i think the bus substitution is perminant for route 23. septa cancled it because its too long of route and it would cost too much money to get it back on track. i never saw the 23 trolley run.
SEPTA is balls on ass broke! In the process, everyone has to pay for it's outlandish budget deficit one way or another. I want to also add this, I read an article in a nationwide publication a few years ago, Septa pays out a lot for disability claims for it's employees, meaning Septa has an enormous disability budget, the largest out of any transit company in North America. So, it means that Septa has to many deadbeat employees out on disability! Philadelphia needs an enema!
No, there haven't been trolleys on Rt 23 in years. Although the rails and wires were replaced when they rebuilt the roadway on Germantown last year, there are no trolley at Gtown Depot and the wires are cut at Wayne Jct. Officially the Rt 23 Trolleys are "temporarily" replaced with busses, as is Rt 56. Only Rt 15 has seen the trolleys return. Right now there is no equipment and SEPTA shows little or no interest in having the trolleys return.
its cool seeing that PCC passing under that steam era railroad bridge at :50 very nestalgic is this on the regular SEPTA line it doesnt look like its running on muselm trackage
hmm a fitting salute to the PCC and its sort or eary to see that pcc pasing that diner at :27 it looks like two old trolly cars from a differnt era themselfs sort of like the PCC saying look at me boys I am still around we aint dead yet LOL
Here we are with gasoline at $4 a gallon, and all those wonderfully energy efficient streetcars and trolleys that once were everywhere now mostly gone. Thank God for Philly and the remaining traction systems.
Nice to hear they're bringing that trolley back as well. They did a good job resurrecting the route 15 trolley that runs on Girard. So, they're going to re-do the route 23, all the way through CC?
Thank you! I used to ride the 23 from Gravers Lane, Chestnut Hill to Germantown and catch the 75 to Frankford to church as a youngster...I really hope SEPTA will restore the "world's longest trolley line" [23] soon! An ex-pat in DC!
Just this week PennDOT started working on Germantown Ave near Mermaid Lane, going to redo the whole thing, utilities and all including all new trolley tracks which are currently paved over. Should be done in a couple years.
HEY!!! I am OVERJOYED TO HEAR THAT!!!! I'm a a major PCC streetcar enthusiast. I make regular pilgrimages to Philly to ride the PCC's on the 15 route. My friend started bringing me to the Trolley Car Diner several years ago, and I was always hoping they'd restore service to Mt. Airy, as it runs right past the Diner. Streetcars make cities livable and enjoyable to people of all ages and abilities.
I haven't been up to Germantown in a while, last time was back in 2006. I saw that they covered over sections of track with asphalt. I was under the impression that they were going to just cover everything over like they did on Toresdale avenue for the Rt. 56? So, is there a restoration in the works for the 23? I would like them to incorporate the section of the 23 that would run from Girard avenue south through center city and down to South Philly.
@italobambino43, They have been working on Germantown Avenue the past few years and they are putting in new trolley tracks as they rebuild the roadway, so there is always hope that the "temporary" bustitution is not permanent. SEPTA currently does not have the equipment to put trolleys back.
At 1:24 the trolley de- wired
donsande2 3 days ago
I'm here in S. Calif. and we are getting ours back these look great in your town. Keeping my fingers crossed that you get yours back.
ren439 1 month ago
i think the bus substitution is perminant for route 23. septa cancled it because its too long of route and it would cost too much money to get it back on track. i never saw the 23 trolley run.
donsande2 2 months ago
Too bad there are so many cars. They ruin things for streetcars and other living things!
schizzie345 5 months ago
Haha, at 0:07 when you hear someone saying "Hi No-ah!", that's my old babysitter talking to my little brother, who was one year old at the time.
ariw2003net 9 months ago
SEPTA is balls on ass broke! In the process, everyone has to pay for it's outlandish budget deficit one way or another. I want to also add this, I read an article in a nationwide publication a few years ago, Septa pays out a lot for disability claims for it's employees, meaning Septa has an enormous disability budget, the largest out of any transit company in North America. So, it means that Septa has to many deadbeat employees out on disability! Philadelphia needs an enema!
italobambino43 1 year ago
oaksmodelrr, do they still run chartered trolleys on Germantown Ave anymore?
Tubes12AX7k 2 years ago 2
No, there haven't been trolleys on Rt 23 in years. Although the rails and wires were replaced when they rebuilt the roadway on Germantown last year, there are no trolley at Gtown Depot and the wires are cut at Wayne Jct. Officially the Rt 23 Trolleys are "temporarily" replaced with busses, as is Rt 56. Only Rt 15 has seen the trolleys return. Right now there is no equipment and SEPTA shows little or no interest in having the trolleys return.
oaksmodelrr 2 years ago
these remind me of the trans I just photographed in Moscow Russia still running on a dailly basis they look simular to the PCC
gaycowboy31 2 years ago
@gaycowboy31
It's because they ARE PCC...
proulxmontpellier 1 year ago
@proulxmontpellier well I ment to say in my previous comment the ones in Russia looked simular to these PCC cars I know these are PCC cars
gaycowboy31 1 year ago
its cool seeing that PCC passing under that steam era railroad bridge at :50 very nestalgic is this on the regular SEPTA line it doesnt look like its running on muselm trackage
gaycowboy31 2 years ago
hmm a fitting salute to the PCC and its sort or eary to see that pcc pasing that diner at :27 it looks like two old trolly cars from a differnt era themselfs sort of like the PCC saying look at me boys I am still around we aint dead yet LOL
gaycowboy31 2 years ago 2
Good job on this video... watching this trolley float thru town with its occasional ding! brings back fond memories....
OMGarlic 3 years ago 3
Acts sort of like a road vehicle (like a bus), but it's not... I wish the trolley still ran through my town like it did in the early 1900s!
TrainManTy 3 years ago 5
Here we are with gasoline at $4 a gallon, and all those wonderfully energy efficient streetcars and trolleys that once were everywhere now mostly gone. Thank God for Philly and the remaining traction systems.
ROCKSTARCRANE 3 years ago 6
This car(2783 back then)was refurbished in 2004 and now runs on Route 15 and numbered 2337.
PHILLY2727 3 years ago
Neoplan 3024 i miss them 3000 !!!!!
vze428s7 3 years ago 3
does that trolly have breaklights?
Sandwichfart 3 years ago
I think so.
Two of them.
videonut33 3 years ago 2
yes, but they can be missed easily and most ppl race around them anyway when stopped.
stevefromPA 3 years ago 2
Nice to hear they're bringing that trolley back as well. They did a good job resurrecting the route 15 trolley that runs on Girard. So, they're going to re-do the route 23, all the way through CC?
Gaeilgeoir 4 years ago
Just like Toronto TTC streetcars
TrainmasterCurt 4 years ago 3
Thank you! I used to ride the 23 from Gravers Lane, Chestnut Hill to Germantown and catch the 75 to Frankford to church as a youngster...I really hope SEPTA will restore the "world's longest trolley line" [23] soon! An ex-pat in DC!
JohnnyNW 4 years ago
Just this week PennDOT started working on Germantown Ave near Mermaid Lane, going to redo the whole thing, utilities and all including all new trolley tracks which are currently paved over. Should be done in a couple years.
oaksmodelrr 4 years ago
That's great to hear even though I live in NYC. I only wish that they hadn't destroyed the trolley system in Brooklyn and replaced it with buses.
adelgado75 4 years ago
HEY!!! I am OVERJOYED TO HEAR THAT!!!! I'm a a major PCC streetcar enthusiast. I make regular pilgrimages to Philly to ride the PCC's on the 15 route. My friend started bringing me to the Trolley Car Diner several years ago, and I was always hoping they'd restore service to Mt. Airy, as it runs right past the Diner. Streetcars make cities livable and enjoyable to people of all ages and abilities.
dpjaexp 4 years ago
@oaksmodelrr
I haven't been up to Germantown in a while, last time was back in 2006. I saw that they covered over sections of track with asphalt. I was under the impression that they were going to just cover everything over like they did on Toresdale avenue for the Rt. 56? So, is there a restoration in the works for the 23? I would like them to incorporate the section of the 23 that would run from Girard avenue south through center city and down to South Philly.
italobambino43 1 year ago
@italobambino43, They have been working on Germantown Avenue the past few years and they are putting in new trolley tracks as they rebuild the roadway, so there is always hope that the "temporary" bustitution is not permanent. SEPTA currently does not have the equipment to put trolleys back.
oaksmodelrr 1 year ago
Excellent video! Very cool.
nyctransitforums 4 years ago
Neoplan! Nice video.
Jayayess1190 4 years ago
Nice video,nice oldtimer tram.
dutchtrainmanserie22 4 years ago