kade se naogate bre kolku ste glupi neste nitu eden milion a sonuvate miljarda sonovi ma begajte nikoj neve sisa vo planetava nitu znae kade ste is to ste kradete grcka historija ahhahahhahahah kolku ste smesni
Alexander addressing the dead Thebans and Athenians after the battle of Chaeronia:
" Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER nations and BROTHER people, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since WE ARE united by the SAME language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
The Macedonians didn't destroy the ancient Greeks. The Macedonians are one of the ancient Greek kingdoms. Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Thebes, Epirus, Macedonia. All of them together were the worldwide known as ancient Greeks.
Alexander addressing the dead Thebans and Athenians after the battle of Chaeronia:
" Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER nations and BROTHER people, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since WE ARE united by the SAME language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
Redrougegirl you are a midle aged former yugoslav madam that needs to get a real job , spamming the net against Greece for 20 cent commision per post with victims like this poor unemployed charlatan Slavjanski is not one , , try collecting roadkill in skopje instead for 30 cent a piece , its cleaner than what you do now and it will give you an idea of the bright future you persue by claiming Greek History and territory .
Your moronic conclusions couldnt be further than the truth Macedonians fought against other Greeks to unify Greece the one city state that strongly oppossed the Greek unity was Thebes a gefuraioi jewish stronghold together with the (midisantes midia persia)Greek traitors were eliminated by the Macedonians who were as they themselves stated Dorians Greek tribe not slavs not bulgars not albanians live with it Skopians eat your bananas trying to change history
@vinetu73 IF THIS WAS TRUE WHY WOULD THE BROTHER CYRRIL AND METHODIUS(GREEK) HAVE TO CREATE A LANGUAGE FOR THE FILTHY SLAVIC PEOPLE IN 600 A.D.......DUH! YOU THINK TO HIGHLY OF YOURSELF......YOU CANT BE PART OF THIS HISTORY YOU WERE NOT EVEN IN THE BALKANS THEN YOU DUMB SLAV!!! ONE GOOD FUCKING REASON YOU HAVE A BULGARIAN NAME AND SPEAK BULGARIAN YOU SCUMBAG!!!
Athenians had civil wars with Spartans,Spartans with Messinians etc. All of them were Hellenes (Greeks). All of them had same Gods & Heroes, same mother language, culture & customs, Hellenic names & Architecture etc. The Cities-States were fighting among them for power. Another civil war took part in Chaeronea. Macedons won.
When Alexander reached Babylon he sent 300 Golden shields to Athens to honour the 300 Spartans & were kept in the Parthenon.
alexander the great is macedonian and albanian fukin greeks have the gay pride and thats preciselly why greeks use propaganda becuz they want the glory of everything but have nohen but small cocks whose women run for albanian guys all the time so now they jealous like serbs also
i have noticed you answer whatever you want and some matters can't touch you ,i find that natural because you have no answers!i pity you! you came in balkans in 680 ad when greeks already had made 2 great empires with top of civilised life in every time and you try to tell us about what????we are here before your coming and you bordo are not even a proper slav but just a sad man with different origin and claims!you oppose youself with fascist methods against your race....
i think you are just an enemy of greece and keen admirer of gebels politics!you do not give to others the oportunity to decide....
my grandma is of arvanitic origin,some friends of mine and also i have a friend of vlah origin,let them no better grekoman and others are just too stupid...your promblem of not having national identity vardarska people is not ours we know....
also if you like see this video is from slavophone people most are old. "Slavophone Greeks speak about themselves".what is your opinion?do they answer to you properly?
example: part of the Albanians have Albanian identity, and part of them (the Arvanites from Attika) were Albananians, but Grekomans. So, you see you have a great amount of Albanian blood in you my ellinaki friend. There is also Ouranio Tokso - they are not Greeks
as for the vlahs i totaly agree with you their union of vlahs of greece albania and fyrom accept greek identity they consider themselves as greeks who have only a different dialect,not language in a complete form,ok?
The Vlachs are not Greeks. Our Vlachs - The Vlahs living in the Republic of Macedonia express freely their SEPARATE VLACH IDENTITY. They learn Vlach as their mother language in primary schools, and have their own organizations. They have NO CONTACTS with the Vlachs from greece.
if you find indigenous people only the slavophones then your are totaly out of your mind if they are slavic they came in 680 ad if they are slavised macedonians now have lost their true ethnic consiousness and act anthellenic indigenous are only macedonians greeks who survived from ancient times until now with clean ethnic consiousness! i hope you understanded something!
what is your problem?macedonian people and language is a greek branch until today and are more greeks from every other greek in their consciousness, did you met any at all?
When I go to Greece I meet indogenous population only in Florina region. All others are newcomers from Turkey. Well exept the vlachs and those from Halkidiki.
yes we also know that by char samuil and by the 2nd bulgarian kingdom this action happened,until 1913 the bulgars dreamt their exodus to agean but they failed even though they managed to slavisate many indigenous macedonian and thracian since 1205 mainly and during the last days of ottoman empire,what's your point?if you feel macedonian then learn to speak and act like macedonians-greeks,it is simple abandon your slavic attitude and return to your roots,
also do you know the existence of ottoman empire? do you know about islamisation by force?do you know about the picking of children from greeks by force in order to serve in ottoman army? do you know which empire was in asia minor and balkans before ottoman coming?
did you ever wonder if 1% you are wrong in what you are claiming? to be against your race is 2wice a crime!
Yes we are very familiar with taking children for the Gianitsaro dividions. We are also familiar with forsed islamization. What about force Slavisation of the indogenous population in Macedonia?
ok let's go that way turkophone greeks feel greek so they are greeks,are you slavophone greeks who feel true inhabitants of macedonia region?if you feel that way thing i believe is true in a percentage then stop claiming lands unite with greece mother and find you roots again!there are no macedonian modern or ancient since macedonian is ans was only a greek dialect not a language,can you understand the difference?are you a teacher for sure?
also you speak slavic,you are slav orthodox your names are slavic you are slavs and mainly bulgars!
it isn't hard to imagine even for uneducated people absolutely no connection with macedonians! imagine the turks after 2 years to claim that they are trojans.... ridicilous!your only motive for saying vardarska macedonia is because you hate greeks,also that is your problem
Yes we speak Slavic language, The modern Macedonian is a slavic language. Your brothers the turkophone "Greeks" brought to Greece in 1925 from Anatolia spoke Turkish, but that does not make them Turks does it?
you are wrong we don't care who wants to be what ,your problem ethnic greeks include macedonians from ancient times you are wannabes...maybe tomorow you would like to be something else,we don't care the whole world knows you are a little puppet state of us which is in danger of collapse!
well it is stupid to say these are greeks these are something else now, then before 2000 years they considered themselves as hellens and this is the only proof for everything!
it wasn't greek army was the army of thebes and athens and macedonians also defeated thracians and illyrians so fucking what we were all greeks we were doing whatever we wanted my forefather didn't know that some slanvics would like to claim them,i would like to be tongan but i can't haha!
if you are confused then you have to study more,my personal opimion is that you do not want to understand because your interests in these matters are different from truth!you are with the promblem and greek cities or macedonians or other kingdoms in ancient world have no connection with you for sure!
The greeks desided to use the term "Macedonian" as a local identificator, and we as an ethnical. So you can not be both. You can be either, ethnic Macedonian, either Greek that lives in a part of the geographical area called Macedonia.
The video was good just good althought. Ei bordaux why is it so importand to recall this fact? The Macedonians were Greeks proved by the ancients read the books of Arianos for the Great Alexander and you'll see. So in this civil war the winners were the Macedonians ok!
Man u'r logic sucks!! As u can see in the second part the Macedonian army was fighting against the Greek army,and in the first part of this documentary it says that GREECE(whole Greece) was in danger from north,from the Macedonian Kingdom led by Phillip Macedon,as a different kingdom from Greece!
Bollocks.
Macedonians were, are and always will be Hellenic.
Fyromians were, are and always be the slaves of other nations.
shockolanu 5 months ago
kade se naogate bre kolku ste glupi neste nitu eden milion a sonuvate miljarda sonovi ma begajte nikoj neve sisa vo planetava nitu znae kade ste is to ste kradete grcka historija ahhahahhahahah kolku ste smesni
forca grcka
kuesnacht5 8 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
There is an inscripted stone in the entrance of government building in Skopje for the pride of ancient Macedonians:
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΡΧΩΝ ΤΩΝ ΝΑΩΝ ΤΗ ΠΑΤΡΙΔΙ ΣΥΝ ΠΑΝΤΙ ΤΩ ΚΟΣΜΩ ΤΩ ΘΚΤ' ΕΤΕΙ
I m sure that it will be easy for Skopians to translate the language of their suposed ancestors lolski
hoplitespao 1 year ago
Coenus was a badass.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
Alexander addressing the dead Thebans and Athenians after the battle of Chaeronia:
" Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER nations and BROTHER people, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since WE ARE united by the SAME language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
(Curtius Rufus)
hoplitespao 1 year ago
The Macedonians didn't destroy the ancient Greeks. The Macedonians are one of the ancient Greek kingdoms. Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Thebes, Epirus, Macedonia. All of them together were the worldwide known as ancient Greeks.
JamesGREEK26 2 years ago 2
just look the ancient macedonians coins it's in greek.............
hoplitespao 2 years ago 2
yes because macedonia was greece .
mihumake 1 year ago
Alexander addressing the dead Thebans and Athenians after the battle of Chaeronia:
" Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER nations and BROTHER people, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since WE ARE united by the SAME language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
(Curtius Rufus)
hoplitespao 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The following alone is enough to prove that Macedonia was Greek.
1) In the ancient Olympic Games ONLY GREEKS were ALLOWED to participate
2) Ancient Greeks were "racists"
3) Macedonians partcipated in the ancient Olympic Games. Phillip, father of Alexander had won
So there is no doubt. Ancient Greeks believed that Macedonians were Greeks, so did Macedonians.
Greeks would never allow someone to participate in the Olympic games even if one of his great grandfathers was Persian
ANAMNEN20AR 2 years ago
Redrougegirl you are a midle aged former yugoslav madam that needs to get a real job , spamming the net against Greece for 20 cent commision per post with victims like this poor unemployed charlatan Slavjanski is not one , , try collecting roadkill in skopje instead for 30 cent a piece , its cleaner than what you do now and it will give you an idea of the bright future you persue by claiming Greek History and territory .
noaudito 3 years ago
I leave the conclutions to U!!
watch?v=D1j4U79eBMo
metzelf 3 years ago
Macedonians have engineers. Greeks are fighting only in the field, because they are peasants.
vinetu73 3 years ago
Your moronic conclusions couldnt be further than the truth Macedonians fought against other Greeks to unify Greece the one city state that strongly oppossed the Greek unity was Thebes a gefuraioi jewish stronghold together with the (midisantes midia persia)Greek traitors were eliminated by the Macedonians who were as they themselves stated Dorians Greek tribe not slavs not bulgars not albanians live with it Skopians eat your bananas trying to change history
georgeosgr 2 years ago 2
@vinetu73 IF THIS WAS TRUE WHY WOULD THE BROTHER CYRRIL AND METHODIUS(GREEK) HAVE TO CREATE A LANGUAGE FOR THE FILTHY SLAVIC PEOPLE IN 600 A.D.......DUH! YOU THINK TO HIGHLY OF YOURSELF......YOU CANT BE PART OF THIS HISTORY YOU WERE NOT EVEN IN THE BALKANS THEN YOU DUMB SLAV!!! ONE GOOD FUCKING REASON YOU HAVE A BULGARIAN NAME AND SPEAK BULGARIAN YOU SCUMBAG!!!
bobeee1969 1 year ago
@bobeee1969 haha Cyrril and Methodius hahha Gayreeeek?/???? hahaha never
What the fuck do they teach you in school
nitroflesh 1 year ago
@nitroflesh Just look at their names... They're definately Greek names lmao.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
Athenians had civil wars with Spartans,Spartans with Messinians etc. All of them were Hellenes (Greeks). All of them had same Gods & Heroes, same mother language, culture & customs, Hellenic names & Architecture etc. The Cities-States were fighting among them for power. Another civil war took part in Chaeronea. Macedons won.
When Alexander reached Babylon he sent 300 Golden shields to Athens to honour the 300 Spartans & were kept in the Parthenon.
FYROMIAN Conclusions: Alexander was Slav!
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
alexander the great is macedonian and albanian fukin greeks have the gay pride and thats preciselly why greeks use propaganda becuz they want the glory of everything but have nohen but small cocks whose women run for albanian guys all the time so now they jealous like serbs also
ironandlead21 4 years ago
i have noticed you answer whatever you want and some matters can't touch you ,i find that natural because you have no answers!i pity you! you came in balkans in 680 ad when greeks already had made 2 great empires with top of civilised life in every time and you try to tell us about what????we are here before your coming and you bordo are not even a proper slav but just a sad man with different origin and claims!you oppose youself with fascist methods against your race....
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
It is not true, I give answers to all that pose the question in a proper civilised manner. Ok, ask me something, and I will answer you.
bordaux 4 years ago
i think you are just an enemy of greece and keen admirer of gebels politics!you do not give to others the oportunity to decide....
my grandma is of arvanitic origin,some friends of mine and also i have a friend of vlah origin,let them no better grekoman and others are just too stupid...your promblem of not having national identity vardarska people is not ours we know....
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
also if you like see this video is from slavophone people most are old. "Slavophone Greeks speak about themselves".what is your opinion?do they answer to you properly?
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
Everywhere there are exeptions.
example: part of the Albanians have Albanian identity, and part of them (the Arvanites from Attika) were Albananians, but Grekomans. So, you see you have a great amount of Albanian blood in you my ellinaki friend. There is also Ouranio Tokso - they are not Greeks
bordaux 4 years ago
as for the vlahs i totaly agree with you their union of vlahs of greece albania and fyrom accept greek identity they consider themselves as greeks who have only a different dialect,not language in a complete form,ok?
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
NO!
The Vlachs are not Greeks. Our Vlachs - The Vlahs living in the Republic of Macedonia express freely their SEPARATE VLACH IDENTITY. They learn Vlach as their mother language in primary schools, and have their own organizations. They have NO CONTACTS with the Vlachs from greece.
bordaux 4 years ago
if you find indigenous people only the slavophones then your are totaly out of your mind if they are slavic they came in 680 ad if they are slavised macedonians now have lost their true ethnic consiousness and act anthellenic indigenous are only macedonians greeks who survived from ancient times until now with clean ethnic consiousness! i hope you understanded something!
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
what is your problem?macedonian people and language is a greek branch until today and are more greeks from every other greek in their consciousness, did you met any at all?
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
When I go to Greece I meet indogenous population only in Florina region. All others are newcomers from Turkey. Well exept the vlachs and those from Halkidiki.
bordaux 4 years ago
yes we also know that by char samuil and by the 2nd bulgarian kingdom this action happened,until 1913 the bulgars dreamt their exodus to agean but they failed even though they managed to slavisate many indigenous macedonian and thracian since 1205 mainly and during the last days of ottoman empire,what's your point?if you feel macedonian then learn to speak and act like macedonians-greeks,it is simple abandon your slavic attitude and return to your roots,
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
also do you know the existence of ottoman empire? do you know about islamisation by force?do you know about the picking of children from greeks by force in order to serve in ottoman army? do you know which empire was in asia minor and balkans before ottoman coming?
did you ever wonder if 1% you are wrong in what you are claiming? to be against your race is 2wice a crime!
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
Yes we are very familiar with taking children for the Gianitsaro dividions. We are also familiar with forsed islamization. What about force Slavisation of the indogenous population in Macedonia?
bordaux 4 years ago
ok let's go that way turkophone greeks feel greek so they are greeks,are you slavophone greeks who feel true inhabitants of macedonia region?if you feel that way thing i believe is true in a percentage then stop claiming lands unite with greece mother and find you roots again!there are no macedonian modern or ancient since macedonian is ans was only a greek dialect not a language,can you understand the difference?are you a teacher for sure?
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
also you speak slavic,you are slav orthodox your names are slavic you are slavs and mainly bulgars!
it isn't hard to imagine even for uneducated people absolutely no connection with macedonians! imagine the turks after 2 years to claim that they are trojans.... ridicilous!your only motive for saying vardarska macedonia is because you hate greeks,also that is your problem
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
Yes we speak Slavic language, The modern Macedonian is a slavic language. Your brothers the turkophone "Greeks" brought to Greece in 1925 from Anatolia spoke Turkish, but that does not make them Turks does it?
bordaux 4 years ago
you are wrong we don't care who wants to be what ,your problem ethnic greeks include macedonians from ancient times you are wannabes...maybe tomorow you would like to be something else,we don't care the whole world knows you are a little puppet state of us which is in danger of collapse!
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
well it is stupid to say these are greeks these are something else now, then before 2000 years they considered themselves as hellens and this is the only proof for everything!
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
it wasn't greek army was the army of thebes and athens and macedonians also defeated thracians and illyrians so fucking what we were all greeks we were doing whatever we wanted my forefather didn't know that some slanvics would like to claim them,i would like to be tongan but i can't haha!
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
The video said Macedonian army against Greek army.
If Macedonians were Greeks it would have been Greek army against Greek army.
O my God, I'm so confused by your comment ;)
bordaux 4 years ago
if you are confused then you have to study more,my personal opimion is that you do not want to understand because your interests in these matters are different from truth!you are with the promblem and greek cities or macedonians or other kingdoms in ancient world have no connection with you for sure!
Laistrigonas 4 years ago
The greeks desided to use the term "Macedonian" as a local identificator, and we as an ethnical. So you can not be both. You can be either, ethnic Macedonian, either Greek that lives in a part of the geographical area called Macedonia.
bordaux 4 years ago
This documentary is shit and doesnt talk about the most important parts
ignacio90 4 years ago
Why does my logic sucks and yours not? I am talking with facts where are yours? So when you have evidences speak again! not before!
Phisicsolutor 4 years ago
The video was good just good althought. Ei bordaux why is it so importand to recall this fact? The Macedonians were Greeks proved by the ancients read the books of Arianos for the Great Alexander and you'll see. So in this civil war the winners were the Macedonians ok!
Phisicsolutor 4 years ago
Man u'r logic sucks!! As u can see in the second part the Macedonian army was fighting against the Greek army,and in the first part of this documentary it says that GREECE(whole Greece) was in danger from north,from the Macedonian Kingdom led by Phillip Macedon,as a different kingdom from Greece!
riidi 4 years ago
As a historian I can say that, the documentary was poor and with many historical mistakes, just like half of the Ancient Warriors series.
Spartan307 5 years ago
That is your point of view and I appreciate it.. but you can't deny the fact that Macedonians were struggling against the Greek army.. And won
bordaux 5 years ago
Greeks fought against Greeks
and defended and spread Hellenism
Theon70 4 years ago