I notice $ci uses labeling to alter minds. Labels have the power to transform one's perceptions. Instead of labeling someone as "somebody who doesn't believe in $ci" $ci labels them as "suppressive person." The reactions and beliefs people might have about one label would be different than the way they'd react and believe about the other label. This isn't just used in $ci. It's used all the time in commercials, politics, etc. L.Ron knew how to use it too. Not with just words, symbols too.
Words are symbols though. Anyway, like $ci labeling the brain as a "shock absorber." What the hell is that about? I guess it's a way for $ci followers to view their brains as less important and less significant?
I studied hypnosis and NLP myself and I have a few questions on your explanation if you don't mind, I don't mean to poke any holes I'm aware that those visualisation techniques are NLP.
Normally people wake up out of trances themselves, I've never heard of anyone remaining in trance before.
I never heard of that feeling of euphoria that comes from said technique, how does that work?
And why would triggers work on totally ignorant Preclears at their first auditing?
The reason members of CoS don't come out of induction is that they are immersed constantly in the "tech", sometimes 24/7. If a member doesn't show up for a day or so they are hounded and sometimes downright harassed to come back in for more training. Hubbard knew that people would wake up if not constantly exposed. The euphoria comes from Hubbard's technique of folding one's attention inward to create false memories of revelatory nature. Preclears undergo hours of training before any auditing.
@4G3NTanon You explained "events" thru a NLP theory. But hae many inadecuancies.
FIRST: The "inner" (subjective) sensation of relief, freedom and joy and new perception about things in the pre-clear COMES BEFORE the "outer" (objective) reaction of the 'Floating Needle'. So when it is stable, then the auditor voices it.
SECOND: Auditing works without ANY indoctrination on processes wich uses common words.
The unfortunate thing about this is that the "auditing" process is an extremely warped version of techniques used to deal with trauma...actual trauma that happened in this life, on this planet, in this Reality.
Those who go through this process feel an amazing sense of empowerment, and a release of negative emotions....Unfortunately it's all connected to The Tech and all that BS. Sadly, it's how this got so big.
This makes me want to start a religion. Seriously, we can act morally outraged all day, but all we're really mad about is that none of us thought of it.
Very good pair of videos. One thing I noticed you didn't touch on is the way the Preclear is basically conditioned not to move while holding onto the cans. Admittedly that might fall outside the scope of your talk (since that's more obviously apparent in the TR 0 drills) but that strikes me as being a pretty important part of the hypnosis as well.
Never been to the CC, I don't make it "into to town"
from the Sub-Underground Bunker very often. Looking back, I should have started speaking out years ago. I was inspired by Desertphile and his brother to join YouTube, and, of course, Anonymous. :)
Not a bad presentation, however I think it would have been better if you referenced burn-offs, as well as the handing of keyed phrases which lead to them.
Boil off? Hmm my memory of the term from Science of Survival was wrong? COOL! I may be finally getting that drivel out of my head once and for all! heheh.
You are such an inspiration! I hope to be as good of a man as you one day : )
MyFace43 1 year ago
I notice $ci uses labeling to alter minds. Labels have the power to transform one's perceptions. Instead of labeling someone as "somebody who doesn't believe in $ci" $ci labels them as "suppressive person." The reactions and beliefs people might have about one label would be different than the way they'd react and believe about the other label. This isn't just used in $ci. It's used all the time in commercials, politics, etc. L.Ron knew how to use it too. Not with just words, symbols too.
LedWilde 1 year ago
Words are symbols though. Anyway, like $ci labeling the brain as a "shock absorber." What the hell is that about? I guess it's a way for $ci followers to view their brains as less important and less significant?
LedWilde 1 year ago
I studied hypnosis and NLP myself and I have a few questions on your explanation if you don't mind, I don't mean to poke any holes I'm aware that those visualisation techniques are NLP.
Normally people wake up out of trances themselves, I've never heard of anyone remaining in trance before.
I never heard of that feeling of euphoria that comes from said technique, how does that work?
And why would triggers work on totally ignorant Preclears at their first auditing?
ComedyIsFunny 1 year ago
The reason members of CoS don't come out of induction is that they are immersed constantly in the "tech", sometimes 24/7. If a member doesn't show up for a day or so they are hounded and sometimes downright harassed to come back in for more training. Hubbard knew that people would wake up if not constantly exposed. The euphoria comes from Hubbard's technique of folding one's attention inward to create false memories of revelatory nature. Preclears undergo hours of training before any auditing.
4G3NTanon 1 year ago
@4G3NTanon You explained "events" thru a NLP theory. But hae many inadecuancies.
FIRST: The "inner" (subjective) sensation of relief, freedom and joy and new perception about things in the pre-clear COMES BEFORE the "outer" (objective) reaction of the 'Floating Needle'. So when it is stable, then the auditor voices it.
SECOND: Auditing works without ANY indoctrination on processes wich uses common words.
This says YOU HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED the real deal.
You anonymous lamb.
cesar981 3 months ago
The unfortunate thing about this is that the "auditing" process is an extremely warped version of techniques used to deal with trauma...actual trauma that happened in this life, on this planet, in this Reality.
Those who go through this process feel an amazing sense of empowerment, and a release of negative emotions....Unfortunately it's all connected to The Tech and all that BS. Sadly, it's how this got so big.
thasexeone 1 year ago
This may explain the behaviour of public. What about Sea Org staff that hardly ever get any auditing?
ndroock1 1 year ago
This makes me want to start a religion. Seriously, we can act morally outraged all day, but all we're really mad about is that none of us thought of it.
uberjim83 2 years ago
ROFL... at 7:20... hillarious !
AnonymousOverseer 2 years ago
religion is stupid in general...scientology is no different....if you want to make money make a religion, most businesses are like a religion
jonthetreeplanter 2 years ago
=._.= then they put their what what what on their what what what?=Q_Q=...
What kind of stuff are they talking about!?
=._.= oh yah they DO always make that laugh!
POKOHelba 2 years ago
whos the author of this?
jfunf 2 years ago
Hello friend! We meet again! He why are you wondering who the author is? You don't plan to stalk and harass him, do you?
drewd1987 2 years ago
I guess he is afraid of that too - judging by the hideous type of lecture - like some voice behind frame tells lies. And do you plan to harass me?
jfunf 2 years ago
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drewd1987 2 years ago
can't.......anyone change wiki?
POKOHelba 2 years ago
wiki banned $ci..
drewd1987 2 years ago
Very good pair of videos. One thing I noticed you didn't touch on is the way the Preclear is basically conditioned not to move while holding onto the cans. Admittedly that might fall outside the scope of your talk (since that's more obviously apparent in the TR 0 drills) but that strikes me as being a pretty important part of the hypnosis as well.
slacknhash 2 years ago
Yeah, the TRs are the beginning of the first level
of induction. All lot of other vids have covered that subject well. Thanks for the comment. :)
4G3NTanon 2 years ago
i'm not sure, but I think i met you in KC back in 2006 when Lydia, Amber and I picketed there. Have you been to Celebrity Center?
machwon 2 years ago
Never been to the CC, I don't make it "into to town"
from the Sub-Underground Bunker very often. Looking back, I should have started speaking out years ago. I was inspired by Desertphile and his brother to join YouTube, and, of course, Anonymous. :)
4G3NTanon 2 years ago
thanks, I think you gave a great presentation, helpful!
MARYBLEUZ 2 years ago
Not a bad presentation, however I think it would have been better if you referenced burn-offs, as well as the handing of keyed phrases which lead to them.
13Heathens 2 years ago
Yeah, I just wanted to hit the main points, "boil-offs" weren't really used in R3RA anyway.
The main thing is that the PC is hammered at
repeatedly to come up with details of these
conjured up false memories. Also, I suck at reading scripts. :)
4G3NTanon 2 years ago
Boil off? Hmm my memory of the term from Science of Survival was wrong? COOL! I may be finally getting that drivel out of my head once and for all! heheh.
13Heathens 2 years ago
Hail Xenu!
soulinite 2 years ago
Great video, it says it all. Thanks man!
jn10101 2 years ago
this is really one of the best videos that i ever saw to educate yourself about the auditing sessions.
thanks for this!
chosenbelow88 2 years ago 2
Your'e very welcome!
4G3NTanon 2 years ago
The euphoria is akin to banging your finger with a hammer for a few hours. When you stop it feels great!
anon8109 2 years ago 2