A discussion about the Climate Change scam - The Daily Politics

[Richard482]

Fred Singer, the man who told the world that CFCs do not cause ozone depletion and second hand smoke does not cause cancer is at it again. He's in it for the money.

[bvssvni]

Global warming was a hoax started 120 years ago by brainwashing 100 000 scientists in 200 countries. A secret mission of the Apollo space trips was to pull the earth several hundreds of thousands km closer to the sun to match the fake simulation model started in 1965. You can read the proof in my new book "Weathermen Are Scientists".

[TrueInnovator159]

Alright! Alright! I'll say it for everyone here! *EHMM*.......

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Bob. Watson.

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SUCK MY DICK YOU LYING SCUMBAG. This includes to all scientists supporting climate change. It is ALL A HOAX and a lie. Do some real research dipshits. Scientists my ass. Only real scientist is the old guy in this interview.

[ZeusZol0]

Climate change is a hoax, a way to scare the population into taxing them to death

[judomagyar]

Dr. Zagoni explains: Earth type planetary atmospheres, having partial cloud cover and sufficient reservoir of water; maintain an energetically uniquely determined, constant, maximized greenhouse effect that cannot be increased further by emissions. The greenhouse temperature must fluctuate around this theoretical equilibrium constant; [change] is possible only if the incoming

available energy changes.

[FlutedTubePan]

Global Climate change is not proven the same way evolution is not proven. There is no way we can't ever PROVE that coyotes evoloved from wolves because don't actually have a time machine. We can't actually visibly see in real time how we have affected the atmosphere, but you would be crazy to think that that is enough of a reason to discredit climate change. The evidence it there, and a whole lot of experts who are a whole lot smarter than you or me are telling us that.

[weallknowitstrue]

Good WORK Lord Monckton.

I hope that you will noted and honoured as you should be.

Please continue until this matter of Global Warming is sealed to never return again.

So that we can all get back to focusing on local pollution - were we actually can effect change to our local environment, without needing a global carbon tax to do it.

Cheers to you Monckton

[maximumcorruption]

They can't explain why the temperatures have been falling the last 10 years, because they forgot to tell us that they've been using HAARP since 1998 to do this. Dimming the sun everyday with chemtrails then activating them. What affect to you think dimming the sun daily, has on the temperature of the earth? I rest my case.

[scree123]

Godzilla will destroy the earth long before global warming.

Pope Al Gore is a fraud.

[wdgeo]

Are you a skeptic?

Look-up:

"Empirical evidence that humans are causing global warming." at: skepticalscience. com (no spaces)

[Ianpbx]

So what? That's just another website set up by propagandists for the man-mad climate change scam. I suggest you view a videos on Youtube by another 'sceptic'. Prof. Bob Carter:

"Climate Change - Is CO2 the cause? - Pt 1 of 4"

whereby he exposes the scam science that the political elite (and the Left for a completely different reason) are conveniently exploiting.

[wdgeo]

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting: AGW is a world-wide conspiracy involving ALL scientists, scientific journals and deliberative bodies on the planet who have all managed to keep quiet about it for the past fifty-something years.

That's the most ridiculously unbelievable claim since Christianity.

[Ianpbx]

AGW is not supported by all scientists. It's supported by scientists who rely on government funding. IPCC: scientists funded by governments; NIPCC: scientists not dependent on government funding. Many scientists have been complaining that their funds have been withdrawn when they spoke out against it AGW. AGW is promoted by the Bilderberg Group - the ruling elite. If you wish to trust such bastards, then that's your problem.

[wdgeo]

Not true. Most legitimate scientific journals such as "Science", "Nature", PNAS. org and others, are NOT government funded.

Once again, I urge you to check out skepticalscience. com for many great articles relating to AGW such as "What happened to the evidence for man-made global warming?" and many others.

[Ianpbx]

Good grief! The journals may not be government funded but the scientists are! Governments pay their regular wages and fund their projects. I've checked that website and it's clearly propaganda.

[wdgeo]

@Ianpbx Okay, so you're inexorably deluded by this conspiracy theory schizophrenia of yours and no amount of PROOF will convince you otherwise. Too bad.

[Ianpbx]

There is no 'proof' of man-made global warming. It's just a hypothesis with poor foundation and distorted science.

[NAUresistance]

I'm going with the old guy.

[wdgeo]

The "old guy" is Fred Singer. He used to take loads of money from the tobacco industry for providing "evidence" that cigarette smoking was okie-dokie for your health. Look him up, he's an unprincipled denier-for-hire.

[Ianpbx]

wdgeo - Why do you choose to distort the truth? I imagine that's what you also do to justify your climate change religion. In actual fact, Singer did NOT say that smoking was good for the health, he merely questioned the claims as to the extent that passive smoking has to the health.

You really need to find more suitable witches to burn at the stake.

[wdgeo]

Real clever the way you guys project your own faults onto others.

Denialistas:

1. Distort the truth

2. Have made a religion out of their crazy right-wing ideology.

3. And continue with your claims despite OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE to the contrary.

Fred Singer is a paid liar. Look up his stance on CFCs and the ozone layer, sulfur factory smoke and acid rain and on and on. He is paid by big corporations to OBFUSCATE THE FACTS so these criminals can prolong their profiteering and destructive behavior

[Ianpbx]

wdgeo - more nonsense from you. You are just like a religious zealot from the Middle Ages. It's Gore and co who distorted the truth with his 'Inconvenient Truth', and that was decided by the British High Court on 9 points.

Anti-AGW=Right wing ideology? Even right-wing governments support AGW, as a means of more control. The Left is merely exploiting AGW because they see it as a means of attacking capitalism.

There is no overwhelming evidence in favour of AGW, it's mainly irrational.

[wdgeo]

If by irrational you mean factually certain, then I agree.

PNAS. org published a paper in 2004 by Naomi Oreskes establishing that there is in fact consensus. More on that can be found here:

en. wikipedia. org/ wiki/ Climate_change_consensus (- spaces)

Dr. Oreskes also presented a lecture for UCalTV called "The American Denial of Global Warming" which is excellent and should be watched in its entirety by anyone purporting to understand the arguments. (1 hr long)

watch?v=2T4UF_Rmlio

Enjoy!

[Ianpbx]

Wikipedia? You must be joking. That entry is full of bias. I spent half a night arguing with editors about the imbalance. They made the ludicrous assertion that the science is conclusive and final. That's Wikipedia for you - biased due to idiot editors.

So we can refer each other to videos...so what? AGW is still not conclusively proven. You wish to see extra taxes imposed on people because of an unproven theory, while the elite use it as an excuse to increase their power.

[wdgeo]

@Ianpbx watch the U Cal video... unless you are afraid of it!

watch?v=2T4UF_Rmlio

[Ianmcgregorable]

Ground temp data are wrong. Many stations are spotty or have moved around, cities grown up around others, and some don't even exist.

Also, satellite sensed temps disagree with the ground temps.

Response?

1) Ignore problem with ground temps.

2) Feed bad ground temps into crap models, then tweak until you get results that fit your theory.

3) When model predictions turn out to be wrong, rename "Global Warming" to "Climate Change".

4) Announce that you must seize power earlier than expected.

[Urantianow]

Man's activity is not sufficient to impact global warming, and warming PRECEDES a rise in CO2, which is NOT a pollutant. Vegetation and oceans exchange CO2 and O2, serving to maintain an overall equilibrium. That a 'Climate Change Summit' proceeds, and that "Queen" Elizabeth clamors for an Int'l Treaty, shows that this fraud was to have been, and may still willfully be used as the premise to create the structural scaffolding for the development of an oligarchical, tyrannical WORLD GOVERNMENT.

[wdgeo]

Think there is no devil? Behold: 0:24

[JustProud1]

Bob Watson is a liar and puppet.