wow, this doesnt look at all like CLC bak mei as i know it... I'm not an expert by any means, but it looks as if the fundamental principles aren't the same... I'd love to see this at full speed...
dabarber2000 is one ingorant motherfucker isn't he...WOW...anywho, this video is the bak mei form...however...it is done LONG and SOFT even tho bak mei IS A SOUTHERN system...and as far as who's kung fu is taught by where and who? whoever you learn the art from is who you learned it...not from their master because interpretation of the style differs...like a huge phone game...please don't be a retard.......
Yes, Kung Fu comes from China, this is very true. But this wouldn't mean that the Chinese are better at it. It could be explained by pointing at the difference in lifestyle. Here in the West people often look at martial arts as something to do, 2 - 3 times a week and not as a way of life. But the few people who do devote their life to the arts can become as great as their Chinese counterparts.
Greetings from Belgium,
Ben
-A great teacher wants his students to become better than himself-
Read your history son. because you actually or your master actually learn it from a asain master. This shit is trace back to the shoalin temple in China. so you really actually learn it from a asain dude. If you was really good then you would be humble and respectful to others. Hiding behind the computer and talking shit about master that you don't know nothing about is easy. And who's afraid of anyone these day. You ever heard of a gun?
I knew you wasn't asain, because if you was, you would not be talking shit. What i was trying to tell you in the first place is that it's not the style that is weak but the person, so you say a lot of asain guys are afraid of your Gong fu. Excuse! but where did you learn it from? and what style you talking about?
That is crap - I'm not Asian and yet I know a lotta Asians who fear my Gong Fu as hell. Anyone can learn and excell at Gong Fu and anything in this life. All u need is a good school, support and determination to learn. There's no super Gens out there when it comes to learning.
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Fuck it! being asain has it's advantage over non asain who try to learn this art! It's in our blood. We develop it. Get mad if you want to. It's fact! you learn it from us. admit it. hahahah
Dabarber2000 you are acting and sounding like a moronic idiot. Should Yo-yo ma bow down to Westerners because "We" invented Cello and perfected the art of playing it so "it is in our blood". I know westerners that are more Asian in their knowledge and philosophies AND their kung fu than millions of Chinese. Get a clue. People are mostly whatever they learn or are exposed to. Period. Sure there is a little genetic encoding but it is subtle, very subtle. Thank you though for kung fu!
I thought martial arts came from monks (i know their religion is Indian) who developed a way to defend themselves from bandit raids by watching forest animals, and refining technique for thousands of years.
Talk is cheap and easy! theres too many people who like to say this and say that, but really we non chinese will never know the actual truth behind the story telling and myth because first we don't speak the lanugage second that stuff is so old hard to trace back. But if you see the art and it looks good and it works why not take it. Like Bruce lee said take what's good and disgard whats not..It doens't mater where it came from, if it's gonna help you in a fight then why not benifit from it.
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what a load of cock n' bull. DNA (as in chinese or not) makes no difference to the "understanding". Fact is, some people get it, some don't. Bruce Lee was at stage 2 of development... 3 stages: 1) love the work; 2) hate the work: 3) accept the work and just be... even governments work in the same guidelines in the develoment of countries.
That was my brother in-law who said that. It's under my name because I was logged on at the time. Reading back on his comment, I see that he meant by being Chinese was that we can't read or speak the language to make a true scholarly investigation as to whether Fushan Bak Mei, Hakka Bak Mei, Jie Kon Sieuw Bak Mei, Nam Anh Bak Mei, etc is closer to what Bak Mei himself originally intended Bak Mei Kung Fu to be.
He also meant that we hardly even know who Bak Mei really was because his life is shrouded in mystery and myth, written in Chinese poetry and legend which might not have even been completely translated into a language that any of us can even understand. By Chinese he meant most of us can not speak the language, he meant nothing about DNA. Where this theory of "3 stage development" even comes from or how it correlates with what he said is beyond me.
AbiDawud...how can you say you can trace it back. I can't trace my own blood line further than 4 generations. How about you? You say Li Yang Jian is purely a Bak Mei practitioner. Well, Bak Mei himself studied multiple styles. You are being con. It they didn't do this for money then they would care if people believed or followed them because the understand the value. You have inner issues because you aren't a dummy, but something just doesn't make sense.
It's very effective, powerful and deadly. Seeing the form at a distance won't show you anything. You have to know what Sifu Li is doing and he has to show you the application to the form. The form shows you how to move, but forms are meant to hide. When you break down the form, then it's a different story. This stuff is meant to be taught in secrecy and seclusion.
Fushan Bak Mei is so smooth and filled with purpose and power just like a lot of other Shaolin based Kung Fu. The village based systems are all jerky, stiff and over exagerated as far as I can see, such as the hakka stuff from the hakka people.
An example of what I'm saying could be the varying branches of Wing Chun for instance. There are six major branches of Wing Chun, I happen to be a practitioner of 2. When people who've only seen or learned the Yip Man / Hong Kong branch of Wing Chun see the Pan Nam / Fushan branch of Wing Chun, they say that's not really Wing Chun, it's Tai Chi with Wing Chun influences or something of that nature.
In reality they have no right what-so-ever to say that Pan Nam Wing Chun is not Wing Chun. This is because no one alive today was alive when Ng Mui taught Yim Wing Chun.
For the same reason I say that as long as a respectable practitioner, as Li Yiang Jian surely is, keeps the 4 principles, 6 powers, 6 animals, calls it Bak Mei and can trace his lineage back to Bak Mei himself, then you have no right what-so-ever to say that what they are practicing is not Bak Mei or is some other art with Bak Mei influences.
This is because no one alive today was alive to see Bak Mei teaching Monk Kwong Hoi, his famous student. No one was alive to see what Bak Mei Kung Fu actually looked like as was intended by Bak Mei HIMSELF and not manchu64.
The only true knowledge we have of Bak Mei's original system is the 4 principles, 6 powers, 6 animals and some famous forms that were called Sub Jee, Sub Baat Mui Kiu and Gao Bo Tui. If you've fulfilled those things of sure knowledge and have a valid lineage, then it's Bak Mei, not some other art with Bak Mei influences. Anyone who has an ounce of justice, fairness, wisdom, intelligence and integrity should realize this and should not display such opinionated fallacies in a public forum.
Don't take what I say the wrong way,I know this guy is your Sifu and no offense is intended.A good analogy would be with the Okinawa versions of the Hakka styles they copied,although good and useful they lost something on the boat going back home or they were not taught the whole system,this happens with all branches of Bai Mei,sad but true.
Not true Bak Mei,this is Fushan fist with bak mei influence,its missing the core root and meaning of true Bak Mei,not to take anything away from the player because he does show skill,just not Bak Mei skill
You stated that Fushan Bak Mei is not actually Bak Mei. What you did fail to mention is what fundamental principals do you feel is missing with this system that excludes it from even being legitimately considered to be one of the many possible branches of Bak Mei?
I ask is because what I thought the main characteristics Bak Mei has that separates it from other martial arts are the 4 principles Fou (Float), Chum (Sink), Tun (Swallow), and Tou (Spit).
Also, the 6 powers: Biu (Thrust), Chum (Sink), Tan (Spring), Fa (Neutralize), Tung, and Chuk. As well as the usage of the Six Animals: Tiger (Footwork and Claw), Dragon Claw, Leopard Paw, Snake, Crane, and the Phoenix Eye fist posture.
In the form Grand Master Li Yiang Jian (the current head of the Fushan Branch of Bak Mei) is performing above, he applies all of these Bak Mei characteristics. Because he is being filmed at a distance, you wouldn't know that unless you've studied Fushan Bak Mei yourself. You can't see hims using the Pheonix Eye, Leopard Paw, Dragon Claw, etc.
Li Yang Jian is purely a Bak Mei practitioner. He hasn't dabbled in other systems and mixed them with his own. His lineage is very impressive and is as follows: Bak Mei who taught Monk Kwong Hoi, who taught Xiu Fo Dao Yan and Monk Jok Fah Wan (Monk Jok was the teacher of Cheung Lai-Chuen after he was defeated by his student), who taught Zhi Shang Guo, who taught Lao Xiu Luang.
AbiDawud, When you talk you show how much you do not know Sifu. He is a fighter and will accept a challenge and fight anyone, especially those who bad mouth him or his Bak Mei. But, he is a simple man with a huge heart. He is the nicest man you will ever meet, but will protect what's his and win, as he has never lost. Let the fools talk, as they know nothing, and even you yourself have no idea about what you mention!
Maybe you should read what I said more carefully. I never said he didn't have a big heart or any of the other qualities the man has that you just mentioned, he's a human being, not a cold blooded murderer, and I know this. On the other hand when people say things like that out of ignorance, you have to put that stuff aside and lay out the facts on the table. You misunderstood what I said.
Nevertheless, now that you've attracted my attention, I'd like to ask, are you the one who said, "Both Dr. Ko and Mr. Coconis (Long) are the only authorized and qualified instructors from Sifu Li Yang Jian and the Futshan Jing Wu to teach this rare art worldwide. We bring the pure art of Futshan Bak Mei to the entire world and are the only one's outside of Futshan China teaching and performing it in it's complete correctness.
Further Gao Jun Long is currently Sifu Li's only Disciple anywhere in the world. There are no other groups, schools or instructors outside of Futshan China that teach Futshan Bak Mei correctly. We are the only ones."???
I am!! And all that are true statements. Sifu has had others there to train with him and then came back to the US (one major person really and a few stragglers). Those who have trained with him have not taken the art seriously there during their stay (or strayed from the training in favor of someone else's ideals) and it shows big time in there representation of the art.
To break that down, I am talking about missing fundamental drills, improper footwork, completely altered and wrong hand forms, etc... That's fine I guess, do it how you want, but there is no one else that follows the precise teachings of Sifu Li in the US as of yet. This is why he has allowed me the Bai Si and has accepted me as his disciple and I am his first and to date I am still the only one. I would like others to follow his teachings and bring the art back purely.
That is why I have proposed others to travel there and train with him and we could work together here to promote it that way. Its not cosmic or anything, its just fact. Recently another gentleman has traveled to Sifu and has been accepted as a student of his and I will be helping him here in the states when we can so he can also follow the way Sifu teaches the system. Sifu and my goals are to have his Son be the number one in the event that something ever happens to Sifu.
I feel he should be the actual inheritor of the art from his father, not me or anyone else. You see I have nothing to hide and work very well with those who have been with Sifu and have the ability and desire to learn and perform the art the way it is supposed to be, not someone's rendition of the art that they have made up.
I am not trying to put anyone down just stating fact from my experience and first hand knowledge of certain individuals and conversations with Sifu. Anything else I can help you with?
Any wanna be tough guy can talk trash all over the internet where your identity can remain anonymous, but I don't think you should be saying a word until you're willing to say it to someone's face, especially if the one you're trashing is a master and you're some laymen bum joe shmoe off the street.
Better yet, visit master Li yourselves, but if you do, don't expect to be able to walk the same ever again. Master Li has been accepting challengers from all around China for years. It won't be hard to find Master Li, he's very well known and very much feared by the people of Futshan. Offer him some money to fight you and he'll tear your arm off, smash your head in with it, then take your money and feed you to the dogs in his alley way.
We don't want bodybuilding power, we want real hitting power. Bodybuilders come down to my school all the time and get tossed around like rag dolls, they look strong but get slapped around all day long. If you doubt Li Yang Jian's killing capabilities, then visit Eddie Chong or any of his affiliated students in America, be men about it and tell them to their faces that you think their Bak Mei is weak.
You don't always know how deadly certain Kung Fu styles are just by watching the form because applications are meant to be hidden and made known at the teacher's discretion for many different reasons. Also if they make they're strikes look powerful, then they wouldn't work against an experienced fighter because they would see your attacks coming from a mile away because you've been trained to make them be seen.
Li Yang Jian is my Sigung. He is an extremely deadly, violant and ferocious no nonsense individual. He has always been eager to accept challengers from anywhere in China or the world for that matter and is very well known in Futshan. His system doesn't use tension because that restricts your power and speed. He flows until the point of contact like an arrow when it hits it's target.
Your eyes do no fool you. This version of Pak Mei from is not the same as the ferocious style made famous by Cheung Lai Cheun. Don't get the two confused.
This looks like the wushu-taichi version of pak mei. Way I look at pakmei, if someone practise and I go "Oooh don't wanna be hit by him" then probably more correct. Not to do with how form looks, just feeling.
I'm an idiot? I'm not the one that claims to be a master of 8 or 10 different arts, claims to be the only true student of that Futsan crap and has devoted my life to that con job. You disgraced yourself when you disgraced Eddie Chong, and anybody that's seen your video knows you don't know kung fu from dung fu. So, disolve away before more people find out the truth about you Coconis.
A style doesn't have to look powerful to be powerful.Different schools have their own take on the same method that you may practice,Just because they do it differently don't mean that they are wrong.
does master Li Yang Jian teach at the futshan Jing Wu?
zengzicong 1 year ago
wow, this doesnt look at all like CLC bak mei as i know it... I'm not an expert by any means, but it looks as if the fundamental principles aren't the same... I'd love to see this at full speed...
SynS7ven 1 year ago
This is such an GREAT vid,... a true master,....a gem of a vid !!
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dabarber2000 is one ingorant motherfucker isn't he...WOW...anywho, this video is the bak mei form...however...it is done LONG and SOFT even tho bak mei IS A SOUTHERN system...and as far as who's kung fu is taught by where and who? whoever you learn the art from is who you learned it...not from their master because interpretation of the style differs...like a huge phone game...please don't be a retard.......
hakkasci 3 years ago
Yes, Kung Fu comes from China, this is very true. But this wouldn't mean that the Chinese are better at it. It could be explained by pointing at the difference in lifestyle. Here in the West people often look at martial arts as something to do, 2 - 3 times a week and not as a way of life. But the few people who do devote their life to the arts can become as great as their Chinese counterparts.
Greetings from Belgium,
Ben
-A great teacher wants his students to become better than himself-
benvandewouwer 3 years ago
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this is gay
feltbmxnow 3 years ago
Read your history son. because you actually or your master actually learn it from a asain master. This shit is trace back to the shoalin temple in China. so you really actually learn it from a asain dude. If you was really good then you would be humble and respectful to others. Hiding behind the computer and talking shit about master that you don't know nothing about is easy. And who's afraid of anyone these day. You ever heard of a gun?
Dabarber2000 4 years ago
I knew you wasn't asain, because if you was, you would not be talking shit. What i was trying to tell you in the first place is that it's not the style that is weak but the person, so you say a lot of asain guys are afraid of your Gong fu. Excuse! but where did you learn it from? and what style you talking about?
Dabarber2000 4 years ago
That is crap - I'm not Asian and yet I know a lotta Asians who fear my Gong Fu as hell. Anyone can learn and excell at Gong Fu and anything in this life. All u need is a good school, support and determination to learn. There's no super Gens out there when it comes to learning.
34thshaolinstudent 4 years ago 3
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Fuck it! being asain has it's advantage over non asain who try to learn this art! It's in our blood. We develop it. Get mad if you want to. It's fact! you learn it from us. admit it. hahahah
Dabarber2000 4 years ago
too bad your sifu didn't teach you any respect.
kempobrad 3 years ago 2
Dabarber2000 you are acting and sounding like a moronic idiot. Should Yo-yo ma bow down to Westerners because "We" invented Cello and perfected the art of playing it so "it is in our blood". I know westerners that are more Asian in their knowledge and philosophies AND their kung fu than millions of Chinese. Get a clue. People are mostly whatever they learn or are exposed to. Period. Sure there is a little genetic encoding but it is subtle, very subtle. Thank you though for kung fu!
TexasSizzle 3 years ago 3
but China also must thank India. That is where martial arts came from.
TexasSizzle 3 years ago
I thought martial arts came from monks (i know their religion is Indian) who developed a way to defend themselves from bandit raids by watching forest animals, and refining technique for thousands of years.
I do not mean to argue, I'm just curious.
Mitsushiru 2 years ago
Talk is cheap and easy! theres too many people who like to say this and say that, but really we non chinese will never know the actual truth behind the story telling and myth because first we don't speak the lanugage second that stuff is so old hard to trace back. But if you see the art and it looks good and it works why not take it. Like Bruce lee said take what's good and disgard whats not..It doens't mater where it came from, if it's gonna help you in a fight then why not benifit from it.
TabeebAbiDawudMD 4 years ago
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what a load of cock n' bull. DNA (as in chinese or not) makes no difference to the "understanding". Fact is, some people get it, some don't. Bruce Lee was at stage 2 of development... 3 stages: 1) love the work; 2) hate the work: 3) accept the work and just be... even governments work in the same guidelines in the develoment of countries.
mrmofo08 4 years ago
That was my brother in-law who said that. It's under my name because I was logged on at the time. Reading back on his comment, I see that he meant by being Chinese was that we can't read or speak the language to make a true scholarly investigation as to whether Fushan Bak Mei, Hakka Bak Mei, Jie Kon Sieuw Bak Mei, Nam Anh Bak Mei, etc is closer to what Bak Mei himself originally intended Bak Mei Kung Fu to be.
TabeebAbiDawudMD 4 years ago 2
He also meant that we hardly even know who Bak Mei really was because his life is shrouded in mystery and myth, written in Chinese poetry and legend which might not have even been completely translated into a language that any of us can even understand. By Chinese he meant most of us can not speak the language, he meant nothing about DNA. Where this theory of "3 stage development" even comes from or how it correlates with what he said is beyond me.
TabeebAbiDawudMD 4 years ago 2
Mr Li is great! Real bak mei kung fu is very smooth!
Dabarber2000 4 years ago
AbiDawud...how can you say you can trace it back. I can't trace my own blood line further than 4 generations. How about you? You say Li Yang Jian is purely a Bak Mei practitioner. Well, Bak Mei himself studied multiple styles. You are being con. It they didn't do this for money then they would care if people believed or followed them because the understand the value. You have inner issues because you aren't a dummy, but something just doesn't make sense.
rbasia 4 years ago
is this really useful in combat?
arjuna316 4 years ago
It's very effective, powerful and deadly. Seeing the form at a distance won't show you anything. You have to know what Sifu Li is doing and he has to show you the application to the form. The form shows you how to move, but forms are meant to hide. When you break down the form, then it's a different story. This stuff is meant to be taught in secrecy and seclusion.
Dabarber2000 4 years ago
Fushan Bak Mei is so smooth and filled with purpose and power just like a lot of other Shaolin based Kung Fu. The village based systems are all jerky, stiff and over exagerated as far as I can see, such as the hakka stuff from the hakka people.
Raheem916 4 years ago 2
Ha ha! Another bad copy cat. looks like Pak Mei only.
kungfumania2 4 years ago
An example of what I'm saying could be the varying branches of Wing Chun for instance. There are six major branches of Wing Chun, I happen to be a practitioner of 2. When people who've only seen or learned the Yip Man / Hong Kong branch of Wing Chun see the Pan Nam / Fushan branch of Wing Chun, they say that's not really Wing Chun, it's Tai Chi with Wing Chun influences or something of that nature.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
In reality they have no right what-so-ever to say that Pan Nam Wing Chun is not Wing Chun. This is because no one alive today was alive when Ng Mui taught Yim Wing Chun.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
For the same reason I say that as long as a respectable practitioner, as Li Yiang Jian surely is, keeps the 4 principles, 6 powers, 6 animals, calls it Bak Mei and can trace his lineage back to Bak Mei himself, then you have no right what-so-ever to say that what they are practicing is not Bak Mei or is some other art with Bak Mei influences.
AbiDawud 4 years ago 2
This is because no one alive today was alive to see Bak Mei teaching Monk Kwong Hoi, his famous student. No one was alive to see what Bak Mei Kung Fu actually looked like as was intended by Bak Mei HIMSELF and not manchu64.
AbiDawud 4 years ago 2
The only true knowledge we have of Bak Mei's original system is the 4 principles, 6 powers, 6 animals and some famous forms that were called Sub Jee, Sub Baat Mui Kiu and Gao Bo Tui. If you've fulfilled those things of sure knowledge and have a valid lineage, then it's Bak Mei, not some other art with Bak Mei influences. Anyone who has an ounce of justice, fairness, wisdom, intelligence and integrity should realize this and should not display such opinionated fallacies in a public forum.
AbiDawud 4 years ago 2
Si Fu Eddie Chong is amazing!
Raheem916 4 years ago
tsefreeflow
Don't take what I say the wrong way,I know this guy is your Sifu and no offense is intended.A good analogy would be with the Okinawa versions of the Hakka styles they copied,although good and useful they lost something on the boat going back home or they were not taught the whole system,this happens with all branches of Bai Mei,sad but true.
manchu64 4 years ago
Ok, whatever you think =0)
tsefreeflow 4 years ago
Hey,if it works for you drive on
manchu64 4 years ago
Bak Mei Kung fu is amazing!
Raheem916 4 years ago
Not true Bak Mei,this is Fushan fist with bak mei influence,its missing the core root and meaning of true Bak Mei,not to take anything away from the player because he does show skill,just not Bak Mei skill
manchu64 4 years ago
You stated that Fushan Bak Mei is not actually Bak Mei. What you did fail to mention is what fundamental principals do you feel is missing with this system that excludes it from even being legitimately considered to be one of the many possible branches of Bak Mei?
AbiDawud 4 years ago
I ask is because what I thought the main characteristics Bak Mei has that separates it from other martial arts are the 4 principles Fou (Float), Chum (Sink), Tun (Swallow), and Tou (Spit).
AbiDawud 4 years ago
Also, the 6 powers: Biu (Thrust), Chum (Sink), Tan (Spring), Fa (Neutralize), Tung, and Chuk. As well as the usage of the Six Animals: Tiger (Footwork and Claw), Dragon Claw, Leopard Paw, Snake, Crane, and the Phoenix Eye fist posture.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
In the form Grand Master Li Yiang Jian (the current head of the Fushan Branch of Bak Mei) is performing above, he applies all of these Bak Mei characteristics. Because he is being filmed at a distance, you wouldn't know that unless you've studied Fushan Bak Mei yourself. You can't see hims using the Pheonix Eye, Leopard Paw, Dragon Claw, etc.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
Li Yang Jian is purely a Bak Mei practitioner. He hasn't dabbled in other systems and mixed them with his own. His lineage is very impressive and is as follows: Bak Mei who taught Monk Kwong Hoi, who taught Xiu Fo Dao Yan and Monk Jok Fah Wan (Monk Jok was the teacher of Cheung Lai-Chuen after he was defeated by his student), who taught Zhi Shang Guo, who taught Lao Xiu Luang.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
Lao Xiu Luang then established the Fushan Branch of Bak Mei then passed all his knowledge to Li Yang Jian (the man above).
AbiDawud 4 years ago
AbiDawud, When you talk you show how much you do not know Sifu. He is a fighter and will accept a challenge and fight anyone, especially those who bad mouth him or his Bak Mei. But, he is a simple man with a huge heart. He is the nicest man you will ever meet, but will protect what's his and win, as he has never lost. Let the fools talk, as they know nothing, and even you yourself have no idea about what you mention!
tsefreeflow 4 years ago
Maybe you should read what I said more carefully. I never said he didn't have a big heart or any of the other qualities the man has that you just mentioned, he's a human being, not a cold blooded murderer, and I know this. On the other hand when people say things like that out of ignorance, you have to put that stuff aside and lay out the facts on the table. You misunderstood what I said.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
Nevertheless, now that you've attracted my attention, I'd like to ask, are you the one who said, "Both Dr. Ko and Mr. Coconis (Long) are the only authorized and qualified instructors from Sifu Li Yang Jian and the Futshan Jing Wu to teach this rare art worldwide. We bring the pure art of Futshan Bak Mei to the entire world and are the only one's outside of Futshan China teaching and performing it in it's complete correctness.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
Further Gao Jun Long is currently Sifu Li's only Disciple anywhere in the world. There are no other groups, schools or instructors outside of Futshan China that teach Futshan Bak Mei correctly. We are the only ones."???
AbiDawud 4 years ago
Are you Michael Coconis / Gao Jun Long??
AbiDawud 4 years ago
I am!! And all that are true statements. Sifu has had others there to train with him and then came back to the US (one major person really and a few stragglers). Those who have trained with him have not taken the art seriously there during their stay (or strayed from the training in favor of someone else's ideals) and it shows big time in there representation of the art.
tsefreeflow 4 years ago
To break that down, I am talking about missing fundamental drills, improper footwork, completely altered and wrong hand forms, etc... That's fine I guess, do it how you want, but there is no one else that follows the precise teachings of Sifu Li in the US as of yet. This is why he has allowed me the Bai Si and has accepted me as his disciple and I am his first and to date I am still the only one. I would like others to follow his teachings and bring the art back purely.
tsefreeflow 4 years ago
That is why I have proposed others to travel there and train with him and we could work together here to promote it that way. Its not cosmic or anything, its just fact. Recently another gentleman has traveled to Sifu and has been accepted as a student of his and I will be helping him here in the states when we can so he can also follow the way Sifu teaches the system. Sifu and my goals are to have his Son be the number one in the event that something ever happens to Sifu.
tsefreeflow 4 years ago
I feel he should be the actual inheritor of the art from his father, not me or anyone else. You see I have nothing to hide and work very well with those who have been with Sifu and have the ability and desire to learn and perform the art the way it is supposed to be, not someone's rendition of the art that they have made up.
tsefreeflow 4 years ago
I am not trying to put anyone down just stating fact from my experience and first hand knowledge of certain individuals and conversations with Sifu. Anything else I can help you with?
tsefreeflow 4 years ago
lol @ comments. Chill out guys, the whole "kung fu deadly" think is a bit overexaggerated nowadays by kung fu exponents (I used to do that myself).
cloud0123 4 years ago
Any wanna be tough guy can talk trash all over the internet where your identity can remain anonymous, but I don't think you should be saying a word until you're willing to say it to someone's face, especially if the one you're trashing is a master and you're some laymen bum joe shmoe off the street.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
Better yet, visit master Li yourselves, but if you do, don't expect to be able to walk the same ever again. Master Li has been accepting challengers from all around China for years. It won't be hard to find Master Li, he's very well known and very much feared by the people of Futshan. Offer him some money to fight you and he'll tear your arm off, smash your head in with it, then take your money and feed you to the dogs in his alley way.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
We don't want bodybuilding power, we want real hitting power. Bodybuilders come down to my school all the time and get tossed around like rag dolls, they look strong but get slapped around all day long. If you doubt Li Yang Jian's killing capabilities, then visit Eddie Chong or any of his affiliated students in America, be men about it and tell them to their faces that you think their Bak Mei is weak.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
You don't always know how deadly certain Kung Fu styles are just by watching the form because applications are meant to be hidden and made known at the teacher's discretion for many different reasons. Also if they make they're strikes look powerful, then they wouldn't work against an experienced fighter because they would see your attacks coming from a mile away because you've been trained to make them be seen.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
Li Yang Jian is my Sigung. He is an extremely deadly, violant and ferocious no nonsense individual. He has always been eager to accept challengers from anywhere in China or the world for that matter and is very well known in Futshan. His system doesn't use tension because that restricts your power and speed. He flows until the point of contact like an arrow when it hits it's target.
AbiDawud 4 years ago
Your eyes do no fool you. This version of Pak Mei from is not the same as the ferocious style made famous by Cheung Lai Cheun. Don't get the two confused.
sparrow58 4 years ago
Haha, your an idiot for sure =0)
tsefreeflow 4 years ago
This looks like the wushu-taichi version of pak mei. Way I look at pakmei, if someone practise and I go "Oooh don't wanna be hit by him" then probably more correct. Not to do with how form looks, just feeling.
megreenhulk 4 years ago
I'm an idiot? I'm not the one that claims to be a master of 8 or 10 different arts, claims to be the only true student of that Futsan crap and has devoted my life to that con job. You disgraced yourself when you disgraced Eddie Chong, and anybody that's seen your video knows you don't know kung fu from dung fu. So, disolve away before more people find out the truth about you Coconis.
sparrow58 4 years ago
A style doesn't have to look powerful to be powerful.Different schools have their own take on the same method that you may practice,Just because they do it differently don't mean that they are wrong.
shengchenfan 5 years ago
Wow this is Grand Master Li Yang Jian, do not let your eyes fool you! The power is there!
Raheem916 5 years ago
hmm fut shan pakmei is different to hakka pak mei rite? or is it the same? cuz it looks less powerful from wat i can see.
traphiccc 5 years ago