I'm absolutely amazed by the numbers of people who know enough to be fairly capable in electronics, but still understand so little to properly analyze someone's work, like Rodin's. He hasn't done anything special. A few minutes with a calculator and a regular toroid provide better results (same power, fewer turns). He wound a toroid in an 'interesting' way- that's it. The magnet is doing the majority of the work in his 'examples'.
@ReactanceIsFutile I'm just recently looking at youtube stuff, and never heard of a Rodin coil, but am very familiar with iron-laminated transformers and ferrite toroid cores, for both transformer, and choke purposes. What is the purpose of the Rodin, it seems counter-productive to allow the magnetic field to work outside the core, of any transformer? Since a well designed toroid is already near 98.5-99% or better, what exactly does the Rodin do?
@dougspair Supposedly it makes a very good antenna, as it's a directional field transmitter. It could also make a great loudspeaker coil. An interesting feature it makes magnets rotate in the middle, this is how a Rodin motor is created. It could also form a transformer by using two coils on top of each other, possibly with a ferrite rod core in the middle. If it's any better than existing designs, I don't know, it wasn't studied much. It's an invention that could have several uses.
Best video I've seen on the Rodin coil! Finally someone who's investigated it thoroughly and doesn't rush through everything as if it was a ten-second commercial. Thanks for sharing your findings!
Well, in all fairness the video does move along slowly. It's one of my first attempts at using a very simple video making program, really it;s a slide show editor that handle video clips too. It's awkward and tedious to make videos with. I have better non-linear video editing app now that is much better. It should allow me to make videos with a quicker pace.
@Films4You Thanks. After I finished it, I just turned it over and over marveling at the winding geometry. It's as if it's trying to say, yes there is some thing here. It's really quite visually memorizing.
Aftter it was done, one of the things I realized is that there is a specific relationship between the number of points used to wind the coil and the outer and inner diameter of the coil. For any given number of points and any given outer diameter...
@syberraith There is only one inner diameter that will result in the roundest and most evenly wound coil. It easy to determine from drawing out a to scale diagram of the outer diameter of the coil, then marking the angle of the windings on it. That will graphically reveal what the inner diameter of the torus should be to eliminate and unused space between the windings and the inner diameter of the torus.
@syberraith I'm looking forward to some day winding another with heavier gauge wire on a properly sized torus and adding more than one layer in alternate winding directions! That will give a cross hatch pattern between winding layers between the inner and outer diameters of the coil.
the magnetic feild of the coil is an electromagnetic feild, so having a magnetic core would not change and much as a more conductive core like copper or stainless steal which i beleive is a good chance for greater output, but in this case the more conduets mean more resistance somewhere, so unless ur workin with super conductors i dont think it would be much.
What would happen if u, instead of putting a plastic core, a magnetic core in to the coil? would it amplify the effect, as with a normal coil? Just starting to get a basic idea of the Rodin math. So I still have many questions like most people :)
@SilverTissues I have yet to try using a magnetic core myself, although there are reports out there from people who have, and they say that it fails to particularly increase the inductance of the coil. My guess is that the magnetic field of the Rodin coil is so convoluted by its winding geomety that that it prevents a magnetic core from making any significant difference.
Isn't it crazy that the magnetic field of the coil would be dependent on current.... How can you even begin to answer this system without understanding amperes law?
I appreciate being able to see what this curious little device can do, and your short videos make that easy - make me think - and make me wonder what else you think; as a 'virtual' matter of fact, popping into existence - to stay.
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CZ3ro 1 week ago
I'm absolutely amazed by the numbers of people who know enough to be fairly capable in electronics, but still understand so little to properly analyze someone's work, like Rodin's. He hasn't done anything special. A few minutes with a calculator and a regular toroid provide better results (same power, fewer turns). He wound a toroid in an 'interesting' way- that's it. The magnet is doing the majority of the work in his 'examples'.
ReactanceIsFutile 1 month ago
@ReactanceIsFutile I'm just recently looking at youtube stuff, and never heard of a Rodin coil, but am very familiar with iron-laminated transformers and ferrite toroid cores, for both transformer, and choke purposes. What is the purpose of the Rodin, it seems counter-productive to allow the magnetic field to work outside the core, of any transformer? Since a well designed toroid is already near 98.5-99% or better, what exactly does the Rodin do?
dougspair 1 month ago
@dougspair Supposedly it makes a very good antenna, as it's a directional field transmitter. It could also make a great loudspeaker coil. An interesting feature it makes magnets rotate in the middle, this is how a Rodin motor is created. It could also form a transformer by using two coils on top of each other, possibly with a ferrite rod core in the middle. If it's any better than existing designs, I don't know, it wasn't studied much. It's an invention that could have several uses.
sc00f 3 weeks ago
@sc00f Interesting, Thanks.
I wonder if it has any ability to transmit or receive scalar waves. Maybe I lookinto to those possibilities next time.
syberraith 3 weeks ago
Best video I've seen on the Rodin coil! Finally someone who's investigated it thoroughly and doesn't rush through everything as if it was a ten-second commercial. Thanks for sharing your findings!
MikHartwell 2 months ago
tried to wath this.. but u are so sloooooooooooooooooooooow.. boooring.. switching to better one
31337flamer 3 months ago
@31337flamer Thanks for the feedback.
Exceeded your attention span did I?
Well, in all fairness the video does move along slowly. It's one of my first attempts at using a very simple video making program, really it;s a slide show editor that handle video clips too. It's awkward and tedious to make videos with. I have better non-linear video editing app now that is much better. It should allow me to make videos with a quicker pace.
syberraith 3 months ago
Yes, I think this could also be a work of art.
Films4You 9 months ago
@Films4You Thanks. After I finished it, I just turned it over and over marveling at the winding geometry. It's as if it's trying to say, yes there is some thing here. It's really quite visually memorizing.
Aftter it was done, one of the things I realized is that there is a specific relationship between the number of points used to wind the coil and the outer and inner diameter of the coil. For any given number of points and any given outer diameter...
syberraith 9 months ago
@syberraith There is only one inner diameter that will result in the roundest and most evenly wound coil. It easy to determine from drawing out a to scale diagram of the outer diameter of the coil, then marking the angle of the windings on it. That will graphically reveal what the inner diameter of the torus should be to eliminate and unused space between the windings and the inner diameter of the torus.
syberraith 9 months ago
@syberraith I'm looking forward to some day winding another with heavier gauge wire on a properly sized torus and adding more than one layer in alternate winding directions! That will give a cross hatch pattern between winding layers between the inner and outer diameters of the coil.
syberraith 9 months ago
make more coil and make it raounded bro than try it
marslumograph999 1 year ago
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levettp 1 year ago
the magnetic feild of the coil is an electromagnetic feild, so having a magnetic core would not change and much as a more conductive core like copper or stainless steal which i beleive is a good chance for greater output, but in this case the more conduets mean more resistance somewhere, so unless ur workin with super conductors i dont think it would be much.
lostinzen 1 year ago
What would happen if u, instead of putting a plastic core, a magnetic core in to the coil? would it amplify the effect, as with a normal coil? Just starting to get a basic idea of the Rodin math. So I still have many questions like most people :)
SilverTissues 1 year ago
@SilverTissues I have yet to try using a magnetic core myself, although there are reports out there from people who have, and they say that it fails to particularly increase the inductance of the coil. My guess is that the magnetic field of the Rodin coil is so convoluted by its winding geomety that that it prevents a magnetic core from making any significant difference.
syberraith 1 year ago
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Isn't it crazy that the magnetic field of the coil would be dependent on current.... How can you even begin to answer this system without understanding amperes law?
GTRzilla 1 year ago 2
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GTRzilla 1 year ago
INTRESTING
amcanmike 1 year ago
Thank you for sharing your tests.
dmgcat 1 year ago
Frederick C. Brown:
Thank you for your effort;
I appreciate being able to see what this curious little device can do, and your short videos make that easy - make me think - and make me wonder what else you think; as a 'virtual' matter of fact, popping into existence - to stay.
Vincent J Cataldi
VinceCataldi 2 years ago
Excellent work !!!
hhoforvolts 2 years ago 4