I had to watch this video for my bio homework. Great video! Help me with this question, its a graded assignment. What lessons can be learned from watching the videos of the disaster? Give two.
@turneynicholas Except if you were one of the employees, you probably would not see the pain and suffering coming in the future. Many of them were not properly educated about the effects of a nuclear disaster, or atleast how bad they would be. This is mainly due to Soviet Propaganda that basically said that their plants would never have accidents.
@XxJ0K3RxX1000 That's just because of the amount of radiation involved and that fact that it travels in the form of dust. This kind of radiation is also able to penetrate through just about anything, that amount of radiation could penetrate through anything that isn't at least 10cm thick of lead or 10 metres of concrete. (but don't quote me on that i'm not an expert, I just find the subject very interesting and so I read and watch lots of stuff about it) :D
Good post but clearly a poorly made, cliched documentary. Wooden acting by thesps with an eye on an award and a a pay cheque. It is full of holes and narrative gaps and Probably not any sort of accurate or even clear depiction of what happened.
@hotbabe35411 what is the world coming to.. think about this, this whole thing could happen all over again... almost just did.... imagine, i could be worse... much worse... i never wanna experience a Chernobyl 2.0 :S
i never myself said that fusion itself would be the height of technology, either, only that it would be an excellent power source if harnessed in the future. history never ends and neither will the advancement of technology. you also can't capture the tone of someone's voice in text...
fusion is the future. fission (like all modern power stations) is not. anyone who thinks fission is the height of all possible technology is arrogant.
@jncarlos007 i never myself said that fusion itself would be the height of technology, either, only that it would be an excellent power source if harnessed in the future. history never ends and neither will the advancement of technology. you also can't capture the tone of someone's voice in text...
Communism...do you really want your government to hide disasters like this? Because of communism, thousands of children are paying for the older generation's mistakes. Go to hell Karl Marx
Actually the official report of the expected death toll and radiation readings were presented at a UN meeting but dismissed by world leaders as they thought around 40,000 deaths were too high to make publicly aware. so it wasn't just the communists that covered up the massive scale of the disaster.
The soviets understood the machines. However, often the workers were lead to believe that the reactors were flawless and would never melt down... That's why the workers are so casual... And the boss was just an dickhead covering for himself by saying it was under control. This is a documentary because every bit of it happened, but it is obviously a dramatisation...
Stupid communist bastards don't know a shit. Let's play with nuclear energy and push buttons to test this pile of shit we build.FFs,they didn't even know how to measure radiation,not to mention they have instruments who can measure up to 3.6 Gy/hr.
No, the button was supposed to insert the Graphite/Boron rods into the reactor, halting the Nuclear Fission Reaction.
But there was an accident, the rods graphite tip was the only part that was exposed to the reactor. Graphite was a moderator in this type of reactor, meaning it's used to slow down neutrons so that a Nuclear Chain Reaction is possible. Boron slows this reaction.
It made the power surge on an already unstable reactor, causing a massive explosion. No containment ther
People were smoking cause in those lines of work like working in a factory/power plant EVERYONE smokes. It's hard not to pick up the habit. Believe me I work as a welder. EVERYONE in my shift smokes. You either smoke yourself or you go on break with your buddy that smokes.
More people may have died durring Coal plants but This affects not only an Ecosystem but also many groups of people for years to come. Radiation gets into the ground, and water... So...Your water and Food supply can be affected by this.
@FlashProduktions no but seriously, what do you think of the situation in Japan, Chernobyl, and all places that had a nuclear accidents, is it worth it to use nuclear power knowing that its very harmful?
@Q8Bo3abed Its not very harmful. What you and every single person that is against nuclear power dont get is that nuclear power is safe. American Reactors and European Reactors are safe and prepared for any Natural Disaster. No one had every expected a earthquake that big in japan. Yet, the reactor right now is saving itself. Chernobyl will never happen again, as it was a design flaw which has been taken out of all Russian Plants. There is no risk.
@Q8Bo3abed Also, you do realize more people have died of Coal plants then Nuclear power facilities. If I remember correctly, more people died of Dams bursting then have died directly from Nuclear Power. Chernobyl itself only killed 50 people directly. Radiation didnt actually kill many people, although it did increase levels of Cancer.
@FlashProduktions at least coal plants and dams have a short time span of danger, nuclear plants have a long time span of radiation lasting approximately 50,000 years, and you can't guarantee full protection from natural disasters such as a high speed tornado ripping everything in its path , or a huge hurricane flooding everywhere. Don't forget the fact that nuclear radiation is the cause of mutations, birth defects, radiation sickness, and bunch of diseases. FACT: we are vulnerable to accidents
@Q8Bo3abed They dont last 50,000 years, its nuclear waste does. And if held in tunnels underground, will never be a problem. And the containment building could easily stand up to a tornado, and I dont think there are any plants in the area where Hurricanes take place. And floods can easily be taken care of considering how well designed plants are. FACT: I never said we werent vulnerable. Im saying that nothing bad will happen if correct measures are taken.
@FlashProduktions Another thing I wanna mention, I agree with you that nuclear power is beneficial and useful. Nuclear Medicine helped cure tumors and cancer, as well as electricity. The only problem is that its risks outweigh the benefits. No matter how you design the plant, fatal errors are inevitable. If only we can resolve and clean up chernobyl from the accident, I will agree with your argument. If we can't be responsible for our mistakes, nuclear power should be stopped
@Q8Bo3abed The thing is, we learned from all of our mistakes. The mistakes we made arent something like "oh let me remove this piece and it wont happen". We learned lessons. We understood that Safety comes before jobs and power. We learned that sometimes the machine is more powerful then the man, and that the machine itself can solve our problems. Its easy to dismiss Nuclear Power as unsafe when you use accidents that were inevitable. But its another thing to look at NPP today and realize safety
I know little of atomic power generation..would any of this disaster be because of faulty engineering? No disrespect to anyone, but the soviets were pretty well known for "reverse engineering" i.e taking someone else's idea and copying it without really understanding it.
@mrspivvy I don't thing there's a single reason alone, more a culmination of things. Foremost would be the cold-war era mentality. A culture of fear, state secrets, lack of responsibility, & people unable to be assertive & point out shortcomings, without fear of losing their job or sent to gulags etc. Reverse engineering & rushed construction was a huge thing on both sides, not just the Soviets, although they perhaps had a more gung-ho attitude towards things, particular the nuclear industry.
@GREENVK Yes, this came across pretty well in the film- nobody wanted to be the one to admit culpability or indeed make any kind of decision. thanks for the reply
@GREENVK Spot on - the Japanese disaster proves that even a people renowned for their attention to detail and technological mastery were unable to prevent a large scale disaster. The Japanese reactor failed because they ASSUMED that their design would handle any major event. The pumps were designed to keep going if power was cut to the station. They thought it would work without fail if the electrical grid was disabled. They did not assume that both systems would fail. Human element = failure.
@mrspivvy Soviets made the first nuclear power plant and were the only one to have a nuclear power plant of this type, the flaws here were primarily ones of understanding the human factor and depending too much on the technology to preform as expected.
@mrspivvy yes, they did copy... but i think that assuming that they did not really understand it is copmletely wrong. i was born in soviet union, and the scientists there used to be very respected, extremely intelligent and with bright minds, not sure about now though...
Well, in one case, it wasn't so much faulty engineering as faulty (and negligent and criminal) implementation of the plan for the reactor. The roof of the reactor, which was supposed to be built with non-flammable materials and serve to contain any melt down or explosion was built with flammable materials instead. Moreover, they were in the process of conducting a test that was supposed to have been completed before the reactor was ever made operational.
@mrspivvy You're wrong there. Yes, the Soviets did copy ideas, as every nation did and still does. However, you are very mistaken if you think that they didn't understand it
@mrspivvy the Soviet RBMK reactors are a Soviet invention and don't exist anywhere else in the world. The disaster in Chernobyl was - like most disasters - an unfortunate mix of construction errors, wrong operation and risky engineering.
@mrspivvy I'm reading Charles Perrow's book on Normal or System Accidents. Complex systems such as nuclear reactors extremely complex, tightly coupled(interdependent) systems. Where failures in one system can interact with failures in another in a way that could not be predicted by the designers and will be incomprehensible to the operator.
Accidents are a normal product of these systems, which is bad as nuclear accidents are catastrophic.
This accident was mainly caused by human error so don't go blaming the nuclear industry for it when it was a few mens fault. and the other reactors were still running into the 90's at chernobyl.
CORE of reactor was emtting up to 30000R/hr. Eyelid of reactor varied from 500 to 2000R/hr. On the roof radiation was between 12-15000R/hr. First Degree Radiation poisining is 100R. Second is 200R. All the way up to 400R, full recovery is possible, after that, medical care is for comfort only.
you know nuclear power isnt actually renewable? we only have 590 years left & i know it seems like a long time but for me the risks are pretty big. chernobyl taught us that, if nothing else.
@allampedup8803 Too late. the body has allready absorbed the huge radiation. The two guys who opened the watervalves know this. That's why they stayed 'cause i't would be useless to go. You're a dead man walking.......
yes, acording to wikipedia there are 11 RMBK type reactors still in operation today, modified of corse. 4 in St. petersburg, 3 in Smolensk and 4 in kiev.
it is Roengen's per hour, a measure of ionising radiation accumulated over a period of time. The roentgen per hour is the old unit. The new SI unit is the Gray (Gy) per hour.
One R/hr = 8.73mGy/hr
A lethal dose for 50% of the population is 4.5Gy (whole body dose)
Therefore, at a level of 15,000R/Hr, you would receive a lethal dose in as little as about 3 minutes if you stood in the same spot.
@ehbabbeh you sure can. The majority of dangerous gamma ray emitting isotopes are short lived, and most have decayed away now. What remains are the long lived alpha and beta emitters (strontium, plutonium, americium, etc etc). There are a few longer lived gamma emitters, like Cobalt 57, Cobalt 60, Caesium 137 etc that are still around, but even they are becoming deminished. You certainly wouldn't want to go digging around in the soil and not wash afterwards, but walking around is fine.
@ehbabbeh it's all blocked off by security check points and barbed wire for 30km around the reactor, but you can go there as part of an organised tour group. The tour companies organise all the security passes etc
@rockstrips most of the higher level gamma ray emitting products are gone. Longer lived gamma emitters (Cs137, Cobalt 60, Cobalt 57 are still there, but are also decaying away now. The long-lived beta and alpha emitters (Plutonium, uranium, thorium, strontium etc etc) will be in the soil for hundreds of thousands of years. So in reality, they will almost never go away.
@BenTennison16 3.6 are first measurement from control room, later they sent the guy to retake measurements from closer point to reactor an then he reported that he feels so ill ant measurements are in fact 15 000
@HeyMarkedOne8 not quite, the station had several counters that only went up to 3.6, when it said 3.6 they claimed that was what it was. However later they sent someone out with a higher counter, this read 15 000 but they dismissed this as a faulty instrument, days later they finally pulled their finger out their asses and got everyone the hell out of there
There has been an increase in thyroid cancer rates in young people due to the presence of radioactive iodine that is incorporated directly into the thyroid gland by normal biological processes. However the statistics on this are sketchy, because of the vast dislocations caused to the entire population of the area. Other cancer rates are at background level they had before the accident (high anyway because of bad pollution behind the Iron Curtain). The affected children respond well to treatment.
This is also false - some transient mutations are SOMETIMES seen in first generation offspring - at Chernobyl the only manifestation of this was occasional albinism in swallows who were nesting in the very sarcophagus around the failed reactor. Otherwise the wildlife is perfectly normal, and thriving.
Very little is known about the long-term effects of moderate radiation exposure at levels now considered dangerous, to be on the safe side. Chernobyl provides very encouraging data on this.
Your DNA and RNA are not "systematically destroyed" - this is just bunk. The most affected cells are those in the intestinal lining and bone marrow - death occurs usually from dehydration brought on by diarrhea or infection, due to the absence of white blood cells resulting from loss of bone marrow. Since bone marrow takes a long time to be re-established, in the most severe cases only a bone marrow transplant can save the victim. I am not asking you to believe anything - these are facts.
This is nothing but anti-nuke hysteria - if you swallow extremely radioactive substances with a long half-life like polonium or plutonium then yes, mutations leading to cancer can occur IN A TINY AREA directly around the matter. Alpha radiation itself is stopped by a layer of summer clothes, or your skin. Beta and gamma radiation is penetrating but the damage to the organism is from destruction at the cellular, not genetic, level; stated simply cells are directly killed as with any other poison.
Your DNA is not "grossly transformed" - this is a bald-faced LIE - your cells are killed by the ionizing radiation, particularly those in the intestinal lining - death usually occurs because of dehydration and infection of the destroyed tissue. You do NOT become some sci-fi mutant!!
@antimatterXXXIII Yes it does "grossly transform" the DNA, silly! That's part of the cell-killing mechanism! And you don't turn into some "sci-fi mutant" when the DNA is damaged, you get real sick and die from it!
This is the most OUTRAGEOUS bullshit ever propagated!! Even lethal dose of radiation - I mean ENORMOUS amounts, 1000 Grays, do not have instant effects - the very worst cases from direct exposure to a near-critical reaction have caused illness within several hours. Even a normally fatal dose will not cause instant symptoms, not to mention skin discoloration. This is nothing but nuke-hysteria propaganda!!
this accident was caused by irresponsible , wreckless greed (I mean no disrespect to russia / ukraine today) human life should be considered priorty over tech , the chernobyl owners ignored this , the reactor was not safe in the first place it was a sleeping bomb.
I knew that the explosion was horrible, and that people got infected... but, omg I didn't FULLY realize how absolutely terrible it was... people just drop ill. All those poor people :(
You can live in ignorence and not understand why nuclear accidents happen or you can discover and perhaps agree with us. There is almost nothing wrong with CURRENT nuclear energy
@Helenifyful or you think there's nothing wrong. but what if right now that same information is classified like back then? how would you prevent a disaster the same or worst than this? you don't even know! because no one told you. as far as you been told everything is just fine with the CURRENT nuclear energy.
@Helenifyful I beg to differ. Yes, there are significant improvements to nuclear reactor technology that makes it much more safer to use, and there's even aircraft carriers in America that are powered by nuclear technology as far as I know. But the risks are always there. No doubt about it. I mean, how do you dispose Depleted Uranium when it's still radioactive? It's expensive, and it probably could get out of control.
Cold fusion is the way forwards. Generates even more energy, produces no radioactive wate, only produces water. Problem is, its even more expensive and in order to work at all needs to be on a massive scale. They're currently planning to build a 3-mile station underground in France that could potentially power half of europe. Sadly, no one'll really be willing to fund it, but you're right, Nuclear power while having definite,undeniable risks, has many benefits.
I work at a nuclear plant and in part 1, they are running down a corridor to check on the reactor, and we have a similar corridor where i work, and now everytime im walking through it, I'm freaked out that the lights will flash red... But ofcourse, the company says our reactors are, whats that word they used... "Flawless" :/
you`re afraid because of what happened in Chernobyl and I understand your fear.
I was feeling the same way until recently.
my friend`s dad works at a nuclear plant (not as big as Chernobyl`s but still) and from what I heard and understood when I visited that plant, the chance of something similar to happen is really, really small, I would say almost impossible
I had to watch this video for my bio homework. Great video! Help me with this question, its a graded assignment. What lessons can be learned from watching the videos of the disaster? Give two.
picouleecalgary 22 hours ago
if i was in that reactor i would just fucking jump in and kill myself
turneynicholas 1 week ago
@turneynicholas Except if you were one of the employees, you probably would not see the pain and suffering coming in the future. Many of them were not properly educated about the effects of a nuclear disaster, or atleast how bad they would be. This is mainly due to Soviet Propaganda that basically said that their plants would never have accidents.
FlashProduktions 1 week ago
aw alex akimov (guy with the glasses) is such a HOTTIE
starryeyedfangirl 3 weeks ago
awwwwww the guy with the glasses is sooooo cuuuuute i want to fuck him SO hard he will land into the middle of next week
starryeyedfangirl 3 weeks ago
awwwwwww the guy with the glasses is sooooooooooo cute i want to fuck him SO FUCKING hard
starryeyedfangirl 3 weeks ago
i dont understand how did the control get badly contaminated plz HELP????
XxJ0K3RxX1000 1 month ago
@XxJ0K3RxX1000 That's just because of the amount of radiation involved and that fact that it travels in the form of dust. This kind of radiation is also able to penetrate through just about anything, that amount of radiation could penetrate through anything that isn't at least 10cm thick of lead or 10 metres of concrete. (but don't quote me on that i'm not an expert, I just find the subject very interesting and so I read and watch lots of stuff about it) :D
GNERkid 3 weeks ago
what are the names of the 2 guys at 9:17
07sandrewsworth 2 months ago
Раніше я працював у Чорнобилі, поки я не взяв стрілки до коліна.
amerizilian 2 months ago
cant we all just get along???? :'(
TheGrabasspants 2 months ago
@CheaterNLaw wrong. combustible materials in the roof of the reactor hall and graphite tipped control rods are construction errors.
bunhuelito 2 months ago
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@fl00dsm0k3 You're comparing the world's worst nuclear disaster to a college scandal?
ThatAdelaideGuy 3 months ago
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ThatAdelaideGuy 3 months ago
the big shots tring to cover up the situation here makes penn state scandall look harmless
fl00dsm0k3 4 months ago
Good post but clearly a poorly made, cliched documentary. Wooden acting by thesps with an eye on an award and a a pay cheque. It is full of holes and narrative gaps and Probably not any sort of accurate or even clear depiction of what happened.
mattvoyager 4 months ago
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mattvoyager 4 months ago
I have watched 10's of chernobyl documentaries, and they always make me afraid. This one in particular, seemed like the most realistic one.
Umbra360 4 months ago
Chernoybl then the threat with Fukushima three strikes and your out
hotbabe35411 5 months ago
@hotbabe35411 what is the world coming to.. think about this, this whole thing could happen all over again... almost just did.... imagine, i could be worse... much worse... i never wanna experience a Chernobyl 2.0 :S
mariusbalacl 4 months ago
@mariusbalacl you and me both, this kind of power is very scary, its scary too think about
hotbabe35411 4 months ago
wow.
alannamulhern 5 months ago
this should be a movie... it should be remastered into one..
b20002003 6 months ago
@b20002003 watch?v=yiCXb1Nhd1o&feature=related
damonlandsdown 6 months ago
@damonlandsdown yea... i watched it... its very intresting...
b20002003 5 months ago
@b20002003 quite scary how it could have made most of Europe un inhabitable isnt it? makes me wonder about the Japanese reactors...
damonlandsdown 5 months ago
@damonlandsdown I think we all learned from Chernobyl... japan was just another accident.
b20002003 5 months ago
How many people died to save suite wearing Ego's
mimic58 6 months ago
Can you imagine the pure panic at the realisation of what you have just caused. Then your boss calling to get an update!
eyeeyeful 7 months ago
8:39 on is super disturbing.
mraxfdisco 7 months ago
this premise is better than any horror movie i've ever seen-oh wait, it's real
saraomidvar 7 months ago
Those dudes couldn't have possibly stood there for hours. They'd be fried in like, minutes. ._.
In my opinion, accuracy here may not be...exact, but it's sure as hell interesting to watch.
thenameiskip 10 months ago 2
@thenameiskip you werent there though were you...
07sandrewsworth 2 months ago
real well made doc
peazlove247 10 months ago
i never myself said that fusion itself would be the height of technology, either, only that it would be an excellent power source if harnessed in the future. history never ends and neither will the advancement of technology. you also can't capture the tone of someone's voice in text...
ColonelKusak 10 months ago
fusion is the future. fission (like all modern power stations) is not. anyone who thinks fission is the height of all possible technology is arrogant.
ColonelKusak 10 months ago
@ColonelKusak Unlike the tone of your post of course...
jncarlos007 10 months ago
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@jncarlos007 i never myself said that fusion itself would be the height of technology, either, only that it would be an excellent power source if harnessed in the future. history never ends and neither will the advancement of technology. you also can't capture the tone of someone's voice in text...
ColonelKusak 10 months ago
i'd run like a maniac away from there
BayouBluesMan 11 months ago
Communism...do you really want your government to hide disasters like this? Because of communism, thousands of children are paying for the older generation's mistakes. Go to hell Karl Marx
HedgehogStudios1 11 months ago
@HedgehogStudios1
Actually the official report of the expected death toll and radiation readings were presented at a UN meeting but dismissed by world leaders as they thought around 40,000 deaths were too high to make publicly aware. so it wasn't just the communists that covered up the massive scale of the disaster.
srscm 11 months ago
The soviets understood the machines. However, often the workers were lead to believe that the reactors were flawless and would never melt down... That's why the workers are so casual... And the boss was just an dickhead covering for himself by saying it was under control. This is a documentary because every bit of it happened, but it is obviously a dramatisation...
DefinitelyNotLying 11 months ago
I'd rather Be Shot..Than have to Go though hell and back in 2mins on, High dose Radiation..This is Horrid!...
BarryPuppetSoetoro61 11 months ago 2
1:50 they will use this against us via the media
infantry031 11 months ago
"Radiation is within normal limits" bullshit I would say when fireworkers and personnel are dropping like flies
Tumerok22 11 months ago
Stupid communist bastards don't know a shit. Let's play with nuclear energy and push buttons to test this pile of shit we build.FFs,they didn't even know how to measure radiation,not to mention they have instruments who can measure up to 3.6 Gy/hr.
A7ibaba 11 months ago
chernobyl was like a real life horror movie. The very worst kind. Very disturbing
calleido 1 year ago
Sorry but are they saying that the pushing of that button caused all this?
C0NTR4B455 1 year ago
No, the button was supposed to insert the Graphite/Boron rods into the reactor, halting the Nuclear Fission Reaction.
But there was an accident, the rods graphite tip was the only part that was exposed to the reactor. Graphite was a moderator in this type of reactor, meaning it's used to slow down neutrons so that a Nuclear Chain Reaction is possible. Boron slows this reaction.
It made the power surge on an already unstable reactor, causing a massive explosion. No containment ther
ProxyNuker 11 months ago
Adrian Edmondson. Such a talent. Love this production it's so brutal and Ade simply shines.
Jwam3rd 1 year ago
People were smoking cause in those lines of work like working in a factory/power plant EVERYONE smokes. It's hard not to pick up the habit. Believe me I work as a welder. EVERYONE in my shift smokes. You either smoke yourself or you go on break with your buddy that smokes.
dcccapfan 1 year ago
i need a break of watching this about every two videos it is very disturbing
LanceFrancePants 1 year ago
was everyone smoking back @ that day? holy crap.
XeloX2 1 year ago
@XeloX2 its 80's smoking was cool those days
gtsgtsgt 1 year ago
Murphys Law, anything that can go wrong WILL go wrong.
soloreddragon 1 year ago
More people may have died durring Coal plants but This affects not only an Ecosystem but also many groups of people for years to come. Radiation gets into the ground, and water... So...Your water and Food supply can be affected by this.
soloreddragon 1 year ago
STOP NUCLEAR POWER!
Q8Bo3abed 1 year ago
@Q8Bo3abed You're an idiot.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions thank you and you as well
Q8Bo3abed 1 year ago
@Q8Bo3abed Anytime.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions no but seriously, what do you think of the situation in Japan, Chernobyl, and all places that had a nuclear accidents, is it worth it to use nuclear power knowing that its very harmful?
Q8Bo3abed 1 year ago
@Q8Bo3abed Its not very harmful. What you and every single person that is against nuclear power dont get is that nuclear power is safe. American Reactors and European Reactors are safe and prepared for any Natural Disaster. No one had every expected a earthquake that big in japan. Yet, the reactor right now is saving itself. Chernobyl will never happen again, as it was a design flaw which has been taken out of all Russian Plants. There is no risk.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@Q8Bo3abed Also, you do realize more people have died of Coal plants then Nuclear power facilities. If I remember correctly, more people died of Dams bursting then have died directly from Nuclear Power. Chernobyl itself only killed 50 people directly. Radiation didnt actually kill many people, although it did increase levels of Cancer.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions at least coal plants and dams have a short time span of danger, nuclear plants have a long time span of radiation lasting approximately 50,000 years, and you can't guarantee full protection from natural disasters such as a high speed tornado ripping everything in its path , or a huge hurricane flooding everywhere. Don't forget the fact that nuclear radiation is the cause of mutations, birth defects, radiation sickness, and bunch of diseases. FACT: we are vulnerable to accidents
Q8Bo3abed 1 year ago
@Q8Bo3abed They dont last 50,000 years, its nuclear waste does. And if held in tunnels underground, will never be a problem. And the containment building could easily stand up to a tornado, and I dont think there are any plants in the area where Hurricanes take place. And floods can easily be taken care of considering how well designed plants are. FACT: I never said we werent vulnerable. Im saying that nothing bad will happen if correct measures are taken.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions Another thing I wanna mention, I agree with you that nuclear power is beneficial and useful. Nuclear Medicine helped cure tumors and cancer, as well as electricity. The only problem is that its risks outweigh the benefits. No matter how you design the plant, fatal errors are inevitable. If only we can resolve and clean up chernobyl from the accident, I will agree with your argument. If we can't be responsible for our mistakes, nuclear power should be stopped
Q8Bo3abed 1 year ago
@Q8Bo3abed The thing is, we learned from all of our mistakes. The mistakes we made arent something like "oh let me remove this piece and it wont happen". We learned lessons. We understood that Safety comes before jobs and power. We learned that sometimes the machine is more powerful then the man, and that the machine itself can solve our problems. Its easy to dismiss Nuclear Power as unsafe when you use accidents that were inevitable. But its another thing to look at NPP today and realize safety
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
Ultimately, it was a design flaw in the reactor itself that was most responsible.
darkcowboyhero 1 year ago
I know little of atomic power generation..would any of this disaster be because of faulty engineering? No disrespect to anyone, but the soviets were pretty well known for "reverse engineering" i.e taking someone else's idea and copying it without really understanding it.
mrspivvy 1 year ago 15
@mrspivvy I don't thing there's a single reason alone, more a culmination of things. Foremost would be the cold-war era mentality. A culture of fear, state secrets, lack of responsibility, & people unable to be assertive & point out shortcomings, without fear of losing their job or sent to gulags etc. Reverse engineering & rushed construction was a huge thing on both sides, not just the Soviets, although they perhaps had a more gung-ho attitude towards things, particular the nuclear industry.
GREENVK 1 year ago 16
@GREENVK Yes, this came across pretty well in the film- nobody wanted to be the one to admit culpability or indeed make any kind of decision. thanks for the reply
mrspivvy 1 year ago
@GREENVK Spot on - the Japanese disaster proves that even a people renowned for their attention to detail and technological mastery were unable to prevent a large scale disaster. The Japanese reactor failed because they ASSUMED that their design would handle any major event. The pumps were designed to keep going if power was cut to the station. They thought it would work without fail if the electrical grid was disabled. They did not assume that both systems would fail. Human element = failure.
doggonemess1 10 months ago
@mrspivvy Soviets made the first nuclear power plant and were the only one to have a nuclear power plant of this type, the flaws here were primarily ones of understanding the human factor and depending too much on the technology to preform as expected.
AmurTiger 1 year ago
@mrspivvy yes, they did copy... but i think that assuming that they did not really understand it is copmletely wrong. i was born in soviet union, and the scientists there used to be very respected, extremely intelligent and with bright minds, not sure about now though...
KarynaCh 1 year ago
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inkyguy 1 year ago
Well, in one case, it wasn't so much faulty engineering as faulty (and negligent and criminal) implementation of the plan for the reactor. The roof of the reactor, which was supposed to be built with non-flammable materials and serve to contain any melt down or explosion was built with flammable materials instead. Moreover, they were in the process of conducting a test that was supposed to have been completed before the reactor was ever made operational.
inkyguy 1 year ago
@mrspivvy no
Deadity 1 year ago
@mrspivvy You're wrong there. Yes, the Soviets did copy ideas, as every nation did and still does. However, you are very mistaken if you think that they didn't understand it
06hurdwp 1 year ago
@06hurdwp I was only postulating. considering things like their auto industry, the concorde aeroplane clone etc
mrspivvy 11 months ago
@mrspivvy the Soviet RBMK reactors are a Soviet invention and don't exist anywhere else in the world. The disaster in Chernobyl was - like most disasters - an unfortunate mix of construction errors, wrong operation and risky engineering.
bunhuelito 4 months ago
@bunhuelito ok thanks for that
mrspivvy 4 months ago
@bunhuelito no, it was solely an operation error.
CheaterNLaw 2 months ago
@mrspivvy I'm reading Charles Perrow's book on Normal or System Accidents. Complex systems such as nuclear reactors extremely complex, tightly coupled(interdependent) systems. Where failures in one system can interact with failures in another in a way that could not be predicted by the designers and will be incomprehensible to the operator.
Accidents are a normal product of these systems, which is bad as nuclear accidents are catastrophic.
edcampion19 3 months ago
Watching this documentary while eating was a very, very bad idea.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 1 year ago 6
Got to love this lines:
3.6. That's Nothing.
NOTHING. YES
IT COULD BE 3.6
If it says 3.6, it is 3.6.
Itzmyrave 1 year ago
This accident was mainly caused by human error so don't go blaming the nuclear industry for it when it was a few mens fault. and the other reactors were still running into the 90's at chernobyl.
MrGrenades123 1 year ago
it kinda makes u want to through up just looking at it
tarbis1 1 year ago
CORE of reactor was emtting up to 30000R/hr. Eyelid of reactor varied from 500 to 2000R/hr. On the roof radiation was between 12-15000R/hr. First Degree Radiation poisining is 100R. Second is 200R. All the way up to 400R, full recovery is possible, after that, medical care is for comfort only.
Itzmyrave 1 year ago
4:30 Thats is not nice to feel,
GtaGekkerd 1 year ago 2
This kind of thing really freaks the hell out of me.
matrags 1 year ago
you know nuclear power isnt actually renewable? we only have 590 years left & i know it seems like a long time but for me the risks are pretty big. chernobyl taught us that, if nothing else.
louisedris 1 year ago
ok when u start weezing and throwing up.... might be a sign u need to leave XP
allampedup8803 1 year ago
@allampedup8803 Too late. the body has allready absorbed the huge radiation. The two guys who opened the watervalves know this. That's why they stayed 'cause i't would be useless to go. You're a dead man walking.......
sjeessjees 1 year ago
they wanted to save it , they hade to do it
kaz707able 1 year ago
Wow. From 3.6 to 15,000. And there he is telling it's within normal limits, and those poor workers are still there, working, as oppose to evacuating.
silvertear 1 year ago
he lied because he didnt want to get blamed and get shot or worse
kaz707able 1 year ago
WHERES MY WIIIIIFE!
JBwizzy92 1 year ago
one can't help but feel humbled by the bravory of the all the staff
stuwren91 1 year ago
Are there even any RMBK type reactors operating right now?
Necrotwilly 1 year ago
@Necrotwilly
yes, acording to wikipedia there are 11 RMBK type reactors still in operation today, modified of corse. 4 in St. petersburg, 3 in Smolensk and 4 in kiev.
RGV250100 1 year ago
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Itzmyrave 1 year ago
i was just wondering, the numbers 3.6 and 15,000 what exactly do they mean ? can someone explain please ?
BenTennison16 1 year ago
it is Roengen's per hour, a measure of ionising radiation accumulated over a period of time. The roentgen per hour is the old unit. The new SI unit is the Gray (Gy) per hour.
One R/hr = 8.73mGy/hr
A lethal dose for 50% of the population is 4.5Gy (whole body dose)
Therefore, at a level of 15,000R/Hr, you would receive a lethal dose in as little as about 3 minutes if you stood in the same spot.
GREENVK 1 year ago 36
@GREENVK you know your stuff. im not that smart. but are you able to visit chernobyl without wearing any source of protection against radiation.
ehbabbeh 1 year ago
@ehbabbeh you sure can. The majority of dangerous gamma ray emitting isotopes are short lived, and most have decayed away now. What remains are the long lived alpha and beta emitters (strontium, plutonium, americium, etc etc). There are a few longer lived gamma emitters, like Cobalt 57, Cobalt 60, Caesium 137 etc that are still around, but even they are becoming deminished. You certainly wouldn't want to go digging around in the soil and not wash afterwards, but walking around is fine.
GREENVK 1 year ago 2
@GREENVK thx for the reply. one more thing, can tourists go and visit there for a look, or is it boarded off by some sort of security or goverment.
ehbabbeh 1 year ago
@ehbabbeh it's all blocked off by security check points and barbed wire for 30km around the reactor, but you can go there as part of an organised tour group. The tour companies organise all the security passes etc
GREENVK 1 year ago
@GREENVK how long would it take for the radition or gamma rays or whatever to fully go away then?
rockstrips 1 year ago
@rockstrips most of the higher level gamma ray emitting products are gone. Longer lived gamma emitters (Cs137, Cobalt 60, Cobalt 57 are still there, but are also decaying away now. The long-lived beta and alpha emitters (Plutonium, uranium, thorium, strontium etc etc) will be in the soil for hundreds of thousands of years. So in reality, they will almost never go away.
GREENVK 1 year ago
@GREENVK
which means, it is fatal accident...
JamesKoslov14 8 months ago
@GREENVK my god... that is fucking terrifying :O :O :O
poyanator 7 months ago
@BenTennison16 According to WIki, 500 roentgens in 5 hours will kill you.
Elenboreth 1 year ago
@BenTennison16 3.6 are first measurement from control room, later they sent the guy to retake measurements from closer point to reactor an then he reported that he feels so ill ant measurements are in fact 15 000
HeyMarkedOne8 1 year ago
@HeyMarkedOne8 not quite, the station had several counters that only went up to 3.6, when it said 3.6 they claimed that was what it was. However later they sent someone out with a higher counter, this read 15 000 but they dismissed this as a faulty instrument, days later they finally pulled their finger out their asses and got everyone the hell out of there
cranachanan 1 year ago
3.6 is a very small radiation leveal but 150000 th kills you in seconds if you are unprtected
kaz707able 1 year ago
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@kaz707able it does not kill you in seconds.
blakei21 1 year ago
@BenTennison16 It's the radiation level.
91770158 1 year ago
The scariest thing is you can't see it ... when you know you get it . it is too late already.
digitalgear 1 year ago
@digitalgear
BenTennison16 1 year ago
Wow, all this misinformation made this disaster oh so far greater then it had to be.
ltflak 2 years ago
500rem means death anything higher you will drop like a fly....... I work @ a nuclear plant
KirkBrandonJoiner 2 years ago
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@KirkBrandonJoiner
"500rem means death anything higher you will drop like a fly....... I work @ a nuclear plant"
I wouldn't know, but I heard of a case of a man who had 750rem and survived. Unfortunately though, he died in November that year.
TheSpectator360 2 years ago
how much rem max were u exposed to??
hossamm3 1 year ago
Such culture goes until today regardless of the political system in place.
armycook23 2 years ago
this is really highly disturbing
mathozero 2 years ago 28
It doesn't matter what I think - it's a fact, people who have been exposed to much higher levels have survived - recovery takes years.
antimatterXXXIII 2 years ago
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Telecoms 2 years ago
There has been an increase in thyroid cancer rates in young people due to the presence of radioactive iodine that is incorporated directly into the thyroid gland by normal biological processes. However the statistics on this are sketchy, because of the vast dislocations caused to the entire population of the area. Other cancer rates are at background level they had before the accident (high anyway because of bad pollution behind the Iron Curtain). The affected children respond well to treatment.
antimatterXXXIII 2 years ago
This is also false - some transient mutations are SOMETIMES seen in first generation offspring - at Chernobyl the only manifestation of this was occasional albinism in swallows who were nesting in the very sarcophagus around the failed reactor. Otherwise the wildlife is perfectly normal, and thriving.
Very little is known about the long-term effects of moderate radiation exposure at levels now considered dangerous, to be on the safe side. Chernobyl provides very encouraging data on this.
antimatterXXXIII 2 years ago
Read the UN Report on the aftereffects, not some scandal sheet like the "UFO Autopsy". Read a book. Read Wikipedia. I don't care.
antimatterXXXIII 2 years ago
Your DNA and RNA are not "systematically destroyed" - this is just bunk. The most affected cells are those in the intestinal lining and bone marrow - death occurs usually from dehydration brought on by diarrhea or infection, due to the absence of white blood cells resulting from loss of bone marrow. Since bone marrow takes a long time to be re-established, in the most severe cases only a bone marrow transplant can save the victim. I am not asking you to believe anything - these are facts.
antimatterXXXIII 2 years ago
This is nothing but anti-nuke hysteria - if you swallow extremely radioactive substances with a long half-life like polonium or plutonium then yes, mutations leading to cancer can occur IN A TINY AREA directly around the matter. Alpha radiation itself is stopped by a layer of summer clothes, or your skin. Beta and gamma radiation is penetrating but the damage to the organism is from destruction at the cellular, not genetic, level; stated simply cells are directly killed as with any other poison.
antimatterXXXIII 2 years ago
Not arguing with a fool.
antimatterXXXIII 2 years ago
Your DNA is not "grossly transformed" - this is a bald-faced LIE - your cells are killed by the ionizing radiation, particularly those in the intestinal lining - death usually occurs because of dehydration and infection of the destroyed tissue. You do NOT become some sci-fi mutant!!
antimatterXXXIII 2 years ago
@antimatterXXXIII Yes it does "grossly transform" the DNA, silly! That's part of the cell-killing mechanism! And you don't turn into some "sci-fi mutant" when the DNA is damaged, you get real sick and die from it!
mike4ty4 2 years ago 4
This is the most OUTRAGEOUS bullshit ever propagated!! Even lethal dose of radiation - I mean ENORMOUS amounts, 1000 Grays, do not have instant effects - the very worst cases from direct exposure to a near-critical reaction have caused illness within several hours. Even a normally fatal dose will not cause instant symptoms, not to mention skin discoloration. This is nothing but nuke-hysteria propaganda!!
antimatterXXXIII 2 years ago
this accident was caused by irresponsible , wreckless greed (I mean no disrespect to russia / ukraine today) human life should be considered priorty over tech , the chernobyl owners ignored this , the reactor was not safe in the first place it was a sleeping bomb.
Timsalt3100 2 years ago
it is the begining of nuclear warfare if im not wrong
alienfreaklol 2 years ago
"It's three point six"
"Three point six, that's nothing!"
"But they only go up to three point six..."
...
"IT IS three point six!!!"
anss321 2 years ago
@gaminghell it amuses me how more people put 'thumbs up' agreeing with us =D
Helenifyful 2 years ago
I knew that the explosion was horrible, and that people got infected... but, omg I didn't FULLY realize how absolutely terrible it was... people just drop ill. All those poor people :(
SazzleT400 2 years ago 10
Kstomac did say ALMOST impossible
mswinman 2 years ago
You can live in ignorence and not understand why nuclear accidents happen or you can discover and perhaps agree with us. There is almost nothing wrong with CURRENT nuclear energy
Helenifyful 2 years ago 38
cept the waste and poor maitinance and opportunity for human error
beliartheusurper 2 years ago
@Helenifyful or you think there's nothing wrong. but what if right now that same information is classified like back then? how would you prevent a disaster the same or worst than this? you don't even know! because no one told you. as far as you been told everything is just fine with the CURRENT nuclear energy.
ICANanimations 1 year ago
@Helenifyful I beg to differ. Yes, there are significant improvements to nuclear reactor technology that makes it much more safer to use, and there's even aircraft carriers in America that are powered by nuclear technology as far as I know. But the risks are always there. No doubt about it. I mean, how do you dispose Depleted Uranium when it's still radioactive? It's expensive, and it probably could get out of control.
smgx92 1 year ago
@smgx92
Cold fusion is the way forwards. Generates even more energy, produces no radioactive wate, only produces water. Problem is, its even more expensive and in order to work at all needs to be on a massive scale. They're currently planning to build a 3-mile station underground in France that could potentially power half of europe. Sadly, no one'll really be willing to fund it, but you're right, Nuclear power while having definite,undeniable risks, has many benefits.
StBoffers 1 year ago
light a cig...light a cig...
tinytoes409 2 years ago 3
man id be freakin' if i was in that control room id fukin bolt
LordEthan2 2 years ago 4
Dam how could we be so foolish?
SlahyX 2 years ago 2
Dumbass russians: Hey guys! Lets let thousands of people die to cover our failure! Why does this always happen?
FireRed808 2 years ago
brave men died in droves to stop that mess from getting worse. the firemen, the soldiers, they didn't cause the accident. show some respect!
Matroxxtriste 2 years ago 59
I know that! I'm just stating a fact is all.
FireRed808 2 years ago 6
@Matroxxtriste they also didnt know about the radiation. if they knew exposure would kill them, we would prob have a crisis on our hands.
ehbabbeh 1 year ago
but how did they get their faces like that?
pilotoatomico 2 years ago
cell decay. The radiation attacks the cells and kills them with scary speed.
FireRed808 2 years ago
I work at a nuclear plant and in part 1, they are running down a corridor to check on the reactor, and we have a similar corridor where i work, and now everytime im walking through it, I'm freaked out that the lights will flash red... But ofcourse, the company says our reactors are, whats that word they used... "Flawless" :/
araphon1 2 years ago 5
What does it actually mean when the red lights flash?
limatedman 2 years ago
im guessing it is indicating an emergency and an evacuation is needed
itsmikee1994 2 years ago
I really don't think the the explostion WAS an accsadent
Kordazona 2 years ago
I think there might be a conspiracy
starpopcorn2 2 years ago
I think you might be a dumbass.
xraycats 2 years ago
I was talking about a guy who has to walk past a nuclear reactor everyday and is scared that an alarm might go off and their might be a meltdown.
What exactly did you think I meant by my previous comment?
starpopcorn2 2 years ago
I wasn't responding to your comment. I'll blame youtube for the mix up. Damn youtube...
xraycats 2 years ago
lol
starpopcorn2 2 years ago
wow, must be scary walking past them! :O
starpopcorn2 2 years ago
lol.. Flawless is a nightmare word to even listern.
texas224 2 years ago
you got balls to work at a nuclear reactor
pilotoatomico 2 years ago
i would be afraid to work such a place. maybe you should find something elese? /:
ElleFreakydelle 2 years ago
you`re afraid because of what happened in Chernobyl and I understand your fear.
I was feeling the same way until recently.
my friend`s dad works at a nuclear plant (not as big as Chernobyl`s but still) and from what I heard and understood when I visited that plant, the chance of something similar to happen is really, really small, I would say almost impossible
kstomac 2 years ago