Re: Lee Doren Lecture at Oberlin College on Avoiding Leftist Indoctrination (December 1, 2009)

[imrnlil]

This guy is a fool. stick with your jack and coke you've never seen the inside of a college

[alexandreleverrier]

@snookumsthacat you just don't get it....

[Realizalize]

htww

is working for a thinktank ;

all one needs to know .

the tank gets publicity by the yes-man film no.2.

Dukat is a croatian brand for milk-products and the name of old european coins....

[antism]

i love you comparation with dukat.... actually one of the best villains in star trek... delutional, mad, a genious (dukat as o'reilly, i rather see dukat as glenn beck, thinking he's doing your country a favor by destroying whatever rational you've got)...by the way, love your videos

[Key2daUnderground]

Ive been to college, I saw no indoctrination at all.

[mainestategop]

There see what happens when you drink rum and coke while making youtube replies?

I sometimes wonder what I would be like if I did that during a reply?

[exanchorite]

horrible

[mrmanown]

I see this video and I can only think of one thing to say... LOL??

[theatomicskull999999]

2:22 May I ask how long ago you went to school? I attended UF in Gainesville, Florida and UTEP In El Paso, Texas, and recieved a degree in journalism. In both these school, the professors were what I would consider very leftist, and students that did not share their personal views were riden very, very hard, and, in some cases , flunked for no other reason than no agreeing and haveing the gall to speak up about it. So, I must strongly disagree with you.

[Realizalize]

@theatomicskull999999

they are so because of heavy brainwash and

a overall agenda that they all run together with feminists and gays,

not * cause that is how the world worked on them and their expierience....

----IMPRESSING bio by the way.

[jrnault77]

As Churchhill said if you are not liberal at 20 you have no heart and not conservative by 30 you are an idiot.

[Luinreg]

4 stars for the star trek reference and oddly enough it works.

I went to college both community and UC and I'm a republican. I never saw any "left-wing" indoctrination. It is strange how people promote this conspiracy yet there are no records of an actual conspiracy as an organized group of professors.

There is a difference between a professor giving their opinion and this conspiracy of "indoctrination".

[jrnault77]

Look up the documentary indoctrinate U

[Luinreg]

After watching the trailer it appears that they are arguing about the standards and the professors that are putting their own opinions and activism in front of their teaching. Which is different than indoctrination. What that trailer shows is more suppression of dissent.

Remember that in the end teachers, professors are all people and also have their own passions. However to promote "indoctrination" would mean that the professors would network with others...

CONT.

[jrnault77]

LOL well to get a new college course approved you have to say how you will incorporate social justice in a horticulture class.

[Luinreg]

I don't see how this comment relates to indoctrination but I am aware of students who wanted to create their own class or major. Which a lot of students I've known tried to create easy majors or easy self-study classes for their major which more or less falls flat on its face for good reason.

[jrnault77]

It is in the movie. One professor discussing what another professor had to include in their curriculum that is not even related to that field of study.

[Luinreg]

...in order to promote teaching their classes along with the same political views.

Now, a lot of issues have always found their political output. From music, video games, the environment, worker rights have all found their outlet through politics. But I doubt you will see a professor of history promote the same political agenda on an activist issue unless they belong to an activist group. If the professors decide to promote their activism over their teaching...

CONT.

[Luinreg]

...Then that is indoctrination. So the conspiracy of left-wing indoctrination is actually professors just giving their political opinion over teaching and a lot of the time when my professors did give their political opinion it was because a student in class asked for their opinion. Which takes a lot more courage than to simply avoid the subject.

The movie indoctrinate U seems good because there is an issue on speech laws on campus which I will agree on but...

CONT.

[Luinreg]

...there is a jump in logic when they go to the students talk about their professor's opinions on certain political issues which students did not expect to have relation to the class.

I've seen the need for speech laws at my UC when things get out of control and where students physically are put in danger by other students promoting conspiracy and violence and of course riots.

The problem is dividing the extreme from the rational and needed public discourse which has always been a fine line.

[HellWithPoverty]

It is a knee-jerk hysteria.

HTWW gave an example of a poli. sci. class he had were the professor presented a video of Noam Chomsky critiquing the news media. He objected to a true or false question that asked, "is the mainstream media liberal?" The question, obviously, was geared to how well students retained and understood Chomsky's argument.

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[HellWithPoverty]

Now, I would hope that in a poli. sci. class multiple perspectives would be presented. I have taken several poli. sci. classes, and that has always been the case for me.

Chomsky is a prominent critic of the media, and it seems appropriate to present his ideas in such a class. That does not mean one must agree with him.

[Realizalize]

Germany, gov. and atom. industry were searching for a place and method to get rid of radioact. mat.. They try a salt mine called ASSE with weak active mat. from clinics and labs.A scientist said then; ASSE would get watered and the dome might collapse in years to come.After he got ridiculed,called a leftist a.s.o., he was shut. The domes are filled with even higher activ materials and water runs into for years now, a total collapse is possible so the stuff ought to be extracted on tax-expenses.

[phantastickyle]

Im sure your kids would fit in very well in Berkley. Maybe even University of Texas Austin *SNICKER*

Mmmmm. Now Thanks to you I need to go get ME some coke and jack Daniels. Its all your fault too.

[cloudberry121]

Wow, it's so cool to be straightened out by a sloppy drunk.

[mopman411]

1:38 into this and I can just hear the Al Gore in you. Do research, come to your own conclusion. The devices by which we mold our lives are powered by our individual thoughts. Unless the thought is yours, is your life truly yours?

[gonavy505]

You are truly fucking retarded....but thanks for playing.  :-)

[NoleMan007]

You've obviously never been to a public university if you think there's no indoctrination at our colleges.

[Darklord12356]

'I bet it was some students who called him in...not an actual professor.'

...

um...yeah. Because all the Professor's are liberal. Thus the bias.

[Shadyac21]

Thats just not true Lee is right. They already indocrinate the kids, these are all elements of the left make no mistake about it. Doesn't matter whether you believe in it liberal or conservative, its going on. And all the morons better wake up soon, cause we have a generation of morons who know nothing except climate change and gay marriage. That scares me.

[djk84]

If you don't see bias, overwhelmingly leaning to the left, in college, then maybe you haven't been to college. You're such a waste of time nesteph. Just go ahead and take this video down. This video is so fail. The ratings will show.

[Realizalize]

scientist do study,and their stuff isn`t going to get better if poisoned and misstreated, cut down ....

as this is fact for decades on, the news they come up with, while legitimately relying on each others elaborations ....that is kind of what reality is supposed to be like.

ads and PR ain`t reality.

how and why, do you think, all the wickedness of environmental disasters and fatal poeples exploitations can go on, if not for the will of a few fat cats and corrupt individuals not on your radar??

[mainestategop]

Okay, you don't want to send your kids to that college its your right. You want to send your kids to the Lenin school or to Berkley or some other clown college do that.

[romeosevendelta]

Aside from that, I've experienced this kind of shit in public school. I had an assignment in one class to write my opinion on recent events and the only way that you can get a negative grade is if you refuse to write it. Automatic A for a paragraph, right? Wrong. Every time I disagreed with the teacher's view, I would get a negative grade. I quit during sophomore year out of frustration because of it. Trust me, it exists.

[tubaboy71]

this is deep.....

[romeosevendelta]

Encouraging critical thought in a college really isn't so bad.

In fact, here's some for you; why engage in defending one side of a paradigm that is inherently divisive?

[a300pilotster]

The weird part is THEY have to be indocricnated. If you are open minded you will probaly lean left. They by the religious BS hook line and sinker.

[4lifejackhammer]

indoctrination is truly a bipartisan issue, a300 sheep