Yes when the religion started they could have more then one wife but so could anyone else, it is not practiced anymore at least not by the actual religion and its an insult. I was raised mormon 'LDS' and only stopped going after coming out but I still believe that growing up in that environment has been better for me even if i choose not to stick with it. It's a good place with good people but you don't see that if you just poke at it from the outside.
i think this woman is jealous of mormons. hahaha. sad that people have to bash against them. i dont beleive their religion but i think the other christians are equally redicurous!
i think this woman is jealous of mormons. hahaha. sad that people have to bash against them. i dont beleive their religion but i think the other christians are equally redicurous!
i think this woman is jealous of mormons. hahaha. sad that people have to bash against them. i dont beleive their religion but i think the other christians are equally redicurous!
As a child, I was forced into the Mormon religion by my mother. And we had no money because of it. They took 10% of her paycheck and we were already scraping by. They're nothing but money-grabbing whores with a self-righteous mission to guilt you into believing you're a bad person, and that "Christ" can save you. Ever seen a Mormon temple, or been to a Prophet's house? Nice to know my mother's money was well-spent.
On another note, this video is hilarious and brilliantly executed =D
If terrorists were gods keepers, who will save god? And who is this god who needs to be saved by man? And if man is saving god, is man not god's GOD?·
@LatterDaySaint1981 I count no less than eleven spelling and grammatical errors in your post. Excellent work. It has to be some kind of dumbshit record.
@MrHolypants I love how you say "The Mormon religion wasn't invented yet" with such condemnation, without realizing that you yourself, just admitted Mormonism was an invention. And exactly how many founding fathers do you think would have been Mormon if that cult had been invented before their time?
@ifald30 Yes, Joseph Smith has one wife. And then he got 30 more of them! But I didn't expect you to know that about your own religion, dear. After all, you can't be a Mormon if you're on speaking terms with reality.
@MrsBettyBowers Well, if you studied enough to understand the circumstances you also know that America itself persecuted the Mormons against the American law which certainly is not very nice. Thus many women had lost their husbands to an unsupportive country where women's rights were certainly not what they are today.
@ju1c3f Yes, they were prosecuted. mainly for the preaching of polygamy. Kinda like how they prosecute the LGBTQ community with insane and even unlawful practices. A mormons claiming they are "discriminated against" is as ironic as a chomo claiming rape in prison.
Joseph smith translated the golden plates. The books did not come in a hat.
2: He was not a polygamist
3: The polygamist church, also known as the FLDS, a break off of the LDS church, when the officials said polygamy is outlawed. Mormons (LDS) people are not polygamist. Thanks, and bye.
2. Bullshit. Andrew Jenson, a high up member of the LDS (their historian no less) published a list of Smith's wives.
Today, sure:
"The public practice of polygamy (“plural marriage”) by the church was announced and defended in 1852 by one of the Council of the Twelve Apostles, Elder Orson Pratt, by the request of the church President at that time, Brigham Young." - Utah University's historical encyclopedia, "polygamy" section.
@xxmag3erxx David Whitmer from the "History of the Church" (A LDS history book) "I will now give you a description of the manner in which the Book of Mormon was translated. Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English." He did translate from a hat.
@xxmag3erxx Also, check out the LDS genealogy website entry on JS. I think you'll be surprised to see all 30+ of his wives listed with records. And finally. The LDS church still practices celestial plural marriage today. Ask your bishop if a wife has to be "unsealed" from her husband before being sealed to a new one. Then ask if the male has to be unsealed before being sealed to a new wife. A male may be sealed to multiple women in "Celestial marriage", a female may not. Still practiced today.
@xxmag3erxx Wrong wrong and wrong. From an ex-mormon to you. Ask your bishop. Other people did find the quotes already, but I strongly advice you to hear it from the bishop's mouth.
@MrsBettyBowers Deary, please explain why the PBS Frontline documentary about Mormons admitted that the LDS church is "remarkably scandal free" but the Evangelicals sects are led by convicted thieves and perverts like Jim Baker, Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggart etc. etc.
You could very well have become my favorite person with that comment. You even beat that Jewish guy. You know, the carpenter who said something and made the Pharisees fart, or something.
@ifald30 this guys a moron. not a mormon haha. he didnt have one wife. he had a bunch. and so should we all! BRING BACK POLYGAMY! no wonder all these marriages are failing. monogamy doesnt work! DUH!
I would also like to add that you disgust me with what you THINK Mormons believe of god and his home/wives etc...And just so you know, the reason there are no Mormons in the Revolutionary war or no Mormon founding fathers might have something to do with the FACT that the church hadn't even been restored yet. The church was not even present on the Earth until the early 1800's. Also, do you even know what a pyramid scheme is? HELLO!? our prophets/bishops/clerks/and all other members are unpaid.
@MrsBettyBowers I would suggest you do more research on the topics you choose to highlight in your program. As a mormon, I'll say that your analysis of the LDS church is DEAD WRONG. Joseph Smith was never a polygamist and had one wife (Emma Smith) for his entire life (I really question where you get your facts) The church does not believe in polygamy and heavily frowns upon it. If you want to read the Mormon Church's stand on marriage, read "A Proclamation to the World".
@scootermagic7 Uhhhh what are you talking about? When the church started so many of the men were dying due to the extreme conditions at the time. That left families fatherless and doomed to pass away. So polygamy was then approved and seen as okay. When it was no longer needed it was denied. Seriously know your own religions background.
@scootermagic7 I hope you are trying to be funny. Smith had 27 wives. I could list them for you or you could google assistant LDS church historian Andrew Jenson. Or perhaps you are a member of the Reformed LDS who started their Church after Brigham Young took the majority of "Saints" to the Utah Territory in 1847. Read Doctrine and Covenants 132.
@scootermagic7 1 "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines"
In fact stated that if you refused this revelation you were committing blasphemy against the Holy Ghost
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This marginalizes the beliefs of every person who believes in God. Most of the good people who have lived on this earth believed that God requires certain behavior, yet you dismiss the words of a thousand wise men and women with a few clever jabs.
Name me any religion, Catholic to Mormon, Jew to Muslim, Hindo to Buddha, Confucianism, Marx communist to Good German socialist that ever had homosexual rights in mind? Answer is Zero. For sound reasoning. The "Kinks in your tail" are not a right. Homosexuals will obtain marriage rights and THEN the Mormons will get their polygamy revelation expression. It "nullifies all non Mormon marriages and contracts" and much more. Maybe homo rights means something besides what "you" think it means, too??
Dumb originally was term referring to someone who was mute. In certain cases, TrickTrolan, when you're not being dumb, you're actually being stupid. Close your mouth and enjoy the show.
@pro0glenn I'm a mormon and I basically agree with you (at least the part about many people having mixed-up ideas about the LDS church). If people don't like us, then that's OK, but at least don't like us for the right reasons, and not some distorted viewpoint.
@pro0glenn Have you ever bothered to do the research into your own religion? Maybe that's why... You say 'Joseph Smith is a true prophet', but you don't know what he 'prophesied' - maybe that's where the problem is...
I don't have a problem with Christians but the Christians in the ruling class right now are passing laws only considering their own interests knowing full-well that the Constitution and the Founding Fathers spelled out : Separation of Church and State so that ,we, the citizens of the United States can practice and have any views we want, religious or not. Stop restricting our basic rights!
I am a true believing Mormon and I thought this was HILARIOUS! (Then again, I am much more liberal than my my fellows, so maybe I don't count.) I love Betty, she is indeed America's Best Christian.
OBAMA SUPPORTERS = BRAINDEAD TROLLS! WAKE UP IDIOTS OBAMA IS DESTROYING AMERICA WITH MASSIVE SPENDING AND TAX HIKES! NOW REMEMBER OBAMA PROMISED THE UNEMPLOYMENT WOULD NOT GO UP IF THE STIMULUS PACKAGES WERE PASSED. STILL RISING ANOTHER FAILED OBAMA PLAN! OBAMA IS A JOKE WITH NO EXPERIENCE! THIS IDIOT WAS A LAWYER FOR THE CORRUPT ACORN ORG. AND OBAMA GAVE THEM SOME OF THE STIMULUS MONEY! ALSO GAVE THE COMPANY THAT CAUSED THE HOUSING CRISIS MONEY AS WELL - FANNIE MAE FREDDIE MAC! WAKE UP!
@iseeblood5 That is absolutely false. Everyone is welcome in the Mormon church. And you can join if you follow it's doctrine. No different then any organization, or country. You don't like it, then stay away.
@ec1954 no then why did they ask me if I was gay when I was about to be baptized, im not gay but I noticed they ask all the guys here who are getting baptized?
@JDNWF66 The short version is that having a direct referendum on a minority population outside the mainstream is against the Constitution of the United States in both letter and spirit, whether that minority is Homosexuals or Mormons. Mormons here are being targeted in particular (thought not exclusively) for their strong role in Proposition 8, which was a direct, popular referendum on the Supreme Court choice in California of homosexual marriage, which was successful in overturning the courts.
this is sad..believe what u want..you don't see mormons making videos about other religions do you? and why label? if you believe in God you believe in God. If you don't you, you don't. If u are gay then be gay. Religion is a life style. not just a sunday thing. live you life the way u want. if making others feel less is what you like to do. i feel sorry for u..as for me, im LDS and i love you all, even if ur gay or any other religion. thats what God does:)
@haydenvp if you got that, you are thin skinned. we catholics have been in the crosshairs for centuries... trust me when i say this... laughing at ones self is not bad. If she was doing this same act to the catholics, we would not take offense because this is SATIRE... no name calling... You guys need to have thicker skins....
@haydenvp I'm a Mormon too. I went on a mission when I was 19. Married in the temple and raised 4 kids all in the church. After 32 years of marriage, I left my wife and came out of the closet. All religions have had or do have prejudices. I sill love the church even tho I do not go any more. It is a wonderful religion and does more humanitarian work then any other church except the Salvation Army. Everyone in church including the leaders take no payment for any of their services they do.
Some people are homophobic, because they have been conditioned to be this way. The conditioning comes largely from people who have a vested interest in the "Faith Industry." Remember, Honesty is not a requirement for making a living from “Faith and Religion", they just have to make MONEY to stay in business.
Uh, wasn't President Buchanan supposed to have had a lover by the name of William Rufus King for 15 years? Isn't that why he was dubbed the "Bachelor President" and they were often referred to as "Buchanan and his wife"?
@krasblak I've seen some rumors about FDR as well. Not as sold on that one as I am Buchannan(his wife though...), but it's enough that I don't think it should be ruled out. He wouldn't be the first gay man married to a woman for any number of reasons.
GOD BLESS YOU BETTY! To have the guts to take on a religion (sorry cult) with the power ($) and influence ($) to do as they damn well please, and the power to persecute and vilify who they please- after all how can Mormons feel good about themselves without treating others like crap? LOVE YOU BETTY!
Betty Bowers, you are a servant of the Living Jesus, but you are not "America Best Christian". Besides, you are a woman. You can NOT be THE best Christian...Glory!
Read your Bible woman! I Corinthians 14:34. Don't let your female pride lead you to Hell!
Pastor Deacon Fred idsTHE true "Best Christian". NO woman can hold this title. A REAL Christian "best" is a MAN and a Baptist. I'm praying for you, Sister Betty.
@a2daredevil00 We dug really deep into the ground, and even bounced radio waves off of it. We have a very strong understanding of what is below the ground, and it's definitely NOT hell. I don't think any of us are really all that worried about your 'once taken literally, not only taken figuratively' book of bullshit.
@a2daredevil00 Also, threatening people will hell is terrorism. People will disagree with you throughout your life. That doesn't give you the right to coerce them by means of threatening them to hell, or ignoring their completely legitimate questions, such as "If evolution is true, that means Adam and Eve would have been more ape-like than man - so why would got punish apes for.. being apes?"
@a2daredevil00 I know your comment was from 10 months ago but I have to ask... do you mean Pastor Deacon Fred of the Landover Baptist Church? (Youtube channel "LBC4god")
That man is a true servant of God. I especially like the instructional videos on wiccan hunting. Damn wiccans in the woods behind Bubba's farm.
Here we go with this LOVE bullshit again.. You do not have to be religious to LOVE.! You do not need to be religious to HAVE MORALS... and certainly more than thousands of men have promoted love in the planet and still do without believing in some stupid background in the sky !!
@cineman3012 'Nice graphics and good diction. But otherwise, not much love in what you're saying. A certain man once said: "Love one another," do you recall that?'
...FOR A CULT? no, if you have a cult forming you need to ban them or at least remove them so the public are protected - and what about the sex-offences of the mormons.... no wonder you guys have a problem over there.
Two things: 1)How many of the founding fathers were homosexual? Zero 2)That clip from Glenn Beck is speaking of his time before he was a Mormon. He was a miserable man who had gotten into drugs and alcohol. He was a big-shot radio announcer, now at age 24 or so, and he thought he was something. He had gotten a big head and a big ego and fired him. That act was in no way associated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He was crying because he was sorry. Isn't context fun?
@mormonryan Thank all your tardy saints that your magic-bra wearing cult cured Glenn Beck of his big head, big ego and thinking he was something. Whew!, that was a close call! Now, thanks to you Mormons, he is known throughout the land for his quiet humility, sanity and moderation. Frankly, Glenn just traded in one crazy addiction for another. And, yes, context is rather fun, dear.
No offens intended towards the beloved gay community, but i suspect that the gays are having a good laugh because they are selling the bikes to the mormons without them even noticing!
@mormonryan Ryan, we don't know how many of the founding fathers were homosexual. My guess would be about 10%, because about 10% of the population is gay. Many of them get married because of social pressure. Believe me. And regarding Glen Beck...Glen Beck is now recommending that people buy food storage for Christmas... I'd stay he hasn't been cured of much.
@mormonryan Zero founding fathers were homosexual? Best tell that to that no good atheist/agnostic president that was often known to have slept with several men at a time what was his name again?... Oh yeah Abraham Lincoln! Oh well I'm sure the founder of the Republican party couldn't be considered a founder after all, all he did was end slavery.
@mormonryan : Two things: 1) you have no idea if any of the founding fathers were homosexual, no one does, just because they had wives doesn't mean they weren't hiding it. I know plenty of good "mormons" who take it one side behind their wives' back, you know when the busiest nights are at the gay bars in Salt Lake? when General Conference weekend is going on. 2) Glenn Beck is a bat shit crazy retard who has a hard on for Adolf Hitler, seeing how he can't stop talking about him. nuff said.
1. Though married, Alexander Hamilton did in fact have emotions for a one, John Laurens that ran deeper than a mutual friendship and has expressly said so through a chain of letters prior to Laurens' death. But hey, let's not let truth and reality get in our way now. blissful ignorance is fun, no?
2. Gelnn Beck is a fool who thinks that the only way for a relationship to work is if you can turn the female partner into a baby factory when common sense and reality
dictate that when it comes to marriage, it's not the results of constant fucking that make it work, but what the 2 feel for each other and whether it will be enough for them to work through their individual and mutual problems.
In some cases, sex can lead to marriage if the woman does end up pregnant, yes. Yet what lead them to having sex in the first place? A. they were attracted to each other and were just curious about sex or B. they loved each other and most likely would
have ended up together at some point if their relationship devolped enough to result in strong affections for each other. So this "children is the reason for marriage" idea is a flop. Especially considering the fact that children are sometime the common denominator for several arguements within a marriage, and sometimes are the primer for divorces. But again, let's not let truth and reality get in the way of your blissful ignorance.
@UsagiChan030 I totally agree. It's been a while since I've heard such horrible misinformation in a loooooong time! This is one of those times when you get a lot of bad info from misinformation from people who were kicked out of the LDS church! Ahhhh, I find it hilarious when stupid people try to call others stupid...
@animafanfall I'd have to have been gullible enough to join the LDS church to have been kicked out. As such, the insinuation is shockingly libelous. I will pray that you cease traipsing about the Internet besmirching people with your foul accusations, dear.
@MrsBettyBowers Oh, I never meant to imply that YOU had been part of the LDS church, I only meant to imply that wherever you received your information from, was probably from someone who had. Most of what you said dear was warped or untrue, and the rest was taken out of context. Sure, we don't flaunt the fact that Joseph used polygamy, but marrying as young as 14 wasn't uncommon back then, and polygamy was still legal. And why did you leave out all the good that our church has done?
@MrsBettyBowers I know that having a silly internet debate probably isn't going to change anyone's mind here. But why do you always seem to focus on the bad of stuff? We do believe in equal rights, for everybody who wants them. We are always sending relief money to any and all countries that need it. The LDS church knows what it is like to be persecuted for your choices. As such, we don't do the same. I have met gay people, and I say what they do is their choice. But I don't hate them for it.
I CALL BULLSHIT! please! the LDS church, like any other does not believe in "equal rights" for ALL. just like any other church the LDS church DEFINITELY would deny gays the right to marry. so dont give me this shit that the LDS church wants equal rights for "anybody who wants it." cause the fact of the matter is, the church as a organization doesnt. But i commend you for letting people be as they are.
@shiroi11 Well, I guess I can't say much about saying we want to deny homosexuals the chance to marry, mainly because it's true. But we see homosexuality as an abomination (no offense to gay people, as bad as that sounds). We believe that no one is "born" homosexual: it's a choice. There are people who are more prone to violence, does that mean it's OK to follow those urges? It all comes down to the definition of marriage for us. I think civil unions should be marriages in all but name.
@ghenulo So people that are born with a very short temper and are prone to violence are perfectly fine, and there is nothing wrong with them? Guess anger management is no longer necessary. Not exactly flattering to those who choose their gender over the others, but the same idea persists. You can have urges, and that can be totally natural. Acting on those urges is another story.
@animafanfall So let me get this straight. You just compared Homosexuality to being prone to violence? Seriously? Did they teach you that in Church?
And let me tell you something, why would someone choose to have less rights? Why would someone choose a life of hardship over the obviously easier straight life? Seriously, I would love to know.
And if your church truly believed in equal rights for all, your church would not have donated untold millions of dollars for Prop 8 in California.
@Zuul030 All I am saying is that having homosexual tendencies is something that can be controlled, and does not make or break a person. I just gave another example of such a thing. Take from it what you will.
Why would someone have less rights? Because they want certain pleasures over others. Like, if I wanted to smoke marijuana, I would have to accept that it is illegal in most areas.
We do believe in equal rights. What Prop 8 was the definition of marriage.
@animafanfall But you do realize by Comparing it to an evil, you give it an evil tendency to those who would be apt to believe such falsehoods?
I've heard Mormons compare it to Violence or Theft. Those actions hurt the person they are done to, those actions normally have an unwilling partner who doesn't want to get robbed or beaten up.
Homosexuality is between 2 consenting adults and that's that. Who are you to judge otherwise?
@Zuul030 I never said it was anything about what it is and who it is between. Anger is not necessarily an evil emotion. Righteous fury requires anger, for example. However, it can't be allowed to run rampant. I believe that tendencies toward homosexuality are just another emotion that can be controlled.
@animafanfall Aaaand once again you prove yourself Kind and Sweet with a subtle agenda...
"Righteous fury requires anger, for example. However, it can't be allowed to run rampant."
So basically you are subtlety suggesting is that Homosexuality can't be allowed to run Rampant. All through our conversation here you have been quite subtle with your jabs at Homosexuals.
@animafanfall So if being Gay is a choice. When did you choose to like women? Because honestly I didn't wake up and go "I think I'll be queer today". So obviously you had to make a choice to be a Heterosexual.
See, I can't live a lie. I know some people who do that and it's really sad. If I feel the way I do towards the same sex I'm only affecting myself, not anyone else.
I was born gay, I've NEVER been attracted to women... ever.
@Zuul030 Being gay is a choice. Having homosexual tendencies isn't. Saying I will never understand is a bit presumptuous, especially since you don't know what I have been through. I don't hate you for your choices in life. I don't believe it's "just a phase." You just have different wiring. If you believe you have no choice but to follow it, go ahead. I can't stop you. What you do with your life is your problem.
i love you Betty !!! Never Relent !, (((But of course, Take Pause To Shop ! )))
walkingeagle069 2 weeks ago
I don't have furniture that new! LOL.
Oceanus57 3 weeks ago
Love Betty. Speaks the truth!
billyboylb 3 weeks ago
@ThebombsquadDoc this is a parody channel...
MakeshiftXMannequin 3 weeks ago
Yes when the religion started they could have more then one wife but so could anyone else, it is not practiced anymore at least not by the actual religion and its an insult. I was raised mormon 'LDS' and only stopped going after coming out but I still believe that growing up in that environment has been better for me even if i choose not to stick with it. It's a good place with good people but you don't see that if you just poke at it from the outside.
shiningdragonz 3 weeks ago
@shiningdragonz But trying to say which religion uses less logic?/ heh funny
shiningdragonz 3 weeks ago
@shiningdragonz Hmmm. You might want to make a good long investigation into the nature of denial.
Oceanus57 3 weeks ago
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34bits2 4 weeks ago
Of course, all the anti-Mormon stuff is true, but this is mostly for fun, just considering the "zero founding fathers were mormon" joke.
Christhefireshark 1 month ago
LOVE the videos!
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A really GAY TIE! I LOVE DICK!
IhasBen 1 month ago 2
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i think this woman is jealous of mormons. hahaha. sad that people have to bash against them. i dont beleive their religion but i think the other christians are equally redicurous!
yngvae2 1 month ago
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i think this woman is jealous of mormons. hahaha. sad that people have to bash against them. i dont beleive their religion but i think the other christians are equally redicurous!
yngvae2 1 month ago
i think this woman is jealous of mormons. hahaha. sad that people have to bash against them. i dont beleive their religion but i think the other christians are equally redicurous!
yngvae2 1 month ago
@yngvae2 Can't imagine any woman being jealous of mormons.
elvickRULES 1 week ago
@yngvae2 She is not a christian in case you haven't noticed. It's just a character. And she makes fun of all religions.
indifferent59 1 week ago
Bad acting. Even worse writing.
Shutterbug1000 1 month ago
*witty joke about how magnets work*
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emobility1 1 month ago
As a child, I was forced into the Mormon religion by my mother. And we had no money because of it. They took 10% of her paycheck and we were already scraping by. They're nothing but money-grabbing whores with a self-righteous mission to guilt you into believing you're a bad person, and that "Christ" can save you. Ever seen a Mormon temple, or been to a Prophet's house? Nice to know my mother's money was well-spent.
On another note, this video is hilarious and brilliantly executed =D
ItachiLover2 1 month ago
:^D hahaha great video.
hanson666999 1 month ago
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You are not more than a reader of the lie script. for others, to know about LDS Mormon org is good website to go Pl
seemlyme 2 months ago
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seemlyme 2 months ago
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RevTimothyVideos 2 months ago
Ron Paul 2012... whatever party he decides to use... THE CONSTITUTION IS FOR ALL OF US!!!
swamplight79 2 months ago
hey devdong. this is still my favorite. me lovers you.
kicksomething 2 months ago
Two words: Golden Tablets?!
artkillz 2 months ago
@LatterDaySaint1981 Wait, what?
rocketempire 2 months ago
@LatterDaySaint1981 I count no less than eleven spelling and grammatical errors in your post. Excellent work. It has to be some kind of dumbshit record.
rocketempire 2 months ago 3
@rocketempire Thats what happens when your mom drops out of 7th grade to home school you.
dothedeed 2 months ago
Magnets; how DO they work?
BlueBerryWizard 2 months ago 5
Mrs Bowers, will you please be my wife. While I know the "Good Book" says a woman isn't allowed to marry a woman, but I promise I'd be a good wife.
Also... WTF is up with the Magic Mormon Undies? Is it like Religious Underoos?
skottichan 2 months ago 5
@MrHolypants I love how you say "The Mormon religion wasn't invented yet" with such condemnation, without realizing that you yourself, just admitted Mormonism was an invention. And exactly how many founding fathers do you think would have been Mormon if that cult had been invented before their time?
Inclousid 2 months ago 2
I love these videos. The creator, Paul A. Bradley is a genius!!
suvarenee 3 months ago
Scientology Lite, lol. Would make more sense if they called it "More WOMEN."
kitteesPJs 3 months ago
Betty you rascal you! Always make my day.
click212 3 months ago
Joseph Smith had one wife. Emma Smith.
ifald30 3 months ago
@ifald30 Yes, Joseph Smith has one wife. And then he got 30 more of them! But I didn't expect you to know that about your own religion, dear. After all, you can't be a Mormon if you're on speaking terms with reality.
MrsBettyBowers 3 months ago 110
@MrsBettyBowers - Ooooh BURN
Syntox 2 months ago
@MrsBettyBowers Well, if you studied enough to understand the circumstances you also know that America itself persecuted the Mormons against the American law which certainly is not very nice. Thus many women had lost their husbands to an unsupportive country where women's rights were certainly not what they are today.
I think it's time to ease the brainwashing now.
ju1c3f 1 month ago
@ju1c3f Yes, they were prosecuted. mainly for the preaching of polygamy. Kinda like how they prosecute the LGBTQ community with insane and even unlawful practices. A mormons claiming they are "discriminated against" is as ironic as a chomo claiming rape in prison.
indifferent59 1 week ago
Let's see, one:
Joseph smith translated the golden plates. The books did not come in a hat.
2: He was not a polygamist
3: The polygamist church, also known as the FLDS, a break off of the LDS church, when the officials said polygamy is outlawed. Mormons (LDS) people are not polygamist. Thanks, and bye.
xxmag3erxx 1 month ago
@xxmag3erxx Let's see:
1. It's a joke, genius.
2. Bullshit. Andrew Jenson, a high up member of the LDS (their historian no less) published a list of Smith's wives.
Today, sure:
"The public practice of polygamy (“plural marriage”) by the church was announced and defended in 1852 by one of the Council of the Twelve Apostles, Elder Orson Pratt, by the request of the church President at that time, Brigham Young." - Utah University's historical encyclopedia, "polygamy" section.
pamew 1 month ago
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sonohito 3 weeks ago
@xxmag3erxx David Whitmer from the "History of the Church" (A LDS history book) "I will now give you a description of the manner in which the Book of Mormon was translated. Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English." He did translate from a hat.
sonohito 3 weeks ago
@sonohito Great bit of Info. So, Joseph Smith was the original "Cat in the Hat".
AWatchman2010 3 weeks ago
@xxmag3erxx Also, check out the LDS genealogy website entry on JS. I think you'll be surprised to see all 30+ of his wives listed with records. And finally. The LDS church still practices celestial plural marriage today. Ask your bishop if a wife has to be "unsealed" from her husband before being sealed to a new one. Then ask if the male has to be unsealed before being sealed to a new wife. A male may be sealed to multiple women in "Celestial marriage", a female may not. Still practiced today.
sonohito 3 weeks ago
@xxmag3erxx Wrong wrong and wrong. From an ex-mormon to you. Ask your bishop. Other people did find the quotes already, but I strongly advice you to hear it from the bishop's mouth.
indifferent59 1 week ago
@MrsBettyBowers Deary, please explain why the PBS Frontline documentary about Mormons admitted that the LDS church is "remarkably scandal free" but the Evangelicals sects are led by convicted thieves and perverts like Jim Baker, Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggart etc. etc.
EscapeNewJersey 2 weeks ago
@MrsBettyBowers
You could very well have become my favorite person with that comment. You even beat that Jewish guy. You know, the carpenter who said something and made the Pharisees fart, or something.
JeniusRetard 2 weeks ago
@ifald30 Joseph Smith also forged the documents that the Mormon faith is founded upon. Remember the Salamander Letters? ROTFL
dmcavalier 3 months ago
@ifald30 historical documents disprove your claim
Azrael666Azazel 1 month ago
@ifald30 this guys a moron. not a mormon haha. he didnt have one wife. he had a bunch. and so should we all! BRING BACK POLYGAMY! no wonder all these marriages are failing. monogamy doesnt work! DUH!
yngvae2 1 month ago
"What do you call a really stupid opinion that's also really popular? A law!"
Now that's refreshingly true, Ms. Bowers.
DaisyChainChuang 3 months ago
I love you.
peypoo359 3 months ago
African Americans weren't allowed in the mormon church until the 1970's.
I could list 10,356 things that make religion a crock of shit, but I think that one is proof enough of just how fucking stupid it is.
JordmanKNOWS 3 months ago
@scootermagic7 wivesofjosephsmith - you don't even know your OWN religion??? dot org
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solidspin1 3 months ago
I would also like to add that you disgust me with what you THINK Mormons believe of god and his home/wives etc...And just so you know, the reason there are no Mormons in the Revolutionary war or no Mormon founding fathers might have something to do with the FACT that the church hadn't even been restored yet. The church was not even present on the Earth until the early 1800's. Also, do you even know what a pyramid scheme is? HELLO!? our prophets/bishops/clerks/and all other members are unpaid.
scootermagic7 4 months ago
@MrsBettyBowers I would suggest you do more research on the topics you choose to highlight in your program. As a mormon, I'll say that your analysis of the LDS church is DEAD WRONG. Joseph Smith was never a polygamist and had one wife (Emma Smith) for his entire life (I really question where you get your facts) The church does not believe in polygamy and heavily frowns upon it. If you want to read the Mormon Church's stand on marriage, read "A Proclamation to the World".
scootermagic7 4 months ago
@scootermagic7 Uhhhh what are you talking about? When the church started so many of the men were dying due to the extreme conditions at the time. That left families fatherless and doomed to pass away. So polygamy was then approved and seen as okay. When it was no longer needed it was denied. Seriously know your own religions background.
manlyIt 3 months ago
@scootermagic7 I hope you are trying to be funny. Smith had 27 wives. I could list them for you or you could google assistant LDS church historian Andrew Jenson. Or perhaps you are a member of the Reformed LDS who started their Church after Brigham Young took the majority of "Saints" to the Utah Territory in 1847. Read Doctrine and Covenants 132.
jesushatesyoutoo 3 months ago
@scootermagic7 1 "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines"
In fact stated that if you refused this revelation you were committing blasphemy against the Holy Ghost
jesushatesyoutoo 3 months ago
The best movies on this topic:
"8: The Mormon Proposition" and "For The Bible Tells Me So" - both are available to watch instantly on Netflix.
MarionRavenwood 4 months ago
MORmON
Yallniggasbetrollin 4 months ago
Whoever writes for this chick is funny, and she is super talented!
StLennyBruce 4 months ago 2
Many a truth is said in jest. Thanks betty.
sweetsweatyfeet 5 months ago 29
What does it feel like to be hated?
trulybeautifulgirl 6 months ago
Is Betty in the Tea Party?
observingworld 6 months ago
@observingworld
The way she just talked about the Constitution? Are you joking me?
Beyond that she has way too much class to be a hick tea bagger.
Rahula 4 months ago
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This marginalizes the beliefs of every person who believes in God. Most of the good people who have lived on this earth believed that God requires certain behavior, yet you dismiss the words of a thousand wise men and women with a few clever jabs.
rosscoughanour 6 months ago
@rosscoughanour
Prove they were wise......
rflooker 4 months ago
@rosscoughanour And it works pretty well, too, huh?
heula1 4 months ago
Betty !! You are THE BEST ! My favorite video of yours, besides the Mormon one is the Biblical Marriage one. Keep up the good work !
tregibbs 6 months ago 5
This is great! Thank you.
3investigators 6 months ago
Name me any religion, Catholic to Mormon, Jew to Muslim, Hindo to Buddha, Confucianism, Marx communist to Good German socialist that ever had homosexual rights in mind? Answer is Zero. For sound reasoning. The "Kinks in your tail" are not a right. Homosexuals will obtain marriage rights and THEN the Mormons will get their polygamy revelation expression. It "nullifies all non Mormon marriages and contracts" and much more. Maybe homo rights means something besides what "you" think it means, too??
IExposeMormonism 6 months ago
I just found you, and subscribed immediately! Thank you ,and thank you again for taking the time to try to speak truth to delusion.
TheDimanic 6 months ago
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TrickTrolan 6 months ago
@TrickTrolan So you think there were videos a thousand years ago, dear? No wonder you're a Mormon!
MrsBettyBowers 6 months ago
@TrickTrolan
Dumb originally was term referring to someone who was mute. In certain cases, TrickTrolan, when you're not being dumb, you're actually being stupid. Close your mouth and enjoy the show.
tankthetiger 6 months ago
If there's anything I can't stand more than the Mormon faith, it's people's crazy incorrect ideas about them. (via ex-mormon)
pro0glenn 7 months ago
@pro0glenn me too
TheNightcloudHATER 6 months ago
@pro0glenn I'm a mormon and I basically agree with you (at least the part about many people having mixed-up ideas about the LDS church). If people don't like us, then that's OK, but at least don't like us for the right reasons, and not some distorted viewpoint.
heyman537 6 months ago
@pro0glenn Have you ever bothered to do the research into your own religion? Maybe that's why... You say 'Joseph Smith is a true prophet', but you don't know what he 'prophesied' - maybe that's where the problem is...
windigo77 6 months ago 5
I don't have a problem with Christians but the Christians in the ruling class right now are passing laws only considering their own interests knowing full-well that the Constitution and the Founding Fathers spelled out : Separation of Church and State so that ,we, the citizens of the United States can practice and have any views we want, religious or not. Stop restricting our basic rights!
lem0ndrp120 7 months ago
There's a reason the Mormon Church sponsered Prop. 8 in California: marriage is supposed to be between one man and 20-30 twelve year old girls!
jimbrown257 7 months ago 3
It is a free nation, theoretically, so that we all can believe in whatever mystical crap we want.
sgregg5257 7 months ago
@sgregg5257 But trying to force it down the throats of people who are not interested is not allowed.
sffilk 7 months ago
I am a true believing Mormon and I thought this was HILARIOUS! (Then again, I am much more liberal than my my fellows, so maybe I don't count.) I love Betty, she is indeed America's Best Christian.
Bananianiown 7 months ago
Mormons believe that black people were a neutral race in an intergalactic war and were cursed with dark skin. This is true -- look it up.
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impeachobamanow2010 7 months ago
Mormons don't allow gays in their church.
iseeblood5 7 months ago
@iseeblood5 That is absolutely false. Everyone is welcome in the Mormon church. And you can join if you follow it's doctrine. No different then any organization, or country. You don't like it, then stay away.
ec1954 7 months ago 2
@ec1954 no then why did they ask me if I was gay when I was about to be baptized, im not gay but I noticed they ask all the guys here who are getting baptized?
iseeblood5 7 months ago
I just heard the story of how the Mormon faith was founded. All (if any) respect I had left for it just flew right out the window.
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Gawd you are evil, and I love you for it.
dolphpun 8 months ago
Mormons!!!! ughhh!!! mormons! Hope 3 of their kids die... So we only have 12.
hp4play 8 months ago
I didn't even know what she was talking about.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@JDNWF66 The short version is that having a direct referendum on a minority population outside the mainstream is against the Constitution of the United States in both letter and spirit, whether that minority is Homosexuals or Mormons. Mormons here are being targeted in particular (thought not exclusively) for their strong role in Proposition 8, which was a direct, popular referendum on the Supreme Court choice in California of homosexual marriage, which was successful in overturning the courts.
Saavykaas 8 months ago
this is sad..believe what u want..you don't see mormons making videos about other religions do you? and why label? if you believe in God you believe in God. If you don't you, you don't. If u are gay then be gay. Religion is a life style. not just a sunday thing. live you life the way u want. if making others feel less is what you like to do. i feel sorry for u..as for me, im LDS and i love you all, even if ur gay or any other religion. thats what God does:)
haydenvp 8 months ago
@haydenvp if you got that, you are thin skinned. we catholics have been in the crosshairs for centuries... trust me when i say this... laughing at ones self is not bad. If she was doing this same act to the catholics, we would not take offense because this is SATIRE... no name calling... You guys need to have thicker skins....
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@haydenvp "If u are gay then be gay" -- And yet your particular cult would deny gays the same rights and priviledges enjoyed by heterosexuals, no?
And before you get all butt-hurt and shout 'persecution!', I consider ALL religions to be cults.
beavisishere 8 months ago 3
@haydenvp I'm a Mormon too. I went on a mission when I was 19. Married in the temple and raised 4 kids all in the church. After 32 years of marriage, I left my wife and came out of the closet. All religions have had or do have prejudices. I sill love the church even tho I do not go any more. It is a wonderful religion and does more humanitarian work then any other church except the Salvation Army. Everyone in church including the leaders take no payment for any of their services they do.
ec1954 7 months ago
I LOVE the definition for Glenn Beck..."dabbler in emotional masturbation" LOL!!!! I burst out laughing!
Braveanglo 8 months ago 4
Betty hits a home run again! LOL
lcowles 8 months ago 3
@heyman537 You're dead on the mark. She's talking about the religious aspect and what comes along with it hypocrisy!
latrial09 8 months ago
I bet she makes a fun auntie!!
Mizkchick 9 months ago
Dear Mrs. Bowers, would it be an unforgivable sin to worship you instead of jebus?
HRage 9 months ago 6
Scathingly cruel and educational! She is like the Colbert of American religion.
MarxDezix 9 months ago 6
@MarxDezix i was thinking more of a anti-palin, but yours is better
manuel1471 8 months ago
this woman has a problem
heyman537 9 months ago
@heyman537. If you do not like her your just an idiot.
DisturbedRenegade 9 months ago
@heyman537 she has the same problem that all of humanity has, whether you've recognised it or not...............RELIGION!!!!
jjcrazi 9 months ago
She is the absolute queen of snark, and I love her to pieces.
justinlwerner 9 months ago 5
I LOVE BETTY !
Some people are homophobic, because they have been conditioned to be this way. The conditioning comes largely from people who have a vested interest in the "Faith Industry." Remember, Honesty is not a requirement for making a living from “Faith and Religion", they just have to make MONEY to stay in business.
Religion SUCKS. Science ROCKS.
tmadams100 9 months ago
'Only a really GAY tie.' delivery is flawless. So amazing.
elvickRULES 9 months ago 4
good lord all the pics of the mormon guys you chose were so effing HOT!
kolokostor 9 months ago
@mormonryan
Uh, wasn't President Buchanan supposed to have had a lover by the name of William Rufus King for 15 years? Isn't that why he was dubbed the "Bachelor President" and they were often referred to as "Buchanan and his wife"?
History is fun!
krasblak 10 months ago 28
@krasblak I've seen some rumors about FDR as well. Not as sold on that one as I am Buchannan(his wife though...), but it's enough that I don't think it should be ruled out. He wouldn't be the first gay man married to a woman for any number of reasons.
ctraver 3 months ago
Brilliant! I love her chipper attitude and "Mother/Father knows best" happy ignorance. I'm now an instant fan ^__^
Succubus2Angel 10 months ago
Maybe we should target the Mormons with a constitution amendment! What a whacked religion. It's up there with Scientology. Der der der!!!
billyboylb 11 months ago
Love u Betty!
Can i have some premarital fun with you please? ;)
martialme84 11 months ago
Hark! I came.
TheSpylander 11 months ago
something to think about
kixmet 11 months ago
This Christian totally agrees with you.
hahahaha
chgosatrap 11 months ago
GOD BLESS YOU BETTY! To have the guts to take on a religion (sorry cult) with the power ($) and influence ($) to do as they damn well please, and the power to persecute and vilify who they please- after all how can Mormons feel good about themselves without treating others like crap? LOVE YOU BETTY!
WGBudd801 11 months ago
Betty Bowers, you are a servant of the Living Jesus, but you are not "America Best Christian". Besides, you are a woman. You can NOT be THE best Christian...Glory!
Read your Bible woman! I Corinthians 14:34. Don't let your female pride lead you to Hell!
Pastor Deacon Fred idsTHE true "Best Christian". NO woman can hold this title. A REAL Christian "best" is a MAN and a Baptist. I'm praying for you, Sister Betty.
Praise the Living God!
a2daredevil00 11 months ago
@a2daredevil00 We dug really deep into the ground, and even bounced radio waves off of it. We have a very strong understanding of what is below the ground, and it's definitely NOT hell. I don't think any of us are really all that worried about your 'once taken literally, not only taken figuratively' book of bullshit.
windigo77 11 months ago
@a2daredevil00 Also, threatening people will hell is terrorism. People will disagree with you throughout your life. That doesn't give you the right to coerce them by means of threatening them to hell, or ignoring their completely legitimate questions, such as "If evolution is true, that means Adam and Eve would have been more ape-like than man - so why would got punish apes for.. being apes?"
windigo77 11 months ago
@a2daredevil00 You sure know all about irony!
385Mercedes 11 months ago
@a2daredevil00 The real best Christian is a Baptist? The Catholic Church is the one true faith, all others are going to hell.
Seeing as I'm agnostic, maybe I'll see you there. Save me a seat?
maggsamillion 3 months ago
@a2daredevil00 I know your comment was from 10 months ago but I have to ask... do you mean Pastor Deacon Fred of the Landover Baptist Church? (Youtube channel "LBC4god")
That man is a true servant of God. I especially like the instructional videos on wiccan hunting. Damn wiccans in the woods behind Bubba's farm.
Praise Jebuz!!
rusman74x 1 month ago
I recently discovered Betty Bowers... she rocks! BRILLIANT
oldmotherhubbard40 1 year ago
Grind Mormons down and use them for fuel and dog food.
pisswizard 1 year ago
Here we go with this LOVE bullshit again.. You do not have to be religious to LOVE.! You do not need to be religious to HAVE MORALS... and certainly more than thousands of men have promoted love in the planet and still do without believing in some stupid background in the sky !!
eswolf84 1 year ago 4
Nice graphics and good diction. But otherwise, not much love in what you're saying. A certain man once said: "Love one another," do you recall that?
cineman3012 1 year ago
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@cineman3012 'Nice graphics and good diction. But otherwise, not much love in what you're saying. A certain man once said: "Love one another," do you recall that?'
...FOR A CULT? no, if you have a cult forming you need to ban them or at least remove them so the public are protected - and what about the sex-offences of the mormons.... no wonder you guys have a problem over there.
TheFireHorseUK 1 year ago
i also find it funny that people can't realize humor when they see it.
shiroi11 1 year ago
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Two things: 1)How many of the founding fathers were homosexual? Zero 2)That clip from Glenn Beck is speaking of his time before he was a Mormon. He was a miserable man who had gotten into drugs and alcohol. He was a big-shot radio announcer, now at age 24 or so, and he thought he was something. He had gotten a big head and a big ego and fired him. That act was in no way associated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He was crying because he was sorry. Isn't context fun?
mormonryan 1 year ago
@mormonryan Thank all your tardy saints that your magic-bra wearing cult cured Glenn Beck of his big head, big ego and thinking he was something. Whew!, that was a close call! Now, thanks to you Mormons, he is known throughout the land for his quiet humility, sanity and moderation. Frankly, Glenn just traded in one crazy addiction for another. And, yes, context is rather fun, dear.
MrsBettyBowers 1 year ago 93
@MrsBettyBowers
It's only the Christians or mormons that gave this negative votes
jazzyystar1 11 months ago
@MrsBettyBowers
It's only the Christians or mormons that gave this negative votes.
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seamoremonster 11 months ago
@MrsBettyBowers Of course you're right...but they also give bicycles a bad name.
seamoremonster 11 months ago 2
@seamoremonster Hah lol :D
No offens intended towards the beloved gay community, but i suspect that the gays are having a good laugh because they are selling the bikes to the mormons without them even noticing!
I mean...look at those bicycles!!! ;)
martialme84 11 months ago 2
@MrsBettyBowers Hahahahahaah Spot on....
classicallady 11 months ago
@mormonryan Ryan, we don't know how many of the founding fathers were homosexual. My guess would be about 10%, because about 10% of the population is gay. Many of them get married because of social pressure. Believe me. And regarding Glen Beck...Glen Beck is now recommending that people buy food storage for Christmas... I'd stay he hasn't been cured of much.
oldmotherhubbard40 1 year ago
@mormonryan I know it's a stereotype, but most gays don't like sports or attempted genocide of indigenous peoples.
ghenulo 1 year ago
@mormonryan Zero founding fathers were homosexual? Best tell that to that no good atheist/agnostic president that was often known to have slept with several men at a time what was his name again?... Oh yeah Abraham Lincoln! Oh well I'm sure the founder of the Republican party couldn't be considered a founder after all, all he did was end slavery.
Kingucktoad 1 year ago
@mormonryan Ben Franklin was probably Bi as he loved his sex clubs!!!!
robertangel30 11 months ago
@mormonryan : Two things: 1) you have no idea if any of the founding fathers were homosexual, no one does, just because they had wives doesn't mean they weren't hiding it. I know plenty of good "mormons" who take it one side behind their wives' back, you know when the busiest nights are at the gay bars in Salt Lake? when General Conference weekend is going on. 2) Glenn Beck is a bat shit crazy retard who has a hard on for Adolf Hitler, seeing how he can't stop talking about him. nuff said.
utahcub30 11 months ago 4
@mormonryan Really? You think none of them were homosexual? I'm sure there were a few closet queens back then hahahahaha.
korisx 10 months ago 19
@mormonryan I beg to differ. I banged tommy j and it was gooooood.
PS. How 'bout them magnets?
GreyAlaska 8 months ago
@mormonryan
3 things.
1. Though married, Alexander Hamilton did in fact have emotions for a one, John Laurens that ran deeper than a mutual friendship and has expressly said so through a chain of letters prior to Laurens' death. But hey, let's not let truth and reality get in our way now. blissful ignorance is fun, no?
2. Gelnn Beck is a fool who thinks that the only way for a relationship to work is if you can turn the female partner into a baby factory when common sense and reality
GojyotheFeared 7 months ago
@mormonryan
dictate that when it comes to marriage, it's not the results of constant fucking that make it work, but what the 2 feel for each other and whether it will be enough for them to work through their individual and mutual problems.
In some cases, sex can lead to marriage if the woman does end up pregnant, yes. Yet what lead them to having sex in the first place? A. they were attracted to each other and were just curious about sex or B. they loved each other and most likely would
GojyotheFeared 7 months ago
@mormonryan
have ended up together at some point if their relationship devolped enough to result in strong affections for each other. So this "children is the reason for marriage" idea is a flop. Especially considering the fact that children are sometime the common denominator for several arguements within a marriage, and sometimes are the primer for divorces. But again, let's not let truth and reality get in the way of your blissful ignorance.
3. context is fun when tempered with truth
GojyotheFeared 7 months ago
and reality.
Context based on ignorance and prejudice on the other hand is just plain stupid.
GojyotheFeared 7 months ago
I don't think I've laughed this hard in ages. Thank you.
UsagiChan030 1 year ago
@UsagiChan030 I totally agree. It's been a while since I've heard such horrible misinformation in a loooooong time! This is one of those times when you get a lot of bad info from misinformation from people who were kicked out of the LDS church! Ahhhh, I find it hilarious when stupid people try to call others stupid...
animafanfall 1 year ago
@animafanfall I'd have to have been gullible enough to join the LDS church to have been kicked out. As such, the insinuation is shockingly libelous. I will pray that you cease traipsing about the Internet besmirching people with your foul accusations, dear.
MrsBettyBowers 1 year ago
@MrsBettyBowers Oh, I never meant to imply that YOU had been part of the LDS church, I only meant to imply that wherever you received your information from, was probably from someone who had. Most of what you said dear was warped or untrue, and the rest was taken out of context. Sure, we don't flaunt the fact that Joseph used polygamy, but marrying as young as 14 wasn't uncommon back then, and polygamy was still legal. And why did you leave out all the good that our church has done?
animafanfall 1 year ago
@MrsBettyBowers I know that having a silly internet debate probably isn't going to change anyone's mind here. But why do you always seem to focus on the bad of stuff? We do believe in equal rights, for everybody who wants them. We are always sending relief money to any and all countries that need it. The LDS church knows what it is like to be persecuted for your choices. As such, we don't do the same. I have met gay people, and I say what they do is their choice. But I don't hate them for it.
animafanfall 1 year ago
@animafanfall
I CALL BULLSHIT! please! the LDS church, like any other does not believe in "equal rights" for ALL. just like any other church the LDS church DEFINITELY would deny gays the right to marry. so dont give me this shit that the LDS church wants equal rights for "anybody who wants it." cause the fact of the matter is, the church as a organization doesnt. But i commend you for letting people be as they are.
shiroi11 1 year ago
@shiroi11 Well, I guess I can't say much about saying we want to deny homosexuals the chance to marry, mainly because it's true. But we see homosexuality as an abomination (no offense to gay people, as bad as that sounds). We believe that no one is "born" homosexual: it's a choice. There are people who are more prone to violence, does that mean it's OK to follow those urges? It all comes down to the definition of marriage for us. I think civil unions should be marriages in all but name.
animafanfall 1 year ago
@animafanfall Well, I suppose believing that one's sexual orientation is a choice isn't any crazier than any of your other beliefs.
ghenulo 1 year ago 2
@ghenulo So people that are born with a very short temper and are prone to violence are perfectly fine, and there is nothing wrong with them? Guess anger management is no longer necessary. Not exactly flattering to those who choose their gender over the others, but the same idea persists. You can have urges, and that can be totally natural. Acting on those urges is another story.
animafanfall 1 year ago
@animafanfall So let me get this straight. You just compared Homosexuality to being prone to violence? Seriously? Did they teach you that in Church?
And let me tell you something, why would someone choose to have less rights? Why would someone choose a life of hardship over the obviously easier straight life? Seriously, I would love to know.
And if your church truly believed in equal rights for all, your church would not have donated untold millions of dollars for Prop 8 in California.
Zuul030 1 year ago
@Zuul030 All I am saying is that having homosexual tendencies is something that can be controlled, and does not make or break a person. I just gave another example of such a thing. Take from it what you will.
Why would someone have less rights? Because they want certain pleasures over others. Like, if I wanted to smoke marijuana, I would have to accept that it is illegal in most areas.
We do believe in equal rights. What Prop 8 was the definition of marriage.
animafanfall 1 year ago
@animafanfall But you do realize by Comparing it to an evil, you give it an evil tendency to those who would be apt to believe such falsehoods?
I've heard Mormons compare it to Violence or Theft. Those actions hurt the person they are done to, those actions normally have an unwilling partner who doesn't want to get robbed or beaten up.
Homosexuality is between 2 consenting adults and that's that. Who are you to judge otherwise?
Zuul030 1 year ago
@Zuul030 I never said it was anything about what it is and who it is between. Anger is not necessarily an evil emotion. Righteous fury requires anger, for example. However, it can't be allowed to run rampant. I believe that tendencies toward homosexuality are just another emotion that can be controlled.
animafanfall 1 year ago
@animafanfall Aaaand once again you prove yourself Kind and Sweet with a subtle agenda...
"Righteous fury requires anger, for example. However, it can't be allowed to run rampant."
So basically you are subtlety suggesting is that Homosexuality can't be allowed to run Rampant. All through our conversation here you have been quite subtle with your jabs at Homosexuals.
Zuul030 1 year ago
@animafanfall So if being Gay is a choice. When did you choose to like women? Because honestly I didn't wake up and go "I think I'll be queer today". So obviously you had to make a choice to be a Heterosexual.
See, I can't live a lie. I know some people who do that and it's really sad. If I feel the way I do towards the same sex I'm only affecting myself, not anyone else.
I was born gay, I've NEVER been attracted to women... ever.
It's something you will never understand.
Zuul030 1 year ago
@Zuul030 Being gay is a choice. Having homosexual tendencies isn't. Saying I will never understand is a bit presumptuous, especially since you don't know what I have been through. I don't hate you for your choices in life. I don't believe it's "just a phase." You just have different wiring. If you believe you have no choice but to follow it, go ahead. I can't stop you. What you do with your life is your problem.
animafanfall 1 year ago