession which Had started in the US There was no way at all that we couldve avoided the recession no matter WHAT brown did it was out of his control because it was GLOBAL.
I just hate the popular notion that the state of the country right now is ENTIRELY labours fault.
Britain has been in debt for decades people didnt hear thatcher or major say shit about any debt did you no because it didnt suit. The crooked unelected fuck Cameron (remember he WASNT elected) is ruining our nation right now by cutting to the bone and using this deficit to justify it, how the fuck does he expect to get people spending if hes removing their means of doing so.
Umm I think you'll find thatcher REMOVED a huge deficit and toyn blair has literally just borrowed trillions with no intention of paying it back, and hid all his real intentions to stay in power(otherwise he would obviouslty have no votes, even major said earlier that he was hiding his policies), just remember that whilst we would most likely be in recession now it would be far FAR less bad if we weren;t in trillions of debt and so tied up to the E.U and their problems.
@403766 Umm how did thatcher remove a huge deficit? Did she do this by destroying britains manufacturing industry meaning we had to spend money to import everything? (example COAL!)
Or was it by selling off our Telecommunications, Rail, water and power industries which we NOW have to pay for?
or was it the fact she dragged us through THREE tory provoked recessions in her time?
SHE created her part deficit so dont praise her for trying to remove it.
...BUT the more I hear about our last Labour Governments' "initiatives", the more shocked and outraged I become!
The PFIs, PPPs and every other variation has done nothing but put our nation in MASSIVE FUTURE DEBT to private stock holders, who's ONLY real interest is their OWN POCKET!
There will be NO GREAT BENEFIT.
We will pay huge bills to simply keep the country running..
@BlackRoof a Labour voter all your life and you realised the legacy when??? were you waking up from a massive high? ^_* I'd been noticing this stuff in my teens in sixth form since 2003/2004...'what comes up' my logic thought, 'must come down'...and boy did it! even with Labour's help. Although I would like to see more creativity in dealing with the debt. I'd rather see a Con-Dem nation than a Rui-nation
@ADMERALSMITH With Europe CONSTANTLY threatening to fall apart, we are already using band aids that will cost BILLIONS, even though we are only on the periphery.
WE HAVE SIGNED FURTHER TENS OF BILLIONS INTO PFI "MORTGAGES" and our Governments (labour and conseravative) keep signing us into more debt, just to be able to CLAIM spending.
All they are doing using the international bankers version of CASH CONVERTERS (a
@ADMERALSMITH They don't care about how much FUTURE debt they sign us into because they are only interested in securing THEIR NEXT TERM OF OFFICE; after which, whoever caused the problem is academic.
They will be rich enough by then to do what they like. WE WILL BE THE ONES SADDLED WITH THEIR BILL!
Example: Thatcher was a prudent leader?
THATCHER STARTED SELLING THIS COUNTRY'S PRIVATE ASSETTS FROM BENEATH US, took the credit as if it were smart and then routted social housing!
@BlackRoof.......You are full of the Brown stuff I guess you vote Labour????Maggie sold them for a Profit!!!! Unlike New labour that spent and Borrowed.....New Labour....No brains...Ed Milliband.....A man for Unions just like the 1970's....
She sold everything she could lay her hands on from national utilities to social housing!
She turned her monetaristic eye on the poor, selling them shares and their council homes, then controlled what was in their pockets via interest rates.
EVERY Government since has raided national assets in search of a little more liquidity, to win a few more votes by spending money they don't have!
@BlackRoof Margaret Thatcher was the last prime minister to understand economics! unlike urself and labour. The reason the labour government after her were so "successful" was because they spent all of the wealth she had generated for the UK on the people and then continued spending putting us into a near irreversible debt!
@MrPlayfulpenis Thatchers "boom" years were paid for by raiding national assets and the bank accounts of the working class.
A lot of cash was generated by mortgages for coucil homes, which are still being paid off now. How many homes were sold, bought with working class savings, instead of being paid into pensions?
Add to that the share flotations worth billions of dollars... ...and BINGO, you know why so much CASH suddenly appeared in Thatcher's slush fund!
@MrPlayfulpenis As a result, it now takes five different middle men to change a school light bulb; each of whom takes their cut!
...and each successive Government (every one) has stuck us a bit further in hock, simply to create WHAT LOOKS LIKE a bit more cash; but in fact each has been selling us a bit further into debt.
@MrPlayfulpenis look at the shit were in now after thatcher sold all our assets ,look at the price of gas and and electisity we have to pay compared to the rest of europe because she sold it all off.
Im no labour fan but she fucked this country up in a big way ,went from being a country that made stuff to a country that makes fuckall
@ADMERALSMITH Thatcher started it and the trend HASN'T STOPPED SINCE!
How to secure a UK term of office?
SELL ASSETTS to free up cash, as a "deposit".
REMOVE RESTRICTIONS for anyone with powerful lumps of cash, to secure support "from the city".
SELL UK SERVICES into the private sector to free you of responsibilities.
Rub your hands with glee as you sell BRITAIN further down the river, but knowing that you'll have a few houses in the South of France by the time the bill comes in!
With the government signing ever larger PPIs and PFIs (costing BILLIONS of pounds per year) ...then, for example, putting 1300 people out of work in a Derby train builders, whilst signing a 1.5 Billion pund deal in Germany for trains...
...I don't think YOU know.
The British government is simply SELLING OFF or MORTGAGING DOWN THE RIVER all our industries, assetts and resources; in search for vote winning BITS N' PIECES that look like vote winners.
@BlackRoof erm mate all governments are like this!! do u really think any government would want ordinary people to prosper instead of themselves!!!?? seriously people need to be less naive no party is for the people that voted them in. its a freacking fact that the last 40 years has shown
This is ridiculous. We are sleep walking into low cost lives as corporate zombies.
WE NEED TO HOLD THEM DOWN AND REGULATE THEM O-U-R-S-E-L-V-E-S!
They constantly whine that regulation will only slow the markets or harm efficiency, whilst they are busy selling OUR PUBLIC SERVICES to each other by the back door, then charging us through the nose for them.
The UK is paying £40,000 per day rent on 8 fire stations it will NEVER use, total £342m, after a PFI!
@Jangalene1 actually the economy grew when the tories came in in the past 3 months. the recovery is slow but there is growth. However, we dont live in a vacuum and there cant be a leap of growth immediately, considering the bitchy problems in the eurozone and the stagnant growth in america - 2 major trading partners of Britain.
13 years of labour was the worst period in modern history.
@Wisdomfanatic2011 I don't see how Labour can be blamed for what is a global financial crisis; infact, as I recall, everybody was happy in the early booming years of the 21st C. Google "hapathy" (with an H) - it's a real term used by political commentators. It relates to a feeling of contentedness, especially in times of economic prosperity.
Infact, as far as I'm concerned, a government without a deficit is not a government; Britain (England before 1707) has had a deficit since Queen Elizabeth I
@BasilFawlty4444 lol what a lame excuse. tell me when NHS was created and when the nanny state experiment was implemented. reckless spending!
the labour government and their trade union supporters bloated the government to triple digit budget deficits.
a government with a huge budget deficit is a dysfunctional government. Since the Union in 1707, Scotland was highly subsidized by England. In 1809 Scotland was bankrupt because it spent beyond its means that caused England to bail it out.
@BasilFawlty4444 BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT! just like a socialist to say that a government without a deficit is not a government at all! All Labour does is go "IF I SPEND MORE ON STUFF AND GIVE OUT MORE WELFARE, EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT!" then everything goes to hell and you go, well a government without a deficit isn't really a government. So in other words, success isn't really what you want cause then everything would go wrong, I hate economic recovery too...
Are you familiar with Keynesian economics? The theory that most major economic powers (including the US) are implementing to counteract the economic crisis, but Britain is doing the opposite?
Keynes' theory holds that an economy should be mainly private, but that public sector work should take a proportion to absorb unemployment.
But, most importantly, a government should SPEND MORE THAN USUAL in times of economic crisis, to avert further collapse.
@BasilFawlty4444 Sorry, did I say we were recovering? nope, but you as usual use socialist tactics to try and pull bullshit out of thin air. Also Keynesian economics, yes I am very familiar with that medieval merchants system, but just cause you can quote it doesn't magically make it proven and effective!
In fact it is constantly proven ineffective and is used again and again and fails again and again, Barack Obama proved that!
@BasilFawlty4444 Are YOU familiar with the Austrian School of Economics and their modus operandi?
their theory says that an economy should be mainly free from state intervention, including restrictive regulations, taxes, tariffs and enforced monopolies.
But more importantly it requests that governments do not do stupid things like procure "stimulus" packages, because THEY DON'T WORK! they just waste money!
@TheConnorian Classical economics just doesn't work; culling public services at such a rate is not going to do anything to stimulate economic growth. In terms of a completely independent economy, would you have had the government allow the banks to collapse?
The economic policies adopted by the US in the New Deal programme 1933-1936 were very Keynesian in nature, and increased American GDP by 60%, private investment 5x over, consumer goods sales by 40%, and decreasing unemployment by 5 million.
@BasilFawlty4444 First of all it sounds like you are relating me to a conservative supporter? if so stop, I am UKIP, and they are far from the conservatives. Also Banks doesn't come into laissez faire (the main reason I enjoy the Austrian School of Economics theory), Banks need to be fitted with a straight jacket, otherwise they single handedly destroy the economy. Also bailing out the banks never helps, it just buys you a few more years and makes actual recovery further off.
@BasilFawlty4444 Also for me to believe those statistics you whipped out of thin air, you need to show me evidence from reliable sources. Also I just had a quick check and it seems that you are lying according to history, the GDP simply restored itself to its pre-collapse state, unemployment went from 20% to 15% yes a 5% change but only after this Keynesianism was thrown off did it return to about 5-6% unemployment. That is all I have confirmed.
@TheConnorian Clearly, Keynesian economics worked to help the USA on the way to recovery... so by restoring GDP to it's pre-crash level it was a success. Undeniably, Keynesianism reduces unemploylent. Thus Keynesianism is suitable for application in times of crisis.
Further, I am not surprised that the Amerian national product came in at where it is at that time. You must remember that it was still an up-and-coming superpower, and the world was still dominated by European empires and influence.
@BasilFawlty4444 Keynesian economics are not proven to work, they are more of a gamble with a chance of you recovering or you digging a deeper hole and they are definitely not the most efficient system outside of crisis and even in crisis I would prefer other systems.
@TheConnorian So we should follow the Classical theory and let the economy collapse... But it's all OK because it's for the sake of the free market and non-governmental intervention.
Sometimes the government must intervene for the sake of the economy and the future of the country. I don't blame Brown for the economic crisis, or the deficit. Take a closer look, and you'll see (as most leading economists will vouch) that Brown saved the economy from collapse.
@BasilFawlty4444 With other systems in place we wouldn't constantly be in this position of flip flop from crisis to recovery back to crisis. I personally think that Labour caused the problem and solved a miniscule part of it and now its up to more economically savvy parties like the Tories and UKIP to deal with the problem in hand.
@TheConnorian I'm sorry, did you just call the Tories "economically savvy"? Are you forgetting the unemployed rates from Wales and the North? - thank you Mrs Thatcher. The party that wants to cut the 50p tax?! The reason there is no industry left?
Do you really think UKIP is a viable alternative? For example, they actually want to reform the armed forces into an organisational structure incompatible with European armies. If you ask me that's plain irresponsible - what if there's a large war?
@BasilFawlty4444 Unemployment? now or then, if now its labours fault if then then thatchers. I don't know anything about the 50p tax but if we are talking about tax, then labours it terrible, it held the position of 95th most attractive tax system in the world compared to the conservatives 4th and that "attractiveness" was based on public approval and economic efficiency. Also need I mention whose party leader sold gold when it was at it's lowest price in history?
@TheConnorian He sold it at $295 per ounce... worst still, they announced they would sell it - causing the price to drop drastically in anticipation of 300 tons of gold hitting the market.
If it were sold today, at 5 times the price... it was a true face palm moment, and one that needs to be constantly reminded as incredibly wasteful.
@Zoomer123 I know, he was a real idiot on economics, i mean the prime minister, of all people, should know simple supply and demand. Labour can't be trusted to do stuff properly with economics really but hey that's my opinion.
I just wish people would see that the three mainstream parties just aren't working well enough anymore.
@TheConnorian i wholly disagree on brown. he was a good chancellor, hey at least he was qualified unlike osborne. brown just lacked character, on the otherhand i wholly agree on the mmainstream party bit.
@dANNNimal I'll agree to disagree but then again I am biased of course due to being in complete support of another party. But it's an interesting thing that today teenagers are seeming to realise it isn't "cool" to go liberal or socialist but with the party that actually works.
@BasilFawlty4444 (cont) Also Labour caused the economy to have minimal growth with their economic system, at least the Tories will get us back on track to being a top notch economy.
@dANNNimal Don't worry, I learnt a few things in the past three weeks, I think that in truth if I had a penny for every lie they have made so far then I would be a billionaire.
@BasilFawlty4444 Now about UKIP, they are an amazing viable alternative economically, better than both labour and the Tories with economic matters. And the armed forces, hello, we are British, not spanish, not french, not german. We are not yet integrated into the EuSSR which I'm sure you socialist types love to pieces. We should work for britain first! not any other nation or people.
@BasilFawlty4444 And large war? I forget that we live in an age where war is more common than a twenty pence piece. And how will they reform it? because I've heard no such thing, strange you knowing more about my own party than I, give me evidence and facts please not crap.
@BasilFawlty4444 And you do know more spending means more taxing don't you, it ends up being an endless cycle. Spend and tax, spend and tax and spend some more until you are in the ditch with nothing.
@BasilFawlty4444 And one last thing, during that time when the new deal was adopted, the USA only just managed to keep national product above Canada and only just squeezed in above France.
All the labour did for the last 13 years was to engage in two wars, surrender more of Britain's power to the EUSSR, to expand the government so much that we have to pay for all of them now.
Everytime the labour party loses an election, there is always a financial crisis happening. lol and yet the labour socialist sheeps still rally under their socialist banner. lol pathetic!
btw, Socialism gave us the NHS - never forget that. Thank God for Attlee and Bevan! Don't confuse socialism with communism; this isn't America.
Oh, and the Conservatives voted IN FAVOUR of invading Iraq. Infact, 139 Labour MPs rebelled against Blair, voting AGAINST military action in Iraq... only 15 Tory MPs voted against invading. So before you wipe off all the blame for Iraq on Labour, remember - the Tories are just as much to blame.
@BasilFawlty4444 well the labour socialist government still caused the massive bloated government we have today... and their same comrades are now whining about the cuts to their socialist programs, which bloated the government. Even Gordon Brown's finance minister, Alistair Darling, said Brown's was a "brutal regime".
If you have any doubt how much of a "fucking disaster" the "One-eyed Scottish Idiot" was then google "Tullett Prebon Thinking the Unthinkable". It is 34 page report that describes a litany of failure and incompetence that characterized his time as Chancellor and PM. Brown just about fucked up everything he got his hands on .This shameless,reckless,mentally unstable, desperate moron has inflicted severe damage to this country that will not be undone for decades if ever.
@MissDumyat Well is David Cameron stopping married couples earning +£40k a year from receiving child benefits a sign that he hates them?
Of course a lot of people have been affected by the cuts but if the economy crashes and we end up like Ireland, Greece etc, then everybody will suffer and to a much greater extent. And I simply have to disagree that the Tory's see the public as a statistic any more than any other party.
@eDemocracyUK An interesting yet ridiculous and implausible theory. And clearly motivated by a hatred of Cameron & co. However I must admit when Ed Miliband became leader of the Labour party I had similar thoughts of conspiracy. He was a gift to the Tories.
@LowleyUK For example, the woman who was called a "bigot" by Gordon Brown when she gave him loads of hard questions....
It was Gordon Brown's own staff that put him in the situation, then "accidentally" recorded what he was saying about her privately, and it was broadcast to all of us, and we lapped it up
@eDemocracyUK Well I thought she was an ignorant, bigoted plebeian but that's just my opinion. Who knows what really happened but I wouldn't jump to conclusions without some form of evidence.
@eDemocracyUK You suspend judgement until evidence comes to light otherwise you could believe a whole host of things. Are the Lib dems in on this? The chances of a party other than Lab/Con is no significant. What other reason do you have to believe this? I am curious but extremely sceptical.
Andy Coulson was a corrupt spin doctor, necessary due to Murdoch's tabloids but I don't see the how that proves your theory.
The Lib Dems must be in on it, because Clegg is just along for the ride.
Murdoch was in power with Tony Blair and the Labour party, through the times of massive lending and huge immigration, and now Murdoch is in power with Cameron and the coalition, as they try to repair the damage done by Labour.
Next election will be won by Labour, and Murdoch will still be there. Just like the Rockefeller family are involved with US politics.
@eDemocracyUK I have no idea but everything you've said is just pure speculation, and I haven't even heard any mildly convincing reasons. Everybody knows Murdoch has too much influence but that says nothing about a government conspiracy, it would be foolish not to get him on side, though I disagree with it.
And I disagree, the next election will be won by a Tory majority. Labour have hardly any support thanks to Miliband and the Lib Dems lost a lot of their voters.
@LowleyUK Check out bnp.org and type in on youtube, nick griffin addresses the nation. liblabcon are all traitors to the people. They will take us to ww3 and attack Iran soon as well, because that is one big conspiracy that i can see coming true as well, the corrupt west attacks Iran and then starts off ww3, after ww3 they offer the people of the world a one world government and then our leaders real bosses aka rothschilds will rule the entire world. wake up.
@EvelcyclopS First of all, it is our country, and second when the nationalist revolution comes, and we have to take over to save our nation and our people from rape and terror and the fear of total white annihilation and persecution on our people, i hope you get it first. People like you and your left wing destructive nature have completely destroyed our nation to a ticking a bomb. And yet your so brainwashed by P.C propaganda you go around shouting abuse at the only people that will save
@EvelcyclopS our heritage, our history and our way of life, many b.n.p activists and people at the top like nick griffin go through hell every single day and constantly get hurled abuse by scum bags like you. Yet other areas the bnp are highly respected, we are the 4th biggest party in the u.k and the fastest growing. The sheeple are finally waking up.
@stokie1999999 you get abuse because you are a disgusting bunch of prejudiced retards. You aren't respected, you are loathed. I'm ashamed that people like you exist in our country.
Its a complete fucking disgrace how you can judge others for something they cant help, such as the colour of their skin or the country they were born in. Keep your mouth shut you intolerant cunt.
@EvelcyclopS Hmm we aren't respected? yep that's right, we only get over a million votes because only 20 percent of the population actually vote. We don't attack any other colour of skin and especially don't attack people who have been born here and paid into the system. Go to the the bnp website and have a look for yourself, it might actually turn that button off in your head that says liblabcon multi cult robot on it, and wake you up. We only attack the current governments for replacing us.
@stokie1999999 1m votes? Half that and you'd be close. But it means nothing anyway. Those 500k votes come from bnp supporting maggots, not from people who respect the BNP.
I respect people who vote for Labour, Lib Dems or Tories, i might happen to agree with everything they value, however i have respect for them. That is very fucking different to my opinion of you biggots, and while i cannot speak for the country as a whole, it would seem from various public campaigns, that i am not alone.
@EvelcyclopS Yes, over 1m votes in the European elections, check it out for your self. You respect people who vote liblabcon? People who took great out of Britain you mean? people who have give 80 percent of jobs to the immigrant, people who wasted billions on the E.U, illegal wars and foreign aid, yet our own people who built and fort for this nation, end up dying of cold through the winter because they have no money to put the heat on. We are ruled by the enemy with in. That's a fact.
@stokie1999999 if you think this countries problems are due to immigraton, i'm afraid you are deluded. claiming 80% of jobs go to immigrants is a sign of your hysteria. What is your plan for those of british origin who milk the benefits system? Eh? or is that their god given right as a 'god fearing proppah brittish person'.
and why use 2009 figures from an election the wider country couldnt give a fuck about? Why not use the 2010 general election figures? Cherry picking.
@EvelcyclopS The nations problems are due to being ran by the enemy with in, the government does not work for us, they work for the Rothschilds,and they hate white Europeans and David Cameron is a distant relative to them himself. The statistics are there, liebour created 2.4 million jobs in there time in power, and 80 percent of them were given to the immigrant. In a nationalist Britain there will be no job centers, the only people who will get benefit are those who are disabled.
@stokie1999999 go to bnp.org and actually look at there policy's your self. It is our duty to get the rest of the media brainwashed population and wake them out of there comber before our children and there children are persecuted in there own lands, and eventually come to the brink of annihilation.
@stokie1999999 What more will it take for people like you to decide that nationalism is the only way forward for our people? What more do you want ? lib and con pledged to cut outside E.U immigration to the thousands, only to find that in there first year, already let in six hundred thousand in. Lib pledged to not raise student fees, so they could get the vote of the student, and yet hmm i wonder what happened. When will you learn? They are greedy filth that constantly lie.
@LowleyUK Mildly convincing reasons? We were the most powerful country in the World. Now we're not even in the top 15 best places to live. We have some of the highest crime rates in Europe, we have the highest teen pregnacny rate in Europe, we have the highest heart attack rates in Europe, we have the highest STI rates in Europe, we have high unemployment, we have been fighting the War on Terror for over 10 years
I can go ON AND ON about how every Government is attacking this country
@MissDumyat Yes and I sympathise with you on a personal level, but this is about the future of our country and the debt that our children will inherit. You have to realise Labour spent money we simply didn't have, all the conservatives are doing is restoring the budget to a more realistic figure and getting the blame for it. Labour would be making around 80% of the very same cuts. Hopefully our economy will be in better shape in the future and we will have avoided the fate of poor EU countries.
@LowleyUK Dont vote liblabcon.. labour wasted billions, cons are doing the same but cutting our services at the same time to help give 6 billion in forein aid, 4.5 billion on afgan and 14 billion on the E.U. vote B.N.P to end this mess right now.
@stokie1999999 To not vote Tory would mean a victory for Lib or Lab which would really spell the end for England. I agree that foreign aid is far to high for countries that are developing space programs and I agree the EU have too much control. Afghanistan is worth the money. And I couldn't vote for a party that is racist even though I agree immigration is far too high.
@LowleyUK You are fooling your self, liblabcon are one big party, just a bunch of crooks who only care about one thing. I can tell that your a big victim of the propaganda war machine. You need to learn a few things about the liblabcon and how they all share the same guilt. You need to learn how that afghan is a waste of money and great life, i have worked out that we have spent over 100 billion in there since the start of the war and that's not counting Iraq.
@MissDumyat Fiscal responsibility is vital during these financially uncertain times. Labour exacerbated the problem (and that's putting it mildly) and anyone naive enough to trust them again doesn't deserve have a clue about politics or the economic knife edge the capitalist world is on. Nobody wants to see people lose their jobs but this is the real world where people aren't kept employed as to avoid hurt feelings. Stop whining and propagating fear, David Cameron - Deserves Credit.
Anyone notice Gordon surrounding himself with women in white coats to enhance his aura? I would have preferred men in white coats taking him back to the asylum
@welshpollypanad Go tell it to families who have had members killed or raped by asylum seekers/immigrants with criminal records who should have been deported but were re-released into our society and this useless twat did nothing about it.
@Bellalodicci9 Yeh, well said. it's staggering isn't it. All this nonsense about a right to a family or right to a home. Piss off, they shouldn't have murdered somebody then.
@Bellalodicci9 their all useless twats what the fuck has cameron done about anything? other than take from the poor to support the rich? all in this together my arse. thats why london gets the biggest fucking budget to play with and all labour constituencies get fuck all and its in those constituencies that are having to make the cuts. Gordon brown was an idiot? PFFFF you aint seen fuck all yet from our chancellor osborne who isnt even qualified for the fucking job.
In actual fact, if someone is shown to have a criminal record they are deported. That's the law that's what happens. This bullshit urban myth about immigrant rapists and murderers comes purely from the fabricated mindset of the right wing, sewn together with disperate facts.
@fodsaks ... torries and fucking lib dems have turned out to be more lethal and devastating than labour... they are making mess while telling others they are clearing it.. we weren't that sick and tired of labour as much we are off these bastards
Labour complaining about the Coalition austerity policies are like throwing a wild party and totally trashing your house, and then complaining next morning, because your flatmate's hoovering is too loud.
What's lethal and devastating is bringing a G8 country to the very brink of bankruptcy by spending like a drunk sailor!
I profess some affection for Gordon Brown. The man was preternaturally pained. I prefer the commons to congress. I personally think you shouldn't trust politicians with teeth you can see from space
0% growth is better than the negative growth we're currently acheiving under the Tories.
Seriously some people need to get over their Daily Mail & Torygraph manufactured hatred of Gordon Brown and accept that he managed to keep the country stable and unemployment minimal in what was the worst ever global recession since the great depression.
We've flatlined. Over the past 6 or so months our total growth has been 0%, pretty pathetic considering our main European competitors (France, Germany etc) are acheving between 1.5 - 3 % growth. This is all directly because of the Tories reckless, idelogical driven cuts they've implemented. We're not going to reduce the defecit if we don't grow. It's basic stuff.
@FannoFlow did you even lisen to the video? 0% from Labor. lets not forget, if Lavour hadent bankrup the contry there wouldent need to be cuts in the first place, infact their objective would to increse funding to the police, any meny more. i think Labours slogan should be "what mony?".
@whattyhoo im deslexic, altho you probably dont know what that is becuse of Labours poor education standerds. not to mention your not even educated in manners. also im not a tory, i vote for the independent. also you have no consideration for people who have aids so you can rot in hell. go nigal frage
Your response to a reasonable argument is to resort to mindless insults? That shows the quality (lack of) of your intellect. You can't criticise the spelling of another when you cannot even respond to them in a respectful and considered way.
There's such a thing called constructive criticism, but I know it's a pipe dream to expect manners from a leftist thug. I'll just carry along basking in my own superiority over you dear sir
@Hamilcar275 "basking in my own superiority over you"???? Perhaps you should become more assiduous in considering the coherence of your own sentences before you mount your high horse, you MASSIVE TWAT!!! The only dreams you have are wet ones, probably about other men’s "pipes" you tory faggot. Oh and before I forget, do not ever call me sir again, you pompous cunt!! I am a CHICK and I will KICK the ever living SHIT out of you.
You don't do much the uphold the dignity of your gender... you should calm down dear, it's bad for your blood pressure to be this angry.
I've heard better insults from 13 year olds, who would probably consider your joke to be highly amusing because of their undeveloped brains. Please message me back when you have something infinitely more witty and amusing, because that was just plain awful my lady.
You rather prove my point don't you? You criticise me for asking you why you are insufferably rude to those you disagree with, and you get hot and bothered when you disagree with me. You're just a jumped up little hypocrite aren't you madam
@Hamilcar275 is that the line you use when you pre maturely ejaculate into your boyfriends asshole. "I cum fast what can I say?" Nothing you useless cunt!!! People like you who are pretentious and moronic should say FUCK ALL, keep the curtains drawn and get back to watching the Star Trek commentary on their dvd player. Oh I know what you’re thinking “how insufferably rude” where the fuck are you from a Jeeves and Wooster novel?
Aww you're getting angry now dear lady... I would pity you if you wouldn't be offended by it. You've lost the argument so you call me gay... doesn't that go against leftist toleration of 'alternative' lifestyles? Jeeves and Wooster is fiction dear, this is real life, no matter how much it challenges you. But again you prove my point, you don't mind being beastly to someone, but when someone does it back, you get all emotional and menstrual.
@FannoFlow Gordon Browns answer was to spend money we didn't have to promote growth. That's a false economy and totally ridiculous economics. How is running up a deficit of nearly £2 billion per year keeping the country stable?
Incorrect. I get tired of repeating this but the defecit only ballooned around 2007/2008 when Northeren Rock hit the fan and the early signs of the global recession hit. In Labour's early years they were very frugal with money and were able to generate healthy growth whilst improving public services and removing the inequalities and unfairness in society that the Tories had promoted.
@FannoFlow We went from being in surplus to a deficit in 2002. We reduced our deficit slightly only for it to go crazy around 07/08 as you mention. This global recession was caused by governments spending beyond their means and banks encouraging people to take out loans and spend money they didn't have, and had no chance of repaying.
Yes we were in a defecit from 2002 - 2007 but it was relatively small and controlled. No worse then any of the defecit's run up under Thatcher or the Tories. In fact most economists agree that you have to go into a controlled defecit in order to continue growing.
It was the Americans who were mainly responsible for forcing people morgagtes and loans to unsuitable people, our banks just greedily took it of their hands in the repackaged form of "securities" ....
.......and ended up with it when the shit hit the fan.
At the time our banks were making a killing and were helping our ecomony boom - any chancellor would have been mad to interfere in that growth. Obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing but at that time Labour were rightly concerned with growth. Nothing would have been different under the Tories - in fact they were arguing for less regulation so we would be in an even worse predicament.
@FannoFlow But wasn't it Labour that deregulated the B.O.E? If our economy is booming on borrowed money it will eventually crash. Gordon Brown arrogantly announced he had ended the Boom and Bust natural economic cycle. He allowed banks to lend irresponsibly, spent more money than his Government were making, and made no sensible investments. We were in a structural deficit BEFORE the recession. Why did Labour spend so much and create a huge deficit throughout a boom it makes no sense?
The major problem was that banks were selling and buying AAA rated bonds that were in fact junk. The banks insured against them failing, so could see no risk to themselves. Once people started defaulting on their mortgages, the market collapsed. The slow recovery in the UK is partly due to the high level of personal debt and that the banks are reluctant to lend. 20% VAT and high fuel prices are not helping.
Greed and regulatory failings in the USA derivatives markets caused this.
We are all fucked thanks to everyone buying way beyond thier means and all the jobs going to China so well done britain
snoozingphil 8 hours ago
Look at that Labour frontbench just reminds me why I hate that party so much.
DMG118 1 day ago
The faces on the Labour front bench is a picture.
349quinman 2 days ago
Browns a cunt, end off and as for bliar, fair? he just paid his tax on his earnings at 3%!!! glad i am not him though, just imagine waking up in the morning to motor gob cherie!
crozwayne 2 days ago
brown wasnt all that bad man he was rabidly opposed to joining the euro which we can all agree now was a pretty good decision
midgetman8888 1 week ago
speaking of 0% growth.....look what the Tories had delivered
BlakeInternational 1 week ago
@BlakeInternational More than 0! Just a little bit, but every little helps!
formulacountdown 1 week ago
I used to support Labour, but there progression of leaders have got weaker and weaker. Ed Milliband gets absolutley battered every PMQ's They need someone who can take on Cameron.
TheBitmapBrother 2 weeks ago
0% sums that idiot up..thanks Brown/blair..
BREDATOR1 1 month ago
Brown like blair Sold some of our rules on Taxes and spending to the EU!¬!!!....SO why Not the PM stand for our rights,,,Given Away under New Labour...
pogsboo 1 month ago
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Everyone should read "Gordon is a moron" by Vernon Coleman and pass it on to their descendants so they about the fucking useless , incompetent cunt who destroyed this country.
Bellalodicci9 1 month ago
Look at the state Germany was in after the world war lol. Also, without debt what is the point of money? Compare this country to others and you realise for a small island with a small population we are able to compete. What we need is to instil a more positive attitude along the lines of "it isn't what your country can do for you, it is what you can do for you country" then the recession would be truly over.
NICH0LASM 1 month ago
Oh look, he took the piss out of brown, now he is in power... you need a microscope to find growth in the UK...
NICH0LASM 1 month ago
This "fucking disaster" allowed the country to be subjected to uncontrolled mass immigration. Go into any city and town now and compare it to 10 years ago. Makes you want to smash this cunts head in.
Bellalodicci9 1 month ago
Anybody else notice that the two women either side of him look exactly the same?
SanctifiedBolter 1 month ago
very good quality
terroneonline223 2 months ago
vote UKIP
Emergency739 2 months ago
Well, at least he's being honest! That's something rare in a politician...honesty.
OceanbornAngel 2 months ago
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Oh big deal he said it the wrong way around, it's clear what he meant, it would continue to rise in 2011/12 and then in 2013/14 it would be 0%. If he had said it THAT way around there would be nothing to make fun of. The tories knew what he meant really.
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MrGurlyboy 2 months ago
This has been edited to make his point seem nonsensical. It had a point in there somewhere, but he just failed at delivering it, as he so often did.
plebmonk 2 months ago
at least it's not a 0% fall
TheBrujah87 3 months ago
For gods sake...
snaggypaggy 3 months ago
LOL at you all blaming brown for a world wide recession which Had started in the US There was no way at all that we couldve avoided the recession no matter WHAT brown did it was out of his control because it was GLOBAL.
dANNNimal 3 months ago
The arrogance of the fucker is only dwarfed by the pricks ego.
dANNNimal 3 months ago
I just hate the popular notion that the state of the country right now is ENTIRELY labours fault.
Britain has been in debt for decades people didnt hear thatcher or major say shit about any debt did you no because it didnt suit. The crooked unelected fuck Cameron (remember he WASNT elected) is ruining our nation right now by cutting to the bone and using this deficit to justify it, how the fuck does he expect to get people spending if hes removing their means of doing so.
dANNNimal 3 months ago
@dANNNimal
Umm I think you'll find thatcher REMOVED a huge deficit and toyn blair has literally just borrowed trillions with no intention of paying it back, and hid all his real intentions to stay in power(otherwise he would obviouslty have no votes, even major said earlier that he was hiding his policies), just remember that whilst we would most likely be in recession now it would be far FAR less bad if we weren;t in trillions of debt and so tied up to the E.U and their problems.
403766 3 months ago
@403766 Umm how did thatcher remove a huge deficit? Did she do this by destroying britains manufacturing industry meaning we had to spend money to import everything? (example COAL!)
Or was it by selling off our Telecommunications, Rail, water and power industries which we NOW have to pay for?
or was it the fact she dragged us through THREE tory provoked recessions in her time?
SHE created her part deficit so dont praise her for trying to remove it.
the bitch served company directors NOT britain
dANNNimal 3 months ago
If only my weight would also rise by 0% no matter how much junk food I eat.....
oliness 3 months ago
What a useless lying treacherous arse he is!!!!!!!!!
VanRomPuyArse 4 months ago
I have been a labour voter my entire life...
...BUT the more I hear about our last Labour Governments' "initiatives", the more shocked and outraged I become!
The PFIs, PPPs and every other variation has done nothing but put our nation in MASSIVE FUTURE DEBT to private stock holders, who's ONLY real interest is their OWN POCKET!
There will be NO GREAT BENEFIT.
We will pay huge bills to simply keep the country running..
and services will be run BY THE LOWEST BIDDERS!
SLAP DASH UK
BlackRoof 4 months ago 18
@BlackRoof a Labour voter all your life and you realised the legacy when??? were you waking up from a massive high? ^_* I'd been noticing this stuff in my teens in sixth form since 2003/2004...'what comes up' my logic thought, 'must come down'...and boy did it! even with Labour's help. Although I would like to see more creativity in dealing with the debt. I'd rather see a Con-Dem nation than a Rui-nation
Tenkensoujiro666 1 month ago
@Tenkensoujiro666 WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
I don't think you know.
Cameron has continued signing PPPs and PFis (more than 40) so don't start trying to pull your right wing rhetoric on me.
Cameron is continuing to MORTGAGE Britain into poverty.
-and I mean REAL poverty.
Not just a few less Xbox accounts; I mean Ukraine type cold war poverty.
Thatcher started the trend by selling BT, British Gas & council housing.
Then kissed bankers asses whilst using monetarism to make mortgagees pay!
BlackRoof 1 month ago
@BlackRoof I don't think YOU know
The deficit will be almost completely gone by 2018.
The economy will not go back into recession, but will progressively get better after 2012.
Once growth is back and the deficit is gone, then Britain can go back to the prosperous capitalist society that it truly is.
I don't know where you got Ukraine type poverty from, but you are clearly exaggerating.
ADMERALSMITH 1 month ago
@ADMERALSMITH With Europe CONSTANTLY threatening to fall apart, we are already using band aids that will cost BILLIONS, even though we are only on the periphery.
WE HAVE SIGNED FURTHER TENS OF BILLIONS INTO PFI "MORTGAGES" and our Governments (labour and conseravative) keep signing us into more debt, just to be able to CLAIM spending.
All they are doing using the international bankers version of CASH CONVERTERS (a
pawn shop)!
Who needs to worry about that? THEY DON'T CARE!
BlackRoof 1 month ago
@ADMERALSMITH They don't care about how much FUTURE debt they sign us into because they are only interested in securing THEIR NEXT TERM OF OFFICE; after which, whoever caused the problem is academic.
They will be rich enough by then to do what they like. WE WILL BE THE ONES SADDLED WITH THEIR BILL!
Example: Thatcher was a prudent leader?
THATCHER STARTED SELLING THIS COUNTRY'S PRIVATE ASSETTS FROM BENEATH US, took the credit as if it were smart and then routted social housing!
BlackRoof 1 month ago
@BlackRoof.......You are full of the Brown stuff I guess you vote Labour????Maggie sold them for a Profit!!!! Unlike New labour that spent and Borrowed.....New Labour....No brains...Ed Milliband.....A man for Unions just like the 1970's....
pogsboo 1 month ago
@pogsboo What?
THATCHER started this DOWNWARD SPIRAL.
She sold everything she could lay her hands on from national utilities to social housing!
She turned her monetaristic eye on the poor, selling them shares and their council homes, then controlled what was in their pockets via interest rates.
EVERY Government since has raided national assets in search of a little more liquidity, to win a few more votes by spending money they don't have!
What next, PARKS? Oh no, they tried already!
BlackRoof 4 weeks ago 2
@BlackRoof Margaret Thatcher was the last prime minister to understand economics! unlike urself and labour. The reason the labour government after her were so "successful" was because they spent all of the wealth she had generated for the UK on the people and then continued spending putting us into a near irreversible debt!
MrPlayfulpenis 3 weeks ago
@MrPlayfulpenis Spot on. Labour are shit.
Bellalodicci9 2 weeks ago
@MrPlayfulpenis Thatchers "boom" years were paid for by raiding national assets and the bank accounts of the working class.
A lot of cash was generated by mortgages for coucil homes, which are still being paid off now. How many homes were sold, bought with working class savings, instead of being paid into pensions?
Add to that the share flotations worth billions of dollars... ...and BINGO, you know why so much CASH suddenly appeared in Thatcher's slush fund!
BlackRoof 2 weeks ago
@MrPlayfulpenis As a result, it now takes five different middle men to change a school light bulb; each of whom takes their cut!
...and each successive Government (every one) has stuck us a bit further in hock, simply to create WHAT LOOKS LIKE a bit more cash; but in fact each has been selling us a bit further into debt.
BlackRoof 2 weeks ago
@MrPlayfulpenis look at the shit were in now after thatcher sold all our assets ,look at the price of gas and and electisity we have to pay compared to the rest of europe because she sold it all off.
Im no labour fan but she fucked this country up in a big way ,went from being a country that made stuff to a country that makes fuckall
701shep 1 week ago
@ADMERALSMITH Thatcher started it and the trend HASN'T STOPPED SINCE!
How to secure a UK term of office?
SELL ASSETTS to free up cash, as a "deposit".
REMOVE RESTRICTIONS for anyone with powerful lumps of cash, to secure support "from the city".
SELL UK SERVICES into the private sector to free you of responsibilities.
Rub your hands with glee as you sell BRITAIN further down the river, but knowing that you'll have a few houses in the South of France by the time the bill comes in!
BlackRoof 1 month ago
@ADMERALSMITH Wrong!
With the government signing ever larger PPIs and PFIs (costing BILLIONS of pounds per year) ...then, for example, putting 1300 people out of work in a Derby train builders, whilst signing a 1.5 Billion pund deal in Germany for trains...
...I don't think YOU know.
The British government is simply SELLING OFF or MORTGAGING DOWN THE RIVER all our industries, assetts and resources; in search for vote winning BITS N' PIECES that look like vote winners.
BlackRoof 1 month ago
@BlackRoof erm mate all governments are like this!! do u really think any government would want ordinary people to prosper instead of themselves!!!?? seriously people need to be less naive no party is for the people that voted them in. its a freacking fact that the last 40 years has shown
supamanluva4 1 month ago
@supamanluva4 40 years? More like 500!
This is ridiculous. We are sleep walking into low cost lives as corporate zombies.
WE NEED TO HOLD THEM DOWN AND REGULATE THEM O-U-R-S-E-L-V-E-S!
They constantly whine that regulation will only slow the markets or harm efficiency, whilst they are busy selling OUR PUBLIC SERVICES to each other by the back door, then charging us through the nose for them.
The UK is paying £40,000 per day rent on 8 fire stations it will NEVER use, total £342m, after a PFI!
BlackRoof 1 month ago
@BlackRoof And it's idiots like you that blindly put faith in them in the first place and got them elected.
OSXHD 17 hours ago
@OSXHD They might make that MISTAKE...
...but the Conservative Party will backslide and make deals to their own advantage (and at our expense) quite OPENLY!
I'd rather deal with an idiot labour Gov than a DISHONEST, UNCARING conservative one!
They are named CONSERVE-ATIVE to tell us what they do. They SAVE THEMSELVES AT ALL COSTS to the rest of the world!
BlackRoof 2 hours ago
Brown was a walking disaster.
Uberdude25 4 months ago 7
Guys Speading not growth...
heykasabian 4 months ago
That answer may back fire on the Tories now?lol
Jangalene1 4 months ago
@Jangalene1 actually the economy grew when the tories came in in the past 3 months. the recovery is slow but there is growth. However, we dont live in a vacuum and there cant be a leap of growth immediately, considering the bitchy problems in the eurozone and the stagnant growth in america - 2 major trading partners of Britain.
13 years of labour was the worst period in modern history.
Wisdomfanatic2011 4 months ago
@Wisdomfanatic2011 I don't see how Labour can be blamed for what is a global financial crisis; infact, as I recall, everybody was happy in the early booming years of the 21st C. Google "hapathy" (with an H) - it's a real term used by political commentators. It relates to a feeling of contentedness, especially in times of economic prosperity.
Infact, as far as I'm concerned, a government without a deficit is not a government; Britain (England before 1707) has had a deficit since Queen Elizabeth I
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 lol what a lame excuse. tell me when NHS was created and when the nanny state experiment was implemented. reckless spending!
the labour government and their trade union supporters bloated the government to triple digit budget deficits.
a government with a huge budget deficit is a dysfunctional government. Since the Union in 1707, Scotland was highly subsidized by England. In 1809 Scotland was bankrupt because it spent beyond its means that caused England to bail it out.
Wisdomfanatic2011 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT! just like a socialist to say that a government without a deficit is not a government at all! All Labour does is go "IF I SPEND MORE ON STUFF AND GIVE OUT MORE WELFARE, EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT!" then everything goes to hell and you go, well a government without a deficit isn't really a government. So in other words, success isn't really what you want cause then everything would go wrong, I hate economic recovery too...
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@TheConnorian ha! What recovery?
Are you familiar with Keynesian economics? The theory that most major economic powers (including the US) are implementing to counteract the economic crisis, but Britain is doing the opposite?
Keynes' theory holds that an economy should be mainly private, but that public sector work should take a proportion to absorb unemployment.
But, most importantly, a government should SPEND MORE THAN USUAL in times of economic crisis, to avert further collapse.
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Sorry, did I say we were recovering? nope, but you as usual use socialist tactics to try and pull bullshit out of thin air. Also Keynesian economics, yes I am very familiar with that medieval merchants system, but just cause you can quote it doesn't magically make it proven and effective!
In fact it is constantly proven ineffective and is used again and again and fails again and again, Barack Obama proved that!
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Are YOU familiar with the Austrian School of Economics and their modus operandi?
their theory says that an economy should be mainly free from state intervention, including restrictive regulations, taxes, tariffs and enforced monopolies.
But more importantly it requests that governments do not do stupid things like procure "stimulus" packages, because THEY DON'T WORK! they just waste money!
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@TheConnorian Classical economics just doesn't work; culling public services at such a rate is not going to do anything to stimulate economic growth. In terms of a completely independent economy, would you have had the government allow the banks to collapse?
The economic policies adopted by the US in the New Deal programme 1933-1936 were very Keynesian in nature, and increased American GDP by 60%, private investment 5x over, consumer goods sales by 40%, and decreasing unemployment by 5 million.
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 First of all it sounds like you are relating me to a conservative supporter? if so stop, I am UKIP, and they are far from the conservatives. Also Banks doesn't come into laissez faire (the main reason I enjoy the Austrian School of Economics theory), Banks need to be fitted with a straight jacket, otherwise they single handedly destroy the economy. Also bailing out the banks never helps, it just buys you a few more years and makes actual recovery further off.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Also for me to believe those statistics you whipped out of thin air, you need to show me evidence from reliable sources. Also I just had a quick check and it seems that you are lying according to history, the GDP simply restored itself to its pre-collapse state, unemployment went from 20% to 15% yes a 5% change but only after this Keynesianism was thrown off did it return to about 5-6% unemployment. That is all I have confirmed.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@TheConnorian Clearly, Keynesian economics worked to help the USA on the way to recovery... so by restoring GDP to it's pre-crash level it was a success. Undeniably, Keynesianism reduces unemploylent. Thus Keynesianism is suitable for application in times of crisis.
Further, I am not surprised that the Amerian national product came in at where it is at that time. You must remember that it was still an up-and-coming superpower, and the world was still dominated by European empires and influence.
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Keynesian economics are not proven to work, they are more of a gamble with a chance of you recovering or you digging a deeper hole and they are definitely not the most efficient system outside of crisis and even in crisis I would prefer other systems.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@TheConnorian So we should follow the Classical theory and let the economy collapse... But it's all OK because it's for the sake of the free market and non-governmental intervention.
Sometimes the government must intervene for the sake of the economy and the future of the country. I don't blame Brown for the economic crisis, or the deficit. Take a closer look, and you'll see (as most leading economists will vouch) that Brown saved the economy from collapse.
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 With other systems in place we wouldn't constantly be in this position of flip flop from crisis to recovery back to crisis. I personally think that Labour caused the problem and solved a miniscule part of it and now its up to more economically savvy parties like the Tories and UKIP to deal with the problem in hand.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@TheConnorian I'm sorry, did you just call the Tories "economically savvy"? Are you forgetting the unemployed rates from Wales and the North? - thank you Mrs Thatcher. The party that wants to cut the 50p tax?! The reason there is no industry left?
Do you really think UKIP is a viable alternative? For example, they actually want to reform the armed forces into an organisational structure incompatible with European armies. If you ask me that's plain irresponsible - what if there's a large war?
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Unemployment? now or then, if now its labours fault if then then thatchers. I don't know anything about the 50p tax but if we are talking about tax, then labours it terrible, it held the position of 95th most attractive tax system in the world compared to the conservatives 4th and that "attractiveness" was based on public approval and economic efficiency. Also need I mention whose party leader sold gold when it was at it's lowest price in history?
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@TheConnorian He sold it at $295 per ounce... worst still, they announced they would sell it - causing the price to drop drastically in anticipation of 300 tons of gold hitting the market.
If it were sold today, at 5 times the price... it was a true face palm moment, and one that needs to be constantly reminded as incredibly wasteful.
Zoomer123 4 months ago
@Zoomer123 I know, he was a real idiot on economics, i mean the prime minister, of all people, should know simple supply and demand. Labour can't be trusted to do stuff properly with economics really but hey that's my opinion.
I just wish people would see that the three mainstream parties just aren't working well enough anymore.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@TheConnorian i wholly disagree on brown. he was a good chancellor, hey at least he was qualified unlike osborne. brown just lacked character, on the otherhand i wholly agree on the mmainstream party bit.
dANNNimal 3 months ago
@dANNNimal I'll agree to disagree but then again I am biased of course due to being in complete support of another party. But it's an interesting thing that today teenagers are seeming to realise it isn't "cool" to go liberal or socialist but with the party that actually works.
TheConnorian 3 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 (cont) Also Labour caused the economy to have minimal growth with their economic system, at least the Tories will get us back on track to being a top notch economy.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@TheConnorian "at least the Tories will get us back on track to being a top notch economy. " I invite you to hold your breath till this happens.
dANNNimal 3 months ago
@dANNNimal Don't worry, I learnt a few things in the past three weeks, I think that in truth if I had a penny for every lie they have made so far then I would be a billionaire.
TheConnorian 3 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Now about UKIP, they are an amazing viable alternative economically, better than both labour and the Tories with economic matters. And the armed forces, hello, we are British, not spanish, not french, not german. We are not yet integrated into the EuSSR which I'm sure you socialist types love to pieces. We should work for britain first! not any other nation or people.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 And large war? I forget that we live in an age where war is more common than a twenty pence piece. And how will they reform it? because I've heard no such thing, strange you knowing more about my own party than I, give me evidence and facts please not crap.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 And you do know more spending means more taxing don't you, it ends up being an endless cycle. Spend and tax, spend and tax and spend some more until you are in the ditch with nothing.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 And one last thing, during that time when the new deal was adopted, the USA only just managed to keep national product above Canada and only just squeezed in above France.
TheConnorian 4 months ago
LABOUR SOCIALIST PIGS
All the labour did for the last 13 years was to engage in two wars, surrender more of Britain's power to the EUSSR, to expand the government so much that we have to pay for all of them now.
Everytime the labour party loses an election, there is always a financial crisis happening. lol and yet the labour socialist sheeps still rally under their socialist banner. lol pathetic!
get these socialists back to their soviet rathole
Wisdomfanatic2011 4 months ago
@Wisdomfanatic2011 you're mental.
mutater0 4 months ago
@Wisdomfanatic2011 Clearly you're a Daily Express reader.
btw, Socialism gave us the NHS - never forget that. Thank God for Attlee and Bevan! Don't confuse socialism with communism; this isn't America.
Oh, and the Conservatives voted IN FAVOUR of invading Iraq. Infact, 139 Labour MPs rebelled against Blair, voting AGAINST military action in Iraq... only 15 Tory MPs voted against invading. So before you wipe off all the blame for Iraq on Labour, remember - the Tories are just as much to blame.
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 well the labour socialist government still caused the massive bloated government we have today... and their same comrades are now whining about the cuts to their socialist programs, which bloated the government. Even Gordon Brown's finance minister, Alistair Darling, said Brown's was a "brutal regime".
Wisdomfanatic2011 4 months ago
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
TalonMercenary 5 months ago
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Tokyorosebiz 5 months ago
Continue to rise to 0%.....fucking hell, sounds good!!
fatslurp 5 months ago 19
If you have any doubt how much of a "fucking disaster" the "One-eyed Scottish Idiot" was then google "Tullett Prebon Thinking the Unthinkable". It is 34 page report that describes a litany of failure and incompetence that characterized his time as Chancellor and PM. Brown just about fucked up everything he got his hands on .This shameless,reckless,mentally unstable, desperate moron has inflicted severe damage to this country that will not be undone for decades if ever.
Bellalodicci9 5 months ago
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Tokyorosebiz 5 months ago
@MissDumyat Well is David Cameron stopping married couples earning +£40k a year from receiving child benefits a sign that he hates them?
Of course a lot of people have been affected by the cuts but if the economy crashes and we end up like Ireland, Greece etc, then everybody will suffer and to a much greater extent. And I simply have to disagree that the Tory's see the public as a statistic any more than any other party.
LowleyUK 5 months ago
@LowleyUK Have you ever considered the possibility that it's a complete fraud?
The role of Labour is to secure the next victory for Conservative......and the role of Conservative is to secure the next election victory for Labour.
Cameron is such a cunt, only one man could get him into the job. Labour could NOT have done any more to earn that victory for Conservative.
eDemocracyUK 5 months ago
@eDemocracyUK An interesting yet ridiculous and implausible theory. And clearly motivated by a hatred of Cameron & co. However I must admit when Ed Miliband became leader of the Labour party I had similar thoughts of conspiracy. He was a gift to the Tories.
LowleyUK 5 months ago
@LowleyUK For example, the woman who was called a "bigot" by Gordon Brown when she gave him loads of hard questions....
It was Gordon Brown's own staff that put him in the situation, then "accidentally" recorded what he was saying about her privately, and it was broadcast to all of us, and we lapped it up
eDemocracyUK 5 months ago
@eDemocracyUK Well I thought she was an ignorant, bigoted plebeian but that's just my opinion. Who knows what really happened but I wouldn't jump to conclusions without some form of evidence.
LowleyUK 5 months ago
@LowleyUK How do you go about obtaining evidence to prove our elections are pre-determined?
It's blatantly obvious. The proof is Andy Coulson.
eDemocracyUK 5 months ago
@eDemocracyUK You suspend judgement until evidence comes to light otherwise you could believe a whole host of things. Are the Lib dems in on this? The chances of a party other than Lab/Con is no significant. What other reason do you have to believe this? I am curious but extremely sceptical.
Andy Coulson was a corrupt spin doctor, necessary due to Murdoch's tabloids but I don't see the how that proves your theory.
LowleyUK 5 months ago
@LowleyUK How would evidence come to light??
The Lib Dems must be in on it, because Clegg is just along for the ride.
Murdoch was in power with Tony Blair and the Labour party, through the times of massive lending and huge immigration, and now Murdoch is in power with Cameron and the coalition, as they try to repair the damage done by Labour.
Next election will be won by Labour, and Murdoch will still be there. Just like the Rockefeller family are involved with US politics.
eDemocracyUK 5 months ago
@eDemocracyUK I have no idea but everything you've said is just pure speculation, and I haven't even heard any mildly convincing reasons. Everybody knows Murdoch has too much influence but that says nothing about a government conspiracy, it would be foolish not to get him on side, though I disagree with it.
And I disagree, the next election will be won by a Tory majority. Labour have hardly any support thanks to Miliband and the Lib Dems lost a lot of their voters.
LowleyUK 5 months ago
@LowleyUK Check out bnp.org and type in on youtube, nick griffin addresses the nation. liblabcon are all traitors to the people. They will take us to ww3 and attack Iran soon as well, because that is one big conspiracy that i can see coming true as well, the corrupt west attacks Iran and then starts off ww3, after ww3 they offer the people of the world a one world government and then our leaders real bosses aka rothschilds will rule the entire world. wake up.
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@stokie1999999 rascist fucking scum. fuck off out of our country.
EvelcyclopS 5 months ago
@EvelcyclopS First of all, it is our country, and second when the nationalist revolution comes, and we have to take over to save our nation and our people from rape and terror and the fear of total white annihilation and persecution on our people, i hope you get it first. People like you and your left wing destructive nature have completely destroyed our nation to a ticking a bomb. And yet your so brainwashed by P.C propaganda you go around shouting abuse at the only people that will save
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@EvelcyclopS our heritage, our history and our way of life, many b.n.p activists and people at the top like nick griffin go through hell every single day and constantly get hurled abuse by scum bags like you. Yet other areas the bnp are highly respected, we are the 4th biggest party in the u.k and the fastest growing. The sheeple are finally waking up.
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@stokie1999999 you get abuse because you are a disgusting bunch of prejudiced retards. You aren't respected, you are loathed. I'm ashamed that people like you exist in our country.
Its a complete fucking disgrace how you can judge others for something they cant help, such as the colour of their skin or the country they were born in. Keep your mouth shut you intolerant cunt.
EvelcyclopS 5 months ago
@EvelcyclopS Hmm we aren't respected? yep that's right, we only get over a million votes because only 20 percent of the population actually vote. We don't attack any other colour of skin and especially don't attack people who have been born here and paid into the system. Go to the the bnp website and have a look for yourself, it might actually turn that button off in your head that says liblabcon multi cult robot on it, and wake you up. We only attack the current governments for replacing us.
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@stokie1999999 1m votes? Half that and you'd be close. But it means nothing anyway. Those 500k votes come from bnp supporting maggots, not from people who respect the BNP.
I respect people who vote for Labour, Lib Dems or Tories, i might happen to agree with everything they value, however i have respect for them. That is very fucking different to my opinion of you biggots, and while i cannot speak for the country as a whole, it would seem from various public campaigns, that i am not alone.
EvelcyclopS 5 months ago
@EvelcyclopS Yes, over 1m votes in the European elections, check it out for your self. You respect people who vote liblabcon? People who took great out of Britain you mean? people who have give 80 percent of jobs to the immigrant, people who wasted billions on the E.U, illegal wars and foreign aid, yet our own people who built and fort for this nation, end up dying of cold through the winter because they have no money to put the heat on. We are ruled by the enemy with in. That's a fact.
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@stokie1999999 if you think this countries problems are due to immigraton, i'm afraid you are deluded. claiming 80% of jobs go to immigrants is a sign of your hysteria. What is your plan for those of british origin who milk the benefits system? Eh? or is that their god given right as a 'god fearing proppah brittish person'.
and why use 2009 figures from an election the wider country couldnt give a fuck about? Why not use the 2010 general election figures? Cherry picking.
EvelcyclopS 5 months ago
@EvelcyclopS The nations problems are due to being ran by the enemy with in, the government does not work for us, they work for the Rothschilds,and they hate white Europeans and David Cameron is a distant relative to them himself. The statistics are there, liebour created 2.4 million jobs in there time in power, and 80 percent of them were given to the immigrant. In a nationalist Britain there will be no job centers, the only people who will get benefit are those who are disabled.
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@stokie1999999 oh go fuck off and put your tinfoil hat back on. nutter.
EvelcyclopS 5 months ago
@stokie1999999 go to bnp.org and actually look at there policy's your self. It is our duty to get the rest of the media brainwashed population and wake them out of there comber before our children and there children are persecuted in there own lands, and eventually come to the brink of annihilation.
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@stokie1999999 What more will it take for people like you to decide that nationalism is the only way forward for our people? What more do you want ? lib and con pledged to cut outside E.U immigration to the thousands, only to find that in there first year, already let in six hundred thousand in. Lib pledged to not raise student fees, so they could get the vote of the student, and yet hmm i wonder what happened. When will you learn? They are greedy filth that constantly lie.
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@LowleyUK Mildly convincing reasons? We were the most powerful country in the World. Now we're not even in the top 15 best places to live. We have some of the highest crime rates in Europe, we have the highest teen pregnacny rate in Europe, we have the highest heart attack rates in Europe, we have the highest STI rates in Europe, we have high unemployment, we have been fighting the War on Terror for over 10 years
I can go ON AND ON about how every Government is attacking this country
eDemocracyUK 5 months ago
@MissDumyat Yes and I sympathise with you on a personal level, but this is about the future of our country and the debt that our children will inherit. You have to realise Labour spent money we simply didn't have, all the conservatives are doing is restoring the budget to a more realistic figure and getting the blame for it. Labour would be making around 80% of the very same cuts. Hopefully our economy will be in better shape in the future and we will have avoided the fate of poor EU countries.
LowleyUK 5 months ago
@LowleyUK Dont vote liblabcon.. labour wasted billions, cons are doing the same but cutting our services at the same time to help give 6 billion in forein aid, 4.5 billion on afgan and 14 billion on the E.U. vote B.N.P to end this mess right now.
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@stokie1999999 To not vote Tory would mean a victory for Lib or Lab which would really spell the end for England. I agree that foreign aid is far to high for countries that are developing space programs and I agree the EU have too much control. Afghanistan is worth the money. And I couldn't vote for a party that is racist even though I agree immigration is far too high.
LowleyUK 5 months ago
@LowleyUK You are fooling your self, liblabcon are one big party, just a bunch of crooks who only care about one thing. I can tell that your a big victim of the propaganda war machine. You need to learn a few things about the liblabcon and how they all share the same guilt. You need to learn how that afghan is a waste of money and great life, i have worked out that we have spent over 100 billion in there since the start of the war and that's not counting Iraq.
stokie1999999 5 months ago
@MissDumyat Fiscal responsibility is vital during these financially uncertain times. Labour exacerbated the problem (and that's putting it mildly) and anyone naive enough to trust them again doesn't deserve have a clue about politics or the economic knife edge the capitalist world is on. Nobody wants to see people lose their jobs but this is the real world where people aren't kept employed as to avoid hurt feelings. Stop whining and propagating fear, David Cameron - Deserves Credit.
LowleyUK 5 months ago
Anyone notice Gordon surrounding himself with women in white coats to enhance his aura? I would have preferred men in white coats taking him back to the asylum
fuckyiuyiu 6 months ago
Spending is not growth.
Cameron pledged to match the labour party's spending.
boldertits 6 months ago
@boldertits depends how Keynesian you are...
mikhailit 6 months ago
One-eyed cunt that supported an "Open door" immigration policy.
Bellalodicci9 6 months ago
@Bellalodicci9 How disgusting that you hit on a person's disability. Says a lot about you!
welshpollypanad 6 months ago
@welshpollypanad Go tell it to families who have had members killed or raped by asylum seekers/immigrants with criminal records who should have been deported but were re-released into our society and this useless twat did nothing about it.
Bellalodicci9 6 months ago 14
@Bellalodicci9
Agree 100% my friend.
Immigration, Illegals, Wannabee suicide bombers, Labour are a fucking disgrace and should never be put back into power ever again.
not to mention the financial black hole they have left us to deal with.
ourobourous2000 6 months ago
@Bellalodicci9 Yeh, well said. it's staggering isn't it. All this nonsense about a right to a family or right to a home. Piss off, they shouldn't have murdered somebody then.
LowleyUK 5 months ago
@Bellalodicci9 their all useless twats what the fuck has cameron done about anything? other than take from the poor to support the rich? all in this together my arse. thats why london gets the biggest fucking budget to play with and all labour constituencies get fuck all and its in those constituencies that are having to make the cuts. Gordon brown was an idiot? PFFFF you aint seen fuck all yet from our chancellor osborne who isnt even qualified for the fucking job.
dANNNimal 3 months ago
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snaggypaggy 3 months ago
@Bellalodicci9 Another reader of the Sun right here...
In actual fact, if someone is shown to have a criminal record they are deported. That's the law that's what happens. This bullshit urban myth about immigrant rapists and murderers comes purely from the fabricated mindset of the right wing, sewn together with disperate facts.
LichQueenKathie 3 months ago
You know it has to be bad when even the socialist-in-disguise speaker laughs at Brown's expense
aliboioi 8 months ago
2 years later, we're still at 0% growth. What's changed?
mcm1345 8 months ago
Ah, the charms of the Commons. Good thing I receive them through Podcast...
darwincity 8 months ago
If Bin Laden had really wanted to destroy Britain he'd have joined Labour.
fodsaks 9 months ago 2
@fodsaks ... torries and fucking lib dems have turned out to be more lethal and devastating than labour... they are making mess while telling others they are clearing it.. we weren't that sick and tired of labour as much we are off these bastards
crackingguy123 8 months ago
@crackingguy123
Labour complaining about the Coalition austerity policies are like throwing a wild party and totally trashing your house, and then complaining next morning, because your flatmate's hoovering is too loud.
What's lethal and devastating is bringing a G8 country to the very brink of bankruptcy by spending like a drunk sailor!
fodsaks 8 months ago
0% charisma
ogfunk187 9 months ago
I profess some affection for Gordon Brown. The man was preternaturally pained. I prefer the commons to congress. I personally think you shouldn't trust politicians with teeth you can see from space
drifting789 9 months ago
0% growth is better than the negative growth we're currently acheiving under the Tories.
Seriously some people need to get over their Daily Mail & Torygraph manufactured hatred of Gordon Brown and accept that he managed to keep the country stable and unemployment minimal in what was the worst ever global recession since the great depression.
FannoFlow 9 months ago
@FannoFlow actually we're in positive growth, about 0.6% in the first quater of this year.
and unemployment is falling.
UNSCForwardontodawn 9 months ago
@UNSCForwardontodawn
We've flatlined. Over the past 6 or so months our total growth has been 0%, pretty pathetic considering our main European competitors (France, Germany etc) are acheving between 1.5 - 3 % growth. This is all directly because of the Tories reckless, idelogical driven cuts they've implemented. We're not going to reduce the defecit if we don't grow. It's basic stuff.
FannoFlow 8 months ago
@FannoFlow did you even lisen to the video? 0% from Labor. lets not forget, if Lavour hadent bankrup the contry there wouldent need to be cuts in the first place, infact their objective would to increse funding to the police, any meny more. i think Labours slogan should be "what mony?".
PlasmaticJj 8 months ago
@PlasmaticJj Fuck you Tory scum bag. Perhaps your motto should be Im a cunt who cant spell. I hope you fall into a puddle of aids you fucking zero.
whattyhoo 8 months ago
@whattyhoo im deslexic, altho you probably dont know what that is becuse of Labours poor education standerds. not to mention your not even educated in manners. also im not a tory, i vote for the independent. also you have no consideration for people who have aids so you can rot in hell. go nigal frage
PlasmaticJj 8 months ago
@PlasmaticJj I vote UKIP. Labour and Tories are both a disgrace to this country.
BassChanter 7 months ago
Your response to a reasonable argument is to resort to mindless insults? That shows the quality (lack of) of your intellect. You can't criticise the spelling of another when you cannot even respond to them in a respectful and considered way.
Hamilcar275 7 months ago
@Hamilcar275 Thats where you're wrong fuck wit!! I can and I did. who said criticism had to be nice and fluffy?
whattyhoo 7 months ago
There's such a thing called constructive criticism, but I know it's a pipe dream to expect manners from a leftist thug. I'll just carry along basking in my own superiority over you dear sir
Hamilcar275 7 months ago
@Hamilcar275 "basking in my own superiority over you"???? Perhaps you should become more assiduous in considering the coherence of your own sentences before you mount your high horse, you MASSIVE TWAT!!! The only dreams you have are wet ones, probably about other men’s "pipes" you tory faggot. Oh and before I forget, do not ever call me sir again, you pompous cunt!! I am a CHICK and I will KICK the ever living SHIT out of you.
whattyhoo 7 months ago
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Is that the best you can do?
Hamilcar275 7 months ago
You don't do much the uphold the dignity of your gender... you should calm down dear, it's bad for your blood pressure to be this angry.
I've heard better insults from 13 year olds, who would probably consider your joke to be highly amusing because of their undeveloped brains. Please message me back when you have something infinitely more witty and amusing, because that was just plain awful my lady.
Hamilcar275 7 months ago
@Hamilcar275 " You don't do muchTHE uphold the dignity of your gender" and "undeveloped brains" do I really have to point out the irony here?
whattyhoo 7 months ago
I type fast... what can I say.
You rather prove my point don't you? You criticise me for asking you why you are insufferably rude to those you disagree with, and you get hot and bothered when you disagree with me. You're just a jumped up little hypocrite aren't you madam
Hamilcar275 7 months ago
@Hamilcar275 is that the line you use when you pre maturely ejaculate into your boyfriends asshole. "I cum fast what can I say?" Nothing you useless cunt!!! People like you who are pretentious and moronic should say FUCK ALL, keep the curtains drawn and get back to watching the Star Trek commentary on their dvd player. Oh I know what you’re thinking “how insufferably rude” where the fuck are you from a Jeeves and Wooster novel?
whattyhoo 7 months ago
Aww you're getting angry now dear lady... I would pity you if you wouldn't be offended by it. You've lost the argument so you call me gay... doesn't that go against leftist toleration of 'alternative' lifestyles? Jeeves and Wooster is fiction dear, this is real life, no matter how much it challenges you. But again you prove my point, you don't mind being beastly to someone, but when someone does it back, you get all emotional and menstrual.
Hamilcar275 7 months ago
@Hamilcar275
hahahaha she can not think of a reply for that last comment
scottstacey1501 6 months ago
I just assumed she was ignoring me...
Hamilcar275 6 months ago
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@PlasmaticJj Is it hard going through life unable to spell?
spackhollogay 6 months ago
@FannoFlow Gordon Browns answer was to spend money we didn't have to promote growth. That's a false economy and totally ridiculous economics. How is running up a deficit of nearly £2 billion per year keeping the country stable?
MRSPADDY 9 months ago
@MRSPADDY
Incorrect. I get tired of repeating this but the defecit only ballooned around 2007/2008 when Northeren Rock hit the fan and the early signs of the global recession hit. In Labour's early years they were very frugal with money and were able to generate healthy growth whilst improving public services and removing the inequalities and unfairness in society that the Tories had promoted.
FannoFlow 8 months ago
@FannoFlow We went from being in surplus to a deficit in 2002. We reduced our deficit slightly only for it to go crazy around 07/08 as you mention. This global recession was caused by governments spending beyond their means and banks encouraging people to take out loans and spend money they didn't have, and had no chance of repaying.
MRSPADDY 8 months ago
@MRSPADDY
Yes we were in a defecit from 2002 - 2007 but it was relatively small and controlled. No worse then any of the defecit's run up under Thatcher or the Tories. In fact most economists agree that you have to go into a controlled defecit in order to continue growing.
It was the Americans who were mainly responsible for forcing people morgagtes and loans to unsuitable people, our banks just greedily took it of their hands in the repackaged form of "securities" ....
FannoFlow 8 months ago
@MRSPADDY
.......and ended up with it when the shit hit the fan.
At the time our banks were making a killing and were helping our ecomony boom - any chancellor would have been mad to interfere in that growth. Obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing but at that time Labour were rightly concerned with growth. Nothing would have been different under the Tories - in fact they were arguing for less regulation so we would be in an even worse predicament.
FannoFlow 8 months ago
@FannoFlow But wasn't it Labour that deregulated the B.O.E? If our economy is booming on borrowed money it will eventually crash. Gordon Brown arrogantly announced he had ended the Boom and Bust natural economic cycle. He allowed banks to lend irresponsibly, spent more money than his Government were making, and made no sensible investments. We were in a structural deficit BEFORE the recession. Why did Labour spend so much and create a huge deficit throughout a boom it makes no sense?
MRSPADDY 8 months ago
@MRSPADDY
The major problem was that banks were selling and buying AAA rated bonds that were in fact junk. The banks insured against them failing, so could see no risk to themselves. Once people started defaulting on their mortgages, the market collapsed. The slow recovery in the UK is partly due to the high level of personal debt and that the banks are reluctant to lend. 20% VAT and high fuel prices are not helping.
Greed and regulatory failings in the USA derivatives markets caused this.
irresistablejewel 8 months ago
Cameron's reply was more embarrassing!
perkin158 9 months ago
i love the way the women on his left looks like shes trying to figure it our haha
dannyparki93 10 months ago
Look at the subtle attempt to make Brown look messianic by having two women surround him in bright white coats.
fuckyiuyiu 10 months ago
HAhahahahah! It will contiue to rise at 0%
MatthewDavidParr 10 months ago
good old goormless.....no wonder we are bankrupt.
BREDATOR1 10 months ago