O.K. So this "badoutfit" guy is obviously some hardcore rightwing Libertarian/Republican/Tea Bagger Nutjob. I had to drop my "Great" Blue Cross Insurance once the premiums were over $500 A Month! I'm now on Medi-Cal and am getting all the benefits with no Premiums! P.S. The Video is great!
I have health insurance and last year I paid $6000 more for things that they "don't cover". If you think that your'e covered- wait until you really need it. Surprise!
whats really funny, is that all the politicians pushing this load of crap made sure that they and their families will not be subject to that health care public option they want for everyone else. The only Public Option the men in this video are part of is the option that we pay for their healthcare
We need tort reform. We know that works. Just ask Texas. The reason why the companies are whittleing away of what is covered is because of those greed bastards that file one meritless claim after another.
I hope all conservatives that are against reform and the public option lose their health insurance coverage, get cancer, then have to sell their house and all their guns, mooseheads and Bibles in order to buy their medication.
Because the video was saying that since those select senators had govt healthcare then it should be wonderful for everyone. It was a point I was highlighting on in my first comment. Then you came back with socialism blah blah blah which I never mentioned the word nor was hinting at it.
So what you're saying is that if my health gets so bad then the govt will have an ambulance parked outside my house 24/7 just for precaution?
So who is going to get the heart first? You or one of those senators? Conservatives can be open minded as well. For example they agreed with the liberals that Bush shifted the tax burden from the rich to the middle class. Yes, both sides actually agreed something.
Of course they agree sometimes. There a re a couple of republicans that support this bill. One of the people that worked with Obama to make the bill was a republican.
This video hits it on the head. These poor people who have been "droned" by right-wing nut talk show have no idea that they're shooting theirselves in the foot, when, for the first time, they may actually have a shot at having a real choice in healthcare.
Um...no...those senators did not "belong" in a health care plan for 31 years...last time I checked they lived here their whole lives. Unless thats just bad grammar and you are saying they have been fighting for it for that long. Funny video though.
Congress IS NOT covered under a public option. I met yesterday morning with our local Congressman, and he is covered under a plan offered through the local BCBS plan. It is a rich plan, and anything but a plan design like the public option they want the tax payers to be under.
I agree! Liberals want us to become Cuba! Listen to the wisdom of Ronald Reagan and do away with this socialized medicine! Call your senators and tell them we're sick and tired of communism! No more medicare, social security, or VA hospitals! If I hear your mother whining and dying in her basement, good! Let's kill all the old people and fuck all these weak useless veterans!! I only want to see tattoo'd white trash types and their fat walmart shopping piggy wives! Yeah, God Bless America!
This is a complete load of bullshit. Congress is NOT covered under a public option. It is a private plan offered to public servants. There is a big difference. This myth has been debunked so many times that repeating it just makes you look like an idiot.
SICKO? LOL. That movie has been proven to be nothing but a bunch of falsehoods. Even liberals admit he's a joke. Yeah, Ok, Cuba has better healthcare than the US. Come on, stop making fools of yourselves. Ha, Micheal Moore. At least do better than that!
You liberals are such losers. You won't be happy until EVERYONE is a loser like you. That's what socialism celebrates. LOSERS! Well, your Black activist, community organizer president is going down in flames over this. THANK GOD!
Wow, you're not smart! The Census does not collect that kind of data. If it does, show me your source. I checked the Census Bureau studies, and the only data I could find was the "Small Area Health Insurance Estimates" aka SAHIE. This study has no metrics for the number of people who seek or have sought health care in another country.
LMAO!!! That movie is a propaganda film! No - I am asking YOU to site for yourself actual evidence that is NOT from a freakin movie!!!!
OMG, this country is SOOOO brain dead!
Show me the census data or study that sites the number of people with or without insurance that are flocking to other countries for better health care. I CHALLENGE you!!! Come on!
It's a MOVIE! You need to stop watching Michael Moore propaganda movies and go do some research on your own. You're being a drone and a sheep when you do that. Look a little further past what is being dangled in front of you by a left-wing nut job like Moore. There's much more info and data out there than that.
Even funnier - A Canadian Harry and Louis!!!! Harry gets cancer and dies waiting months on end for treatment due to goverment rationing. Louis passes out from the smell of a medical clinic waiting room 12 hours after showing up for her OBGYN appointment!!!
You're right but people don't want to hear it. We should keep our system (best in the world at number 37), where the profits of the insurance companies go before the health of the insured, where 60% of foreclosures are due to unpayable medical bills, where the pharma corporations dictate the prices (charging $50 for a $2 pill), where 48 million are uninsured, where 22,000/year die from no coverage. People who want health insurance should work more, especially if they're sick.
1. The USPS would be bankrupt if it was a private company. USPS is subsidized. Does money grow on trees to help your family budget?
2. Why does Obama send his children to private school in DC, while at the same time opposing vouchers for private citizens if public Education is so successful?
3. One may not want the "public option". With Obama's mandate, many will be REQUIRED and FORCED into a government run option against their will.
1. Didn't you ask if private companies could compete against a govt program? Clearly they can and do.
2. Again, an admission that private schools can and do compete. Of course the Obamas are rich. If all schools were private and only for the wealthy, then we'd have as many uneducated as we do uninsured.
3. Like you're REQUIRED to have an education or public fire and police protection? Yeah, what a nightmare.
1. Tell me more about "private companies" that compete with "government programs". While you're at it, tell me more about government programs that run efficiently. Please elaborate on how competition takes place when the government run "option" can operate at a loss?
2. Once again, why is Obama against vouchers?
3. Governments Constitutional role IS to protect us. NOT to protect us from ourselves via mandated personal health insurance. Especially when the "option" is government run.
Are you for a health care market solution for its own sake? Because an average insurance company operates in the range of 70-80% inefficiency. Every public health care system out there runs at about 95%. That's with better care and lower costs. I'm just wondering what exactly you're protecting in our current system. The market is supposed to get us better, cheaper products, but our health care system has utterly failed to do so, to the degree that a public option can't help but be better.
Seriously, can you explain your position better? This post just doesn't make sense for debate or discussion.
If you're simply asking if I believe in the free market - yes, I do. It does work. Is it absolutely perfect - no. In America we innovate and produce because of incentive. Have you heard of "The American Dream"?
Creating an even more massive welfare state doesn't move America forward.
Enough with the Obama 'Straw Man" arguments. Nobody is insisting on doing nothing.
The point is that our system is terrible when compared to public systems that already exist. The goal of the free market is not the free market; the goal is better products and services for a better price, which hasn't manifest in our current privatized system. No straw man here. That's why people like me are entertaining a public option, because the current system is inferior by a mile to every other.
You're ridiculous. Fine, don't take health care. Don't call the police when your house is robbed, don't call the fire department when your house is burning down and send them away when they show up. Get private contracts for all of that, okay? Oh, and don't mail anything through the post office either.
Yet, you cant refute any of my points. If you cant understand some of the BIG words, you might try your own advice with regard to the Dictionary, oh and might I also suggest a Thesaurus.
but somehow i don't think its going to make a difference, because to understand my argument you would need to have an understanding of economics.
Your "points" are barely worth refuting, like refuting someone who insists the earth is flat.
1. The point of this ad is that even IF your hospital is covered, the insurance companies can and do find a way to drop you, sticking you with the bills despite the agreement that you "buy into." Also, you are acknowledging that a bureaucrat is still choosing which doctors and hospitals you can go to even in the wonderful world of private insurance. There's no difference if the govt does it.
2. This is typical right-wing hypocrisy. You accuse someone of ill-informed scare-tactics, and then three sentences later claim that "Alice from the DMV will be determining your emergency care."
Private insurance is not perfect. Nothing is perfect.
Bureaucrats do indeed meddle too much already. Give tort reform a try and see what happens.
Slow the fuck down people. Why does Obama want to push all this stuff through as quickly as possible? With as little debate as possible? Why are you so quick and willing to give away control and responsibility of your own lives to the government?
O.K. So this "badoutfit" guy is obviously some hardcore rightwing Libertarian/Republican/Tea Bagger Nutjob. I had to drop my "Great" Blue Cross Insurance once the premiums were over $500 A Month! I'm now on Medi-Cal and am getting all the benefits with no Premiums! P.S. The Video is great!
530broken 4 months ago
I have health insurance and last year I paid $6000 more for things that they "don't cover". If you think that your'e covered- wait until you really need it. Surprise!
Laird18 2 years ago
whats really funny, is that all the politicians pushing this load of crap made sure that they and their families will not be subject to that health care public option they want for everyone else. The only Public Option the men in this video are part of is the option that we pay for their healthcare
viancome34 2 years ago
We need tort reform. We know that works. Just ask Texas. The reason why the companies are whittleing away of what is covered is because of those greed bastards that file one meritless claim after another.
mccommas2 2 years ago
I hope all conservatives that are against reform and the public option lose their health insurance coverage, get cancer, then have to sell their house and all their guns, mooseheads and Bibles in order to buy their medication.
gman2000 2 years ago
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you are an asshole
DGBBFU2 2 years ago
No, your father is the asshole for not using a condom.
gman2000 2 years ago
This video says it all eh.
mattyabsley 2 years ago
lol, that was hilarious. Well done dude.
HerrBismarck 2 years ago
Because the video was saying that since those select senators had govt healthcare then it should be wonderful for everyone. It was a point I was highlighting on in my first comment. Then you came back with socialism blah blah blah which I never mentioned the word nor was hinting at it.
So what you're saying is that if my health gets so bad then the govt will have an ambulance parked outside my house 24/7 just for precaution?
karatechopu2 2 years ago
So who is going to get the heart first? You or one of those senators? Conservatives can be open minded as well. For example they agreed with the liberals that Bush shifted the tax burden from the rich to the middle class. Yes, both sides actually agreed something.
karatechopu2 2 years ago
Of course they agree sometimes. There a re a couple of republicans that support this bill. One of the people that worked with Obama to make the bill was a republican.
HerrBismarck 2 years ago
This video hits it on the head. These poor people who have been "droned" by right-wing nut talk show have no idea that they're shooting theirselves in the foot, when, for the first time, they may actually have a shot at having a real choice in healthcare.
jrhode13 2 years ago
And libs are different?
karatechopu2 2 years ago
Um...no...those senators did not "belong" in a health care plan for 31 years...last time I checked they lived here their whole lives. Unless thats just bad grammar and you are saying they have been fighting for it for that long. Funny video though.
SpartanCXVII 2 years ago
Well in his case, I'd recommend Haldol or Thorazine - because shrills for the american healthcare system are psychotic. :v
SeverEnergia 2 years ago
Its generic now. Generic is epic (and trolls american pharma corps). :x
SeverEnergia 2 years ago
Congress IS NOT covered under a public option. I met yesterday morning with our local Congressman, and he is covered under a plan offered through the local BCBS plan. It is a rich plan, and anything but a plan design like the public option they want the tax payers to be under.
kkbowen12 2 years ago
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I agree! Liberals want us to become Cuba! Listen to the wisdom of Ronald Reagan and do away with this socialized medicine! Call your senators and tell them we're sick and tired of communism! No more medicare, social security, or VA hospitals! If I hear your mother whining and dying in her basement, good! Let's kill all the old people and fuck all these weak useless veterans!! I only want to see tattoo'd white trash types and their fat walmart shopping piggy wives! Yeah, God Bless America!
briansensei2112 2 years ago
The libs are ranting and raving again. I do wish they could remember to take their Prozac.
PistolPete2 2 years ago
This is a complete load of bullshit. Congress is NOT covered under a public option. It is a private plan offered to public servants. There is a big difference. This myth has been debunked so many times that repeating it just makes you look like an idiot.
EddieSixString 2 years ago 2
So very true. Who do you think is going to get a new heart first? One of those senators or BloodMoneyConglomera?
karatechopu2 2 years ago
SICKO? LOL. That movie has been proven to be nothing but a bunch of falsehoods. Even liberals admit he's a joke. Yeah, Ok, Cuba has better healthcare than the US. Come on, stop making fools of yourselves. Ha, Micheal Moore. At least do better than that!
harrycrowe3 2 years ago
You liberals are such losers. You won't be happy until EVERYONE is a loser like you. That's what socialism celebrates. LOSERS! Well, your Black activist, community organizer president is going down in flames over this. THANK GOD!
harrycrowe3 2 years ago
One questions .. One!!!! How many people from the U.S. are heading over to England or France for their "superior" health care.
NADA!!!!!!! gee, I wonder why?
whiskeysauer 2 years ago
Wow, your smart according to the U.S. Census thousands of Americans go overseas for healthcare every year.
Willjk89 2 years ago
Wow, you're not smart! The Census does not collect that kind of data. If it does, show me your source. I checked the Census Bureau studies, and the only data I could find was the "Small Area Health Insurance Estimates" aka SAHIE. This study has no metrics for the number of people who seek or have sought health care in another country.
Again, show me your source!
whiskeysauer 2 years ago
Watch Sicko by Micheal Moore.
Willjk89 2 years ago
LMAO!!! That movie is a propaganda film! No - I am asking YOU to site for yourself actual evidence that is NOT from a freakin movie!!!!
OMG, this country is SOOOO brain dead!
Show me the census data or study that sites the number of people with or without insurance that are flocking to other countries for better health care. I CHALLENGE you!!! Come on!
whiskeysauer 2 years ago
I can give you video proof if you just watch Sicko. Believe me. just go down blockbuster and rent it.
Willjk89 2 years ago
It's a MOVIE! You need to stop watching Michael Moore propaganda movies and go do some research on your own. You're being a drone and a sheep when you do that. Look a little further past what is being dangled in front of you by a left-wing nut job like Moore. There's much more info and data out there than that.
whiskeysauer 2 years ago
Fucking morons, keep sucking down the koolaid. lol.
geists2k 2 years ago
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Willjk89 2 years ago
this would be funnier if this didn't actually happen to people.
Especially ironic when people say "We'll ration like in Canada".
They ration now. And they just flat out deny care. Cost the company too much money and you are SOL.
So "medical rationing" is kind of a dumb threat to make.
Why do people also keep acting as if Canada is the ONLY nationalized health care system around?
booley 2 years ago
Even funnier - A Canadian Harry and Louis!!!! Harry gets cancer and dies waiting months on end for treatment due to goverment rationing. Louis passes out from the smell of a medical clinic waiting room 12 hours after showing up for her OBGYN appointment!!!
mjd001 2 years ago
I wish this could run on tv, right after the pharma/insurance spots!
Jazzycat47 2 years ago
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Please Government ... give me free shit.
You are my Master.
Take care of me.
Tell me what to do and how to live.
I am beholden of you.
I cannot take care of myself or be responsible for myself.
Please lecture me some more Obama.
Please tell me what I should do now.
D8735 2 years ago
I hope that when you have medical problems you have enough money saved up to pay for your chemo and radiation therapy.
EpicureMammon 2 years ago
You're right but people don't want to hear it. We should keep our system (best in the world at number 37), where the profits of the insurance companies go before the health of the insured, where 60% of foreclosures are due to unpayable medical bills, where the pharma corporations dictate the prices (charging $50 for a $2 pill), where 48 million are uninsured, where 22,000/year die from no coverage. People who want health insurance should work more, especially if they're sick.
USA! USA! USA!
rhabdoviridae 2 years ago
1) The government will not have to run a "public option" for profit. What does this do to real competition in the free market?
2) Show me where government has succeeded in running a social program (of this magnitude) successfully?
3) Interesting that it's called an "option", when the government will mandate you to buy coverage if you want to breath American air.
D8735 2 years ago
1. The govt runs the post office, and yet UPS, Fed-ex, DHL and others all have thriving package delivery businesses.
2. The military. The fire dept. The police. Education.
3. It's called the public option because you can opt to buy private insurance.
badoutfit 2 years ago
1. The USPS would be bankrupt if it was a private company. USPS is subsidized. Does money grow on trees to help your family budget?
2. Why does Obama send his children to private school in DC, while at the same time opposing vouchers for private citizens if public Education is so successful?
3. One may not want the "public option". With Obama's mandate, many will be REQUIRED and FORCED into a government run option against their will.
D8735 2 years ago
1. Didn't you ask if private companies could compete against a govt program? Clearly they can and do.
2. Again, an admission that private schools can and do compete. Of course the Obamas are rich. If all schools were private and only for the wealthy, then we'd have as many uneducated as we do uninsured.
3. Like you're REQUIRED to have an education or public fire and police protection? Yeah, what a nightmare.
badoutfit 2 years ago
1. Tell me more about "private companies" that compete with "government programs". While you're at it, tell me more about government programs that run efficiently. Please elaborate on how competition takes place when the government run "option" can operate at a loss?
2. Once again, why is Obama against vouchers?
3. Governments Constitutional role IS to protect us. NOT to protect us from ourselves via mandated personal health insurance. Especially when the "option" is government run.
D8735 2 years ago
Are you for a health care market solution for its own sake? Because an average insurance company operates in the range of 70-80% inefficiency. Every public health care system out there runs at about 95%. That's with better care and lower costs. I'm just wondering what exactly you're protecting in our current system. The market is supposed to get us better, cheaper products, but our health care system has utterly failed to do so, to the degree that a public option can't help but be better.
StanrickKubley 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but your post doesn't make sense.
D8735 2 years ago
Seriously, can you explain your position better? This post just doesn't make sense for debate or discussion.
If you're simply asking if I believe in the free market - yes, I do. It does work. Is it absolutely perfect - no. In America we innovate and produce because of incentive. Have you heard of "The American Dream"?
Creating an even more massive welfare state doesn't move America forward.
Enough with the Obama 'Straw Man" arguments. Nobody is insisting on doing nothing.
D8735 2 years ago
The point is that our system is terrible when compared to public systems that already exist. The goal of the free market is not the free market; the goal is better products and services for a better price, which hasn't manifest in our current privatized system. No straw man here. That's why people like me are entertaining a public option, because the current system is inferior by a mile to every other.
StanrickKubley 2 years ago
You're ridiculous. Fine, don't take health care. Don't call the police when your house is robbed, don't call the fire department when your house is burning down and send them away when they show up. Get private contracts for all of that, okay? Oh, and don't mail anything through the post office either.
EpicureMammon 2 years ago
I love the two thumbs down (as of today), when all I've posted above are simple truths:
1. USPS is government run and would be bankrupt if a private company. Your tax dollars (in excess) subsidize the US Postal Service.
2. Obama DOES send his kids to private school. While at the same time opposing vouchers for us to do the same thing.
3. Obama now SUPPORTS the mandate for individuals to buy and carry health insurance.
D8735 2 years ago
Kinda missing some details.
1. the USPS isnt' supposed to make a profit. That's why they are also CHEAPER. Private companies simply raise their prices far beyond their costs
AND doesn't that ruin the claim that a gov run system would be unfair competition since there is still Fed Ex and UPS?
2. But Obama does not expect other sot pay for his kids private school. Why should my tax money be used for your kids private school.
3. That's a compromise and a bad one. This isnt' about Obama
booley 2 years ago
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EpicureMammon 2 years ago
I have a business model for you to invest in. Let's provide healthcare
for people with these three conditions:
1. We can never DENY anyone coverage.
2. We can never DECREASE anyone's coverage.
3. We can never DROP anyone's coverage.
What investor wants a piece of that action? No one.
Take away the three "D's" and the private healthcare
market folds.
robobudde 2 years ago 2
What a load of horse shit
1. you know if your hospital is covered when you sign up for your insurance. you agree to this when you buy it
2. the triple bypass comment is a complete fallacy, ment to scare the ill-informed
3. guess if you cant follow the instructions your subject to the consequences huh?
3-a. they do the same thing on your tax form, screw up there and your ass belongs to the IRS
I really don't want Alice from the DMV determining my emergency care.
try $68,000 per person annually.
got2xlr8 2 years ago
Please, buy yourself a dictionary and grammar book. You only compound your ignorance of healthcare issues.
gusgus41 2 years ago
Yet, you cant refute any of my points. If you cant understand some of the BIG words, you might try your own advice with regard to the Dictionary, oh and might I also suggest a Thesaurus.
but somehow i don't think its going to make a difference, because to understand my argument you would need to have an understanding of economics.
got2xlr8 2 years ago
Your "points" are barely worth refuting, like refuting someone who insists the earth is flat.
1. The point of this ad is that even IF your hospital is covered, the insurance companies can and do find a way to drop you, sticking you with the bills despite the agreement that you "buy into." Also, you are acknowledging that a bureaucrat is still choosing which doctors and hospitals you can go to even in the wonderful world of private insurance. There's no difference if the govt does it.
badoutfit 2 years ago
2. This is typical right-wing hypocrisy. You accuse someone of ill-informed scare-tactics, and then three sentences later claim that "Alice from the DMV will be determining your emergency care."
Talk about horse shit.
badoutfit 2 years ago
That's simply not true.
Private insurance is not perfect. Nothing is perfect.
Bureaucrats do indeed meddle too much already. Give tort reform a try and see what happens.
Slow the fuck down people. Why does Obama want to push all this stuff through as quickly as possible? With as little debate as possible? Why are you so quick and willing to give away control and responsibility of your own lives to the government?
D8735 2 years ago
awesome!! tells it like it is...
1FrisbeeGreg 2 years ago
I'd guess that something exactly like this has happened.
bzemky 2 years ago
Great - thanks for making this!
Stranahan 2 years ago
This needs to be sent to everyone. I dont think the argument could be made any better
ricrebelo 2 years ago
Awesome video! Great job!!!
ColumbiaLibertas 2 years ago
OH yeah, it's not about insurance it's about health care. I dropped BCBS when it got to be 450$ per month for an just myself. I'd never had a claim.
This blood sucking industry must go!
These are the things of which revolutions are made!
brotherthedog 2 years ago