definitely looks about as difficult as most v14's, but really the entire rating system is ridiculous, certain climbing styles suit certain people better, for all we know it is a sandbagged v16 for him even, but many other people may feel more natural on the climb, could feel like a v12 if you send it right... there's no rock solid and simple way to asses difficulty, which is why so many professional and talented climbers find ratings to be absolutely pointless, aesthetics > rating always
First of all, unless you can do this climb, you cannot rate it. Second, why are people so worried about ratings.. just enjoy the climbing. who fucking cares if its V2 or V16? as long as a person is pushing their personal limit then thats all that matters.
Zangrel is amazing and as mentioned before I would trust his judgment on the grade as he's been around the block a few times...it isn't fair how easy he makes that look.
idk. the facts are out there that its not quite v16, but zangerl is an amazing boulderer and one that deserves my utmost respect. if he says it's 16, i'm gonna go with him.
And why not? Been on it have you? Zangerl did the second ascent of dreamtime, 8C, before it was chipped to death. I cant see how on earth this boulder should be easier.
That is some extremely precise and smooth movement.
marcopervo 4 months ago
D-Woods says 8B
larsonquick 4 months ago
definitely looks about as difficult as most v14's, but really the entire rating system is ridiculous, certain climbing styles suit certain people better, for all we know it is a sandbagged v16 for him even, but many other people may feel more natural on the climb, could feel like a v12 if you send it right... there's no rock solid and simple way to asses difficulty, which is why so many professional and talented climbers find ratings to be absolutely pointless, aesthetics > rating always
goose3249 6 months ago
First of all, unless you can do this climb, you cannot rate it. Second, why are people so worried about ratings.. just enjoy the climbing. who fucking cares if its V2 or V16? as long as a person is pushing their personal limit then thats all that matters.
shofanda 10 months ago
it's been downgraded to v14.
flakened 1 year ago
no matter where you go on youtube, theres always wanna bes actin like hot shit. fuck them
BBKWrithe 1 year ago
why is he wearing 2 different shoes
P3313 1 year ago
@P3313
Those V10's (yellow shoe) aren't very good for heel hooking. Maybe that's why?
Patwc 1 year ago
the hold in 2:00 is too sick to be true
even the topout sloper must be hard es hell
leozilla 2 years ago
he's a good boulderer but people have found a sequence that's about v14, the way he does it might be v16 but its not the way
rookesy1 2 years ago
Zangrel is amazing and as mentioned before I would trust his judgment on the grade as he's been around the block a few times...it isn't fair how easy he makes that look.
bryantuten 2 years ago 4
If it´s 6cC why don´t you go there and try to hold anyone of those crimpers? Tell me if you could do that...
schroppSon 2 years ago
idk. the facts are out there that its not quite v16, but zangerl is an amazing boulderer and one that deserves my utmost respect. if he says it's 16, i'm gonna go with him.
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from the video it only looks about 7a!
craggon13 2 years ago
This was repeated 4 times in a year, and once by an 8a+ climber. It's certainly hard but it's not V16.
LastChanceRide 3 years ago 4
I agree. then again as a v6 climber who am I to argue?
boxsterwelby 2 years ago
nothing more ridiculous than a bunch of mediocre downgrading a boulder problem they've never seen and could never climb
catsgame 3 years ago 28
Look like Gaskins jugs to me.
harveyoswald 3 years ago
John Gaskins would get up that
bedevilledwitheggs 3 years ago 2
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and grade it 6c probably.and from the looks of the video,wouldent be far wrong
craggon13 2 years ago
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no way v16
tdock14 3 years ago
well... it doesn't look like. but we have to wait till other ppl send it and grade it... lets see
BudaFZ 3 years ago 2
And why not? Been on it have you? Zangerl did the second ascent of dreamtime, 8C, before it was chipped to death. I cant see how on earth this boulder should be easier.
hansmaro 3 years ago 16
i would like dave graham, fred nicole ,and chris sharma to get on this and see what they think about it
Rock0nsight 3 years ago
@Rock0nsight - Daniel Woods just repeated it.
sstrong42 4 months ago
incredible send, video was kinda silly though.
ElTheJono 4 years ago