Tool - Lateralus - Fibonacci explanation

[chefboise]

Tool is definately one of the most intelligent bands off all time.

[freix138]

Hey, I don't really get the meaning of the 9 minutes and 24 seconds, can somebody explain?

thanks a lot

[ElSexy27]

@RNB102 don't be such a Scrooge. It's a cool song. Just let it be

[RNB102]

oh how deep without a meaning you tools.Ancient cultures have been playing in odd time sequences since the beginning of existance ,especially the Africans.I think I learnt about the fibonacci sequence at school when I was 10 yrs old. Big deal!!! They are using some one elses Math. WOW...thats really profound and smart!!

[SomaliaGaming]

@RNB102 Its not that they learned some one elses math, its that they applied it to a song and compared it to living your life like the math thats amazing. You hate on a youtube video. WOW...thats really profound and smart!!

[RNB102]

oh how deep without a meaning you tools

[TheOriginalEntz]

@RNB102 You can only see in others what is already in you. You must be pretty fucking shallow. Good day ;)

[TheOnward1k]

american poet James Wright suggested what is is suggested in this song like this, " ... suddenly I realized, that, if I stepped outside my body I would break into blossom" There are many examples of this awareness, I prefer TOOL ...

[HarmonicSquire]

"Whatever will bewilder me. Whatever will, bewilder me." Or is it the other way around?

[ThePath2one]

Maynard and Alex have Vision ... Putanjali's Yoga Sutras... We will go where noones been...YES

[ThePath2one]

Einstein's foam

[elwood180]

Saying you like tool is the equivalent of calling yourself a homo.

[HENDRIX19941]

@elwood180 then why are you watching this video, stupid fag.

[SonicTitan23]

Wanna hear a song that really makes you wonder if it will ever end? Try Sleep-Dopesmoker

[iamthescott1]

wtf is VC and what are they teaching us?

[IpwnUa11]

TOOL is without a doubt one of the most intelligent bands out there!

[WingedGothLion]

IM IN LOVE .... LOL

[oinconformado]

Evry1 talks about starting the sequence in the 6, 7, 5, format, but then the spiral odds out. What if the listening sequence isn't a Fibonacci one? :)

Has any1 tried to listen in the following order?

7,6,8,5,9,4,10,3,11,2,12,1,13

It's a simple spiral but it goes through all the numbers evenly until 13. And the beauty is that evry 2 numbers added = 13 (6+7= 8+5 = 9+4...).

Just a thought...

[wdriver101]

@oinconformado just thought id let you know your suppost to "swing on the spiral" when you get to lateralus! swing it to track 13 then back to one and "keep going!" haha the order is 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10 the beauty of doing it this way is that the two adjacent numbers subtract 7 – 6 = 1 7 – 5 = 2 8 – 5 = 3 8 – 4 = 4 9 – 4 = 5 13 – 9 =4 you should get 6 here but theres a reason why. 10 – 3 = 7 11 – 3 = 8 11 - 2 = 9 12 – 2 = 10

[wdriver101]

@oinconformado cont... the reason why six is not there and theres a four in its place is because on the original track listing track four is mantra, you can actually play mantra over the introduction to lateralus and it will fit perfectly! 6 is the number of lateralus in the new track listing as well. not only that is that the number 6 refers to the six means of perfection in the buddhist faith, which is talked about in this song, yano astral projection an shit! haha

[Outboundz]

to spiral out is to move away, i rather spiral in

[xcorecoco]

@Outboundz out=in, these patterns repeat themselves on a grand scale as well as the smallest ones.. there is no escaping it.

[certainstrength]

six years ago i was a Comp Sci/Math freshman, and the Fibonacci sequence was what we were asked to spit out using recursion, this song takes me back.

[2VandaLEyes]

Humans are pattern seeking creatures, and that attribute has served as a very useful evolutionary survival mechanism. I don't really think this video is as much an explanation of some profound hidden structure inside Tool's music (although it is an amazing connection to make), but more so a demonstration of humans' incredible ability to find structure, patterns, and meaning inside seemingly unrelated things.

[flesjemelk]

it feels like I'm watching an instructional video on how to think for myself...

[Petruccinho]

This video completely changed my whole damn life.

[JacobsBassWorld]

Just wondering this...

But why repost someone else's video?

I mean it's obvious you aren't trying to steal credit, you posted the link to his...

I'm just curious why,

Maybe someone else reading comments could answer it for me?

Thanks, I'm really not being negative or trolling, just genuinely curious.

[XiyadGenie]

Who is VC 7:11

[LouieOpel]

What an incredible song, with so much more than what it appears to be beneath the surface.

I laughed at '...if you want to overthink it.' when it started singing "OVERTHINKING, OVERANALYZING..."

[Ahhhlanna]

well done, good fucking shit. LOVE THIS FUCKING SHIT.

[05hondaciv27]

Very intriguing.............. Leave it to MJK, to create a masterpiece such as this. Thank you for the video.

[soad14057]

fucked up shit

[chyah3]

the guitars suck

[Wowgamerchick]

@chyah3 lets see you play a guitar like that, then, Mr. asshat.

[sollusgreatsword]

how'd you find this

[jazznjava]

rip hubble telescope. You changed our view of life.

[qbd3v14nt]

Excellent video and commentary. This is my favorite Tool song. :)

[cubq666]

Spiral Out , keep going ...solooo i just fucking love It !!!!!

[darkeststar]

Completely awsome!!!

[Ace4D]

marilyn manson did something similar in the album holy wood

[muderthecrows]

Tool does nothing accidentally. All four members are profoundly smart, both in a musical sense and in real life matters. Everyone of their albums have significant meanings that the listeners are to take as their own. That is why they never explain the meanings of songs. Look into the significance of 10,000 Days, if you can find it. It is so much more than you think it is. Think for yourself. Question authority.

[LmcnNZL]

@muderthecrows Likes this :)

[ShotByHisOwnSon]

couldnt have said it better, spot on good sir!

[TheArarr]

set up 10,000 days in one music player

then set up Viginti Tres and Wings for Marie in a playlist on another music player.

now start the two players at the exact same time

the two songs will line up and it will sound like an orchestra, with lyrics and instrumentals from each song timed perfectly to never overlap

[jeanniegirl82]

@muderthecrows tool has been a big part of my life for years, it seems like the coincidences never end between my life and the happenings of the band. i first heard aneima when i was 14 back in 97, lol. ever since then its been so weird. my husband was diagnosed with cancer when we were deciphering the song 'the patient', and it totally applied to him. this song has blown my mind since i first heard it.

[jeanniegirl82]

@muderthecrows 10,000 days came out 9 days after my husband died, and 3 days before his birthday. wings for marie, wow, just wow. it coincided so well. another funny thing is maynards birthday is the same day as out sons, and the same year as my moms. just thought that was cool info there, lol

[Bleeding1408]

@muderthecrows see I am scared that soon these guys will be destroye just like system of a down and rage against the machine and bob marley and many more...how long till they are gone?...

[tpimpin17]

@Bleeding1408 in my opinion, tool will never be gone. They will live on in there fans and there music will be forever played. Me being a huge tool fan im prepared for when tool ever breaks up because i tell you what, i will never stop listening to them, i would have them played during my funeral

[wingsforangelamarie]

@muderthecrows exactly, Tool makes you think, they don't just explain the purpose of everything, you have to find purpose. :)

[MACHINEHEAD555666]

Did TOOL even entend on doing this with the song?

[finefinefine]

6:50 @whoever made the video, heck no im not wondering when it's going to end at 6:50 i'm playing air guitar and banging my head to each crash of the cymbol hoping that it will never end. What a lack of appreciation to have synced that comment to one of the best parts of the whole song.

[q14151415]

wow there fucken smart lol

[cubq666]

dont say :D:)

[kylek1151]

Also, at 4:55, how do the track numbers ordered like that represent the Fibonacci sequence?

6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10 does not look anything like the Fibonacci sequence. Some of those songs beginnings and endings do not fit together so well either.

[deathfromanal]

Because, if you take their album, the song numbers, 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10, line up vertically in the fibonacci spiral.

[kylek1151]

They don't though. If you start the sequence from 1, the numbers 6, 7, 4, 9, 12, 11, and 10 aren't even in the sequence.

[bobbygnosis]

There's a section where the video says that there's an implicit missing section when a verse starts with thirteen and then goes to eight. There doesn't seem to be a missing section where stated.

Not like that matters. It's still a cool song and I'm glad that someone noticed the sequence.

Peace.

[kylek1151]

At about 3:10 it shows the "missing section" that was implied a few minutes earlier. It goes down from 8 and then back up to 13 and back down where as before it started at 13 and went down. It does seem to me though that there should be one more 1, or myabe two more 1s, whenever it counts up and down. In the song it goes 1,1,2,3,5,8,5,3,2,1,1,3,5,8,13­,8,5,3,1,1. Seems like there should be more 1s in the middle. =p

[bobbygnosis]

I realized, a few minutes after I posted my comment, that I had misunderstood; at 1:50 - ish, there are three syllables. The following verse has thirteen. Five and eight are both missing. It was an oversight on my part and then I posted about my oversight. Kind of silly if you think about it.

Still, I like TOOL. I like what I think they stand for. I like what they talk about. It'd be nice to hear more music like this rather than what they play in elevators or at my work (Guns 'n Roses).

[Davo686]

yeah i have re-ordered this album and i disagree that they flow better,they flow better the way they are.breaking up"parabol"and"parabola"is sacrilege. plus"Disposition"Reflection"an­d"Triad"were going to be one song,how would reordering them make it flow better.though i do agree with you about the general meaning of the song.interesting watching Alex Grey art work and listening to Tool,if you ask me it points to meditation and looking within(or reaching out)to the otherside...wat ever that maybe

[kirafish7]

The math behind this is really amazing, but switching from odd to even syllables like that sounds really awkward. Good song, nevertheless. :)

[bigfatace777]

this is like a fucking mind-grenade!

[sutho73]

i wanted to get right into this but for some reason i cant be bothered

[motorb1tch]

dont the lyrics tell us NOT to analyse it? and than we can only get it WHEN we analyse it!

OMG ITS A FUCKIN MINDTANK!!eleven

[finishingchief1]

hey people, knowing the meaning of this song is cool and all, but maynard carried a message along with it,"overthinking, overanalyzing, seperates the body from the mind." in other words, don't worry bout the meaning

[sofoclebeat]

Nope ... that's your understanding of that quote. I think that quote to be a metaphor of a feeling... of focused attention beyond assumptions. And don't worry bout the meaning means you should continue to be stupid(ignorance)

[MMDCCXLIII]

Furthermore, TOOL builds their songs around the music, the lyrics always come second to the music itself. It's the music that has the main message that is intended, the lyrics are only a guide, they're only Maynard's interpretation.

[0hmprakash]

To understand the full context of this song it's necessary to understand the metaphysical elements underlying the lyrics. The spiral being alluded to in this song is the non-physical plane(i.e. astral planes). It urges us to spiral onward and upward into the realm of infinite possibility on the wings of our will and the winds of chance. The song is meaningful as a metaphor to urge us to go beyond the known into uncharted territory but is also a direct allusion to a metaphysical principle.

[sk8ercky14]

i dont understand the reordering of the tracks, how are those numbers related to the fibonacci sequence

6, 7, 5, 8???

i could see add one, subtract two, add three, subtract four, but that stops at 13, haha.

maybe im just retarded.

[bluerat77]

To know more about the links between maths-art-music-biology etc... read the book "Goedel, Escher, Bach: an eternal golden bride" by Douglas Hofstadter. Great song!

[De4sher]

Many people find a song more interesting if there's a theme, like that fibbonnaci thing to it.

I find it somehow stupid. i wouldn't listen to a song just because there's some connection to fibbonaci. I don't care! wtf was fibbonaci anyway? he came up with that string of numbers... so what?

I don't give a cold f*** about fibbonaci and this song. I'm saying: smoke weed and you'll become enlightened :)

If you like the song, good! but please don't like it cuz of fibbonaci, that's just lame.

[Polytophic]

Listen; if you like Tool, good. This video is not about that, however. It's about how the song mirrors the Fibbonaci sequence. By the way: music has A LOT to do with math and patterns.

[DarwellJ]

Well if you haven't noticed, that fibonacci thing is related to lyrics of this song but the song isn't just about that progression of numbers. I liked that song way before knowing about this, but I think this makes it even better. It's not just lyrics about the theme, but music too.

Sorry for my bad english, I hope my comment is clear.

And sorry, but smoking weed and not giving a fuck about anything is lame.

[De4sher]

Thx for the feedback.

Smoking weed is cool, on rare occasions. It It also gives the perception of music a totally new dimension.

Not caring about something is the first step towards understanding it.

Also, To those that rate me down, I understand that you're Tool fans, and won't take criticism, but rating me down, but the anger I summon inside you is only you mind's way of telling you that I could be right. That's why the passive aggressive reactions appear.

best regards ;)

[ollieolive1]

if you dont give a fuck about this song why are u even posting here. do you others care about what you wrote lol. ppl dont listen to this song cuz theres a connection to fibonacci, where the hell did you come up with that? i think you smoked too much weed buddy. the video explains the theory, ppl probably listen to the song cuz its a great song but not only cuz of the theory but everything in it.

[De4sher]

I post here because I enjoy being rated down :)

I feel like a misunderstood rebel, a genius that came on earth before his time. So keep rating me down people, it's good for my health :)

Besides, i like speaking my mind about all kinds of stuff, so this is just some random stuff i commented upon, for no other reason than commenting.

But whatever, I am sacred to the Flying Spageti Monster, and he will destroy all those that don't agree with me :)

[penguinhumper]

people listen to the song because it has good lyrics and a good sound. what people don't understand is the thought and amount of time Tool puts into each song. like this one for instance. they've admitted that every song has some kind of mathematical sequence, but they won't tell you how it works. maynard has performed numerous times with dimensions of King Solomon's tomb on him because it follows the golden ratio.

[LyadinDima]

Where he talks about over analizing seperates his body from mind, I feel that way all the time. Smokin pot and thinking makes it seem like my physical body is a different person than my mind.

Feels like you aren't really there :l

[loveyoutodeathbut]

Is this the same reasoning that was used to synch Dark Side of the Moon and The Wizard of Oz?

[chessarn]

word

[P8121]

I love this whole album, I've listened to it 100's of times. I'm going to try the new order... cool video

[tyler55987]

If you listen to the album in 6-7-5-8-4-9-13-1-12-2-11-3-10 it does not flow together better at all. The album flows perfectly the way it is set up on the disk, the way Tool wanted it to be listened to.

[maikeru01]

lol im glad somebody else checked that out, i really didnt feel like it. but that figures. but that order there isnt a fibonacci sequence at all anyway.

[Polytophic]

erm.. what does the telescope have to do with the mathematics?

[Guitarro13]

all the images have fibonacci in it. . . mostly fibonacci spirals

[De4sher]

and what does music have to do with math?

and if it has to "do" something with math, why doesn't it "do" it right?

i think i'm beginning to love this logic, just because it's so ingeniously stupid and pointless :)

[lenthemofo]

well actually music has a lot to do with math, the reason why we like music so mutch is becouse of the paterns we recognise in it whitch are often math paterns/rithms. If you want to hear more math based music youtube (dot) com/user/texturestv

[De4sher]

one of the genders i like is technical/progressive metal. I also like math metal. i know a few things about the theory of music (i studied violin), i'm also studying physics and i know some stuff about sound.

I don't actually know why we like music and why the patterns give us pleasure, but it sure seems they do.

I don't actually care to know why I like music. Also if i try to associate intellectually music and math, the pleasure goes down. Same as with sex or other pleasurable activities.

[Davo686]

its spelt genre

[criminalzerg]

Music has everything to do with math. When broken down a peice of music is mearly time signitures :P

[De4sher]

if you take it that way, we are nothing than a bunch of electrons spinning somehow. Everything could be interpreted in a mathematical way, but the actual experience of music, the pleasure i get from music, has nothing to do with the "pleasure" i get from math. Even if it's all a bunch of carefully calculated frequencies and periods, the math behind the music is for me something completely different from the pleasure it gives me.... dunno if i was coherent enough.

[ollieolive1]

music has a lot to do with math. if you think its stupid that he made this song with the fibonacci sequence, maybe its cuz you dont know i true meaning. this video only explains the theory not the songs meaning.

[De4sher]

Doeas grindcore have anything to do with math?

[ollieolive1]

the way a song is written, everything on the music sheet has to do with math. u dont just come up with sum random thing u heard on the radio to write music

[De4sher]

I think the art of creating music is a little different than math. Have you ever composed a song? I have. I am also fairly good at math, and don't see the direct link.

However, if you want, I will agree that math is as connected to music, as it is to cheese, because the fractal patterns in the cheese can be described by math, the mass, and innertia momentum can be described by math, it's color has a dispersion spectrum of some sort.

However, i'm starting to like this song :) nice thing, huh?

[De4sher]

oh yeah, and the author removed your comment on the "grindcore" issue.

I was curious what you think about that. Is it connected to math?

[kristofferjay]

Captivating. Music is mathematical and such. Always has been.

[kristofferjay]

captivating. well done. music is mathical and such. always has been.

[NoLoveInThat]

I usually find myself singing this song and figuring out the fibonacci series while I am at work. Keeps me from being hypnotized by the slicers. I work in a deli.

[10rebel01]

the beat is also fibonacci

[perromanchado]

Brilliant. They know God, the mathematition.

[ReganDaly]

let me guess hes gna say sumfn bout sheep

[iggy4323]

guilty conscience?

[ReganDaly]

na i kinda agree i shdnt b spellng in txt.

i thnk only kiwis wil kno wat im sayng... mayb ozzies

[fnsmyd]

I thought, and still think, this song is a description of a DMT trip. I'm surprised whoever put all this together didn't touch on that... at all...

[ivanooze13]

could very well be

but the song has been talked about in interviews by the band about this song and about fibonacci

danny carey is very influenced by sacred geometry

now a tool song about a DMT trip would be "rosseta stoned"

[ReganDaly]

i kant decide if spiraling out is the milky way (or just space) or our brains, thinking mor and mor deeper, thinking wat no one else has thort b4, goin wher no ones been in our brain

[iggy4323]

why don't you focus on good spelling and grammar before you tackle the big issues, eh?

[ReganDaly]

becoz it takes longer if i spell it right fuk knuckle

ur obviously not much of a txter

[iggy4323]

I text my words in full - so you're wrong on that front.

You should read Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Seuss... that would probably take you to a place in your brain that you've never visited before.

[drmofcali4niktun]

hahaha i do too :p go us... i hate text speak.

[iggy4323]

woo! breed fast or our kind will be lost forever!

[drmofcali4niktun]

:p yeah... sadly. :( i hate T9 too... i have no clue how to use it.

[iggy4323]

T9 makes me sad :(

[ReganDaly]

ozzies r prety boys

[ReganDaly]

lyk i sed it takes less tym to spel wrong

go eat a dik

[NoLoveInThat]

texting is for losers.

or excuse me, txtng is 4 lsrs.

no really even if i text i still spell out the words. i am not lazy. i just do not capitalize. c'est la vie

[cannabishead4420]

lol

[cannabishead4420]

I used to text like that until it became more and more difficult to spell words correctly in school lol so I started spelling it right.

[ReganDaly]

i love this song

the whole mathmatical thing

maynard is a good influence to us bogans hu cud aktly b scientists

[cannabishead4420]

What is a bogan hu cud aktly b scientist?

[jailarson]

My brain just exploded.

[Silencestolen]

FireyDime :

"4:30 is a Metroid; I knew they were real"

weaver2109:

"Nah, metroids have legs " ....lmfao

Great vid. thX for the great info.

[PhantomKing5]

Thanks for uploading this.

[ru486atman]

This is puerile and dilettantish compared to 1.168 by BT, which explores the golden ratio with far greater relevancy. Look it up on veoh, where they have the entire video in high quality.

I'm not criticizing the submitter of this video, but rather Maynard, who would prefer the role of Pied Piper leading children; As though no one with any maturity would ever accuse him of being facile or lazy. Look elsewhere unless you enjoy seeing ambition checked by aptitude or the humping of dry wells.

[Bikerdude69]

There are many meanings behind most tool songs. Maynard and Tool are geniuses, and so is Johnathan Davis of Korn. GREAT video! thanks!

[cannabishead4420]

I think you got the -2 because you mentioned Jon Davis... Sure Jon is a good musician but he is also clinically insane lol.. Well not really but he is a crazy guy.. I think he is gay too... Well he claims he has gay tendencies but he isn't gay but nonetheless maynard is a god trapped in a mortal body.

[FireyDime]

4:30 is a Metroid; I knew they were real.

[weaver2109]

Nah, metroids have legs

[iwbtssothy]

Wow. Well done great work! Thanx for posting this vid

[jailarson]

Monumental. Top 5 all time vids that I have ever seen on Youtube. Nicely done.

[volkov1987]

This is just amazing. Not only did you explain everything to detail but you made an awesome video for Lateralus:)

[Cheesymcnoodle]

Very well done video, but a little over-analitical at certain points. But the whole Fibonacci sequence idea is bretty cool.

[KorreltjeZout]

6+7=5+8=4+9=13=1+12=2+11=3+10

there is logic in the sequence, but it is not Fibonacci

[augustcaducus]

What I can't understand is how:

"6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10­" is a Fiboncci sequence.

[cannabishead4420]

6 5 4 13 12 11 10 is a spiral descending

7 8 9 1 2 3 is a spiral ascending.. Watch

TOOL: Secundus Gradus (The secret music in TOOL -Part2

It explains it perfectly in fact this video and that video coincide perfectly if you watch both it will all become clear.

[d3t0xxxx]

yaya and Maynard is sending us all secret messages for those who care to hear...open ur minds

[Naminator99]

Never ceases to amaze me.

[Member331]

At 7:05 Does anyone Know what VC stands for? Message Me

[Deicide128]

so thats why they take 5+ years to release an album.

[jailarson]

Math is hard.

[cannabishead4420]

I think so yes lol

[antaba21]

Brilliant.... just Brilliant... and i thought there were no gods. Tool proved mr wrong.